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| 14:23 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, why did you add the always_collect field to staticdata of builtin items? is there any usage of it? |
| 14:24 |
celeron55 |
i am going to add a mod called mt_itemdrop to upstream that will load if item_drop isn't loaded and collect those that have it; the tnt mod that will be included will throw stuff around having that set |
| 14:24 |
celeron55 |
s/it/always_collect/ |
| 14:25 |
PilzAdam |
so i can use it in item_drop? |
| 14:25 |
celeron55 |
or, maybe if you have something else in mind, i'd not make it mind about item_rop |
| 14:25 |
celeron55 |
item_drop* |
| 14:25 |
celeron55 |
but i am not sure how to make them behave reasonably with each other |
| 14:26 |
celeron55 |
PilzAdam: what would you use it for? the point of item_drop is to collect everything always anyway |
| 14:26 |
PilzAdam |
there is a field called "collect" in my mod |
| 14:26 |
PilzAdam |
it is true for items that are dropped by digging |
| 14:27 |
celeron55 |
it is for stuff that should be collected _even if the regular minetest block collection is used_ |
| 14:27 |
PilzAdam |
and false for everything else like dropping it with "Q" |
| 14:27 |
celeron55 |
yes and you are supposed to keep it so |
| 14:28 |
celeron55 |
as for what i saw, it is just a thing for timing ignoring of collection of items for a bit of time? |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
so you dont pick up items that you just dropped with Q |
| 14:28 |
celeron55 |
always_collect is completely different |
| 14:28 |
PilzAdam |
ok |
| 14:29 |
PilzAdam |
so if always_collect is there is a builtin function that picks up the item? |
| 14:29 |
PilzAdam |
+true |
| 14:29 |
celeron55 |
actually, i think i'll make a setting that defines whether all items will be collected always |
| 14:30 |
celeron55 |
so you don't need to maintain your mod... but there'd need to be a way to force it per game for MiniTest to work |
| 14:30 |
PilzAdam |
minetest.setting_setbool() |
| 14:30 |
celeron55 |
no that wouldn't make sense because it would carry to other games |
| 14:30 |
PilzAdam |
and register_on_shutdown() could set it back |
| 14:30 |
celeron55 |
AWFUL |
| 14:31 |
celeron55 |
go burn in hell |
| 14:31 |
* PilzAdam |
goes |
| 14:31 |
* PilzAdam |
crys because of pain |
| 14:32 |
celeron55 |
i guess there should be a thing called "game settings" |
| 14:32 |
celeron55 |
actually, no |
| 14:32 |
PilzAdam |
if you add a setting for always collect every items you should be sure you can still throw away items |
| 14:32 |
celeron55 |
actually, wtf am i talking about |
| 14:33 |
celeron55 |
minitest is it's own game so it has it's own mods |
| 14:33 |
celeron55 |
there is no problem in here whatsoever, except the problem of item_drop failing to co-operate with mt_itemdrop |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
<sarcasm>Add a setting called MC = true</sarcasm> |
| 14:33 |
celeron55 |
when being in minetest |
| 14:34 |
celeron55 |
the solution to that is just to not use item_drop |
| 14:34 |
PilzAdam |
item_drop can set the always_collect field to true and dont care about picking up items |
| 14:35 |
celeron55 |
but how will it set it? |
| 14:35 |
celeron55 |
when? |
| 14:35 |
PilzAdam |
in handle_node_drops() |
| 14:35 |
celeron55 |
oh that |
| 14:35 |
PilzAdam |
i have a luanetity ref and can set it to true |
| 14:36 |
PilzAdam |
easy |
| 14:36 |
celeron55 |
well that makes sense; now the only problem is the old item_drop that will screw everything, but i guess people will remember to get rid of it |
| 14:36 |
celeron55 |
i'll just mentiont that in the blog |
| 14:36 |
celeron55 |
-t |
| 14:37 |
PilzAdam |
i can check if mt_itemdrop is installed |
| 14:37 |
celeron55 |
but you can't modify the mod that people have installed already |
| 14:37 |
PilzAdam |
and only add the old code if not |
| 14:37 |
PilzAdam |
i dont think people are that stupid |
| 14:38 |
celeron55 |
the only way to handle this would be to have a way to make mods conflict with each other, and have mandatory version fields in mods |
| 14:38 |
celeron55 |
but that kind of stuff is not really the design principle in here |
| 14:38 |
PilzAdam |
oh no |
| 14:38 |
PilzAdam |
dont do this |
| 14:38 |
PilzAdam |
please |
| 14:38 |
celeron55 |
"if it breaks, it breaks" 8) |
| 14:39 |
PilzAdam |
you shouldnt call mt_itemdrop mt_itemdrop but mt_itempickup |
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| 14:40 |
celeron55 |
maybe |
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PilzAdam |
because it actually isnt item drop |
| 14:40 |
PilzAdam |
its item pick up |
| 14:40 |
celeron55 |
but it handles with "item drops" |
| 14:41 |
celeron55 |
8) |
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* PilzAdam |
facepalms |
| 14:41 |
PilzAdam |
and it is in minetest so you should call it mt_mt |
| 14:41 |
celeron55 |
drop, in addition to being a verb, is a substantive meaning the dropped state of an item |
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PilzAdam |
so mt_item_drop_killer |
| 14:42 |
PilzAdam |
because it "kills" the drop state |
| 14:43 |
celeron55 |
mt_collect_items_that_have_always_collect |
| 14:43 |
PilzAdam |
+ _set_to_true |
| 14:43 |
celeron55 |
maybe we should enforce this kind of naming convention |
| 14:43 |
celeron55 |
for every 10 lines of code, there needs to be one word |
| 14:44 |
PilzAdam |
farming = mod_that_add_plants_to_mt_that_can_grow_on_soil_wich_is_created_with_hoes |
| 14:45 |
celeron55 |
/giveme mod_that_add_plants_to_mt_that_can_grow_on_soil_wich_is_created_with_hoes:hoe_wood |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
hoe_made_of_wood_to_create_soil |
| 14:45 |
celeron55 |
_and_get_seeds |
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PilzAdam |
_only_randomly |
| 14:46 |
PilzAdam |
should add this as a alias easteregg |
| 14:46 |
PilzAdam |
i think this is offtopic, isnt it? |
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celeron55 |
why does that matter |
| 14:49 |
PilzAdam |
you have any idea when you will push it to upstream? |
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Anchakor |
damn, now I want to know finnish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YyaknVx_o |
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celeron55 |
lol, horrible |
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