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00:03 TheInformer_ is it possible to use the on_use method for nodes?
00:03 TheInformer_ so when you punch in the air it does something?
00:05 kaeza uh, yes?
00:07 TheInformer_ yeah i realize now that it was a stupid question
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00:36 Baffy[m] so are there roadmaps for minetest
00:36 Baffy[m] likee dev shit
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00:46 TheInformer_ how do you use the textures that you make in blender with the model?
00:50 rdococ hey
00:50 rdococ wanna see a cool minetest video? disclaimer: it wasn't made by me
00:50 rdococ but it's cool nevertheless
00:52 TheInformer_ sure
00:53 rdococ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG48Y_GbMXk
00:54 TheInformer_ thats cool, also is that the rickroll video
00:54 TheInformer_ ?
00:54 TheInformer_ maybe its darude sandstorm
01:01 TheInformer_ just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSS5dEeMX64 and sang the whole thing
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03:28 cimbakahn Hello Everyone!
03:28 kaeza greetings, cimbakahn
03:29 cimbakahn kaeza, How are you?
03:30 cimbakahn Wgen you download and extract this are you supposed to put it in your worlds folder?  ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8559
03:30 cimbakahn I did and there are a couple of unknown nodes.
03:31 kaeza good I guess
03:31 * kaeza downloads
03:32 cimbakahn Actually unknown nodes and unknown objects.
03:32 kaeza oh, he put the mods in world/
03:32 kaeza move those to world/worldmods/
03:33 kaeza all folders in there except for "players"
03:34 kaeza and I guess "npc_data"
03:34 cimbakahn I have the whole folder here ----> /home/cimbakahn/.minetest/worlds/Grishenko Manor
03:34 kaeza yeah, and it should have a bunch of directories in side
03:34 cimbakahn It does.
03:35 kaeza move all dirs except "players" and "npc_data" to "worldmods"
03:36 cimbakahn This is what it looks like ----> http://imgur.com/a/lsRoi
03:37 cimbakahn I don't have a "worldmods" folder.  Do i need to create it?
03:40 kaeza there should be one already created inside the world
03:40 kaeza hmm
03:41 kaeza I fixed the issue by configuring the world and disabling homedecor and computer
03:41 kaeza so it will use the bundled ones
03:43 kaeza this is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/LYWCblN.jpg
03:44 cimbakahn Great!  I just need to find out how to do the same thing.
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03:49 kaeza for some reason reminds me of cs_estate
03:57 cimbakahn Where is cs_estate ?  Do you have a link to it?
03:58 cimbakahn How did you disable homedecor and computer ?
03:59 kaeza singleplayer tab -> select world -> configure -> expand homedecor (assuming you have it) -> disable mods
04:00 kaeza disable everything you have enabled in there
04:01 kaeza alternatively, open WhateverManor/world.mt and delete all load_mod_* lines
04:05 cimbakahn Strange!  I haven't enabled anything in that world.  I just put the folder in WORLDS and clicked PLAY.
04:06 kaeza yeah, but it may have been enabled by the map author and it was loading the external copy of the mod
04:06 kaeza (which doesn't have those items anymore)
04:08 kaeza that's why it's recommended to distribute worlds with the mods bundled, BTW :)
04:08 rdococ boerd
04:11 cimbakahn The alternative worked with the world.mt file!
04:11 cimbakahn You are a magician!
04:15 cimbakahn You know whats great about this?  If there is something i don't like about the world, i could just alter it, zip it up and save it for later.
04:16 cimbakahn BTW Where is cs_estate ?
04:16 kaeza http://maps.cs-bg.info/maps/cs/289/
04:21 cimbakahn Thank you!  You are so sweet!
04:22 cimbakahn I wish most people here were like you.  You were patient with me.
04:26 cimbakahn I don't think you can use that cs_estate in minetest.  It does look beautiful though.
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05:03 Hijiri how many touches does a new android phone typically support? I noticed mine supports at least 3
05:05 Hijiri supports at least 10
05:05 Hijiri hmmm
05:09 kaeza I wonder how you can manage more than 10 touches at once
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06:01 agaran good morning
06:02 agaran kaeza: you can press single finger at two points..
