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00:27 kain-other hello all! I have succeeded in running minetestserver on my home raspberry pi
00:27 kain-other but I wanted to get a newer version availbable in the backports
00:28 kain-other I now get this error terminate called after throwing an instance of 'FileNotGoodException'   what():  Failed to open log file /var/log/minetest/minetest.log: Permission denied
00:28 kain-other when trying to start the minetest server
00:29 kain-other any help appreciated. Thanks!
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00:54 kaeza kain-other, does the path exist and the user has write permissions to it?
00:56 kain-other Well the path exists. but the user does not have access to it. cause it is in /var?
00:57 kain-other but thanks kaeza, I think I am going to leave it for tonight. I have gone back to the version on the plain jessie version
00:57 kaeza ideally, you should consult the documentation that came with the port
00:57 kain-other and it works again. some other day I will try again.
00:58 kaeza since stock MT never writes outside ~/.minetest (that may have changed as of late, but I doubt it)
00:58 kain-other Will do that! thanks.
00:58 kain-other Yeah, that is what I thought as well. wonder why it looks at that log...
00:58 kain-other OK good night and thanks kaeza
00:59 kaeza as a quick hack, you could just chmod a+w /var/log/minetest
00:59 everamzah ~/.cache/minetest maybe
00:59 kaeza my Unix is rusty though
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00:59 est31 kain-other, where have you got minetest from
01:00 kain-other yeah, sounds about right.
01:00 kain-other https://packages.debian.org/je​ssie-backports/minetest-server
01:01 kain-other est31 added the deb line to a source list and later did sudo aptitude -t jessie-backports install minetest-server
01:02 kain-other I did not download manually.
01:02 everamzah doesn't minetest.tv have debs for minetest, too?
01:02 everamzah i mean, an actual deb repo
01:02 est31 kain-other, there is the official minetest ppa
01:02 est31 https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
01:03 est31 you can try it, although it is made for ubuntu it should work in debian too
01:03 kain-other dunno everamzah . did not know est31. do ppa work with raspberry pi? thought it was an ubuntu thing
01:03 kain-other ha! thanks est31
01:03 est31 kain-other, which operating system do you have on your rpi
01:04 kaeza does Windows 10 not auto-install on RPI yet?
01:04 kain-other Linux raspberrypi 4.1.19-v7+ #858 SMP Tue Mar 15 15:56:00 GMT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
01:04 kain-other rasbian
01:04 est31 kain-other better run lsb_release -a
01:04 kain-other dunno, I don't use windows 10
01:04 est31 kaeza, lol
01:05 est31 kaeza, win 10 is shit, i recently had the honor to install it in a vm
01:05 kaeza est31, my condolences
01:05 est31 kaeza, i've thought I would be spared of bloatware because i downloaded the official isos
01:05 kain-other thanks jessie 8.0
01:05 est31 kaeza, but windows 10 comes packaged with its own set of bloatware
01:05 est31 some of it which you cant remove
01:06 kaeza I hope you killed your VM, buried it, set on fire, took off, and nuked it from orbit
01:06 est31 hehe
01:06 est31 well not really but I am happy that its only a vm
01:06 kain-other I recently installed a windows10 pc. it came pre installed with windows 10. Still took 2 late nights with reboots to get it working.
01:06 kain-other horrible.
01:06 kaeza hopefully I'm still on *ahem* not so legit Win7
01:06 kain-other then remove bloatware.
01:07 kaeza no support (read get win10 for free) for me! \:D/
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01:07 kain-other OK kaeza and est31 I will try the ppa another day.
01:07 est31 kain-other, it might be that it has no arm builds
01:07 est31 not sure
01:07 est31 either way it should not open minetest.log
01:08 est31 idk what was wrong
01:08 est31 but you can sidestep it with what kaeza said: simply chmod-ing the directory
01:08 est31 kaeza, my win 10 is 100% legit. I've got win 8.1 preinstalled on a netbook then read out the key from the acpi bios
01:09 est31 then I've fed that key into the vm
01:09 kain-other yeah. it's ok for now. I only wanted to use the bed. I can go without it.
01:09 est31 I see.
