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Time Nick Message
00:00 LemonLake What exactly DO you fix?
00:00 nsd joined #minetest
00:00 The_Beast I only have family and friends on friends
00:00 LemonLake Like orgies?
00:00 The_Beast I fix PC Fans i fix Operating System
00:00 The_Beast I replace mother borads
00:01 LemonLake Oh, that's perfect
00:01 LemonLake My friend has a dead CMOS battery, can you replace it?
00:01 nsd VanessaE, can you please unban me on your vanilla server? I was trying to remove the bend in one of the roads by digging down, and thus it might have seemed like I was mining the road. Someone later removed the sign that this was a project of making the road straight.
00:01 The_Beast No i am not your Friend and i dont know you
00:01 LemonLake aww...
00:01 Jordach LemonLake, most CMOS batteries are CR2032
00:01 LemonLake I was going to employ you as IT if you managed to do it but
00:01 The_Beast Sorry if i know you in the Future i could fix it for him
00:01 LemonLake I know, Jordach.
00:01 Jordach (i've swallowed one before)
00:02 The_Beast If Fix usb Drives i fix Computer Screen/replace them
00:02 LemonLake Oh, it's a her
00:02 VanessaE nsd: let me see what the person who banned you says first.
00:04 VanessaE (when he returns)
00:12 LemonLake I made it on gimp so it took long
00:12 LemonLake But it's done now
00:12 LemonLake http://sta.sh/0157vvffp0ek
00:12 kat joined #minetest
00:12 kat Hi, guys
00:12 realtinymonster Utah!
00:12 realtinymonster Woot!
00:13 realtinymonster Hey Guest65679
00:13 Guest65679 ya kat again from Utah. Hey, why does my cursor go up in Single Player Minetest?
00:13 LemonLake because magic
00:13 The_Beast Why Would you do that Lemon
00:13 LemonLake It's inspirational.
00:14 Guest65679 So, I sit still and my cursor goes up. hahahaha magic?
00:14 The_Beast You messed it up fyi
00:14 The_Beast It is Not to much Work not not to much word
00:14 realtinymonster Guest65679: try unplugging your mouse and plugging it back in
00:14 LemonLake <27The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:14 LemonLake It's quite accurate.
00:14 Guest65679 It's a laptop without a mouse. Maybe plug one in and then out?
00:14 realtinymonster yeah
00:15 The_Beast i never said to much word
00:15 LemonLake You did.
00:15 LemonLake <27The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:15 realtinymonster yeah you did
00:15 LemonLake It's in the damn logs.
00:15 LemonLake We all saw it.
00:15 Guest65679 o.k. will try   thanks
00:15 LemonLake Everyone please quote when The_beast said that.
00:15 LemonLake Or not. Okay
00:15 realtinymonster 01:50 < The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:15 LemonLake Ah, there it is
00:16 The_Beast [16:50] <The_Beast> No To Much Work
00:16 LemonLake Hahahaha
00:16 LemonLake Let's look at the IRC logs
00:16 The_Beast i did
00:17 realtinymonster The_Beast: typos happen
00:17 LemonLake http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-05-29#i_3731149
00:17 LemonLake There ya go
00:17 LemonLake Right there, on the internet for everyone to see
00:17 * Jordach gives composing a go again
00:17 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YXTW5XDM29O1.png
00:17 The_Beast I dont care any more
00:17 LemonLake You have quite a repeated melody in there, jordach
00:17 Jordach Lead Synth ftw
00:17 LemonLake Okay then
00:18 LemonLake What version of FL is that? It has way too much gloss to be FL 11
00:18 The_Beast i live in Tamps
00:18 The_Beast *Tampa
00:18 Jordach LemonLake, that's 11 alright :P
00:18 LemonLake Oh, Tampa is a nice place
00:18 LemonLake It has lots of oxygen.
00:18 Megaf_ 1:18:28: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: /home/minetest/Server/bin/../mods/areas/api.lua:5: attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value
00:18 The_Beast Nah Dip
00:18 Jordach ShadowNinja, ^
00:19 Megaf_ man, since my very first server, about two years ago, I get this fucking bloody nil value shit!!!!!!!!
00:19 LemonLake The_beast
00:19 LemonLake What does tampa have to do with anything?
00:19 Megaf_ Are you stupid or something?
00:19 The_Beast I am sorry i read what You Said Wrong
00:19 LemonLake It's okay.
00:19 Megaf_ How the heck a simple mod error can bring the server down?
00:19 Jordach Megaf_, because mods still don't check their shit correctly
00:20 LemonLake But I am not royal. You do not need to capitalize use of 'You' when speaking about me.
00:20 The_Beast No Cursing
00:20 realtinymonster Megaf_: he assumed FL = Florida
00:20 LemonLake Fuck piss hit cookie
00:20 Jordach my mods have a if nil then return :P
00:20 LemonLake s/hit/shit
00:20 Megaf_ The_Beast; minetest curses at me
00:20 The_Beast I am use to typing like that  that Lemon
00:20 The_Beast Lol
00:20 LemonLake Its  ok,  we  all  use  extra  whitespaces  sometimes
00:21 Jordach i have more rage contained than some actually realise
00:21 LemonLake It's  totally  understandable
00:21 The_Beast I dont use extra white space i use to many captiols
00:21 realtinymonster Like                  This                is                  totally               cool                .......
00:21 The_Beast How do i take a screen shot
00:21 The_Beast Of my screen
00:21 LemonLake Alt + f4
00:21 nsd ok thanks
00:21 The_Beast k
00:21 realtinymonster lol
00:22 Megaf_ we were having a great time at my server, all old school friends reunited, then this thing crashes
00:22 Megaf_ it's really annoying
00:22 nsd left #minetest
00:22 * realtinymonster has left life
00:23 * LemonLake gives up on life too
00:23 realtinymonster Woot!
00:23 The_Beast [15:48] <LemonLake> Not dip shit head.
00:23 The_Beast Lol
00:23 Megaf_ life is where minetest is
00:23 The_Beast I found that in the logs Lemon
00:23 Jordach Megaf_, i feel ya
00:23 realtinymonster Megaf_: +1
00:23 LemonLake The_Beast: Link
00:24 Jordach Megaf_, tryout BFD and find a crash (the most likey to do so is mobs)
00:24 Megaf_ I dont use mobs
00:24 Megaf_ I know they cause lots of crash
00:24 LemonLake The_Beast: I would like a link of me saying this
00:25 realtinymonster LemonLake: he lies
00:25 LemonLake realtinymonster: I'm quite aware of that.
00:25 realtinymonster i looke up in my local logs
00:25 The_Beast ok
00:25 LemonLake The_Beast: Impersonating somebody is not very nice
00:26 The_Beast I am not let me get a screenshot
00:26 LemonLake How would you like it if I logged in as you and started saying stuff that you never said?
00:27 The_Beasf totally legit username
00:27 The_Beast Lemon i was trying to get to feel the same way i did when you over extradited   that i spelt some thing wrong
00:28 LemonLake Wanna know why?
00:28 LemonLake You claim to be who you're not.
00:28 LemonLake You say that you're some smart ass, when really your not
00:28 The_Beast Ok
00:28 LemonLake It's called attention seeking
00:28 LemonLake A bad habit
00:28 The_Beast I am a smart ass for your infomation
00:28 LemonLake I'm teaching you a life lesson here while entertaining myself at the same time.
00:28 realtinymonster LemonLake: numnumnum
00:28 LemonLake Talk about modesty, jesus
00:28 Jordach chill it
00:28 Exio4 someone said i'm their new god if i can challenge prog lol
00:28 LemonLake Whoa whoa jordach
00:28 LemonLake Calm your face
00:29 realtinymonster lol
00:29 * Exio4 slaps Jordach
00:29 Exio4 what is going on here
00:29 LemonLake Calm it even more
00:29 realtinymonster Jordach: Calm Thy Face!
00:29 Jordach no
00:29 LemonLake that should be a prayer
00:29 realtinymonster lol
00:29 * Exio4 licks Jordach
00:29 LemonLake dafuq
00:30 * realtinymonster hugs LemonLake
00:30 The_Beast Lemon   you are just teasing me because i wanted to join your team i know that why you act like i was born yestrday
00:30 * LemonLake is confused but accepts it anyway
00:30 LemonLake The_Beast
00:30 The_Beast ?
00:30 Exio4 plz fak u
00:30 Exio4 :D
00:30 LemonLake I'm not teasing you at all
00:30 The_Beast Ok
00:30 LemonLake I'm just trying to teach you many lessons.
00:31 The_Beast I dont need any lessons
00:31 LemonLake Hm
00:31 LemonLake Okay then
00:31 LemonLake So you can graduate, and you claim you're 100% mature so you can go and find a mate and reproduce.
00:31 The_Beast Yes
00:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: Lol
00:31 LemonLake Okay, go do that now.
00:32 VanessaE LemonLake:  this is the same guy who *bought* a dog from a greed--  ahem..  breeder.
00:32 realtinymonster you say that as if he is a dog or smth
00:32 LemonLake VanessaE: I like facts.
00:32 The_Beast Your the dumba** mature means like you act like a real person and  dont act  a stupid fucking idiot
00:32 LemonLake HOLY
00:32 LemonLake FUCKING
00:32 LemonLake SHIT
00:32 realtinymonster LOL
00:32 LemonLake That was uncalled for, M8.
00:32 The_Beast left #minetest
00:32 realtinymonster #ragequit
00:33 LemonLake Okay, I'll reply even though he's left.
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00:33 LemonLake 1. My ass may be dumb. I could have bowel cancer for all you know.
00:33 realtinymonster lol
00:33 LemonLake 2. I am a real person, indeed. I am a human being on this planet.
00:33 The_Beast Why was i kicked
00:33 Jordach you werent kicked
00:33 LemonLake 3. I wouldn't act stupid. That just makes me look stupid.
00:34 The_Beast Then what happend
00:34 LemonLake You left #minetest.
00:34 The_Beast No
00:34 The_Beast It said i was kicked
00:34 LemonLake * The_Beast (603be161@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.225.97) has left #minetest
00:34 realtinymonster The_Beast: internet died?
00:34 LemonLake Hmmm, I wonder why?
00:34 The_Beast Maybe
00:34 LemonLake Want me to make a wallpaper with your other quote?
00:34 The_Beast Yes i Sure Fucking do
00:34 LemonLake Okay then!
00:35 realtinymonster The_Beast: ./part #minetest
00:35 LemonLake I have the xcf right here, give me a moment
00:35 The_Beast ok
00:37 LemonLake <The_Beast> Just Shut your Fucking Trap
00:37 LemonLake (in query)
00:37 realtinymonster lol
00:37 The_Beast I Sure did
00:37 LemonLake By the way guys, I'm releasing a free wallpaper in just a few seconds! Sit back!
00:37 realtinymonster LemonLake: Woot!
00:37 LemonLake It's 42% uploaded, it's a great one too
00:38 realtinymonster release via mediacru.sh?
00:38 LemonLake Ah, dang
00:38 LemonLake that's effort
00:38 LemonLake :P
00:38 realtinymonster lol
00:38 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4AlFOjHclt8q.png
00:38 LemonLake 1080p for your eyes
00:39 The_Beast Thats a very good one
00:39 realtinymonster hehe
00:39 LemonLake Why thank you, fine sir!
00:39 LemonLake I might just print some posters
00:39 LemonLake Sell them at the library
00:39 The_Beast Cool
00:40 realtinymonster Am I right in saying that 'Jolly Good Sir' = 'Go fuck yourself'?
00:40 LemonLake Why that is correct, fine sir!
00:40 realtinymonster Woot!
00:40 LemonLake Also, be sure to use the term 'wanker' politely but with a hint of sass.
00:40 LemonLake Maybe a gesture to go along with it. ^.^
00:40 realtinymonster I got something right for a change!
00:41 LemonLake So, The_Beast
00:41 The_Beast Yeah
00:41 * realtinymonster throws LemonLake into a freezer
00:41 LemonLake You seemed to have lashed out at me, similar to the way other 14 year old CoD players do. What would you now rate yourself in maturity, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being mature?
00:42 LemonLake Ohh yess I love that freezer
00:42 The_Beast 10
00:42 realtinymonster you can't talk throught the freezer door... :/
00:42 LemonLake don't contradict me
00:42 * realtinymonster takes LemonLake out of the freezer
00:42 LemonLake was kicked by Jordach: QUIT. IT
00:42 The_Beast was kicked by Jordach: QUIT. IT.
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00:43 LemonLake Sure thing, mate.
00:43 LemonLake All you had to do was ask ^.^
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00:45 The_Beast Sorry LemonLake
00:45 LemonLake For what?
00:45 LemonLake Making my day better?
00:45 LemonLake ø.ø
00:45 realtinymonster LemonLake: ...
00:45 realtinymonster Shall we forgive and forget?
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00:45 realtinymonster ^GD sage advice
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00:45 Jordach i already gave the BOFH warning shot
00:45 Jordach also -
00:46 Exio4 LemonLake: it is a log scale
00:47 realtinymonster #gitpack is open for buiseness!
00:47 LemonLake realtinymonster:  Woo
00:48 realtinymonster ^ sarcasm?
00:48 LemonLake I'm interested in it
00:48 LemonLake Your screenshot from earlier was neat
00:48 realtinymonster yeah
00:48 realtinymonster hold on
00:48 LemonLake Got a link?
00:49 realtinymonster yeah
00:50 realtinymonster gtg
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01:34 The_Beast Hello
01:35 The_Beast stormchaser3000 you there?
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02:31 kizeren gitpack?
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03:17 RTM[Kindle] megaf: hi
03:18 Megaf Hi there
03:18 Megaf How are things RTM[Kindle] ?
03:19 RTM[Kindle] fine. gitpack is almost public!
03:19 Megaf sounds good
03:19 Megaf Will it be use to use?
03:20 RTM[Kindle] use to use?
03:20 Megaf oops
03:20 Megaf easy to use
03:21 RTM[Kindle] as any dynamic texture pack can be.
03:21 Megaf never mind
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03:21 Megaf RTM[Kindle]; so just clone it to textures folder
03:22 Megaf is that it?
03:22 RTM[Kindle] mmhmm
03:22 RTM[Kindle] and pull often
03:24 RTM[Kindle] should be a challenge to keeep the MC and MT versions in sync
03:24 Megaf its awesome
03:24 Megaf Im testing it out right now
03:25 RTM[Kindle] thanks, wanna help?
03:26 RTM[Kindle] the newest thing is liquids
03:28 RTM[Kindle] tomorrow comes furnace and chest
03:28 Megaf is there wool already?
03:28 RTM[Kindle] ^ Megaf
03:29 RTM[Kindle] i have concept drawings but not yet
03:31 RTM[Kindle] http://zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack/
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03:31 RTM[Kindle] ^ Megaf
03:36 RTM[Kindle] VanessaE: You there?
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03:36 RTM[Kindle] hi exio4
03:37 Megaf RTM[Kindle]; I'm quite impressed actually
03:37 Megaf you got good stuff
03:37 RTM[Kindle] thanks!
03:38 Megaf RTM[Kindle]; I'm making a new server and using git pack when you get more items
03:38 RTM[Kindle] like the concept wool?
03:38 RTM[Kindle] sweet!
03:40 VanessaE yes?
03:40 RTM[Kindle] ^ Megaf (sorry)
03:42 RTM[Kindle] did you see gitpack?
