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Glorfindel |
Why is ShadowBot noticing me that galaxie can't use commands |
| 01:18 |
Glorfindel |
ShadowNinja? (I'm assuming that you are bot owner?) |
| 01:23 |
p_gimeno |
you mean this? http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2019-03-20#i_5516010 |
| 01:24 |
p_gimeno |
it was sent to the channel, was it also sent to you privately? |
| 01:25 |
rubenwardy |
your client is bugged, Glorfindel |
| 01:25 |
rubenwardy |
this shouldn't be a PM |
| 01:25 |
Glorfindel |
It wasn't a pm |
| 01:26 |
Glorfindel |
It showed in the channel, but was in the notice color |
| 01:26 |
rubenwardy |
notices are intended to stop bots from interacting with each other |
| 01:26 |
p_gimeno |
the guy typed a ?? and that apparently triggered an internal bot command |
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p_gimeno |
?? stuff |
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p_gimeno |
.. or not |
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Glorfindel |
Was it a channel notice then? Could explain it |
| 01:28 |
p_gimeno |
yes it was |
| 01:28 |
Glorfindel |
Ah, OK |
| 01:29 |
Glorfindel |
I should for a bug report to have channel notices not trigger a notification |
| 01:30 |
Glorfindel |
Unless that's considered standard |
| 01:31 |
galaxie |
Oh, sorry, I was watching some movies. Yeah, I typed two question marks. |
| 01:32 |
Glorfindel |
galaxie: no issue, I was merely referring to the triggering message |
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p_gimeno |
~karma |
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ShadowBot |
p_gimeno: Highest karma: "c" (6), "rubenwardy" (3), and "Krock" (3). Lowest karma: "-" (-6), "<JadenWolf> --." (-6), and "[Brackston] -" (-3). |
| 01:34 |
p_gimeno |
that's a notice |
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argyle77 |
?? |
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argyle77 |
?? stuff |
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Glorfindel |
How many bots are in this channel that they use notices instead of chanmsg |
| 01:36 |
argyle77 |
I'm sorry. I wasn |
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argyle77 |
t meaning to spam, I was just testing a theory |
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p_gimeno |
it's standard for bots to use notice |
| 01:37 |
Glorfindel |
Not in any other channels I'm in |
| 01:38 |
p_gimeno |
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812#section-3.3.2 |
| 01:40 |
p_gimeno |
if they don't, they should |
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galaxie |
Is there a default blocky mesh I can (re-)use in register_node's mesh? |
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kaeza |
??pm |
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kaeza |
ShadowBot! |
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kaeza |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza! |
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kaeza |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 02:17 |
MinetestBot |
<3 kaeza |
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Niquarl |
Hello, I've got a question about flowers and if they can appear naturally in a dirt with grass underground environnement ? I've create a nice garden in a cave and added some grass everywhere and tress and ever a few flowers manually but I wondered if other flowers would spawn eventually ? |
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Emerald2 |
Unsure if it just checks for light level, or if being outdoors is also required. |
| 03:14 |
Niquarl |
Yeah, it doesn't specify in the wiki |
| 03:14 |
Emerald2 |
I'm looking in the code but having to ask others as my understanding of some functions is limited. |
| 03:23 |
Emerald2 |
Looks like they should spread if the area has enough light. What are you using for light? |
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| 03:25 |
Niquarl |
some torches, mese blocks |
| 03:26 |
cheapie |
Aren't those pretty dim? |
| 03:26 |
Niquarl |
and wall torches too |
| 03:27 |
Emerald2 |
Torches are dim. Mese lamps and mese post lights give off 14 light according to wiki. |
| 03:27 |
Emerald2 |
You'll want at least 13 light. |
| 03:27 |
Niquarl |
how do I find out how much light I have ? |
| 03:27 |
Emerald2 |
I've used mese post lights to grow crops underground before, with a 2 node gap between the dirt and the above mese post lights. |
| 03:28 |
Emerald2 |
Hmm well they were indoors actually but the sloped glass roof of the greenhouse wasn't letting the light in like I thought it would. |
| 03:28 |
Emerald2 |
Underground I had the mese lamps from... I think mesecons. |
| 03:29 |
Emerald2 |
Also: sunlight is level 15 (to compare). |
| 03:31 |
Niquarl |
ok I've added some mese posts next to flowers I suppose I have to wait a few in game days to see if more flowers spawn |
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| 03:32 |
Niquarl |
Thank you I'll come back if it works out or not |
| 03:32 |
Emerald2 |
Needs to be light where you want them to spread to as well. |
| 03:33 |
Niquarl |
Ok, I've put some a bit everywhere next to them so hopefully it'll work |
| 03:33 |
Emerald2 |
Good luck. :) |
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Niquarl |
Emerald2: Yes! The post lights worked ! Thank you ! Got a very nice flower spawn naturally :) |
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Emerald2 |
Great news, Niquarl :) |
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paramat |
Niquarl yes you'll need a meselamp or a mese post light as a face neighbour to both the flower and any new flower position |
| 04:22 |
Edgy1 |
paramat, did you see my github reply XD |
| 04:22 |
paramat |
light level 13 is required to grow anything in minetest game, only mese lights have (internal) light level 14, and light level falls by 1 per node |
| 04:23 |
Edgy1 |
attention: minetest_Game 5.1 is officially infested with bed bugs. do not download™ XD |
| 04:24 |
paramat |