01:10 est31 kaeza, its legal in germany to do this, as OEM licenses may not be limited to the hardware you buy them for
01:10 * est31 thanks german courts
01:11 kaeza nice
01:11 est31 and of course I've deleted windows from the netbook and put linux on it
01:12 est31 this is the only way I could read out the license key any way
01:12 est31 if you run windows it hides the license key from you so that you cant do this trick
01:12 est31 microsoft reads court descisions as well :)
01:13 est31 kain-other, what you can try as well is to build minetest yourself
01:13 est31 its not that hard
01:13 est31 http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
01:14 kain-other I guess. I need to give myself one hour.
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01:15 kain-other est31 actually might be less. Does that compiling include the server?
01:15 everamzah apt-get build-dep minetest may help
01:16 everamzah just minetest with --server, but if u do -DBUILD_SERVER=1 it gives u minetestserver binary too
01:16 est31 yeah
01:16 est31 kain-other, if you don't have x11 installed and dont want to install it, its a bit more complicated though
01:16 est31 but most probably you already have x11
01:17 kain-other I do have x11 but I don't use it.
01:17 kain-other cause i run the pi headless
01:17 everamzah complicated to build without x11, or complicated to use without the client?
01:17 kain-other if I remember what x11 is correctly.
01:19 kain-other oh well. going to bed now. thanks for the chat. will try to compile anothe day.
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01:57 paramat pozzoni please see my request in dev channel
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02:29 paramat pozzoni please fix your connection otherwise we will have to ban you
02:43 Mr_Narfh yo anyone wana join my sever/
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02:44 Mr_Narfh ~Sever Nar's Survival
02:44 Mr_Narfh !Sever Nar's Survival
02:44 Mr_Narfh ~
02:44 Mr_Narfh ~Hello
02:44 ShadowBot Hello Mr_Narfh!
02:45 Mr_Narfh .-.
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02:46 Mr_Narfh dude
02:46 Mr_Narfh can you join my sever please?
02:47 Mr_Narfh OldCoder?
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03:33 OldCoder Mr_Narfh, Hi
03:34 OldCoder Mr_Narfh, I don't usually visit other people's servers; not as myself
03:34 OldCoder It encourages people to create fake OldCoders
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03:47 everamzah !server Fun Caves
03:47 MinetestBot everamzah: [FCS] Fun Caves | lumaria.duckdns.org | Clients: 3/15, 2/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 130ms
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05:20 Mr_Narfh ok
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07:59 Hijiri !Server Nar's Survival
07:59 Hijiri !server Nar's Survival
07:59 MinetestBot Hijiri: No results
07:59 Hijiri rip
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09:13 deva Is it possible to run multiple worlds with seperate users and config on the same server instance?
09:14 vktec deva: Not at the moment, unfortunately
09:14 vktec biab
09:15 deva vktec, ok, thanks
09:15 deva vktec, I guess running a seperate instance on it's own config file and a seopereate world directory should work right?
09:20 VanessaE dsqyrd. thst s
09:20 VanessaE ops.
09:21 VanessaE deva: yes, that works fine.  you can run as many server instances as you want, as long as each has its own config file and its own world, up to the limit of your machine's resources, of course.
09:21 deva VanessaE, Cool - I'll go with that for now then :-)
09:21 VanessaE that's what I do, in fact.
09:22 deva :-)
09:22 VanessaE I have something like 15 or so minetest server instances running on my public server (some are mine, the rest I host for others).  each is its own world, config, etc.
09:23 deva VanessaE, Does each instance have it's own user list?
09:23 VanessaE yep.
09:23 VanessaE each has its own account data, mod profile, the whole works.
09:23 deva Aah, yes, because everything is stored int the world directory...
09:23 VanessaE yep.
09:23 VanessaE you could even take it to the extreme and run a separate minetest build with each instance, if you were so inclined
09:24 deva Hopefully that won't be nessecary :-)
09:44 CWz I hate birds sometimes, especially if one uses me as a statue
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10:03 deva Is it possible to have add a user to the auth.txt file from the commandline? (on linux)
10:04 deva In particular I am thinking about the password hash function, the rest should be trivial
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10:47 vktec deva: Depends what hash type Minetest uses
10:47 vktec You might be able to write a program that does it
10:48 deva Is it in the config file?