03:43 RTM[Kindle] 1
03:44 RTM[Kindle] oops
03:45 RTM[Kindle] <-- has slow replies because kindle
03:46 * RTM[Kindle] hugs Megaf
03:46 kaeza thought you were on iPhone
03:47 * Megaf has slow replies because he is testing the gitpack
03:47 RTM[Kindle] lol why?
03:47 RTM[Kindle] kaeza: sarcasm?
03:47 Megaf yep
03:48 kaeza u dont say
03:48 Megaf I don't
03:48 RTM[Kindle] IRC sarcasm just don't work.....
03:49 kaeza[PC] :^P
03:49 RTM[Kindle] :D
03:50 RTM[Kindle] lol
03:50 RTM[Kindle] hmm
03:51 RTM[Kindle] I wish SNES had a net connection
03:52 kaeza[PC] it had
03:52 kaeza[PC] sort of... BS Satellaview
03:52 RTM[Kindle] !?!
03:52 kaeza[PC] also... wut https://github.com/hdastwb/freeminer/commi​t/f59dd8840fe95bcf483813e0306fe8faa4ef9225
03:53 RTM[Kindle] good enough for IRC?
03:53 Megaf[Debian] RTM[Kindle]; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBAND
03:54 RTM[Kindle] Megaf: Kindle browser is singletab
03:54 RTM[Kindle] :/
03:54 Megaf[Debian] RTM[Kindle]; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview
03:54 Megaf[Debian] RTM[Kindle]; can't you get Opera for kindle?
03:55 RTM[Kindle] msg it to zsoltisawesome
03:56 RTM[Kindle] It's a Kindle 4 :/
03:57 RTM[Kindle] so no, i cant
03:57 RTM[Kindle] hmm
03:59 RTM[Kindle] megaf: http://zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack
03:59 RTM[Kindle] bbs, checking links
04:06 Megaf[Debian] Gitpack does looks good http://www.zimagez.com/zima​ge/screenshot1263062226.php
04:06 Megaf[Debian] http://www.zimagez.com/zima​ge/screenshot1263074388.php
04:06 Megaf[Debian] http://www.zimagez.com/zima​ge/screenshot1263094937.php
04:06 Megaf[Debian] http://www.zimagez.com/zima​ge/screenshot1263082276.php
04:11 Megaf[Debian] Brazilian Rock https://play.spotify.com/al​bum/13WLR3zNusjN8Sc9E5WkoH
04:11 Megaf[Debian] Brazilian real Rock, I mean
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04:28 RTM[Kindle] Megaf[Debian]: back, any gitpack issues?
04:28 Megaf[Debian] yep
04:28 Megaf[Debian] the fence icon is the old fence
04:29 RTM[Kindle] also, plz change nick back?
04:29 Back :P
04:29 RTM[Kindle] we haven't textured that yet
04:30 RTM[Kindle] lal
04:31 RTM[Kindle] !seen WindHero
04:31 MinetestBot RTM[Kindle]: windhero was last seen at 2014-05-29 23:58:56 UTC on #minetest
04:34 RTM[Kindle] #DEADFF is a cool color
04:34 RTM[Kindle] heheh
04:36 RTM[Kindle] Megaf: did you see the WIP wools?
04:36 Megaf Im not sure
04:38 RTM[Kindle] http://zsoltisawesome.inso​mnia247.nl/gitpack/red.png Megaf
04:38 RTM[Kindle] and gray.png
04:39 RTM[Kindle] and blue.png
04:39 RTM[Kindle] you like?
04:41 * RTM[Kindle] wonders why Megaf is slow
04:42 * Megaf is surfing
04:42 Megaf RTM[Kindle]; yep, that texture looks good
04:42 RTM[Kindle] ?
04:42 * Megaf is surfing, on the interwebs
04:42 RTM[Kindle] thanks
04:43 RTM[Kindle] lol
04:44 RTM[Kindle] no tab-complete on kindle...
04:47 RTM[Kindle] Gøøglyhocus!
04:49 RTM[Kindle] teh kindle be not liking IRC
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04:52 * RTM[Kindle] noms Megaf softly
04:55 * RTM[Kindle] leaves
04:57 RTM[Kindle] !tell WindHero I was on, you weren't...
04:57 MinetestBot RTM[Kindle]: yeah, yeah
04:58 RTM[Kindle] <3 MinetestBot
04:58 MinetestBot <3 RTM[Kindle]
04:59 RTM[Kindle] Megaf: Bye!
04:59 Megaf cya
05:00 RTM[Kindle] in a few hours!!
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06:45 Krock http://xkcd.com/936/
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07:18 sfan5 meow
07:18 sfan5 hi every1
07:18 sfan5 :3
07:18 VanessaE howdy
07:21 CraigyDavi hi
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08:39 markveidemanis Wu
08:40 markveidemanis HI!
08:41 VanessaE hi
08:44 markveidemanis Oh shit wrong channel to have a rant in
08:44 markveidemanis I thought this was anothe channel but Hi anyway
08:44 markveidemanis My server crashed with the same bug again
08:44 VanessaE what bug
08:45 markveidemanis creativechanger/init.lua:138: attempt to index local 'player' (a nil value)
08:45 markveidemanis I tried to fix it now
08:46 markveidemanis if not player == nil and not player == "" then shit else print "LOL"
08:46 markveidemanis I think I fixed it
08:46 markveidemanis My shitty code
08:47 markveidemanis My hobby: undoing
08:47 markveidemanis tail -f nohup.out
08:48 VanessaE if not xxxxx == nil   is the same thing as writing  if xxxxx
08:49 VanessaE if player and player ~= "" ten shit else print "LOL" end
08:49 VanessaE is how you would properly write the line above.
08:49 markveidemanis This seems to work, i don't really understand those xxxxx
08:49 markveidemanis Yeah, Lua, not my language
08:50 VanessaE xxxx is what I often use as a substitute, same thing as writing "foo" or "blah"
08:50 VanessaE anyway:
08:50 VanessaE don't use   if not foo == nil
08:50 VanessaE don't use   if not foo == ""  either.
08:51 markveidemanis Okay
08:51 markveidemanis What's better?
08:51 VanessaE the first one is a double negative, like saying "I ain't not going there".
08:51 VanessaE instead of,  if not foo == nil   write,   if foo
08:52 VanessaE instead of,   if not foo == ""   write,   if foo ~= ""
08:52 VanessaE ~=  means "is not equal to"
08:52 markveidemanis ok
08:52 markveidemanis Right
08:53 markveidemanis if player ~= nil and player ~= "" then
08:53 VanessaE n o
08:53 VanessaE rather,
08:53 VanessaE if player and player ~= "" then
08:53 VanessaE see, if something is nil, it evaluates as "false". anything else evaluates as "true"
08:54 markveidemanis Ah, gotcha
08:54 markveidemanis Someone told me that wasn't right first time...
08:54 VanessaE so "if player"  is the same, syntactically, as saying "if player ~= false"
08:54 VanessaE now, if you're *actually* looking for "false" as distinct from "nil", then you have to check for it separately.
08:56 VanessaE of course, if the player object is an empty string, it'll probably evaluate to false anyway, so you might be able to just do,   if player then...
08:56 VanessaE but see how it works.
08:57 VanessaE oh, excuse me, I meant to say,  "if player"  is the same, syntactically, as saying "if player ~= false and player ~= nil"
08:57 VanessaE but you get that.
08:58 markveidemanis Ok
08:58 markveidemanis What's 'pass' in lua
08:58 markveidemanis I don't want to print lol anymore
08:59 VanessaE pass?
08:59 VanessaE not sure what that means
08:59 markveidemanis if not then end?
08:59 markveidemanis or else end
08:59 VanessaE oh
08:59 VanessaE just leave out the else clause
08:59 VanessaE if foo then blah end
08:59 markveidemanis ok
08:59 VanessaE you don't need an else.
09:00 markveidemanis Ok, it works
09:00 markveidemanis Thanks!
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09:02 nman3600 hia
09:02 VanessaE hi
09:07 markveidemanis Hi nman
09:17 nman3600 Hi mark
09:17 nman3600 #multitest is up
09:18 nman3600 i was messing around with NBE yesterday and made a really crappy table
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09:29 markveidemanis Sokomine, your lock mod doesn't work
09:29 markveidemanis It does nothing on '/help'
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09:56 markveidemanis I need help with the craft guide
09:56 markveidemanis And the group: items
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10:03 nman3600 hey rubenwardy
10:03 rubenwardy Hello!
10:03 nman3600 @all #multitest is up if you want to join and suggest things for the mod feel free to join
10:03 rubenwardy and Hi All!
10:04 nman3600 rubenwardy i'm starting to get good at NBE :)
10:06 VanessaE guten morgen, rubenwardy
10:06 VanessaE rubenwardy: nodebox editor got a workout yesterday:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/h​obbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20​-%2005302014%20-%2012%3a04%3a41%20AM.png
10:06 VanessaE :)
10:07 rubenwardy Is it working okay?
10:07 rubenwardy That is cool
10:07 rubenwardy I like the bottom left one the most XD
10:07 nman3600 me 2
10:08 VanessaE yes, it seems to work fine but for one issue:  there's no way to zoom in on the perspective view.  coulda sworn there was a key to do that at one tim,e
10:08 VanessaE -,
10:09 nman3600 VannesaE there was i noticed that yesterday it was wasd and arrows but it doesn't work any more :(
10:09 rubenwardy I think there was, but I most have removed it in a rewrite.
10:09 rubenwardy (VanessaE)
10:09 LazyJ Howdy, folks ;)
10:09 VanessaE oh ok
10:09 VanessaE hi LazyJ
10:10 LazyJ VanessaE, is there another IRC setup for your server? Inchra.net seems to be toast atm.
10:10 nman3600 heya Lazyj
10:10 VanessaE rubenwardy: that aside, it seems good.  The ability to flip the X and Z views to their opposite sides would be good, and especially useful would be the ability to sort all or part of the nodebox list by any of the coordinates (at my discretion)
10:10 VanessaE LazyJ: use 192.99.11.10 for your IRC server.
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10:11 VanessaE that's digitalaudioconcepts.com, still goes into inchra net but that'll get around the bad DNS server.
10:13 rubenwardy Added all those suggestions to todo.
10:14 VanessaE thanks :)
10:15 VanessaE anyways it worked pretty well this time around (I re-cloned before designing those objects)
10:15 VanessaE a glitch I noticed:  sometimes a click on a node entry in the list is half-ignored.
10:15 VanessaE nodebox entry*
10:15 VanessaE the entry will highlight, but the nodebox itself won't get selected.
10:16 rubenwardy That is interesting
10:16 VanessaE also, don't scroll the list unless the entry is already partially off the top/bottom
10:16 rubenwardy That is irrlicht. I don't control that :P
10:16 VanessaE oh ok
10:17 VanessaE well better to move it to the center of the list then if you can
10:18 LazyJ Thanks, VanessaE. Now I have that noisy channel again. ;)
10:18 VanessaE haha
10:18 markveidemanis Is the IRC mod a processor hog?
10:19 VanessaE markveidemanis: not that I've see
10:19 markveidemanis WIll 256MB ram do?
10:19 VanessaE seen*
10:19 markveidemanis 15 players
10:19 VanessaE markveidemanis: no.
10:19 VanessaE 512MB - you need to leave some overhead for your OS too
10:19 markveidemanis Minetest's pretty much the only thing
10:19 markveidemanis Killed apache and sendmail
10:20 VanessaE you can get by with 256 MB if you really *must* but it'll be slow
10:20 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/co​mmit/44461ce144178a1de408a232855997aca43f17f7
10:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Possible fix to node box list box selection · 44461ce · rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor · GitHub
10:20 VanessaE hope you got enough swap.
10:21 markveidemanis 128M swap
10:21 VanessaE rubenwardy: oh also, if I start the nodebox editor and I'm not already in its top level dir, none of its textures will load.
10:21 LazyJ Github... Is there a drag-n-drop or synch function like Dropbox or is it all command-line?
10:22 VanessaE might be a good idea to have it internally `cd` to one level up from bin.
10:22 VanessaE or otherwise try to find its files ;)
10:22 rubenwardy Yeah, I know about that. ShdowNinja changed that so it is run with ./bin/nodeboxeditor.
10:22 rubenwardy The cd thing will be done XD
10:23 VanessaE ok :)
10:23 VanessaE insert list of other random bugs that I haven't yet discovered ;)
10:23 VanessaE good old Corner-case Vanessa :D
10:24 VanessaE where's the TODO at anyway? :)
10:25 rubenwardy I can't notice all the errors/bugs/glitches myself, so it report it is good
10:25 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/N​odeBoxEditor/issues?state=open
10:25 VanessaE oh derp
10:26 rubenwardy XD
10:26 VanessaE #15 is not a problem anymore under Xubuntu 14.04
10:27 VanessaE at least not for me, worked right out of the box.
10:28 rubenwardy Renamed. It still happens to some people
10:28 VanessaE oh ok
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10:29 VanessaE another thing that would be useful, tab-formatting of the output of the "export" function
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10:32 VanessaE rubenwardy: lemme revise that last statement... another thing that would be useful, decimal-aligned output of the "export" function, e.g. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7550544/
10:33 VanessaE (always making sure there's one or more spaces after a comma)
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10:55 john_minetest Hello everypony
10:55 * VanessaE pokes rubenwardy
10:55 VanessaE hi john
10:55 rubenwardy hmmmm/
10:55 rubenwardy Interesting suggestion#
10:55 VanessaE rubenwardy: I find that formatting nodebox tables in that manner infinitely easier to read and edit.
10:55 rubenwardy can't you just do s/", "/",\t" in a text editor?
10:56 VanessaE I could but that doesn't always work, especially when some numbers are three decimal places and some are 9 ;-)
10:56 VanessaE (plus space-formatting them keeps the line lengths shorter)
10:57 markveidemanis My creative mod is a fail
10:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: why?
10:57 markveidemanis Doesn't update on login anymore
10:57 markveidemanis And i don't know Lua
10:57 markveidemanis And how to make it compatible with new minetest
10:57 markveidemanis It used to work
10:58 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9239099 works if i relog
11:11 markveidemanis please help
11:11 markveidemanis It doesn't update instantly
11:11 VanessaE no idea
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11:12 markveidemanis Config: http://pastie.org/9239130
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11:20 Exio4 calinou's idea for health would be a nice to have in default in some time
11:20 Exio4 what do you think?
11:20 Exio4 going to a 100 "HP" health bar
11:20 VanessaE that would be a good idea, yes
11:21 VanessaE having only 20 hp to work with when assigning values to food makes things tricky.
11:21 VanessaE causes some foods to become overvalued
11:21 VanessaE (especially "raw" ones)
11:22 VanessaE it would require a lot of changes to a fair number of mods though
11:22 VanessaE as well as many games
11:22 VanessaE just making it allow for decimal values would be easier
11:23 VanessaE backward compatible with old mods too
11:23 VanessaE (in theory)'
11:23 rubenwardy No mods will be broken if you multiply the effect using minetest.register_on_item_eat
11:25 VanessaE multiply it how?
11:25 VanessaE you mean like 100 hp internally and just so supplied #hearts * 5?
11:25 VanessaE do*
11:26 rubenwardy hp_change * (100/6)
11:26 VanessaE how would a mod specify a different value other than 1-20? e.g. to take full advantage of finer graduation?
11:26 rubenwardy if 6 is the current max hp
11:27 rubenwardy add a flag? use a table as hp_change?
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11:27 rubenwardy decimals?