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06:38 Hijiri 10 touches is probably enough for a chunithm clone (without the air sensors)
06:46 agaran Hijiri: you mentioned that digiline chest is b0rkb0rk, is it from your own experience or some bugreports?
07:01 Hijiri agaran: my experience, and I also reported the bug
07:01 Hijiri I ended up using a digiline detector tube + adding a delay to my controller
07:01 Hijiri I was using digilines to make a one-centrifuge technic uranium refinery
07:02 Hijiri it was really slow though, would not recommend
07:04 agaran well that was one of things I wanted to make.. 1-2 centrifuge setup
07:04 agaran operated from solar power until enough is enriched..
07:05 agaran but also few other ideas, well I guess I need to try to make it this afternoon maybe
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07:08 cimbakahn I have been looking at maps on https://forum.minetest.net
07:10 cimbakahn You may want to remind people to NOT use http://s000.tinyupload.com  As this is what i'm getting on every single one of them ----> http://imgur.com/a/cc2UC
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07:29 rdococ agaran: technically your finger can interact with the touchscreen at an unfathomably large number of points and it's hard not to
07:37 rdococ http://imgur.com/a/fbRcb
07:38 rdococ tinyupload
07:38 rdococ what a joke
07:45 sofar we should just ban certain urls
07:46 agaran sofar: or use DROP? https://www.spamhaus.org/drop/
07:47 sofar github or directly upload to the forum
07:48 agaran sofar: I mean thats list of classes which could be banned as they are only used by spammers..
07:59 rdococ I wouldn't ban imgur
08:04 sofar imgur is fairly well behaved, but you can't upload maps there
08:05 sofar the problem is the larger maps
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08:48 kaeza any german speaker interested in validating and possibly updating a translation?
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08:59 kaeza in any case: https://github.com/kaeza/aw​ards/blob/i18n/locale/de.po
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09:36 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy International Mother Language Day! 😃
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09:54 * PureTryOut[m] posted a file: Minetest.mkv (4234KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/down​load/matrix.org/zZsagBlWrWgCauUCIKkacZkf
09:54 PureTryOut[m] how would I rotate that plant stem properly to the melon? param2 is already used for "meshoptions" so can't use it for rotation
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12:32 Wuzzy Lua question: How can I make sure that entities can't be pointed?
12:32 Wuzzy But I still need a collision box.
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18:02 cimbakahn Hello Everyone!
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18:07 cimbakahn What should i do?  Should i search the phrase 'light_source' in all of the mods and change it to '14' ?  Or should i change it to 'max' ?   http://imgur.com/a/jY5FC
18:14 * twoelk puts on sunglasses and a massive sunblocker for all that light
18:15 cimbakahn twoelk, HAHAHAHA!
18:19 MinetestBot [git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest_game: Globalize, rename and change the behaviour of has_locked_chest_privilege 37dd910 https://git.io/vDAB0 (2017-02-21T18:17:12Z)
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18:40 sofar cimbakahn: 14 is fine
18:41 sofar 15 is reserved for sunlight, that's all
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18:42 cimbakahn sofar, Ok.  So change it to 14, except for incases of sunlight ?
18:43 sofar you can't have sunlight in mods
18:43 sofar so the max is 14, period
18:44 saavedra29 hello everyone. Could you send me a link about information of how players and their constructions interruct with each other at multiplayer game? I mean can someone destroy something i have created? And generally things like this.
18:45 sofar saavedra29: forum.minetest.net
18:45 sofar nobody is going to write an encyclopedia in IRC
18:45 sofar please rtfm a bit, ok?
18:46 sofar also, http://dev.minetest.net/Main_Page
18:46 saavedra29 sofar: thank's but it's difficult to search for the specific topic like this in the forum
18:46 cimbakahn Well, they do have 'sunlight_propagates = true,' in alot of mods, but i guess that is different.
18:47 saavedra29 sofar: the second link seems better, thanks
18:48 sofar saavedra29: most multiplayer servers have some sort of protection mod, basically
18:49 sofar saavedra29: by default, minetest doesn't protect much
18:49 cimbakahn saavedra29, Griefing is not allowed on any server with exception of 1 or 2 servers out there where anything goes.
