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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2012-10-27

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04:14 OldCoder
04:35 OldCoder thexyz, I'm getting compile errors of the form:
04:35 OldCoder src/main.cpp:1232:45: error: ?class Server? has no member named ?getEnv?
04:35 OldCoder with the latest git
04:42 OldCoder Building with MySQL backend; that may fix it
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09:37 OldCoder
09:38 OldCoder thexyz, I haven't found a fix for the compile error. The code references server.getEnv() which does not seem to exist. If you are able to comment later that would be helpful.
09:38 OldCoder
09:39 darkrose stop posting random blank posts, if you need to learn to use a keyboard there are sites for that.
09:39 OldCoder darkrose, Your comment was not necessary or helpful.
09:39 OldCoder darkrose, If my remarks here are not welcome I will cease to post.
09:40 OldCoder darkrose, I have invested time in this. You are a kibitzer. I am not interested in you.
09:40 OldCoder darkrose, The "posts" are paragraph separators.
09:41 OldCoder darkrose, I will abide by consensus. The question is whether or not my contributions are welcome. I will await group decisions. As far as you personally are concerned, be reasonable or be /ignored
09:41 OldCoder
09:41 OldCoder darkrose, I was most likely using a keyboard 20 year before you were in diapers
09:41 OldCoder
09:42 OldCoder *20 years as opposed to 20 year
09:43 OldCoder
09:44 OldCoder To others: See the above and decide. I will contribute or not as you decide. To those who are as impolite as darkrose just was: I have more significant issues to deal with. If you have a problem with proper formatting then that is your difficulty to address.
09:44 OldCoder
09:51 darkrose this is irc, not a document, random characters only increase network load, server load, and the amount of crap a user has to wade through; it is considered rude. As you should know at the grand old age of what? 60?
09:54 OldCoder darkrose, A blank line to separate points seems to be understood by some and attacked by others. Those who attack are in the minority and seem to be less intelligent and less interesting. I see little reason to speak to you further at any level. If you wish you may ignore me. I will ignore you if necessary. If there is consensus I will cease my attempts to be useful. Beyond that you are invited to take a hike.
09:54 OldCoder
09:55 OldCoder I have invested considerable time in the current project and in the current issue. It is not quite 3:00am my time BTW. I am running servers with 15-odd worlds. Writing documentation. Merging code. Coordinating things. Tell me of your own deeds.
09:55 OldCoder
09:56 OldCoder Or take a hike.
09:56 OldCoder
09:57 OldCoder darkrose, ^
09:57 darkrose I have no need to boast, stop spamming or get out
09:57 OldCoder Welcome to the land of /ignore kid
09:58 OldCoder Ah. Peace and quiet. The juveniles may play as they wish.
09:58 OldCoder
10:00 OldCoder thexyz, I was under the impression this was the place to discuss core. Apparently this is controversial. Or coretroversial :-) If you wish to work further on LevelDB I am at your disposal. Unless you take exception to what I have said to the child above. He is now /ignored BTW. If the others feel I have done wrong I will stop my attempts to help with core. This will be regrettable as I feel LevelDB may be the future of the p
10:00 OldCoder roject.
10:00 OldCoder
10:08 darkrose and c55 wonders why I went inactive for a couple of months
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10:39 jin_xi OldCoder: that was uncalled for. i hope you find other areas of interest soon and move on.
10:54 jin_xi sry thats probably too harsh, but darkrose is cool and i think its a shame her retrurn here after a while should have gone like this
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11:31 thexyz OldCoder: fixed, try again
11:34 thexyz still, migration implementation is way too dirty
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14:05 OldCoder jin_xi, good morning. Did you read what darkrose said? And you invite me to move on? If that is the consensus I may do so. I did nothing wrong at all. I am through in my life from accepting blame for the actions of others. thexyz thank you and I am reviewing now.
14:07 OldCoder jin_xi, I spoke more gently to darkrose than he or she did to me. That is the key issue. If he or she is "cool" that is nice. I spoke reasonably to that person who attacked me.
14:08 OldCoder jin_xi, my real life is in fact gone. I am apparently homeless now and ill. Yet I speak calmly and try to do what is right. If that is not good enough for you so be it.