11:27 VanessaE decimals makes the most sense
11:27 VanessaE in which case, couldn't the whole thing be handled as floats?
11:28 VanessaE (without up-converting to the proposed 1-100 range)
11:29 LemonLake Statbars would need to support it
11:29 Exio4 i'd do this for 0.5
11:29 LemonLake 0.4.10*
11:29 Exio4 0.5*
11:30 LemonLake 0.4.10*
11:30 Exio4 i repeat, 0.5 :)
11:30 Exio4 at same time everything breaks
11:30 kaeza[PC] this would prolly need a new API, say, set_hp_new(cur_hp [, max_hp]) or whatever, to keep set_hp() or whatever backwards compatible
11:30 Jordach TIL the FSF needs a network / server admin who can get extremely high nethack scores
11:30 LemonLake But Exio, it's 0.4.10
11:30 kaeza or wait until 0.5.0 :)
11:30 LemonLake The next version is 0.4.10
11:31 Exio4 i'm not talking about the 0.4.x tree
11:31 VanessaE LemonLake: he means the proposed version step after 0.4.10, when everything is gonna go to hell for a short while
11:31 VanessaE :)
11:31 LemonLake Just a small hp change isn't enough for a major release
11:31 LemonLake Ah okay.
11:31 kaeza LemonLake, it will be 0.4.10, but sometime in the future (not necessarily immediately) the 0.4 series will go
11:32 Jordach we'll probably get 0.4.13 and then move onto 0.5
11:32 kaeza ...and hardware lighting!
11:32 * kaeza hides
11:32 VanessaE kaeza: I think HW lighting will be sooner than that
11:33 kaeza multiple textures for nodeboxes? client side scripting? accelerated hadron colliders? who knows?
11:34 VanessaE heh
11:34 Exio4 lol
11:34 LemonLake kaeza, I think VanessaE found a way to do multitextured nodeboxes
11:34 VanessaE you forgot to mention it having blackjack and hookers. :P
11:34 kaeza :P
11:34 VanessaE LemonLake: no, I faked it.  and he already saw the screenshot :)
11:34 LemonLake Ah
11:35 LemonLake I spent hours trying to figure out how you managed it to look like that
11:35 Exio4 the nice thing of 0.5 will be the "cleaning up" part
11:35 Exio4 imo ^
11:35 LemonLake ^
11:35 Exio4 because the code is full of legacy code and shit that is supossed to be compatible w/ older versions
11:35 VanessaE I tell you what, I really wished I had per-nodebox textures while doing those updates, but at the same time I'm glad I didn't, because I really *really* didn't want to have to actually *make* them.
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11:35 LemonLake Haha
11:36 LemonLake Maybe UV mapping?
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11:36 LemonLake Greeting NakedFury and nman3600
11:36 Jordach meshnodes coukd solve all of that ;)
11:36 VanessaE idk
11:36 kaeza in the meantime, have to use buggy entities :(
11:36 VanessaE Jordach: maybe
11:36 nman3600 Hi LemonLake #multitest is up
11:36 LemonLake I quite like the sound of UV mapping, actually
11:37 VanessaE kaeza: yeah :-/
11:37 kaeza well, not too buggy as of late
11:37 LemonLake nman3600: #multitest is always up, I ChanServ'd it for you
11:37 nman3600 ik
11:37 nman3600 i'm on it though that's what i meant
11:37 kaeza used to be worse (/me looks at entity duplication)
11:37 LemonLake ø.o
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11:39 Exio4 i don't code a shit though
11:39 VanessaE ok, time for me to get to bed.... about four hours late
11:39 VanessaE night all
11:39 Exio4 wtf
11:39 Exio4 night VanessaE
11:39 kaeza night V
11:39 LemonLake G'night VanessaE
11:39 LazyJ G'night, VanessaE ;)
11:40 Jordach c-c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker
11:41 LemonLake What does an InvRef list look like?
11:42 kaeza >The Player's total cubic volume is 1664 cubic pixels, and since each pixel is 244.140625 cubic centimeter, the player's total volume is 406,250 cubic centimeters. The average human body weighs 1.062 grams/cubic centimeter. This means that the player's weight is exactly 431.44 Kg (916.16 lbs).
11:43 LemonLake ø.ø
11:43 LemonLake player is fat
11:44 kaeza that can't be right
11:45 Exio4 1664 cubic pixels?
11:45 LemonLake That's nearly 7x the world average
11:45 Exio4 how did he measured that
11:45 Exio4 16x16x16?
11:45 kaeza based on default skin size and size of model in-game
11:45 kaeza probably
11:45 Exio4 ah
11:46 Exio4 k
11:46 LemonLake I got 1024 for the head and the torso
11:46 LemonLake so I think 1664 sounds about right
11:46 LazyJ Hmm... I convinced that some players are hollow and empty, particularly above the shoulders. That should make their weight go down. ;)-
11:46 LemonLake true
11:46 kaeza heh
11:47 LemonLake Be careful with your terms here guys
11:47 LemonLake Mass != weight
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11:48 Exio4 the gravity is minetest isn't fixed
11:48 LemonLake So you're being pulled less when higher up?
11:48 Exio4 it can be negative, can't it?
11:48 LemonLake In reality, no
11:48 Jordach !c (8*8)+((12*8)*3)+((4*4)*4)+((12*8)*4)
11:48 MinetestBot 800
11:48 Jordach 800 pixels if i did it right
11:48 LemonLake That would just be little gravity and a lot of velocity
11:48 Exio4 LemonLake: reality? what is that game
11:49 LemonLake It's the one where you get off your fat ass and see the outside world
11:49 LemonLake Best game you'll ever play
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11:49 nman3600_ lol fail
11:49 Exio4 is it that game with 64k resolution but shitty gameplay?
11:49 kaeza don't play it; it's proprietary and costs way too much
11:49 LazyJ wb, Megaf ;)
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11:50 Exio4 somewhen i'll build elsa's ice castle in minetest >:D
11:50 nman3600 lol u shou;d
11:50 Megaf Hi all
11:50 Megaf thanks LazyJ
11:50 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
11:50 nman3600 hi Megaf
11:50 kaeza goddude0 doesn't want to make it open source :(
11:50 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
11:50 LemonLake I don't think it's worth it Exio4
11:50 Exio4 IT IS WORTH IT
11:50 LemonLake It lacks a lot of detail, you'll be improvising a lot
11:51 Megaf 04:52:10: ACTION[ServerThread]: madigan joins game. List of players: cathryn nikanikolaeva Lion Zerdo madigan
11:51 Megaf Segmentation fault
11:51 Megaf That's for sure is a well coded game
11:51 Exio4 you'll be extrapolating a lot (?)
11:51 kaeza gdbiyf
11:51 LemonLake Pretty much, Exio4
11:53 Exio4 i should watch frozen again and start taking notes of the moments with parts of the castle
11:53 Megaf Now my server wont even start
11:53 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/102548/
11:53 LazyJ Segmentation fault? Hopefully one day those will be things of the past. My 2014_05_24 release Minetest (compiled on Linux) has been dumping it's core more often than I can remember.
11:53 LemonLake Megaf: From a glance it looks like cathryn has a corrupt file
11:54 Megaf I's unbeliavable how unstable this piece of sofware is
11:54 nman3600 i lost my world where i had my giant enderman statue
11:55 LemonLake I have no idea where all your problems are coming from, megaf
11:55 nman3600 now i have to rebuild it :(
11:55 Megaf it's really easy to get players files corrupted
11:55 LemonLake I'm having NONE of these
11:55 Exio4 try to debug them by yourself
11:55 LazyJ Megaf, setup a script to delete *.~mt files before restart.
11:55 Exio4 the devs can't reproduce your exact usecase => they can't fix it
11:55 LemonLake ^
11:56 LemonLake Megaf, are you sure it's not just something YOU're doing to cause it?
11:56 Megaf LazyJ; devs would be able to reproduce that if they actually player the game
11:56 LemonLake Because the software is hardly this unstable for everyone else
11:56 LazyJ That was LemonLake, Megaf.
11:56 Megaf I'm the most hardware user, I'm pretty good in finding bugs on any software I use
11:57 LemonLake LazyJ: Megaf: It was actually Exio4
11:57 Exio4 :(
11:57 Exio4 i don't exist, i'm just part of your nightmare!
11:57 LemonLake ohk
11:57 nman3600 i'm not rebuilding the whole enderman statue :(
11:57 kaeza It was Col. Mustard in the Kitchen with the Pipe.
11:58 LazyJ We used to get PlayerArgsEnd crashes regularly. That's improved with MT 0.4.9. The *.~mt files are deleted when the server restarts.
11:58 Megaf LazyJ; rm -rf "*.~mt"
11:58 Exio4 >"" >shell glob
11:58 Megaf is that ok?
11:58 Exio4 it doesn't work that way
11:58 Exio4 and why -r?
11:58 Exio4 use rm -f *.~mt
11:58 Megaf habit
11:58 LemonLake Exio4: +
11:58 Exio4 just for safety reasonz, -r is bad
11:58 Exio4 unless you need it
11:59 * Exio4 already rm -rf'd some "directories" and i didn't realize til 15 seconds later
11:59 LemonLake http://imgur.com/yxLVO2Y
11:59 LemonLake So much for dumping the inventory to see what it looks like....
11:59 Megaf Actually minetesert server showed itself much more stable on the last 3 months
11:59 * kaeza made Jordach `rm -fr /*`
11:59 kaeza :D
11:59 Megaf for 2 months I havend had a single crash
11:59 Megaf but now it's happening again
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11:59 LemonLake I don't believe that
12:00 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
12:00 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (456ms)
12:00 LemonLake You keep coming to us complaining about crashes that we hardly ever get
12:00 Megaf And what changed you may ask, I added more mods
12:00 LemonLake Remove said mods.
12:00 LemonLake That'll fix it
12:00 Megaf LemonLake; the mods I added are homedecor, moretress and plantlife
12:00 LemonLake Mhm
12:00 Megaf !seen asie
12:00 MinetestBot Megaf: asie was last seen at 2014-05-29 17:25:20 UTC on ##minetest-next
12:01 LazyJ Servers are Minetest's real-time, "kitchen testing", front lines.
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12:01 LemonLake Can I make the hotbar not scale with the window?
12:02 Megaf I wish minetest were more tested by it's own developers
12:02 LemonLake It's tested quite a lot by them I should believe
12:02 LemonLake Have you seen the intense activity in #minetest-dev?
12:02 Megaf the only developer I see that test it's software a lot is proller
12:02 LemonLake </sarcasm>
12:02 LazyJ What I've found is mod may work fine in all the tests *I* can think of but when you turn the players loose with it, they find the stuff you would never have thought of. ;)
12:03 Megaf [09:02:26] <LemonLake> Have you seen the intense activity in #minetest-dev?
12:03 Megaf yep
12:03 Megaf some of the activity are cause by me
12:03 LemonLake It can get quite crazy in there at night, though
12:03 LemonLake When the likes of sapier, ShadowNinja, VanessaE, proller etc are active
12:03 proller sapier never plays gmae.
12:03 proller game
12:04 LemonLake ohai proller
12:04 Exio4 proller is a nice guy
12:04 Megaf proller; but you run the servers
12:04 Exio4 he is learning new ways to spam freeminer
12:04 LemonLake proller has sweg
12:04 Megaf so you see when it crashes
12:04 Megaf and try to fix
12:04 proller yes, i fix most server issues in fm
12:04 proller but now adds some new ;)
12:05 LemonLake <LemonLake> Can I make the hotbar not scale with the window?
12:05 Megaf I'm late for work alreay, see you soon
12:05 Exio4 meh k
12:05 LazyJ Take care, Megaf ;)
12:05 Exio4 next time try to fix the bugs by yourself
12:05 LemonLake ^^^6
12:05 proller now FM server can handle 100+ players
12:05 LemonLake okewl
12:06 Megaf btw, it's quite weird having timeouts with no players online http://paste.debian.net/102549/
12:06 LemonLake Btw d00ds, can you have an animated statbar?
12:06 LemonLake I tried previously to no luck
12:07 Exio4 Megaf: why?
12:07 LazyJ I see a lot of those time-outs in our logs.
12:07 LemonLake kden, no buddy cares
12:07 LazyJ They didn't seem to be causing a problem so I just ignore them.
12:07 LemonLake 5
12:07 LemonLake dafuq ^
12:07 LazyJ They even show up in my singleplayer world logs.
12:08 LemonLake ^
12:08 Exio4 it is a ghost
12:08 Exio4 they're our herobrine
12:08 LemonLake herobrine is such a stupid thing that kids believe in
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12:09 LemonLake am I devoiced or something?
12:09 LazyJ Heh. Wait till they are old enough to have jobs. "Herobrine" does nasty things to their paychecks before they receive them. :/
12:10 LemonLake because they buy too many skinpacks on the xbox edition
12:12 Jordach LemonLake, remind me to add autoban for nicks that kids imitate for BFD servers
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12:16 Jordach >auto preset generation >auther box has computer says no
12:17 john_minetest computer says... no!
12:21 rubenwardy 180 faces, took 5 minutes in blender: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ls5​7b54zs470po/newtower.png?dl=1
12:25 john_minetest I thought you rendered a crowd :P
12:25 Megaf I'm back, now at workplace
12:25 john_minetest How can that one have so many faces?
12:26 Megaf LazyJ: well, that should not happen
12:26 Megaf I need more staff on my server
12:26 LazyJ wb, Megaf ;)
12:26 LazyJ Sorry, Megaf, I lost track of the chat. What was the topic?
12:27 Megaf [09:06:01] <Megaf> btw, it's quite weird having timeouts with no players online http://paste.debian.net/102549/
12:27 Megaf [09:07:36] <LazyJ> They didn't seem to be causing a problem so I just ignore them.
12:27 LazyJ Ah.
12:27 LazyJ Yup. I noticed them sometime within the 0.4.9 series.
12:27 LazyJ The hotbar null thing too.
12:28 LazyJ The hotbar null thing still shows up on the initial start of my more recent 0.4.9 clients but not as bad as I've seen reported.
12:28 john_minetest rubenwardy: 2683 faces, 5.37 seconds to render -->  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/KUwuxG_oM3Cj.png
12:28 rubenwardy awesome
12:29 LazyJ Those timeouts also show up in my singleplayer logs.
12:29 rubenwardy now optimise for a video game XD
12:29 john_minetest rubenwardy: one sec...
12:29 LazyJ At times these bugs can be frustrating. I just try to take them in stride.
12:30 LazyJ I have over a years worth of Github downloads of Minetest releases all the way back to 0.4.2r... I think.
12:30 LazyJ Once in a while I'll compile one and I am reminded of how far MT has come.
12:30 Megaf heh
12:31 kaeza if you clone the repo, you can go back to the first version uploaded ;)
12:31 LazyJ There are more than a few of the unstable releases that really fubared the main menu and couldn't create a minetest.conf.
12:31 LazyJ Those were a hassle.
12:31 Megaf Well, I've been running Minetest Server for almost two years now
12:31 LazyJ I'm still trying to figure out Github, kaeza.
12:32 LazyJ Trying to get things to upload is such a hassle.
12:32 FreeFull The wonders of version control
12:33 LazyJ Version control is still an "unknown" for me.
12:33 rubenwardy Kaeza, LazyJ: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree​/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c
12:33 LazyJ All this stuff is new territory for me. (uftah!)
