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01:01 infotek is there a way to list current joined users via php for a website
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01:52 rubenwardy infotek: write a mod which saves a text file with a list of players at regular intervals
01:52 rubenwardy done
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04:23 guest3 Anyone here?
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06:11 Hijiri rip github
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08:11 yusf[m] What's wrong with Github?
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08:30 _Megaf yusf[m]: elaborate
08:30 _Megaf ops
08:31 _Megaf Hijiri: what's wrong with GitHub?
08:31 _Megaf Good morning all
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08:39 _Megaf !server Megaf
08:39 MinetestBot _Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
08:42 _Megaf !server esp
08:42 MinetestBot _Megaf: ESP Build Team | mt.espteam.org | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 17ms
08:46 yusf[m] Don't see anything wrong with Github :)
08:47 _Megaf yusf[m]: I prefer the way http://git.megaf.info/ looks though
08:50 yusf[m] Gogs is sweet. Harder to collaborate with Github users though?
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09:20 _Megaf at the moment I'm jus using Gogs as mirror for my repos
09:21 _Megaf It is not as complete as GitHub
09:21 _Megaf I can't edit files directly on Gogs
09:24 _Megaf yusf[m]: so for instance, if I want to edit http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/minetest_​gameplay_changes/src/master/init.lua I have to actually clone the whole repo and edit locally, they push it
09:26 yusf[m] Yeah, Github pushes and expands the idea of what we want from git really
09:27 _Megaf but Gogs is evolving a lot. Like, when I begun using it it didnt have pull requests
09:27 _Megaf now it has
09:38 yusf[m] Still can't figure that out myselft though xD
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10:03 _Megaf heh
10:03 _Megaf oh, and now my server has only 256 MB of RAM, so far 3 players were ok with that amount of mem
10:04 _Megaf I wonder if I can take 20 players with only 256 MB of RAM
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10:15 _Megaf yusf[m]: wowowowowow
10:15 _Megaf just updated my gogs and now I can create files and edit them in gogs!!!!
10:15 _Megaf yay!
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11:00 yusf[m] _Megaf (IRC): that's great! Would be cool if one could federate Gogs installs so that they act as one network
11:01 _Megaf that would be tricky
11:12 _Megaf yusf[m]: look, it's beautiful http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPast​e/raw/master/screenshots/Screenshot​%20from%202016-10-04%2012:11:31.png
11:13 _Megaf the editor actually changes acording to the filetype you are writing.
11:14 _Megaf http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPast​e/raw/master/screenshots/Screenshot​%20from%202016-10-04%2012:13:28.png
11:14 _Megaf now I don't need imgur or pastebin anymore, will just use git for everything xP
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11:16 _Megaf ok, just for md files it has the nice formating thing
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11:25 yusf[m] _Megaf: Can you do PRs back to Github repos?
11:26 _Megaf gogs rocks. http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPast​e/raw/master/screenshots/Screenshot​%20from%202016-10-04%2012:24:32.png
11:26 _Megaf http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPast​e/raw/master/screenshots/Screenshot​%20from%202016-10-04%2012:25:02.png
11:26 _Megaf just awesome
11:26 _Megaf yusf[m]: I'm not sure if I can do that
11:31 _Megaf yusf[m]: I don't think I can, I'm trying right now
11:33 _Megaf this http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/minetest_oldschool is a fork of this https://github.com/Megaf/minetest_gameplay_changes
11:34 _Megaf I can't find a way to compare both using Github or Gogs
11:40 yusf[m] I mean forking is only good if you can do PRs back, right? :)
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11:53 _Megaf totally agree
11:53 _Megaf we should be able to fork and PR no matter the git web interface
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11:59 _Megaf eh, my idea was good, the execution of it was terrible :P http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitP​aste/src/master/MegafGitLogo.png
11:59 _Megaf needs more work, a lot more
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12:50 yusf[m] Branch…es? :)
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13:42 infotek when compiling from sources (git) why is minetestserver not a resultant binary.
13:44 yusf[m] Never got minetestserver to work very well. I'm just using minetest --server instead.
13:45 infotek duh
13:46 infotek minetestserver is a shell sctipt
13:46 sfan5 no it isn't
13:46 sfan5 add -DBUILD_SERVER=1 (and optionally -DBUILD_CLIENT=0) to the cmake invocation and you'll get minetestserver
13:47 infotek huh, $ file `which minetestserver` /usr/games/minetestserver: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
13:48 infotek that was installed via apt... compiling from source now.
13:53 yusf[m] It is the apt minetestserver for Debian that is flawed, yes.
