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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-01-07

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14:20 twoelk @Wuzzy , tried to have a peek at devtest, minetest crashed on loading the game. Problem could be near registering crafts for the unittest mod. mt loaded the game after I moved the unittest folder out. (using win10 machine)
14:20 twoelk haven't investigated much further
14:20 Wuzzy do you have logs?
14:21 twoelk yep
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14:21 Wuzzy did minetest crash completely?
14:21 twoelk yep
14:21 Wuzzy note that devtest is for 5.2.0-dev
14:21 Wuzzy but it should still (kinda) work for 5.1.0
14:21 Wuzzy there will be missing textures, but there definitely should be no crashes
14:22 Wuzzy twoelk: i like to see what got printed to console after crash
14:22 twoelk aha, was using 5.0.1 on an ancient machine ;-P
14:22 Wuzzy hmm i guess 5.0.1 is too old
14:22 twoelk mt died silently
14:22 Wuzzy yeah probably there was a function call that did not exist back then
14:23 Wuzzy I would love to hear feedback once you got it to run
14:24 twoelk registering craft definition: (shaped, output="foo 4" ...... ย  was the last call
14:24 twoelk without the unittest folder it seems to work
14:24 twoelk lots of missing sounds it seems though
14:25 Wuzzy what you mean?
14:26 Wuzzy most nodes dont have sounds. only the "Sound Test Nodes" have 'em
14:26 twoelk oh, that's by design, ok
14:27 Wuzzy yeah most "test nodes" are made in a way to demonstrate one feature, but that feature only.
14:27 Wuzzy this is to avoid potential side effects, basically to test a node feature in its "purest" form
14:28 Wuzzy creating devtest was fun. i have uncovered a lot of bugs and weirdnesses just by testing out all the drawtypes ๐Ÿ™‚
14:28 twoelk was musing wether playing a sound that says what it is might be usefull. like walking around and the sound stating -step-step- or -crumbly-crumbly or whatever
14:28 Wuzzy ๐Ÿ˜€
14:29 Wuzzy well file size is a restraint
14:29 Wuzzy theres only 1 tiny sound file, like in minimal
14:30 twoelk maybe a node that cannot be rotated and states directions of the axis like sokomines compass block might be usefull
14:30 twoelk (not just numbers)
14:32 Wuzzy oh right that compass thing was used in the earlier minimal replacement as well
14:32 Wuzzy its not strictly needed for testing imo. just press F5
14:32 Wuzzy or what do you think?
14:34 twoelk actually I would rather think some more functions of F5 could become nodes :D
14:34 Wuzzy twoelk: should you happen to find an engine bug thru devtest, let me know ๐Ÿ™‚
14:34 Wuzzy twoelk: but wouldnt such nodes be redundant?
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14:35 twoelk might play some more in the evening, was just idling at work in a eating break
14:35 Wuzzy twoelk: btw devtest supports settings. you can disable unittests, no need to remove the mod
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14:36 twoelk yeah, I always tend to rather use the file manager or notepad before using builtin menues
14:37 Wuzzy well its the same result
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14:41 twoelk hm, you didn't mean the config menu?
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14:50 Wuzzy All Settings vs minetest.conf
14:50 Wuzzy two different things that lead to same result
14:55 twoelk I can only see deactivating autostart of unittest and that doesn't stop mt crashing
14:59 Wuzzy oh
14:59 Wuzzy ohhhhhh i see
15:00 *ย twoelk installs newer version of mt
15:02 Wuzzy twoelk: i just pushed a fix
15:03 Wuzzy it turned out disabling the unittests does not actually disable all tests
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15:09 twoelk ok mt.5.0.1 can run devtest when the unittest autostart is turned of and the prefix devtest runs on mt 5.2.0 with unittest autorun active. seems both cases covered
15:10 twoelk and a little unittest bug discovered and fixed along the way :)
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15:49 twoelk ugh, attempting to join a server with a pristine mt version without moving the old media folder over does remind one how usefull the local cache actually is
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17:14 galaxie When you supply a vector to set_node that doesn't contain all integers, does MT automagically round it, or floor it? Like, round down.
17:20 sfan5 considering float casting in C it's probably floor
17:31 rubenwardy it's round
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17:31 rubenwardy because integer positions are at the center of a node, it rounds to be the node that the floating number is in
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17:52 Astrobe I am a bit surprized that the bookshelves are not protected; furnaces are even though there's no "lock" on them. Maybe people are not actually using them for storage.
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17:54 sfan5 rubenwardy: that only works for rounding down
18:01 rubenwardy well, it uses this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/d5456da69de6d74206a8513fc53db38c7dd4bd22/src/util/numeric.h#L283
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18:01 rubenwardy the code has changed since I last edited it
18:01 sfan5 that's rounding then
18:01 sfan5 not flooring as I guessed
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18:03 rubenwardy oh, I wrote that code? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6818
18:04 rubenwardy ah, I converted the above code
18:04 rubenwardy to use doubles instead
18:04 rubenwardy so I didn't actually write it
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18:35 Wuzzy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24030&p=364956
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