12:34 kaeza rubenwardy, I already tried it :)
12:34 rubenwardy XD
12:34 john_minetest rubenwardy: Oh, I had a lowpoly mesh but only when the weapon was ugly.
12:34 kaeza had a screenie somewhere
12:34 rubenwardy What features does it have?
12:34 rubenwardy john_minetest: make good use of textures when doing low poly.
12:34 john_minetest rubenwardy: Btw, that weapon is intended to be used in a game. :P
12:35 rubenwardy With 2000 polys? nah
12:35 LazyJ Thanks for the link, kaeza ;)
12:35 rubenwardy 500 - 1000 is what I would expect
12:35 john_minetest rubenwardy: The player will have to hold that thing 2 cm from his eye all the time.
12:35 rubenwardy LazyJ: :S
12:35 rubenwardy Which is why it isn't 50 polys
12:36 rubenwardy Actually, that is probably impossible
12:37 kaeza LazyJ, s/kaeza/rubenwardy/
12:37 * LazyJ still has no idea what that means... so  donut/coffee/LazyJ/now. ;)-
12:37 rubenwardy <rubenwardy> Kaeza, LazyJ: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree​/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c
12:38 rubenwardy <LazyJ> Thanks for the link, kaeza ;)
12:39 rubenwardy LazyJ:   s/one/two means replace one with two
12:39 LazyJ Ah.
12:39 rubenwardy To find that link, I had to guess the number of the last page of commits
12:40 rubenwardy Went like this: 50, 200, 100, 105, 105 (hit!)
12:40 rubenwardy Went like this: 50, 200, 100, 105, 104 (hit!)
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12:51 rubenwardy Why a time out of 4 minuts, 12 seconds? Weird choice
12:51 markveidemanis Well
12:51 markveidemanis I had a go at lua
12:51 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9239504
12:51 markveidemanis It prints bad player
12:54 markveidemanis lol russian people
12:54 markveidemanis <Masha> Character conversion failed!
12:56 Megaf holy crap, it crashed AGAIN http://paste.debian.net/102554/
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12:56 Megaf I ran out of disk space!!!!!!!!!!!
12:57 Megaf rollback.sqlite gets huge very quicly
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12:59 rubenwardy It would be good to have a flag in each map block which indicates if it has been modified. Then you could do minetest --database-clean --worldname one
12:59 rubenwardy Deletes all unmodified map blocks
13:00 Megaf yep, maps gets huge too
13:01 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=143347#p143347
13:02 Exio4 i hate webpages that i have to see with only 25% of my resolution
13:03 proller its also solved in fm ;)
13:03 rubenwardy Is everything solved in fm?
13:03 LemonLake rofl
13:03 Jordach including the answer to everything and the universe
13:04 proller no, but most annoying things
13:04 LemonLake proller
13:04 LemonLake in fm can you hide player nametags?
13:04 rubenwardy http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/fu​ll-list-of-changes-from-minetest.110/
13:04 proller as in mt, only far
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13:06 Exio4 proller: can freeminer take my exams?
13:07 Megaf auto reconnect if connection lost
13:07 Megaf do not save not changed generated blocks (reduce base size 5-20x)
13:07 Megaf well done proller
13:07 Megaf now get rid of leveldb dependency and I will test freeminer
13:07 proller fm saves players to leveldb
13:08 proller and have kv api for mods
13:09 proller installing leveldb much easier
13:10 Megaf proller: can't you bundle leveldb?
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13:12 * Megaf apologizes for the last two crashes and complains about corrupted players files
13:12 Megaf that was not a minetest fault at all
13:12 proller bundle to rpi??
13:12 Megaf my system just ran out of space
13:12 Megaf why everyone think I run a full featured minetest server on raspberry pi?
13:12 Megaf That's jsut impossible
13:13 proller fm - possible
13:13 LemonLake Why do people think you're using a raspberry pi?
13:13 LemonLake A pi isn't for fully-fledged use, it's just for educational purposes
13:13 kaeza why ARE you using an RPi for Minetest in the first place?
13:13 LemonLake ^
13:13 Megaf LemonLake: Actually I do run simple minetest server on a Pi
13:13 LemonLake Why?
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13:14 Megaf my Pixel Art server runs on a Pi
13:14 nman3600 hi
13:14 LemonLake Yes, but why?
13:14 Megaf LemonLake: because I can and the Pi have enough power for it
13:14 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
13:14 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down
13:14 kaeza lol
13:14 Megaf lol
13:14 nman3600 lol hi
13:14 Megaf not Pis fault...
13:14 LemonLake I think it is
13:14 Megaf that server used to have a month of uptime (minetest server uptime)
13:15 Megaf but someone made something nasty to minetest and it will crash now
13:15 LemonLake Megaf: I think a lot of the problems you come to us with are actually just due to your setup
13:15 LemonLake Not minetest's updates.
13:15 kaeza use Freeminer! it has mongodb and can support 1e+100 players at once consuming 0bytes of network!
13:16 LemonLake ^
13:16 RTM[Console] kaeza: holy sht
13:16 LemonLake Hey RTM ^.^
13:16 RTM[Console] that sounds promising!
13:16 RTM[Console] LemonLake: Hey man!
13:16 Megaf well, no crrupted things on the last crash
13:16 Megaf that's good
13:17 RTM[Console] LemonLake: UTC?
13:17 LemonLake ø.ø
13:17 RTM[Console] lol
13:17 RTM[Console] ./ctcp LemonLake TIME
13:17 LemonLake I realised
13:17 LemonLake RTM[Console]: BST
13:18 RTM[Console] Woot! MK8 comes out today!
13:18 LemonLake @D
13:18 LemonLake :D
13:18 RTM[Console] LemonLake: :P My computer says its UTC and auto-ajusts :P
13:18 RTM[Console] *adjusts
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13:19 LemonLake You're an hour ahead of me
13:19 LemonLake I'm assuming europe?
13:19 RTM[Console] Nein
13:19 RTM[Console] my server (which I am connected from) is in the Netherlands
13:19 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:19 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
13:19 RTM[Console] But its MST around here :D
13:19 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:19 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (387ms)
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13:20 Megaf ok, main server is up and running
13:20 RTM[Console] Megaf: Nice!
13:20 Megaf now, let's fix the Pi one
13:20 RTM[Console] yeah...
13:20 RTM[Console] I like Pi! :D
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13:20 Megaf The Pi one just ran out of RAM
13:20 Megaf 3136 wrote "" to sign at (196,3,171)
13:20 Megaf konghoua wrote "a free room" to sign at (201,4,170)
13:20 Megaf Killed
13:21 RTM[Console] kaeza [~kaeza@unaffiliated/kaeza] requested unknown CTCP NOPE from
13:21 RTM[Console] RTM[Console]:
13:21 Megaf due to a fault on my configuration
13:21 RTM[Console] kaeza: WTF?
13:21 Krock :p ^
13:23 RTM[Console] LemonLake: Obvious be the fact that my nick has a suffix! Woot!
13:23 RTM[Console] *by
13:23 RTM[Console] irssi FTW
13:24 Krock RTM[Console], who are you?
13:24 RTM[Console] relatinymonster, connected from NL
13:24 RTM[Console] via console
13:25 RTM[Console] *realtinymonster
13:25 Krock horrible.. you can't even spell your name correctly
13:25 RTM[Console] :/ i just woke up
13:25 RTM[Console] it be 7:25 here
13:25 RTM[Console] in da morning
13:26 rubenwardy I love the freeminer main menu. The server list icons are good
13:26 rubenwardy proller
13:26 LemonLake Can I sets the max stack size of an item?
13:26 RTM[Console] Funny thing: Hugary is in the same timezone as my server!
13:26 LemonLake I want to make it so that default:assaultriflebullets can stack to 440
13:27 Jordach LemonLake, add max_stack = 440 in the craftitem def
13:27 rubenwardy Loading screen doesn't match, though
13:27 LemonLake Oh sweet, thanks!
13:27 Jordach or was it stack_max
13:27 LemonLake kaeza: Ammo definitions ARE just craftitems, right?
13:27 Jordach !dev max_stack
13:27 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/max_stack
13:27 RTM[Console] rubenwardy: i'm sure they will get to it eventually
13:27 Jordach !dev stack_max
13:27 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/mi​netest.register_craftitem
13:27 LemonLake stack_max
13:27 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/stack_max
13:27 kaeza LemonLake, kinda
13:28 kaeza MinetestBot, stop lagging
13:28 rubenwardy I like the idea of a loading bar at the bottem, and a wiki article in the centre. or something. maybe a screenshot
13:28 kaeza MinetestBot!
13:28 MinetestBot kaeza!
13:28 RTM[Console] Lag!
13:28 LemonLake kaeza: So if I just put in stack_max in the regular definiton, not in firearms={}, it should work right?
13:28 RTM[Console] Latency Lag!
13:28 RTM[Console] Megaf: I looked at XBAND and Satellaview
13:28 kaeza LemonLake, the stack_max only affects how many bullets you can stack in your inv
13:29 kaeza (per stack)
13:29 Megaf RTM[Console]: That's interesting, isnt it?
13:29 LemonLake I know
13:29 kaeza if you want bigger magazines, you modify the definition [[somewhere]]
13:29 LemonLake I mean, if I use a normal item definition thingy outside firearms={}, it just works like normal yes?
13:29 * Megaf is compining a new build on the Raspberry Pi, that will take a while
13:29 kaeza yep
13:30 LemonLake Why not just build it on a proper machine then take it over to the PI on an SD card?
13:31 Megaf LemonLake: Because I do everything over ssh, I still could just rsync
13:31 Megaf but I'm not sure about cross compiling
13:31 LemonLake hm
13:31 Megaf It does not souds right
13:31 Megaf sounds*
13:31 LemonLake What should I call the shotgunner class?
13:32 LemonLake I have Infantry for assault rifle, Support for sniper
13:32 RTM[Console] Exactly that^
13:32 LemonLake Well okay then
13:32 kaeza BTW, the docs are quite specific in that respect: https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/​blob/master/firearmslib/ammo.lua#L20
13:32 RTM[Console] sonds cool
13:32 RTM[Console] wait...
13:32 RTM[Console] Firearms!
13:32 kaeza (except for that obvious copy & paste error :^P)
13:33 LemonLake Oh of course :L
13:33 LemonLake Firearms is the biggest thing in this gamemode :P
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13:34 LemonLake Hey nman3600, wanna test after I'm done adding classes?
13:34 nman3600 sure LemonLake
13:35 LemonLake Just need to add the ace.register_class function, put it into the HUD then we can play
13:36 RTM[Console] Megaf: https://github.com/realtinymon​ster/gitpack-minetest/pull/13
13:36 Megaf RTM[Console]: I will test that when I'm home
13:36 RTM[Console] ok
13:37 LemonLake RTM, gotta be honest
13:37 LemonLake Gitpack has a lot of textures that look like just noise
13:37 LemonLake But a lot of them actually look really nice
13:37 RTM[Console] Yeah
13:38 RTM[Console] that gravel isn't supposed to be there :?
13:39 * Megaf thinking in creating his very own game from scratch
13:39 LemonLake Good luck with that
13:39 LemonLake I thought you said you had no programming experience?
13:39 Megaf I mean, minetest game
13:39 rubenwardy !title http://forum.freeminer.org/​threads/awards-awards.139/
13:39 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Mod - Awards [awards] | Freeminer Forums
13:40 LemonLake Ah
13:40 LemonLake I'm working on one right now, it's like Ace of Spades
13:40 LemonLake Jordach: Didn't you make an AoS like gamemode?
13:41 RTM[Console] LemonLake: I made a moon gamemode :D
13:42 Krock ack.. my mobile phone's battery is gonna _DIE_
13:42 RTM[Console] Don't DIEEEEEEEE!
13:42 LemonLake Krock: This is not google+
13:42 Krock air came inside and it's a bit thicker now
13:42 Krock LemonLake, omg oops
13:42 * Krock does like worried
13:43 kaeza you do what?
13:43 * RTM[Console] slaps Krock with a metal defense fish
13:43 * Krock slaps RTM[Console] for having brackets in the name
13:44 RTM[Console] Krock: what's wrong with that?
13:44 * LemonLake also slaps RTM[Console] for having brackets in the name
13:44 LemonLake It looks like dog shit
13:44 RTM[Console] Woot! Dog Shit!
13:44 LemonLake You don't need to show off that you're in console, either
13:44 * Krock slaps RTM[Console] cuz LemonLake slapped too
13:44 LemonLake There.
13:44 realtinymonster there
13:45 realtinymonster lol
13:45 * Krock slaps realtinymonster for the love of slapping statisics
13:45 realtinymonster yeah! mode +O!
13:46 * realtinymonster slaps ACTION for fun
13:46 * Krock slaps realtinymonster for slapping an offline user
13:46 * LemonLake slaps himself
13:46 * realtinymonster slaps Krock for slapping an online user
13:48 rubenwardy !rainbow realtinymonster smells like rainbows!
13:48 MinetestBot 4r4e4a7l7t7i8n8y8m3o3n3ster6 6s6mell4s4 4l7i7k7e8 8r8a3i3n3bows6!
13:48 realtinymonster hmm
13:48 LemonLake !rainbow Rainbows are rainbowy, deal with it
13:48 MinetestBot 4R4a4i7n7b7o8w8s8 3a3r3e ra6i6n6bowy4,4 4d7e7a7l8 8w8i3t3h3 it
13:49 realtinymonster I didn't get highlighted by that...
13:49 LemonLake Because it has loads of CTRL + K and numbers in between it that the client parses
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13:49 LemonLake but it highlights before it parses them
13:50 realtinymonster but when rubenwardy said !rainbow realtinymonster it didn't hilight
13:50 LemonLake "it highlights before it parses them"
13:50 LemonLake Some clients do, some clients dont
13:50 realtinymonster hmm
13:50 realtinymonster od
13:51 LemonLake 4r4e4a7l7t7i8n8y8m3o3n3s12t12e12r6
13:51 LemonLake Unless your name is that, your client wouldn't highlight it
13:51 * Krock slaps celeron55 for having the name of my CPU
13:51 Krock (name, not numbers.)
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13:53 realtinymonster ASCIIFriend says hello!
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13:53 markveidemanis I made a massive cube
13:53 realtinymonster 0/
13:53 realtinymonster /Y
13:53 realtinymonster / \
13:53 markveidemanis I need to make it netter
13:53 markveidemanis (better
13:53 kaeza nether!
13:53 LemonLake ASCIIFriend has weird arms
13:53 Krock damn, guys!close the brackets!
13:53 Krock )
13:53 LemonLake unless ASCIIFriend's torso is a wineglass
13:54 realtinymonster LemonLake: lol
13:54 LemonLake or if they're really big tits
13:54 markveidemanis (())((())))(()))()()((()(((((())))
13:54 markveidemanis sorry Krock
13:54 LemonLake ^ = lisp
13:54 Krock ))
13:54 kaeza obligatory: http://xkcd.com/859/
13:54 Krock kaeza, exactly.
13:55 Krock same with slash, use backslash to make it even
13:55 Krock \\\\
13:55 rubenwardy markveidemanis, results in: ))((((
13:55 Krock ))))
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13:55 kaeza :(){:|:}:
13:55 realtinymonster LemonLake: Asciifriend is puzzled by your remark
13:55 realtinymonster 0
13:55 realtinymonster /Y\
13:55 realtinymonster / \
13:55 rubenwardy four brackets need to be closed, two were closed without being opened.