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15:29 _Megaf sfan5: you like RC? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fOjdCLx6Vw
15:29 _Megaf (it's in German)
15:30 sfan5 !title
15:30 MinetestBot sfan5: Gigantic RC Piper and Super Decathlon BIG RC Planes Hausen 2016 Flight Show - YouTube
15:30 sfan5 nah
15:30 sfan5 also that's swiss german
15:31 _Megaf oh, there's that too
15:31 _Megaf but I can almost understand what the guy says
15:32 Krock can confirm
15:33 Krock the narrator is from the eastern half of switzerland
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15:38 swift110 hey Krock
15:39 Krock hey swift110
15:39 Krock how are you?
15:39 swift110 im good Krock how are you?
15:39 Krock I'm fine, thanks :)
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15:47 swift110 god to hear Krock what ya up to
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15:59 _Megaf swift110: want to chat eh? :)
16:00 _Megaf we have a forecast here, it will rain for four months
16:00 _Megaf yah
16:03 swift110 lol
16:03 swift110 hey _Megaf
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16:45 _Megaf I should learn German
16:45 _Megaf any German teachers around?
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17:09 exio4 _Megaf: nop, but I have been learning German for about 4 months! :P
17:09 _Megaf Tha'ts awesome
17:09 exio4 it's a beautiful language
17:10 exio4 I bought an english-deutsch dictionary and one of Andre Klein 10-stories books
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17:57 _Megaf aix: you are a bug
17:57 _Megaf Krock: ^
17:58 _Megaf There, happy?
17:58 Krock wasn't worth to mention but ok
17:58 _Megaf sorry aix, it's just a Megafian joke, probably I'm the only one who finds it funny
17:59 _Megaf I didn't mean anything at all with that statement
17:59 Krock <_Megaf>well, I consider a bug if it made a player to have lost everything it had mined for the past months
17:59 Krock <Krock>_Megaf, if so, call "aix" a bug
17:59 Krock ^ the context around this
17:59 * _Megaf runs
18:00 _Megaf Krock: you better run too
18:03 _Megaf The 3.5mm jack thing was genious! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAG8XEW7KiE
18:03 _Megaf !title
18:03 MinetestBot _Megaf: Need a new phone? Pixel. Phone by Google. - YouTube
18:03 * Krock runs
18:04 agaran Krock: =)
18:04 Krock hai agaran
18:04 Calinou how to market things: 1) laugh at the competition [X] 2) include ponies [ ]
18:05 agaran ;-)
18:05 Krock 3) profit [ ]
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18:11 Fixer_ PR4530 will cure your low fps problem in minetest, ask developers now and receive a free gift: developer hate
18:11 Fixer_ enlarge your fps
18:11 Fixer_ free
18:11 _Megaf #4530
18:12 Krock sounds like a cheap advertisement for some windows tune up tools
18:12 _Megaf ah
18:12 _Megaf by the way, google assistant is brillian! I wish it could talk like Google Now can
18:16 _Megaf lol, I will play tic tac toe with google assistan
18:20 Out`Of`Control google lover
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18:20 _Megaf well, Google is making nice products
18:21 _Megaf and making them available for my good old Android 4.3
18:21 _Megaf on intel architecture
18:21 _Megaf and these products are reanning extremely well
18:21 _Megaf that is Google Photos, Hangouts, Duo, Allo, Maps, Messenger, Google Now and so on
18:21 _Megaf my phone doesnt feel outdated at all
18:22 Krock and google mail
18:22 _Megaf oh, GMail and the whole office suite too
18:22 _Megaf and Google Drive
18:22 _Megaf weird that Google Camera just vanished
18:23 _Megaf I had it for a while, installed it. then I removed it, and when I wanted to install it again it wasnt in the app store anymore
18:24 _Megaf google keyboard is amazing too
18:24 _Megaf all things I use on my phone
18:24 _Megaf so, basically, latest software
18:24 _Megaf on pair with the latest google phone
18:24 Krock you seem to have a google-complex
18:25 _Megaf well, phone powered by google android, so let's use the best software for that, that happens to be from google
18:25 _Megaf just google chrome for phone is terrible, Opera Beta is much better, and so is Opera mni
18:25 _Megaf mini*
18:25 _Megaf and for SMS I'm giving Signal a try
18:26 _Megaf I like google calendar too
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18:30 _Megaf But I wish I got upgrade my contacts app and dialer. https://play.google.com/store/apps/de​tails?id=com.google.android.contacts and https://play.google.com/store/apps/d​etails?id=com.google.android.dialer
18:30 _Megaf I'm stuck to the default one
18:33 Fixer_ omg, dat cancer trolls in minetest again...
18:34 Fixer_ his friends died in a war
18:34 Fixer_ @ asks for free stuff
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18:46 * twoelk doesn't like how android almost forces users to sign up for a google account
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18:47 _Megaf twoelk: it doesnt at all
18:47 _Megaf you can get an android phone and use f-droid for instance
18:48 _Megaf too bad you do need google account to update your app I think
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18:54 _Megaf we need DIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbYadm_mrw
18:58 sfan5 !title
18:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Introducing Google Nose - YouTube
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19:04 Calinou _Megaf: my phone was released 2 years ago already, don't feel like changing it, not enough innovation
19:04 Calinou maybe next year
19:04 Calinou (OnePlus 4?)