14:09 OldCoder
14:12 Calinou "I am apparently homeless now and ill" < how are you here then? again in starbucks?
14:12 Calinou second starbucks guy I've seen in a month :|
14:12 OldCoder Calinou, I will explain but very briefly. It only intersects dev business to the extent of jin_xi remarks and he/she has lost the connection
14:13 OldCoder Calinou, I fell asleep again and just woke up. Responding to pages everywhere. Will write here soon. thexyz I will test the new code as well
14:31 thexyz OldCoder: ok, will wait
14:40 OldCoder thexyz, t y
14:41 OldCoder Calinou, i am actually discussing ways to ship my possessions elsewhere right now. therefore delayed.
14:41 OldCoder remarks about where to hire a driver or how to ship a few boxes for less than $2,500 would be appreciated
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16:01 OldCoder thexyz, Calinou odd morning for me. Wrapping up a business meeting elsewhere.
16:40 OldCoder O.K. Done with that
16:40 OldCoder Calinou, I'll make a brief statement publicly. You may PM me if you require more information later.
16:42 OldCoder Calinou, my brother Kenneth is the architect of the Amazon Kindle. He, his father, and another brother are seeking to stop a book. It is no longer a private matter. Even Landmine is well-informed about my life.
16:43 OldCoder Calinou, I am fighting legal actions and probably need to give up my home to do so. Anything further should be PM. I've answered you because you've asked. It is not really a core development matter.
16:44 OldCoder thexyz, I will take a short break and then attempt a build again. I thank you for making changes.
16:44 Calinou OldCoder: tell your brother to fire himself
16:44 Calinou amazon... oh god
16:44 * Calinou deletes himself using a backdoor
16:45 OldCoder Calinou, I am literal and sometimes I don't get jokes. But I've been told Amazon is going to "grease my ass".
16:45 OldCoder I am going AFK for an errand. I will then compile the latest thexyz MT sources
16:45 OldCoder with my patches added
16:45 * OldCoder will return
17:00 hmmmm i dunno what he's saying but it sounds like off-topic shit
17:00 hmmmm is the core development team going to have to move to another super secret channel and keep it a secret?
17:11 celeron55 getting offtopic-flooders out is basically a matter of asking me to kick them out
17:12 celeron55 i consider that as asking it
17:12 celeron55 OldCoder: you now know what to... umm... not do, right?
17:13 celeron55 OldCoder: you are free to discuss matters like that on -delta or #minetest
17:13 celeron55 end.
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18:04 sfan5 celeron55: didn't you say that the mt_dev_survey is until 26 october?
18:07 celeron55 yes
18:24 hmmmm will a MapNode ever be bigger than 32 bits, you think?
18:47 hmmmm the only disgusting bit of my code is the addDefaultBiomes in case nobody has them defined in Lua, it's basically allocating and initializing classes, pushing them back into a biome group vector, then pushing those groups into another biome group vector - the reason why i don't have this statically initalized is i need to execute code in order to get the appropriate MapBlocks
18:53 OldCoder celeron55, I accept that. The issue was that I was told to leave by two people related to my use of blank lines. It escalated from there. If I was in the wrong I apologize. But if this is so they were as well. I am touchy regarding matters of communication as they have sort of cost me my life. But now it is time to compile MT.
18:54 * OldCoder compiles thexyz sources happily
18:58 hmmmm I guess I might be able to clean it up by further grouping the biome limits (min/max altitude, temperature, humidity) and then plopping it all into the ctor
18:58 hmmmm the reason why I'm talking about this here is that I'm wondering what the minetest code style's philosophy is on initializing classes with lots of members
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21:22 OldCoder thexyz, I am still getting src/main.cpp:1232:45: error: ?class Server? has no member named ?getEnv?
21:22 OldCoder I will double check what I am doing
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23:02 Octupus http://pastebin.com/TCzDj2vg
23:02 Octupus hello every1
23:02 Octupus i wud like to know what i did wrong in the link can any1 help
23:09 OldCoder Reviewing
23:09 Octupus ok :)

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