13:56 PenguinDad https://xkcd.com/224/
13:56 realtinymonster https://xkcd.com/1010
13:57 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=9&amp;t=2434&amp;start=900#p143361
14:01 LemonLake How can I compare the name of a table entry, i.e fields.infantry to a string i.e "infantry"?
14:02 realtinymonster <>(>(><>(><>(>><(>(>(>(<><>(><(>)
14:02 Krock markveidemanis, current creative inv. works perfectly
14:02 realtinymonster solve THAT! ^
14:02 Krock )))))))))))))))>>>>>>>>> solved.
14:02 kaeza LemonLake, what are you trying to achieve
14:02 kaeza +?
14:02 LemonLake I have a definition of classes, and a formspec which has created buttons for each class
14:03 kaeza ah
14:03 markveidemanis Krock: mine doesn't
14:03 LemonLake Now when I recieve fields from the player, I want to loop through the classes and then run the appropriate action
14:03 LemonLake based on the input they gave
14:03 markveidemanis Creative might but i cant to change
14:03 Krock markveidemanis, change what? delete "creative" folder out of minetest_game-> removesit
14:04 markveidemanis I did that
14:04 rubenwardy for key, value in fields do        key would be "infantry", value will be fields.infantry
14:04 kaeza LemonLake, something like for k, v in pairs(fields) do if my_actions[k] then my_actions[k](args) end
14:04 markveidemanis Creative changer works intil someone times out
14:04 rubenwardy or do fields["infantry"]
14:04 Krock markveidemanis, get unified inventory
14:04 rubenwardy kaeza: inb4 XD
14:04 kaeza :/
14:04 rubenwardy for key, value in pairs(fields) do        key would be "infantry", value will be fields.infantry
14:04 markveidemanis No Krock
14:04 LemonLake rubenwardy, kaeza: So fields["infantry"] == fields.infantry?
14:04 markveidemanis I hate sounds
14:04 kaeza yes
14:04 rubenwardy yes, LemonLake
14:04 Krock markveidemanis, edit them away?!
14:04 LemonLake Oh wow.
14:04 LemonLake TIL.
14:05 markveidemanis It's too much
14:05 kaeza LemonLake, but please reserve the t[k] syntax for dynamic items :)
14:05 LemonLake Mhm
14:05 kaeza like: local a = "foo" local b = t[k]
14:06 Krock markveidemanis, just about 6 sounds
14:06 LemonLake Also, if formspec is a string, does formspec.."more" work?
14:06 kaeza yes
14:06 LemonLake TIL again :P
14:06 rubenwardy formspec + "more"
14:06 rubenwardy oh
14:06 * rubenwardy read "how does"
14:06 LemonLake rubenwardy: I think that's in C-based languages
14:06 rubenwardy like formspec + "more"
14:06 LemonLake Yeah
14:06 kaeza C++*
14:06 LemonLake I know how to use .., but I didn't know you could append to it like that
14:06 * kaeza pokes LemonLake with strcat
14:07 LemonLake I didn't think you could because you can't with integers like i+=
14:07 rubenwardy urgh
14:07 LemonLake Wait, kaeza I think you got me wrong
14:07 LemonLake I already have a string, and I want to append to it later on
14:08 Krock LemonLake, give us (pseudo-)code
14:08 kaeza I had a stupid lib around to add things like "a" * 4 = "aaaa" to Lua
14:08 LemonLake like: string = "mystring"
14:08 LemonLake string.."morestring"
14:08 Krock string = string.."morestring"
14:08 LemonLake crap, it's just the same as ints
14:08 LemonLake ah well
14:08 LemonLake thanks
14:09 Krock hmm
14:09 Krock Lua could be an amazing HTTP server plugin
14:09 Krock gonna write one in C# haha.
14:10 kaeza local user = ("Kr%c%s"):format(string.char(111, ("Fuck"):sub(3, 4))
14:10 kaeza oops
14:10 kaeza +)
14:10 LemonLake Finally, if I have a table like classes["infantry"] and I loop through classes in pairs, would k = "infantry"?
14:11 Krock user = "Krkcks"?
14:12 Krock LemonLake, for pairs, yes
14:12 Krock for ipairs, it would be v
14:13 kaeza wat
14:14 kaeza oh dear, so much to correct
14:17 kaeza !pil
14:17 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
14:17 kaeza have a nice day
14:17 markveidemanis !pil MinetestBot
14:17 realtinymonster kaeza: lol
14:17 markveidemanis ~pil
14:17 realtinymonster !pil MinetestBot
14:17 MinetestBot MinetestBot, someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
14:18 realtinymonster hehe
14:18 markveidemanis ~py print "hi"
14:18 markveidemanis :(
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14:21 realtinymonster Tux[Qyou]: Hi!
14:22 Jordach lel, pushing FL Studio to the limits and not even getting more than 2% cpu used
14:22 LemonLake love doing that
14:22 nman3600 lol
14:22 LemonLake might go back to windows to compose some music for ace of picks after I've finished classes and tested with nman
14:23 nman3600 LemonLake kay! :-)
14:23 Tux[Qyou] realtinymonster: hiii
14:23 nman3600 my skype's been silent lately :(
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14:23 LemonLake haha
14:24 nman3600 my best friend hasn't spoken to me for weeks he moved to australia
14:24 nman3600 halp!!!!!!!!
14:24 realtinymonster nman3600: who be you bbest frined?
14:24 kaeza probably eaten by kangaroos
14:24 realtinymonster lol
14:24 nman3600 kaeza lol
14:24 kaeza <.<
14:25 LemonLake Where are apps saved in linux?
14:25 markveidemanis /usr/share
14:25 markveidemanis somehwere
14:25 LemonLake Thanks mate
14:25 Jordach may have bought payday 2 ;P
14:26 LemonLake its a great game
14:26 LemonLake demanding on pc specs thoug
14:26 LemonLake h
14:26 Jordach bullshit
14:26 Jordach i'm played Planetside 2 on my hardware fine
14:26 Jordach i've*
14:26 LemonLake That's good then
14:27 Jordach LemonLake, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7551860/
14:29 Megaf 11:29:26: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: TheDoctor supplied wrong password,
14:30 Megaf The Doctor needs to take some pill for memory
14:30 realtinymonster lol
14:30 LemonLake joined #minetest
14:30 realtinymonster damn you peer!
14:30 LemonLake Force reset
14:30 realtinymonster ah
14:30 LemonLake Machine hanged
14:30 Megaf And after a memory pill
14:30 Megaf 11:29:36: ACTION[ServerThread]: TheDoctor joins game. List of players: roman TheDoctor
14:30 Megaf Whoah!
14:31 markveidemanis How do i disable something in Unified?
14:31 realtinymonster peer needs to stop resetting connections
14:31 LemonLake Where can I find the PulseAudio settings?
14:32 realtinymonster LemonLake: Under Settings -> PulseAudio :P
14:32 LemonLake Don't have any
14:32 sfan5 LemonLake: try $ pavucontrol
14:32 realtinymonster what linux?
14:32 LemonLake just got pavucontrol, maybe that'll help
14:33 realtinymonster sfan5: lol its expensive
14:33 sfan5 wat?
14:33 realtinymonster < sfan5> LemonLake: try $ pavucontrol
14:33 realtinymonster expencive ^
14:33 LemonLake I've got pavucontrol
14:33 sfan5 I might just /ignore you
14:34 MinetestBot Can you please STFU before I mass ban you.
14:34 LemonLake ^?
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14:35 * sfan5 looks at Jordach
14:35 * Jordach looks at sfan5
14:35 * sfan5 looks at Jordach
14:35 * Jordach looks at PilzAdam
14:35 sfan5 I think I should add logging for that
14:37 realtinymonster sounds like MinetestBot is getting a headache
14:37 realtinymonster sorry MinetestBot!
14:37 * sfan5 meows at MinetestBot
14:37 markveidemanis Unified is okay I guess
14:38 markveidemanis How do I disable the bags page?
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14:52 markveidemanis How do i make:
14:52 LemonLake By jumping
14:52 markveidemanis formspec = formspec .. "image_button["..(start_x + 0.6 * 0)..",9;.8,.8;ui_skip_backw​ard_icon.png;start_list;]"
14:52 markveidemanis A normal button
14:52 markveidemanis no images
14:55 LemonLake just button
14:55 LemonLake not image_button
14:56 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/formspec#button
14:57 markveidemanis formspec = formspec .. "button["..(start_x + 0.6 * 0)..",9;.8,.8;<<<:start_list;]"
14:57 LemonLake reading from irc is horrible, let me write it out for ya
14:57 LemonLake why are you doing * 0?
14:59 markveidemanis I hate the textures in unified inventory
14:59 LemonLake unified_inventory.register_button
14:59 LemonLake make a 16x16 texture called trans.png
14:59 LemonLake that's fully transparent
14:59 LemonLake actually don't
14:59 LemonLake where is this code?
14:59 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/pastes/9239750/text
15:00 markveidemanis internal.lua
15:00 LemonLake that's in the creative list, yes?
15:00 markveidemanis Near the top
15:01 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/ushXLwX5
15:01 LemonLake There you go
15:01 LemonLake Bonus search button
15:03 markveidemanis Thanks!
15:04 markveidemanis Nope
15:04 markveidemanis Doesn't work
15:04 LemonLake Did you apply it correctly?
15:04 markveidemanis I think so
15:04 LemonLake What's the error?
15:05 markveidemanis invalid button elements
15:05 LemonLake Oh, I see
15:05 LemonLake Hold on
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15:06 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/7AJDV4Lt
15:06 LemonLake Try that
15:06 LemonLake Wait
15:06 LemonLake Don't
15:06 LemonLake :L
15:06 LemonLake http://pastebin.com/sJVZWYhY That one SHOULD work
15:08 markveidemanis No
15:08 markveidemanis Same error
15:08 LemonLake The error would have details.
15:08 LemonLake What are said details?
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15:09 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9239776
15:10 EvergreenTree Good day everyone
15:10 EvergreenTree :-)
15:11 realtinymonster EvergreenTree: Good day!
15:11 LemonLake Remove the semicolons at the end
15:12 LemonLake Same ofr searchbox
15:13 markveidemanis Thanks!
15:13 markveidemanis Now the rest
15:13 LemonLake But yeah, remove the image part
15:13 LemonLake leave the button name where it is (stff like staff_list)
15:13 nman3600 AOOOHHHAHHHAOO
15:13 LemonLake add a semicolon then the label you want
15:14 LemonLake game_devs: Can you bind a new keyboard shortcut?
15:14 LemonLake Or do you have to use commands?
15:17 markveidemanis unified_inventory.register_button("craft", {
15:17 markveidemanis type = "image",
15:17 markveidemanis image = "ui_craft_icon.png",
15:17 markveidemanis })
15:17 markveidemanis was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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15:17 LemonLake Mark
15:17 markveidemanis crap, thought that was 3 lines
15:17 LemonLake Don't paste code in IRC
15:18 LemonLake Even if it's just three lines
15:18 markveidemanis I thought I selected less, sry
15:18 LemonLake <LemonLake> Even if it's just three lines
15:18 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9239802
15:18 markveidemanis I meant less than 3
15:18 LemonLake Okay now
15:18 markveidemanis I can't figure this one out
15:18 LemonLake Make a 16x16 image called trans.png
15:18 LemonLake And, of course, make it fully transparent
15:18 LemonLake Then in every register_button, just point it to said image
15:18 markveidemanis Can it be 1x1?
15:19 markveidemanis Hmm
15:19 markveidemanis I want a label there
15:19 LemonLake No because of how buttons work
15:19 markveidemanis Text instead of an image
15:19 LemonLake That would require changing the API
15:19 LemonLake Why do you want to remove the images in the first place? What's the point?
15:19 markveidemanis api.lua is not too long
15:19 markveidemanis 400KB is rediculous
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15:19 LemonLake Just use smaller images, then?
15:19 LemonLake You can just retexture them
15:20 LemonLake And what's wrong with 400kb? That's nothing in this age.
15:20 LemonLake What takes up most of that space is not the button images, but it's actually the formspec backgrounds.
15:20 markveidemanis I don't like the backgrounds mainly
15:20 LemonLake Don't bother with the images
15:20 markveidemanis I guess images on buttons can stay
15:21 LemonLake All of the bags images combined are 47.4KB
15:21 LemonLake Scale down the button images to 16x16, though
15:21 LemonLake Want me to do that for you?
15:22 LemonLake Craftguide takes up 13kb in itself :o
15:22 markveidemanis Erm...
15:22 markveidemanis The background
15:23 LemonLake ?
15:23 markveidemanis Not even the classic inventory
15:23 LemonLake ...?
15:24 LemonLake if you don't like the size of Unified inventory,w hy not just get a different mod?
15:24 markveidemanis It's the only one
15:25 realtinymonster Woot!
15:25 LemonLake markveidemanis: If you don't like the backgrounds, just either remove them and re-enable the list colors in the mod
15:25 Krock markveidemanis, zcg
15:25 LemonLake Or retexture them to be basic
15:26 LemonLake And zcg, like Krock said, is working
15:26 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5564
15:26 markveidemanis re-enable list colours?
15:27 LemonLake Just get zcg
15:27 markveidemanis Nah
15:27 LemonLake Why?
15:27 markveidemanis I like the waypoints thing
15:27 LemonLake https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8021
15:28 markveidemanis I mean the distance and stuff
15:28 LemonLake The waypoints thing, believe it or not, is super easy to make in core minetest
15:28 LemonLake It's a hud element
15:28 LemonLake http://dev.minetest.net/HUD
15:28 LemonLake Scroll down to find waypoint
15:30 markveidemanis Hm
15:30 markveidemanis I like this mod though
15:30 markveidemanis How Would I re-enable the classic inventory inside the crafting?
15:31 LemonLake Have You Tried Googling?
15:33 markveidemanis Where's the main inventory defined?
15:33 nman3600 LemonLake did u mute yourself
15:33 nman3600 ?
15:33 LemonLake Oh, yes I did
15:34 LemonLake markveidemanis: in minetest_next, it's in player.lua
15:34 markveidemanis Oh
15:34 markveidemanis player:set_inventory_formspec(gui_suvival_form)
15:34 markveidemanis No fancy elements
15:35 markveidemanis Hmm...
15:35 LemonLake look for gui_survival_form?
15:35 LemonLake logic?
15:35 nman3600 DAHAHGHAA
15:35 realtinymonster Woot! MC version of Gitpack is up-to-date!
15:35 LemonLake woohoo
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15:36 Jordach nobody gives a shit about gitpack
15:37 realtinymonster Jordach: nobody gives a shit about BFD
15:37 nman3600 LOL
15:37 realtinymonster lol
15:37 Jordach realtinymonster, just wait for ChainLynx ;)
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15:41 realtinymonster hmmm
15:43 Jordach realtinymonster, #minecraft has a no spamming rule
15:43 Jordach which i WILL ENFORCE HERE
15:43 realtinymonster hmm?
15:43 realtinymonster I spam?
15:43 realtinymonster when?
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15:46 Jordach [16:41:46] <realtinymonster> https://github.com/realtin​ymonster/gitpack-minecraft#
15:46 realtinymonster ^ that is not spam
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15:47 markveidemanis I agree, not spam
15:49 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9239876
15:50 markveidemanis I need to remove the background but that removes the whole formspec
15:50 LemonLake ace_of_picks is doing really well
15:50 LemonLake we now have classes, three gun types and they work pretty balanced
15:50 markveidemanis How do I have that nice classic inventory in place of that mess?