just seen your reply in the bed bug issue |
| 04:24 |
Edgy1 |
hehe |
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Emerald2 |
Wow I actually got a blueberry bush sapling. |
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galaxie |
What would the advantage be of storing meshes as STL files versus OBJ? |
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JDCodeIt |
OBJ can describe surface characteristics - STL is only the surface geometry |
| 17:55 |
swift110 |
hey all |
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| 18:03 |
JDCodeIt |
Were you asking for 3D printing or Minetest? |
| 18:06 |
galaxie |
JDCodeIt: Yes, MT. |
| 18:08 |
twoelk |
obj is known to work, don't know wether mt will load stl files although the irrlicht engine supports the format |
| 18:09 |
JDCodeIt |
Since UV wrap is supplied along with the mesh, I can't see why you would want the other surface characteristics in the file (e.g. color and texture) |
| 18:14 |
JDCodeIt |
Drawtypes documentation suggests all static meshes are supported which are supported by irrlicht |
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Zeth_ |
Is it possible to bind actions using key codes? |
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twoelk |
ms3d is for example supported by irrlicht but recently someone found out that mt-engine does not recognize that as valid file, so you might want to test it and report |
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galaxie |
JDCodeIt: Which format is more compressed and faster to load? |
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JDCodeIt |
Export the cube from blender - OBJ is 663 bytes, STL is 684 bytes, so not much difference there |
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JDCodeIt |
The STL exported from blender appears to be the binary form, not the ASCII one |
| 18:33 |
p_gimeno |
ascii STL is very verbose |
| 18:38 |
JDCodeIt |
The monkey exported is 48KB roughly in both formats |
| 18:44 |
swift110 |
there is a minetest channel on discord |
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rubenwardy |
*server |
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swift110 |
yes server lol |
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twoelk |
JDCodeIt: seems only files of the types ".x", ".b3d", ".md2", ".obj", are loaded by minetest -- see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/38ea0890ec76814188aea032ef527c7a2911e392/src/client/client.cpp#L682 |
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JDCodeIt |
twoelk: I can update the dev wiki with the restricted list - not sure why it says all irrlicht was supported, when clearly it only loads those 4 types |
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makayabou |
Does minetest.create_schematic or WE /mtsschemcreate able to record meta of nodes and retrieve it with minetest.place_schematic ? |
| 19:46 |
makayabou |
*Is |
| 19:47 |
twoelk |
minetest probably can handle them but this is the file filter for loading files |
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sfan5 |
"mts" schematics can not contain metadata |
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* twoelk |
grabs the probably and replaces with a weak maybe |
| 20:16 |
twoelk |
adjusted file formats in https://wiki.minetest.net/Using_Blender |
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makayabou |
sfan5: ok thanks, I can copy specific data in modstorage, i'm handling it. |
| 20:23 |
makayabou |
and thanks for last day, you helped me use minetest.is_protected and it's working now |
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fwhcat |
hello |
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fwhcat |
hummm i don't see which functions are possible through minetest.request_insecure_environment() |
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fwhcat |
is there the require function ? |
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kaeza |
Yes. |
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fwhcat |
require = ie.require would do the trick ? |
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fwhcat |
or is it ie.os. or io. i don't know :S |
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kaeza |
Yes, but remember to restore the old value lest you end up with a huge security hole. |
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fwhcat |
ah okay |
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fwhcat |
that's what I was seeing in irc mod. |
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JDCodeIt |
4 file types supported with mesh drawtype updated on the dev wiki https://dev.minetest.net/Node_Drawtypes |
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JDCodeIt |
STL file format looks like a non-starter for objects in MT, as raised by galaxie - as the format has no UV information which could be used to apply the texture over it |
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galaxie |
JDCodeIt: Well, I found out it works... except I don't think lighting works?? |
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JDCodeIt |
how did you manage to get the stl to load? |
| 22:18 |
galaxie |
JDCodeIt: Oh wait, that's an OBJ, nvm. Then how come lighting isn't working... |
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galaxie |
JDCodeit: Never mind again, a black texture seems to absorb or at least look like it's absorbing all the light. |
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JDCodeIt |
OK |
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makayabou |
Does minetest.place_schematic call after_place_node ? |
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sfan5 |
most likely not |
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olliy |
anyone out there who can help? |
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sfan5 |
if you state your problem, someone might be able to |
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makayabou |
hmm.. |
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