19:05 Calinou €400 is the sweet spot for phones right now
19:05 Calinou tons of good devices there, such as the OnePlus 3, Honor 8, higher-end Chinese phones
19:06 twoelk I miss my old presmartphone nokia, it could go for a week or two with one charge. nowadays I am forced to play tamagotchi and feed it everyday
19:12 twoelk a modern car needs half a dozen (or more) usb ports to feed all the phones and gadgets a normal group of people carry around.
19:14 twoelk the numbers on fuel consumption don't fit because of all the electronic devices you can plugin that drain the energy :-D
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19:23 _Megaf I have a Motorola Rzr I (XT890), very happy with it, can even play Minetest with no issues, I mean, proller compilation/fork of it.
19:23 _Megaf Razr*
19:24 _Megaf My phones screen still humiliates all iPhones I see
19:24 _Megaf coz AMOLED :)
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19:25 _Megaf twoelk: by the way, you ever returning to Megaf Server? If not, I'd like to give your house to someone
19:25 _Megaf or is it Taoki who built a house there?
19:26 _Megaf some of you guys
19:26 twoelk hm, if he treats it well ...
19:26 _Megaf twoelk: you built a house there, didnt you?
19:26 twoelk I built a house on a cliff together with xerxes
19:26 _Megaf yep, I like that house a lot actually
19:27 _Megaf maybe will just create a park around it and add to landmarks
19:27 twoelk I have many places on many servers, sometimes there are months between activity
19:27 _Megaf and you keeo the ownership
19:28 _Megaf Ideally you would join the server and play there now and then. And also join #MegafServer :P
19:29 twoelk I guess my main activity is on Xanadu, justtest2 and my private roman project at the moment.
19:29 twoelk at the moment I'm at the office but I might join  later tonight
19:30 _Megaf !seen Darkside
19:30 MinetestBot _Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen darkside around.
19:30 twoelk I do visit most of my places now and then though - usually when I have some idea for exactly that place
19:32 twoelk on megafserver for example I can't decide what to do with the gorge in front of the house, fill it or expand it and build a nice bridge
19:38 _Megaf bridges are cool
19:38 twoelk :-)
19:38 _Megaf we've built some bridges since the last time you were there
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19:39 _Megaf !seen LazyJ
19:39 MinetestBot _Megaf: lazyj was last seen at 2016-10-02 22:50:01 UTC on #minetest
19:41 _Megaf well, can't find your house, nevermind
19:42 * twoelk decides he's been long enough at the office today and packs up to drive home
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19:54 sfan5 _Megaf: porting back and forth would be possible
19:54 sfan5 but why would you do that
19:54 _Megaf I removed that comment btw
19:54 _Megaf sfan5: well, because why not?
19:54 _Megaf future issues maybe
19:55 sfan5 umm
19:55 _Megaf when you need to run some tools and this tool only supports zlib
19:55 sfan5 then that tool is simple incompatible with newer minetest versions
19:55 _Megaf or you want to migrate from sqlite to leveldb then you learn there it doesnt work well if not zlib
19:55 _Megaf when you want to use mapper but mapper was never updated
19:55 sfan5 there should never be any reason to migrate backwards with mapblock versions
19:56 sfan5 also it not working with some backend is bullshit, can't happen
19:56 _Megaf keep that in your mind then
19:56 sfan5 no really
19:56 sfan5 there should **NEVER** be any reason to migrate backwards with mapblock versions
19:56 sfan5 if there is then the devs fucked up
19:57 sfan5 (incompatible tools is not a valid reason)
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20:24 _Megaf !seen kaeza
20:24 MinetestBot _Megaf: kaeza was last seen at 2016-10-04 04:34:58 UTC on #minetest
20:25 Fixer_ €400 is the sweet spot for rich people
20:25 Fixer_ for me it is €40 ._.
20:28 Fixer_ sfan5: about compression, why not saving only actual modified mapblocks only coupled with very fast archiver?
20:29 Calinou Fixer_: a delta system causes all mapblocks to be generated at every server start
20:29 Calinou too computationally intensive
20:29 Calinou some servers rely on pre-generation of parts of the world
20:30 Fixer_ there will be more computation
20:30 Fixer_ i agree
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20:37 Fixer_ holy shiiit
20:37 Fixer_ sessionstore.js - 3mb
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22:15 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Chat: new settings to prevent spam d4c7625 https://git.io/vPGOF (2016-10-05T00:13:37+02:00)
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22:57 _Megaf So my country is developing this
22:57 _Megaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14-X
22:57 _Megaf !title
22:57 MinetestBot _Megaf: 14-X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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22:57 _Megaf Nothing special, just a mach f**** 10 UAV
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