15:50 LemonLake I turned down the bullet range so yous upposedly can't shoot through ceilings now
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16:07 realtinymonster markveidemanis: you are on the forum!
16:07 markveidemanis Yep
16:07 realtinymonster LemonLake: you are too!
16:08 realtinymonster https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=9396
16:08 markveidemanis I can't announce to serverlist
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16:16 nman3600 name ideas for my texture pack?
16:17 zat joined #minetest
16:19 realtinymonster nman3600: what kind of TP, what stylee, what size?
16:19 markveidemanis Of all that could go wrong
16:19 markveidemanis it had to be DNS
16:19 nman3600 i'll send you some screenshots
16:19 Megaf markveidemanis; bind address set to 0.0.0.0?
16:19 markveidemanis nope
16:19 Megaf comment the server address
16:20 Megaf do comment
16:20 markveidemanis Bastards dropped my fucking domain
16:20 Megaf is curl enabled?
16:20 realtinymonster markveidemanis: what!
16:20 realtinymonster yeah, they do that
16:20 markveidemanis Bastards...
16:20 markveidemanis dot.tk
16:20 Megaf never trust free things
16:20 markveidemanis Dot TK allows you to register an unlimited number of FREE domains and an unlimited number of PAID domain names.
16:20 Megaf neither paid things
16:20 markveidemanis BULLSHIT
16:20 nman3600 realtinymonster: http://imgur.com/MQ6nULl         http://imgur.com/ppM3nnk
16:20 sfan5 Dot TK is bad!
16:20 LemonLake ^
16:21 LemonLake sfan5 said it right, set it fair and square
16:21 markveidemanis so what do i do now...
16:21 realtinymonster sfan5: Dot COM is worse
16:21 sfan5 wut
16:21 nman3600 fair ans square! why can't it be fair and circle!
16:21 * markveidemanis uses backup atomicon.tk
16:21 LemonLake Mark, look at things like dyndns, duckdns, etc
16:21 LemonLake they're free and work like a charm
16:21 sfan5 yay for duckdns!
16:21 markveidemanis freedns
16:22 realtinymonster duckdns?
16:22 nman3600 DUCKdns!
16:22 LemonLake freedns looks cheap
16:22 realtinymonster sounds quacky
16:22 realtinymonster :P
16:22 markveidemanis Literally gone from the domain panel....
16:22 LemonLake duckdns I know for a fact is good
16:22 LemonLake dyndns is aight
16:22 nman3600 realtinymonster any name ideas?
16:22 realtinymonster markveidemanis: you didn't read the fine print?
16:22 sfan5 dyndns is hit
16:22 sfan5 shit*
16:22 LemonLake I used it a few years ago, not a great fan
16:22 sfan5 they want you to pay money now
16:22 realtinymonster nman3600: use http://mediacru.sh
16:22 sfan5 they recent changed it
16:22 LemonLake sfan5 uses duckdns
16:22 sfan5 yes I do!
16:23 LemonLake http://sfan5.duckdns.org/
16:23 * Megaf uses name.com
16:23 LemonLake he stores files and shit
16:23 LemonLake and http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
16:23 sfan5 I also had sfan5.dyndns.org but they wanted money and I did not want to give them money for stuff I can get for free elsewhere
16:23 Jordach quack
16:23 * sfan5 updates the irc stat
16:23 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
16:23 nman3600 realtinymonster https://mediacru.sh/SrknFHHL2Ofx    https://mediacru.sh/fCnlyJQW3CEi
16:23 markveidemanis Okay works now
16:23 LemonLake 8people5175LemonLake
16:23 LemonLake love it
16:24 LemonLake 24Ragnar43251348217680158 days ago""I knew it! I fucking knew it!" ~ Bob Dyrdek"
16:24 LemonLake Hmm sfan5, maybe you can have some sort of cron job running for the stats?
16:25 LemonLake Update them every hour?
16:25 sfan5 LemonLake: nah
16:25 realtinymonster nman3600: looks good!
16:25 sfan5 I can do it manually
16:25 nman3600 realtinymonster name ideas?
16:25 realtinymonster nman3600: SnazzyTest?
16:25 realtinymonster :P
16:25 LemonLake sfan5, do you reckon that if I were to make a stylesheet for http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/, they'd use it?
16:26 nman3600 realtinymonster maybe
16:26 sfan5 LemonLake: maybe
16:26 * Jordach meows at sfan5
16:26 Jordach "Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2198 actions!"
16:26 * realtinymonster eats a cucumber
16:26 LemonLake How would you guys like some sort of global bans mod?
16:26 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
16:27 LemonLake Similar to mcbans
16:27 sfan5 IRC stats updated! ***
16:27 nman3600 realtinymonster maybe RPGcraft or RPGtest
16:27 nman3600 which one do you prefer
16:28 realtinymonster latter
16:28 LemonLake I have two random quotes <3
16:28 sfan5 ahaha
16:28 sfan5 Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 45 times.
16:28 sfan5 For example, like this:
16:28 sfan5 * Jordach slaps sfan5
16:28 realtinymonster LemonLake: it would be a bad idea
16:28 sfan5 Poor Jordach, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 32 times.
16:28 sfan5 For example, like this:
16:28 sfan5 * sfan5 slaps Jordach
16:28 realtinymonster lol
16:28 LemonLake Being on this IRC for (over) a week and already over 2k lines
16:28 sfan5 18th most used word: Windows
16:29 LemonLake Lol
16:29 LemonLake sfan5 vs jordach
16:30 LemonLake Is Miner_48er stupid or just asking too many questions? 43.0% lines contained a question!
16:30 LemonLake artur99 didn't know that much either. 41.4% of his/her lines were questions.
16:31 realtinymonster is this a questiom?
16:31 realtinymonster lol?
16:32 LemonLake Does minetest support music?
16:32 LemonLake Or should I just play a sound?
16:32 realtinymonster just p[lay a sound
16:32 LemonLake kk
16:32 LemonLake Off to windows to make some sounds, then!
16:33 * sfan5 throws sfxr at LemonLake
16:35 * Jordach slaps sfan5
16:35 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
16:35 Jordach 2200th /me command used
16:36 realtinymonster Jordach: now you only need 22 more :P
16:36 Jordach that won't take long
16:36 * sfan5 purrs :3
16:37 Jordach dayum i'm active in the late hours
16:37 whiskers75 sfan5: meow
16:38 Jordach it's basically me vs VanessaE
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16:38 LemonLake_ windows is sooo slooow
16:38 sfan5 ^
16:38 Jordach horseshit
16:38 Jordach BULLSHIT
16:38 Jordach why would i be using it then
16:39 LemonLake_ It used to be supa fast
16:39 LemonLake_ Until I got linux
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16:39 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake_
16:39 LemonLake_ sfan5; I'm gonna look into ways of automating stuff like the IRC stats, just to learn, not intruding or anything ^.^
16:39 * whiskers75 hissses at Windows
16:39 whiskers75 LemonLake_: crontab -e
16:39 LemonLake_ whiskers75: I know how to do shit like that
16:40 * sfan5 just did an google image search for "sfan5"
16:40 sfan5 very interesting
16:42 whiskers75 sfan5: lol
16:42 sfan5 oh god
16:42 LemonLake_ Can I get a full log from ilbot?
16:42 sfan5 before I disabled changing nick to sfan5|OFF I was even in the crosstool-ng irc logs
16:42 LemonLake_ Not just for one day, but like the ENTIRE log?
16:43 john_minetest Jordach: Windows is slow and becomes slower and slower.
16:43 realtinymonster john_minetest: lies! its deathly slow from the beginning
16:43 whiskers75 !btc
16:43 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 610.0000 $
16:44 realtinymonster :O
16:44 john_minetest I bought an old laptop and put linux on it and my brother bought a new PC with windows. His PC was slightly faster in the beginning but one month later my old laptop was MUCH faster.
16:44 john_minetest Like half or 1/3 booting time.
16:44 realtinymonster That be inflation in my boot!
16:44 realtinymonster *thar
16:44 LemonLake_ Windows startup time before Linux: 2 minutes
16:44 LemonLake_ Linux startup time: 12 seconds
16:44 sfan5 !btc EUR
16:44 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 447.8500 €
16:44 LemonLake_ Windows startup time after Linux: 19 minutes
16:44 LemonLake_ I do not kid
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16:48 kaeza !btc UYU
16:48 MinetestBot kaeza: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
16:48 kaeza :(
16:49 Krock !btc CHF
16:49 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 546.2900 CHF
16:49 kaeza !c EUR in UYU
16:49 MinetestBot NameError: name 'EUR' is not defined
16:49 kaeza ..
16:50 kaeza MinetestBot!
16:50 MinetestBot kaeza!
16:50 Krock ~give kaeza !help
16:50 ShadowBot kaeza: <!help>
16:51 kaeza for the record anyway, 1 EUR == 31.4264658 Uruguayan pesos
16:51 kaeza didn't MinetestBot have some kind of unit converter?
16:52 realtinymonster ~give MinetestBot alcohol
16:52 ShadowBot MinetestBot: <alcohol>
16:52 realtinymonster lol
17:00 Megaf ~give MinetestBot !up minetest.megaf.info
17:00 ShadowBot MinetestBot: <!up minetest.megaf.info>
17:01 LemonLake_ I think it does it over a quer
17:01 LemonLake_ y
17:02 john_minetest !usd
17:02 john_minetest :/
17:03 john_minetest !btc usd
17:03 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 614.3800 $
17:03 realtinymonster !shilling
17:03 john_minetest !btc eur
17:03 john_minetest ...
17:03 realtinymonster !btc btc
17:03 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
17:03 realtinymonster !btc dkk
17:03 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 3365.8700 kr
17:03 realtinymonster Woo hoo Donkey Kong!
17:03 realtinymonster lol
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17:04 realtinymonster !btc eur
17:04 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 451.0700 €
17:04 Krock <MinetestBot>1 BTC = 447.8500 €
17:04 Krock uh it raised
17:04 realtinymonster yeap
17:04 realtinymonster !btc eur
17:04 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 451.0700 €
17:05 realtinymonster :(
17:05 Krock wait 5 minutes and retry
17:05 realtinymonster damn
17:05 realtinymonster you beat me to it
17:05 realtinymonster i was gonna say that
17:05 Krock ninja'd
17:05 kaeza it was ~570USD a few mins ago
17:05 Krock USD < EUR
17:06 kaeza ...
17:06 realtinymonster !btc huf
17:06 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
17:06 realtinymonster srsly?
17:06 Krock too lazy to calculate if '~570USD' are more than 451.0700 €
17:07 realtinymonster sfan5: add HUF!
17:07 Krock wut's huf?
17:07 kaeza or remove !btc :)
17:07 realtinymonster http://google.com/search?q=HUF Krock
17:07 Krock "Huf" is german and is the shoe of a horse.. ehm hoof!
17:07 realtinymonster :P
17:08 Krock "Ergebnisse für
17:08 Krock Huf
17:08 Krock Huf
17:08 Krock Der Huf ist ein Horngebilde, das bei Unpaarhufern das Zehenendglied .."
17:08 Krock damn
17:08 Krock was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
17:08 kaeza lel
17:08 realtinymonster lol
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17:08 realtinymonster aHA!
17:09 Krock I thought it removes \n
17:09 realtinymonster lol
17:09 realtinymonster nope
17:10 LemonLake_ Are the devs ever gonna make it so that you can hide nametags of players from other players?
17:10 Krock nope.
17:11 LemonLake_ Why, and proof
17:11 LemonLake_ ?
17:11 NakedFury proof: they didnt make it the second they added the tags
17:11 sfan5 realtinymonster: I can't just add currencies
17:11 NakedFury all the proof you need
17:11 sfan5 I use an api
17:11 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake_
17:11 LemonLake_ sfan5?
17:12 LemonLake_ will you be able to make said feature? <3
17:12 realtinymonster LemonLake_: gah!
17:12 realtinymonster I wish
17:12 realtinymonster upon a dish
17:12 realtinymonster with fish
17:12 LemonLake_ I wish upon a fish
17:12 realtinymonster ninja'd
17:13 LemonLake_ sfan5?
17:13 kaeza hiding nametags requires the server to calculate what the player can and can't see (not a particularly trivial task, especially in Minetest), and only send to clients that, otherwise it's useless
17:14 sfan5 LemonLake_: which feature?
17:14 sfan5 ah
17:14 LemonLake_ no, kaeza
17:14 LemonLake_ A feature so that you can decide whether or not a player can see another's nametag
17:14 LemonLake_ like player:set_can_see_nametag(target)
17:15 realtinymonster LemonLake_: would be an array?
17:15 kaeza LemonLake_, Minetest is open source, and players can easily change that
17:15 sfan5 ^ good idea, open an issue on github
17:15 LemonLake_ okay
17:15 LemonLake_ I would code it if I understood the codebase, reckon it will be actually done?
17:15 kaeza meh, it's pointless
17:16 LemonLake_ It's useful in games, it's useful in servers
17:16 * kaeza goes back to coding more firearms features
17:16 LemonLake_ It's useful in a lot of places
17:16 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
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17:16 realtinymonster youdontknowme: I actually do
17:16 realtinymonster lol
17:16 kaeza LemonLake_, what is the point in telling the client "don't look at me!!! I'm hiding!!"
17:16 kaeza +?
17:17 LemonLake_ My use for it would be in my gamemode
17:17 LemonLake_ Only make teammate's names visible, so you can't see enemy nametags
17:17 LemonLake_ prevents cheating
17:17 kaeza lol okay
17:17 LemonLake_ In servers, you can hide it by distance on extremely popular servers
17:17 LemonLake_ Also for things like hide and seek
17:17 NakedFury you made the point. im hiding I dont want the players to know where
17:17 LemonLake_ Invisibility
17:17 LemonLake_ Many uses ^.^
17:17 realtinymonster to an extent
17:18 kaeza as long as the player positions are broadcast to all clients, clients can cheat by reverting the feature (see also the "no building inside your head" commit)
17:19 LemonLake_ Well that's their problem?
17:19 kaeza okay
17:19 sfan5 kaeza: you could disable sending the player pos on the server via lua
17:21 LemonLake_ Okay, posted #1345
17:21 LemonLake_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1345
17:21 kaeza more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chea​ting_in_online_games#Wallhacking
17:21 realtinymonster lol
17:21 realtinymonster kaeza: i think we all know about Wallhacking
17:22 LemonLake_ Did somebody add the labels or were they added automatically?
17:22 kaeza MESE Aliens did it
17:22 LemonLake_ Ah, sfan5 did it, thanks
17:22 LemonLake_ was wondering how to do that in the new github layout :P
17:23 LemonLake_ Anyway, back to linux, brrrrb
17:23 realtinymonster *Mese
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17:26 realtinymonster Hi ~lemonlake@host86-174-39-174.range86-174.btcentralplus.com
17:27 LemonLake Hi ~zsoltisaw@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl
17:27 realtinymonster LemonLake: did you see gitpack?
17:27 realtinymonster lol
17:27 LemonLake Yes
17:28 realtinymonster what do you think?
17:28 Calinou 5 unread comment notifications on reddit \o/ new top
17:28 LemonLake It's aight
17:28 Calinou 4, actually
17:28 LemonLake Calinou: I'd be lucky to get just one
17:29 realtinymonster what the hell is reddit about, anyway?
17:29 LemonLake Similar to forums.
17:29 LemonLake But cooler.