18:49 saavedra29 sofar: you mean that every server has it's special configuration on interaction between players?
18:50 sofar saavedra29: I'm not a server census. afaik most are relying on one of several protection mods
18:50 sofar e.g. protector, areas
18:51 saavedra29 sofar: yes, exactly for those i want docs
18:51 sofar lmgtfu
18:51 sofar http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minetest+protector+mod
18:51 sofar :)
18:51 saavedra29 i don't want to read a whole encyclopedia to see at the end that this game is not what i like to play..
18:52 sofar oh, let me solve that problem for you!
18:53 cimbakahn saavedra29, If you want your buildings/structures protected from other players you need to use protection, and almost all servers have some form of protection that you can use.
18:54 saavedra29 does every server have some docs for their special characteristics?
18:54 sofar almost all have player info at the spawn
18:55 sofar log in on a few servers and read the signs around spawn
18:55 saavedra29 ok thanks everyone. I guess i want avoid a long reading.
18:56 agaran then better spend that time to try..
18:57 cimbakahn saavedra29, It's simple.  If you find a server that you would like to play on, ask in chat about how to protect your structures.
18:57 saavedra29 Actually i meant "a long searching" because reading is of course something that we shouldn't avoid becouse knowledge doesn't come from nowhere :)
18:59 saavedra29 cimbakahn: i've found a server with a world i like a lot. But i see that someone is alternating a big mine i have made and enlarging my home. So i was wondering about these details
19:00 saavedra29 but probably i have to ask information from people on the specific server
19:00 cimbakahn It does vary depending on which server you are on.  One server may have the orange & white sticks, another may have the blue block, another a moderator or admin will do it for you.
19:02 saavedra29 :)
19:02 saavedra29 Thank's for the information
19:02 cimbakahn saavedra29, You mean someone has griefed you?  Griefing is when someone is damaging or changing your structures without permission.
19:03 saavedra29 cimbakahn: yes
19:03 cimbakahn saavedra29, Which server is it?
19:03 saavedra29 hometownserver.com
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19:08 cimbakahn I am on that server right now and it looks like it is a PVP server.
19:09 saavedra29 but nobody took things from my chest
19:10 Shara Trying to stop people selling stuff would be an absolute nightmare
19:10 cimbakahn saavedra29, Where are you?  Where is your chest?
19:10 saavedra29 it's about -200, 0, 340
19:11 Shara Hmmm, whoever taught my cat to make things switch tab... >.>
19:12 saavedra29 no, its 202, 2.5, 303
19:12 cimbakahn saavedra29, You need to go there so i can find you.
19:12 twoelk there was this app that decided wether it was a cat typing or not
19:13 Shara I was trying to type in another channel. Paused to get her off keyboard.. and somehow she'd switched it to this one :)
19:15 twoelk in KVIrc  scrolling may change channels or scroll chat depending where the curser hovers
19:15 twoelk or scroll thru some other open list
19:16 Shara I suspect cats can discover keyboard shortcuts humans can't find.
19:16 twoelk (just as little kids)
19:16 Shara Mostly I'm glad she doesn't manage to hit enter often after sleeping on the keyboard.
19:17 twoelk toddlers can be surprising efficient brute force password hackers
19:17 Shara Usually long strings of nonsense made from a few letters then.
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19:18 agaran twoelk: thats why best idea is have no toddlers?
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19:18 * Shara likes that plan
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19:18 twoelk http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/
19:19 twoelk https://priceonomics.com/the-software​-that-detects-when-a-cat-is-messing/
19:19 twoelk instantgrownups - nah, you miss lots of fun
19:19 Shara Hah... though you must admit, it would take some of the fun away.
19:20 Shara I might have been known to hit enter to finish the job for the cat a few times :)
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20:04 cimbakahn saavedra29, I don't like that server at all.
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20:16 IhrFussel Will dump() work INSIDE minetest.log() IF the table contains newlines?
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22:16 red-001 IhrFussel, it should work anywhere
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23:44 TheInformer How do I add textures for 3d mesh nodes?

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