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16:04 Out`Of`Control hi
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17:15 everamzah !server Amhi
17:15 MinetestBot everamzah: Amhi | amhi.ddns.net:48258 | Clients: 40/100, 36/40 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / dcb | Ping: 87ms
17:15 everamzah that stands for Augusta Mental Health Institute, btw
17:16 everamzah !server Fun Caves
17:16 MinetestBot everamzah: [FCS] Fun Caves | lumaria.duckdns.org | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 130ms
17:17 everamzah alone again, naturally
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17:32 DoyleChris have a question about technic mod
17:32 DoyleChris trying to add a recipe for rebar
17:34 DoyleChris this is the concrete.lua http://pastebin.com/1MFqTAS8 i added below the dashed line but it dosent work
17:35 DoyleChris all i get is a craft box with 4 empty boxes
17:36 asl97 DoyleChris: there is two problem
17:36 DoyleChris i change it from carbon_steel_block to technic:carbon_steel_block it errors out on me
17:36 DoyleChris im listeing
17:37 asl97 1. the item isn't a string, you need to quote it with "
17:37 DoyleChris how do the ok
17:37 DoyleChris how do you talk to one person like what you did
17:37 asl97 two: you need to use the full item node 'technic:carbon_steel_block'
17:38 DoyleChris <asl97> DoyleChris:
17:38 DoyleChris so i need "technic:Carbon_steel_block"
17:38 asl97 yup
17:39 asl97 that is if there is really a node call "technic:Carbon_steel_block"
17:39 DoyleChris there is
17:40 DoyleChris that worked
17:40 asl97 the reason why it wasn't quoted in the one above is cause it is a variable which has be assign with a string
17:40 asl97 steel_ingot = "technic:carbon_steel_ingot"
17:40 DoyleChris now i understand
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18:38 lumberJuice hello, any minetest forum mods on? I am new to the forum and all the forum icons are showing red and there is no option to post a new topic. Any ideas what I need to do to be able to post a mod release?
18:39 lumberJuice btw my forum name is lumberJack
18:40 KaadmY would anybody be interested in a very hardcore survival?
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18:40 KaadmY subgame
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18:46 asl97 lumberJuice: iirc, you post in wip and one of those forum mods move it to release
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18:46 asl97 pretty sure it was stated in the forum
18:47 KaadmY lumberJuice: the icons showing red means they're unread
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18:47 KaadmY lumberJuice: just select any topic thread(for example Mods->WIP Mods), and on the top-left of the page, there's a New Topic button
18:48 asl97 lumberJuice: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=1271
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18:48 lumberJuice the button to start a new topic doesn't appear for me
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18:50 everamzah KaadmY: those are the best sub-games!  have you tried fun_caves yet?
18:52 KaadmY not yet everamzah
18:53 lumberJuice thanks asl97
18:53 everamzah i'm currently struggling to survive past -1500
18:53 everamzah mobs/traps get harder the deeper u go
18:55 Mr_Narfh yeap
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19:32 Fixer everamzah: what subgame?
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20:01 KaadmY everamzah: trying fun caves now
20:04 Fixer me too
20:04 KaadmY wow
20:04 KaadmY still loading, has been for ~3 minutes
20:04 KaadmY still stuck on media
20:09 Calinou joining the average modded Minetest server is like joining a Quake server without HTTP downloads configured
20:09 Calinou 12 KB/s transfer rate :D
20:18 Fixer KaadmY: vanessas are like 15min to connect
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20:25 Fixer everamzah: network lag is huge, multisecond, tnt expl and fire caused by explosions slows downs rendering a lot
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20:57 Mr_Narfh storm
20:57 Mr_Narfh :D
21:04 stormchaser3000 hi Mr_Narfh
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21:15 Mr_Narfh ok im back I crashed
21:16 Mr_Narfh so is there training stormchaser3000?
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21:22 stormchaser3000 no
21:22 stormchaser3000 not anymore
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21:33 Mr_Narfh so can I atleast be a mod to stop people from cussing and stuff?
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21:39 OldCoder Mr_Narfh, Hi
21:39 OldCoder Mod where?
21:39 Mr_Narfh on storms
21:49 Mr_Narfh so can I?
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21:50 stormchaser3000 Mr_Narfh: well i see no reason why not
21:51 stormchaser3000 at least kick and ban
21:51 Mr_Narfh :D
21:52 Mr_Narfh thanks :D
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