17:29 realtinymonster sounds fun
17:29 Calinou it's a bank: you post hype stuff and gain karma, and spend it saying the truth or hate comments
17:29 * Calinou runs
17:30 * LemonLake saw that
17:30 realtinymonster LemonLake: I think you scared off my employee :P
17:30 LemonLake Trust me he'd be no good either way
17:31 realtinymonster yeah
17:32 realtinymonster Woot!
17:32 realtinymonster \0/
17:32 realtinymonster X
17:32 realtinymonster / \
17:32 LemonLake ASCIIFriend has a fucked up body
17:32 realtinymonster why?
17:32 LemonLake idk
17:32 realtinymonster lol
17:32 LemonLake it looks like a starfish
17:33 realtinymonster XD
17:33 realtinymonster how about this:
17:33 realtinymonster \0/
17:33 realtinymonster O
17:33 realtinymonster / \
17:33 LemonLake better
17:34 realtinymonster \0/
17:34 realtinymonster A
17:34 realtinymonster / \
17:34 realtinymonster ^that?
17:34 nman3600 joined #minetest
17:34 LemonLake eiffel tower
17:34 realtinymonster lol
17:34 nman3600 hai
17:34 Calinou /)(^ε^)(\
17:34 * realtinymonster runs after Calinou
17:35 realtinymonster Taking a nap:  \_\_o
17:35 LemonLake that guy naps weird
17:36 realtinymonster i guess he like his feet to the sky :P
17:36 nman3600 Flipping a table: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
17:37 nman3600 2 people killed a 1 year old girl HOW CRUEL IS THIS WORLD
17:37 LemonLake it's called a late abortion
17:37 nman3600 lol
17:37 realtinymonster \ /
17:37 realtinymonster O O
17:37 realtinymonster / \
17:37 LemonLake not funny nman
17:37 LemonLake its a sputnik, realtinymonster
17:37 realtinymonster cartwheel
17:38 realtinymonster lol
17:38 realtinymonster v  u
17:38 realtinymonster /l\
17:38 realtinymonster / \
17:38 realtinymonster erm
17:38 realtinymonster derp
17:38 realtinymonster u
17:38 realtinymonster /l\
17:38 realtinymonster / \
17:40 nman3600 (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
17:40 nman3600 Koala bear!: ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
17:41 Calinou don't spam here
17:41 Calinou spam in ##minetestbot
17:41 Calinou or create your own spam channel
17:42 nman3600 join #emoji for emoticon fun
17:42 realtinymonster ##asciiart
17:42 nman3600 i've already made on
17:42 nman3600 e
17:42 realtinymonster what?
17:43 nman3600 #emoji has chanserv
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17:43 nman3600 well will
17:43 nman3600 and all sort's of things
17:43 LemonLake not worth having chanserv
17:43 LemonLake no point actually
17:43 LemonLake im just trolling you
17:43 realtinymonster ChanServ is a butt
17:43 realtinymonster it doens't leave
17:43 LemonLake ChanServ is a service
17:44 LemonLake @ChanServ is a bot that you can disable
17:44 LemonLake It doesn't leave for a good reason
17:44 realtinymonster I have tried to kick it and ban it, but it don't liektrhat
17:44 LemonLake Channel lock
17:45 realtinymonster they should have something like /cs invisible
17:45 LemonLake That's quite difficult to do on an IRC server
17:45 realtinymonster tha sucks
17:45 nman3600 maybe /hide (username)
17:45 LemonLake IRC is really old
17:45 nman3600 so you're hidden from the chat
17:45 LemonLake nope
17:45 LemonLake you'd still receive connections
17:47 realtinymonster IE is being stupid
17:50 Krock !EkalNomel
17:50 Krock LemonLake!
17:50 LemonLake ?
17:50 Krock EkalNomel: http://i.imgur.com/l4UNYWE.png
17:50 LemonLake wtf is up with your leaves
17:50 Krock crossed
17:50 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake
17:51 Krock like X.X
17:51 LemonLake k
17:51 LemonLake they look weird
17:51 Krock k they speed up my FPS
17:51 Calinou does anyone know URL to the mod which added health bars *above* players?
17:51 Calinou I'm looking into it for inclusion into Carbone :)
17:52 Calinou couldn't search it via forum search and search engine :(
17:55 BrandonReese it was called gauges
17:55 BrandonReese https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88808
17:56 Calinou thanks a lot BrandonReese :)
18:00 markveidemanis I corrupt my fucking world
18:00 markveidemanis Now I'm gonna use leveldb
18:00 markveidemanis will it stop that happening again?
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18:03 Calinou today I learned the hard way semi-transparency isn't supported in sprites
18:03 Calinou markveidemanis, not necessarily…
18:03 Calinou I never corrupted a world, personally
18:03 Calinou don't access it from several sources at the same time!
18:03 sfan5 Calinou: IIRC you can use something like use_texture_alpha = true, to make it use the alpha
18:04 sfan5 but maybe that is only for textures
18:05 Krock markveidemanis, leveldb is btter in much castes - but not all
18:05 Krock *cases
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18:05 markveidemanis I'l migrate it
18:09 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/pastes/9240249/text
18:13 markveidemanis disabling LevelDB fixes it
18:13 markveidemanis but i want leveldb
18:13 kaeza Jordach, https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/commi​t/877336350717abd66b3d7cef0120e29ce95a7195
18:14 sfan5 markveidemanis: try updating gcc
18:14 sfan5 or using clang
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18:17 markveidemanis apt-get upgrade?
18:17 markveidemanis I'l try update too
18:17 sfan5 first update then upgrade
18:18 Megaf And Pi is back!
18:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001
18:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (488ms)
18:18 LemonLake sfan5: I've got some response to #1345
18:19 LemonLake A few devs like the idea, now we just need someone to code it
18:19 Megaf And this is the minetest server welcome message "15:17:18: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)"
18:19 LemonLake Megaf
18:19 LemonLake people get those in isingleplayer too
18:19 LemonLake don't worry about them, it's normal
18:19 Calinou how can I make wieldview items thicker?
18:19 sfan5 More possible uses: /vanish command for server administrators;
18:19 sfan5 yes
18:19 sfan5 yes
18:19 sfan5 YES YES YES
18:19 Megaf I'm not worried, it's just a welcome message, don't you get it?
18:19 LemonLake YES
18:20 sfan5 yES!
18:20 LemonLake sfan5, if you could pass this onto some of the other devs I'd be grateful
18:20 Calinou sfan5, I'm saying that as an example, but I don't really condone it
18:20 Calinou (privacy issues)
18:20 sfan5 LemonLake: enough people will see this
18:20 LemonLake Okay :D
18:20 LemonLake Sorry, I'm just really in need of this feature
18:21 realtinymonster LemonLake: numnumnum
18:21 Krock sfan5, is that a feature: Map saving causes lag over ~15s
18:21 sfan5 yes
18:21 sfan5 dunno
18:22 sfan5 ask other ppl
18:22 Krock k
18:22 kaeza while at it, how about player:setfov()? :^)
18:22 LemonLake yeah, what happened to that?
18:23 markveidemanis I ran them the wrong way round...
18:26 kaeza oh here it is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1075
18:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: /query realtinymonster
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18:35 ShadowNinja infostream<<"ServerEnv: WARNING: Performing hack #83274"  <-- Where do the numbers come from?  ;-)
18:35 Exio4 Megaf: do you have any desktop?
18:36 Exio4 i saw that code before!
18:36 Megaf Exio4: Yes I do
18:36 Megaf why?
18:36 Exio4 Megaf: why are you not using distcc for compiling stuff in the rpi?
18:37 * nman3600 is working hard on a TP
18:37 Megaf Didnt heard of it
18:37 Megaf how does it work?
18:37 Exio4 distcc is basically having multiples computers compile an app
18:37 LemonLake ^^
18:37 Exio4 you know, like -j16 would be between 16 jobs
18:37 Exio4 you could send jobs to other computer, basically
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18:42 markveidemanis nman3600,
18:42 nman3600 yes markveidemanis?
18:42 markveidemanis Server map got completely corrupt
18:42 LemonLake ^
18:42 nman3600 oh god
18:42 markveidemanis All fucked
18:42 LemonLake Because mark used the wrong dp
18:42 markveidemanis I made a backup though
18:42 LemonLake db*
18:42 markveidemanis no
18:42 PenguinDad What happened to InchraNet?
18:42 markveidemanis Well, partially
18:42 LemonLake PenguinDad: It's up.
18:43 LemonLake Connect with digitalaudioconcepts.com
18:45 markveidemanis This will take ages
18:46 markveidemanis 5%
18:46 Calinou added health bars in Carbone!
18:46 Calinou they look pretty.
18:47 markveidemanis fuck
18:47 markveidemanis 14:46:28: ACTION[main]: Migrated 21500 blocks 10.492% completed
18:47 markveidemanis Segmentation fault
18:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: recompile a debug build, run with gdb --args <the command you ran now>
18:48 Calinou LevelDB is not proven to be faster or better, but the practical upsides are: worlds of more than 4 GB are supported and you can access it from several sources without corruption.
18:48 Calinou it may actually feel slower.
18:48 sfan5 when it crashes to "bt full"
18:48 Calinou (for me, it clearly does)
18:49 Calinou I've successfully mapped (using minetestmapper-numpy) both sqlite and leveldb worlds
18:50 markveidemanis I'l download the world and see if I can make it work
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18:54 ShadowNinja Calinou: SQLite3 should work with worlds that are much larger than 4GB.  It's maximum is in the terabyte range IIRC.
18:54 Calinou I heard it was broken above 4 GB
18:54 * sfan5 did too
18:54 Calinou (i didn't test a world)
18:54 Calinou my worlds are 50MB at most :P
18:55 ShadowNinja I've heard so too, but I've also heard that missing disk space caused that once.
18:55 EvergreenTree Calinou: Yeah, I don't really do a lot of survival in minetest
18:55 EvergreenTree mostly dev'ing
18:55 ShadowNinja I have yet to see sufficient proof that SQLite3 corrupts maps.
18:56 Krock ^
18:56 ShadowNinja And I doubt we're the only ones using SQLite3 for large storage.
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19:00 Guy09 Hi guys I'm back :)
19:00 Krock Lowest found: "Highest possible file size" in the FAT16 format: 2GiB
19:00 Guy09 hold on let me try something...
19:00 Guy09 =)
19:00 Krock no
19:00 Krock you don't
19:00 Krock stop
19:01 Guy09 oh don't work :3
19:02 Guy09 Err...
19:02 Guy09 Wat the
19:02 Calinou Krock, FAT32 is 4GB
19:02 Calinou NTFS, ext2/3/4, btrfs… are all huge
19:02 Krock Größe einer Datei       2 GiB / 4 GiB
19:02 Calinou no one really uses FAT16 today, but some people still use FAT32 (most notably external HDDs and USB drives, for compatibility)
19:02 Guy09 Why is everyone so QUIET
19:02 Krock both.
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19:02 Calinou this channel is generally quite active
19:03 EvergreenTree Guy09: how is this channel quiet?
19:03 Krock Guy09, NEED SOME NOISE? THERE YOU GO!!
19:03 EvergreenTree it's very active atm
19:03 kaeza Guy09, wrong network
19:03 PenguinDad I'M NOT QUIET ANYMORE!!1!
19:03 Guy09 It's just that no one talkin :3
19:03 * sfan5 meows at Guy09
19:04 kaeza PARTAY!
19:04 LemonLake WEOOOWEOEWO
19:04 * Guy09 gives sfan5 milk
19:04 * sfan5 noms the milk
19:04 PenguinDad GOOD IDEA kaeza!
19:04 * Guy09 listens to Sexy and I know it by LMFAO
19:05 * Guy09 starts singin to it
19:05 Guy09 When i walk on bye girls be having like amplifi
19:06 markveidemanis Migrating locally now
19:06 markveidemanis so much faster
19:06 markveidemanis Access violation
19:06 Guy09 i walk to to beat walking on the street and know the freak
19:06 Calinou much faster access violations
19:06 LemonLake Guy09
19:07 LemonLake Wrong lyrics
19:07 Guy09 yeah girl look at that body
19:07 markveidemanis in trans_func
19:07 LemonLake "When I walk on by, girls be looking like damn he fly"
19:07 Guy09 * ahh *
19:07 * PenguinDad listens to 20 Percent Cooler by Ken Ashcorp and doesn't start singing it
19:07 LemonLake "I pimp to the beat, walking on the street in my new lafreak, yeah"
19:07 Guy09 girl look at that..
19:07 * LemonLake listens to Absolute Territory by Ken Ashcorp and sings to it really loud
19:07 * Guy09 *s mum shouts SHUT UP
19:08 LemonLake PenguinDad: You're a kashcorp fan too?
19:08 Guy09 This is how i roll
19:09 PenguinDad Savant! \o/
19:10 PenguinDad LemonLake: I actually found that song on youtube a few minutes ago
19:10 LemonLake 20 Percent Cooler is aight
19:10 LemonLake I prefer his other songs though
19:10 LemonLake 20% cooler is too electro for ken
19:10 * Guy09 runs to a girls school and takes his top and trousers off and then shouts while all the girls r in there I'M SEXY AND I KNOW IT!!!
19:11 * LemonLake thinks Guy09 is slightly weird
19:11 * PenguinDad gives Guy09 his pills
19:11 Calinou please don't sing in here
19:12 Calinou especially sexist stuff
19:12 LemonLake sexIST?
19:12 Calinou or sing “oppa Minetest style”, like suggested by Jordach
19:12 LemonLake It's not discriminating based on gender
19:12 Guy09 Yeah u can tell everybody yeah u can tell everybodyyy go ahead and tell everybody I'm a man I'm a man I'm a maan
19:12 Jordach wait WUT
19:12 Krock OPPA MINEGAM TEST STAYLE
19:12 Guy09 Lol
19:12 Calinou I'll say “degrading” then, LemonLake
19:13 LemonLake that works
19:13 LemonLake I need to make textures...
19:13 LemonLake but i cbf to go back to windows
19:13 LemonLake Who suggested Petra yesterday?
19:14 Calinou GIMP does textures well for me
19:14 LemonLake I can't stand gimp imo
19:14 Calinou or try Aseprite (I've never used it)
19:14 LemonLake it's unusable
19:14 Calinou the health bar textures added in Carbone were made with GIMP, as well as a few other ones ;)
19:14 Calinou (brick, burned clay…)
19:14 LemonLake Pinta
19:14 LemonLake not petra
19:14 Calinou not me
19:14 Calinou I've never used Pinta/Krita
19:14 * Guy09 throws penguin dad's pills in the bin sets them on fire throws then at penguins house then says to him i don't then!
19:14 Calinou I do use Inkscape, but not for Minetest textures :p
19:14 realtinymonster :(
19:15 realtinymonster I can't find a decent python IRCd
19:15 LemonLake Why do you need one?
19:15 Guy09 XD
19:15 Calinou for bots, of course
19:15 Calinou they're… funny!
19:15 LemonLake fyi bots aren't allowed here
19:15 realtinymonster LemonLake: no shit
19:15 Calinou LemonLake, if allowed only
19:15 Calinou we already have MinetestBot which is pretty functional
19:16 Guy09 Woah language realtiny
19:16 Amaz And loggingbot_
19:16 LemonLake Guy09
19:16 LemonLake This is a mature channel, we can use what language we want
19:16 Amaz And ShadowBot
19:16 PenguinDad And ChanServ
19:16 realtinymonster and whiskers75's bot
19:16 Amaz And ChanServ is really a bot.
19:16 LemonLake ChanServ is part of Freenode
19:16 Amaz Ninja'd!
19:17 LemonLake (/msg chanserv register #minetest)
19:17 Amaz But it is a bot...
19:17 LemonLake then get the guard or whatever it is
19:17 LemonLake It is indeed a bot. But not one we're in control of.
19:17 LemonLake Pinta looks quite nice
19:17 Amaz Yep.
19:18 LemonLake It feels like paint.net
19:18 LemonLake minus the cursors
19:19 Guy09 ~seen VanessaE
19:19 ShadowBot Guy09: I saw VanessaE in #minetest 7 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago saying "night all"
19:20 LemonLake Guy09: VanessaE is online right now
19:20 LemonLake But inactive
19:20 Jordach SHE ISN'T
19:20 WindHero joined #minetest
19:20 Guy09 No she not
19:20 Krock she is
19:20 LemonLake Look in the users list.
19:20 Jordach LemonLake, NO
19:20 LemonLake She's sleeping.
19:20 Krock online but inactive
19:20 Guy09 lol
19:20 LemonLake Jordach, look at the users list.
19:20 Guy09 sleepin
19:21 Jordach she might APPEAR HERE but actually ISNT
19:21 LemonLake What's wrong with sleeping?
19:21 Guy09 Nothin
19:21 Krock Jordach, yes. that we mean by "online but inactive"
19:21 markveidemanis I'l migrate my first ever copy
19:21 Calinou /whois VanessaE VanessaE
19:21 Calinou shows idle time
19:22 markveidemanis Only n00b huts anyway
19:22 Calinou (time since last public or private message)
19:22 Calinou (notices are ignored in idle time)
19:22 Krock >/whois VanessaE VanessaE
19:22 Krock oops
19:22 Calinou alias in HexChat: //wii
19:22 Calinou oops, /wii
19:22 markveidemanis leveldb takes less space?
19:22 Calinou not sure, markveidemanis
19:22 Calinou maybe it could take more ;)
19:22 Krock markveidemanis, 0.01% less
19:22 * Guy09 is tired
19:23 * Calinou buys Guy09 a tire
19:23 Krock It's actually a bit smaller
19:23 Calinou if you share your worlds: compress them well :p
19:23 Guy09 0.o tire
19:23 Krock 7zip for the win!
19:23 Guy09 rolle rolle rolle rolle
19:25 * Guy09 sings don't u worry child by Swedish house mafia in his head
19:25 * LemonLake doesn't care and thinks that the rest of us also does not need to know that
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19:26 Guy09 there was a time when I looked into my fathers side
19:26 Guy09 in a happy home i ???
19:26 LemonLake umm
19:26 LemonLake what
19:26 Guy09 hi craigy
19:26 Guy09 lemon its the lyrics
19:27 CraigyDavi_ Finally! Electricity is back!
19:27 CraigyDavi_ Hi Guy09
19:27 Calinou wb CraigyDavi_ :)
19:27 LemonLake Guy09: Don't sing in here
19:27 Guy09 Wat u mean there been blackout at ur house
19:27 CraigyDavi There was a power cut, yes
19:27 LemonLake Guy09: Obviously?
19:28 Guy09 oh it's back :p
19:28 Calinou CraigyDavi, I don't remember if you use Carbone or not, but now it got health bars above players
19:28 Guy09 He left cali
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19:28 Krock CraigyDavi, an atomic reactor blew up?
19:28 Guy09 Awwww lemon i like singin. :(
19:29 CraigyDavi Yep I have used Carbone, cool I'll update it :)
19:29 LemonLake <Calinou> please don't sing in here
19:29 LemonLake It was said before.
19:29 LemonLake It is not necessary.
19:29 Calinou it's annoying, LemonLake, so do it in PM or in another channel
19:29 Calinou to not annoy people here :)
19:29 CraigyDavi Krock, No idea - maybe it was cause by me, I was downloading a massive amount of stuff
19:29 LemonLake Calinou: Why are you quoting me?
19:29 CraigyDavi But I hope not :P
19:29 LemonLake s/quoting/highlighting
19:29 Calinou I'm talking to you
19:30 LemonLake I was talking to Guy09
19:30 Krock LemonLake! listen to him!
19:30 LemonLake Not myself?
19:30 LemonLake I was also not singing
19:30 LemonLake Either you're being an asshole or are just confused?
19:30 Krock life is life nanan nanananan LIFE IS LIFE naananANANAN
19:30 * Guy09 starts playin Sid meiers civalitation revalutions
19:31 LemonLake Guy09, stop please, it's annoying
19:31 Guy09 sorry for bad spellin
19:31 Krock LemonLake, life is life!nananannan
19:31 Guy09 lemon ur annoying :p
19:31 Krock >:D
19:31 LemonLake What did I do, Guy09?
19:31 CraigyDavi can't even spell "spelling" :)
19:31 Guy09 U know
19:31 Guy09 lol
19:31 LemonLake No, I don't. I have brain damage.
19:32 LemonLake So please tell me.
19:32 LemonLake What have I done?
19:32 Guy09 Really? 0.o
19:32 Krock can't spll speling th word "th spellin"
19:32 LemonLake Yes.
19:33 Guy09 Oh right we r having fun and u r being misarable
19:33 Guy09 :p
19:33 LemonLake Calinou also finds it annoying.
19:33 Krock *misErable
19:34 LemonLake Guy09: I am miserable. I am depressed. But there's nothing you can do about it so stay out of my business.
19:34 Guy09 Guys i recommend watching on YouTube kids react to old computers by TheFineBros
19:34 Guy09 lemon sorry truce?
19:34 LemonLake Truce?
19:34 LemonLake What the fuck is this, a war?
19:34 zsoltisa1esome lol
19:34 Guy09 Maybe 0.o
19:35 Krock Life is life nana nanana
19:35 LemonLake Look, you're pissing me off like crazy so I'm just gonna mute you. Cya.
19:35 Guy09 Noooo
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19:36 Guy09 Right wat he said is now vice versa
19:36 LemonLake oops, added mailto: to the front of that
19:36 Guy09 Done
19:36 LemonLake Does anyone know how to get an Intuos working on linux?
19:36 LemonLake I've googled but I can't get anything
19:36 Guy09 Quiet again now
19:36 Guy09 :(
19:37 LemonLake Or any tablet for that matter
19:37 Krock Guy09, check out my amazing lua mapgen with caves! and biomes! wow!
19:37 LemonLake Krock, are the plantlike leaves part of the mapgen, or just your clien?
19:38 Guy09 Wat u mean server?
19:38 Krock LemonLake, mapgen. disable it self if ya don't liek
19:38 LemonLake Okay
19:38 LemonLake They look really strange, that's all
19:38 Krock Guy09, I mean a mod. not a server
19:39 Guy09 No i mean is the map gens server?
19:40 Krock there are servers which run with lua mapgens but not much - mine isn't enough popular to be used
19:40 Guy09 Right
19:40 Guy09 i get u
19:40 Krock most use v6 because it's stable and..popular
19:40 Guy09 Cool
19:40 Krock it's faster anyway
19:41 Guy09 true i tryed it myself
19:42 Guy09 but it only got me on... No one else sadly :(
19:43 Krock you can't host a home server without router configuration changes
19:44 Calinou usually
19:44 Guy09 Ahh that my fault then :3
19:44 Calinou (which is, almost always)
19:44 Calinou forward port 30000 (to your PC's internal IP) in your router's configuration interface
19:44 Krock why 30000?
19:44 Guy09 Bye guys I'm going to bed
19:45 Krock just a port between 1 and 16^3
19:45 Krock good bed
19:45 * Guy09 yawns
19:45 LemonLake uname -v
19:45 LemonLake dafuq
19:45 LemonLake no xchat
19:45 Calinou 16², you mean
19:45 Calinou night Guy09
19:45 Calinou what's the use of uname -v? doesn't show much relevant info
19:45 LemonLake shows kernel version
19:45 ShadowNinja Calinou: Nope, 2^16
19:45 Krock Calinou, not ^2, that's 256.
19:45 CraigyDavi !up craigd.24tails.com
19:45 MinetestBot craigd.24tails.com:30000 seems to be down
19:46 CraigyDavi Hmm
19:46 Krock 2^16 == 16^3
19:46 Krock = /me was right, too.
19:46 PenguinDad Krock: that's wrong
19:46 PenguinDad !c 2**16
19:46 MinetestBot 65536
19:46 PenguinDad !c 16**3
19:46 MinetestBot 4096
19:46 Krock damn
19:46 Krock ^4
19:47 zsoltisa1esome .!c 3**3**3
19:47 LemonLake 2^16
19:47 zsoltisa1esome :P
19:47 Krock 16^4 == 2^16
19:47 LemonLake !c 16**4
19:47 MinetestBot 65536
19:47 LemonLake mhmm
19:48 Krock 16^4 == 2^16 == 8^6
19:48 Krock wut no
19:48 Krock *^5
19:48 Calinou ShadowNinja, right
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19:51 LemonLake Error: could not load module /lib/modules3.11.0-12-generic/kern​el/drivers/input/tablet/wacom.ko: No such file or directory
19:51 LemonLake i was sooo cloose :(
19:51 LemonLake yesss i think i did it
19:52 LemonLake BITCH I GOT TABLET SUPPORT NOW
19:52 LemonLake SUCK IT
19:52 * Calinou doesn't use graphic tablet
19:53 CraigyDavi !up craigd.24tails.com
19:53 MinetestBot craigd.24tails.com:30000 is up (235ms)
19:53 CraigyDavi :)
19:57 PenguinDad TIL lua mapgens won't work in freeminer
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20:04 * Calinou doesn't use Freeminer since long time ago
20:04 Amaz ^same
20:04 Krock ^same same
20:07 kaeza same game
20:07 markveidemanis ~up craigd.24tails.com
20:07 ShadowBot markveidemanis: craigd.24tails.com port 30000 is down
20:08 kaeza freeminer is too choppy on my PC
20:09 Calinou is it really much slower?
20:09 Calinou did you try VBOs?
20:10 kaeza don't remember... it was long ago too
20:11 kaeza but dunno... something about freeminer just doesn't make me feel at ease
20:14 Calinou managed by xyz? :p
20:14 Exio4 what TP and blocks are there? https://i.imgur.com/xNwNY.jpg
20:14 Calinou absolutely no idea :(
20:15 Krock some hdx textures possibly
20:15 Exio4 yeah yeah :P
20:16 kaeza Calinou, :P
20:16 CraigyDavi Exio4, I think that's HDX and homedecor
20:16 Exio4 rly?
20:16 Krock ^yup
20:17 kaeza is that HDX?
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20:17 Krock have we got other high resolution TP?
20:17 kaeza doesn't look like it
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20:18 LemonLake ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
20:18 LemonLake I couldn't save at the time because I was copying large amounts of files so I just carried on editing the texture
20:18 kaeza dat language
20:18 LemonLake then Pinta just closes without warning
20:18 Krock linux?
20:18 CraigyDavi Theres a 1000x texture pack on the forums somewhere I think
20:18 Calinou <Krock> some hdx textures possibly
20:18 Calinou no, just no
20:18 Calinou <CraigyDavi> Exio4, I think that's HDX and homedecor
20:19 Calinou did you see it's… Minecraft?
20:19 Calinou 9 items in hotbar, rendering
20:19 Krock Calinou, I never used hdx, so I can't know
20:19 CraigyDavi I didn't realise, never played minecraft
20:19 kaeza the paintings looked odd
20:19 Krock ^
20:19 kaeza :P
20:19 Krock <CraigyDavi>I didn't realise, never played minecraft
20:19 Krock ^
20:19 PenguinDad Calinou: you can set the hotbar size
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20:20 LemonLake hud_set_hotbar_itemcount(count) Set number of items in builtin hotbar
20:20 Krock let's use 10 inventory slots!
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20:20 Exio4 doesn't look like MC tbh
20:20 kaeza Krock, +1
20:20 LemonLake Count must be between 1 and 23
20:20 Krock from 1 to 0 (1234567890)all numbers used
20:21 kaeza Krock, actually, let's use all the 32 slots...oh :(
20:21 kaeza right
20:21 zsoltisa1esome lol
20:21 Amaz ^ Yes.
20:21 Krock lol
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20:21 zsoltisa1esome ^ No.
20:21 zsoltisa1esome lol
20:21 Krock ^yes
20:21 zsoltisa1esome ^ no
20:21 kaeza fun fact: the first minetest version allowed selecting any block with the mouse wheel :P
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20:22 kaeza (because there were like 9 blocks in total :P)
20:22 zsoltisa1esome kaeza: it still does! *gasp*
20:22 Krock kaeza, still possible... if you set inv. size to 8 ;P
20:22 Exio4 Calinou: is it rly minecraft?
20:22 kaeza Krock, what about items 9-32 ?
20:22 Krock wo knows...
20:22 Exio4 i'm still not sure
20:23 Krock kaeza, would need at least 2 numbers
20:23 Krock numbers/keys
20:23 kaeza C-m select-item 9
20:23 Exio4 lol'd
20:23 Krock huh
20:24 kaeza C-i*
20:24 Krock still
20:24 Krock huh
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20:24 kaeza or whatever
20:25 * kaeza needs coffee
20:25 * Krock hands kaeza a pot of coffee
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20:25 CraigyDavi Good news server owners: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1346
20:26 Exio4 oh yeah, it is MC, w/o TP it is http://i.imgur.com/9wh9k.png
20:26 Krock 20MB? I don't care. 20% faster? yes I care
20:27 CraigyDavi No more deleting player files :D
20:27 Exio4 :<
20:27 Krock CraigyDavi, look at line 398
20:27 Exio4 thought it was MT
20:28 CraigyDavi Hmm?
20:28 Exio4 anyway
20:28 kaeza oh so those stereos were actually dispensers? :|
20:28 Krock "+      std::string players_path = m_path_world + DIR_DELIM "players";" is there a + missing?!
20:29 kaeza not dispensers either, that other thing :|
20:29 zsoltisa1esome droppers?
20:29 kaeza ^
20:29 zsoltisa1esome jukeboxes?
20:29 zsoltisa1esome noteblocks?
20:29 zsoltisa1esome ah ok
20:30 CraigyDavi Not sure
20:36 Calinou <Exio4> Calinou: is it rly minecraft?
20:36 Calinou yes
20:36 Calinou <kaeza> (because there were like 9 blocks in total :P)
20:36 Calinou I should look into adding a larger hotbar to Carbone
20:36 Calinou would need inventory refactoring to work well :/
20:37 kaeza ?
20:38 kaeza what do you mean?
20:39 Calinou kaeza, if hotbar has more slots, then the inventory should be wider
20:39 Calinou (and have less rows)
20:39 Calinou eg. 12 × 3 instead of 8 × 4
20:40 kaeza ah
20:40 kaeza could be a good idea
20:41 Krock 4 x 1 slots for survival +++
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20:41 kaeza I usually find that 8 slots are just not enough :/
20:41 kaeza -usually
20:42 zsoltisa1esome usually 9 isn't enought either
20:42 zsoltisa1esome 10 slots FTW
20:46 Calinou new boat and hover textures in Carbone
20:46 Calinou I wanted 12, kaeza
20:46 Calinou would be nicer if you could customize hotbar keys
20:47 Calinou eg. use 0, ) and = on AZERTY
20:47 Calinou for the last slots
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20:50 kaeza I generally only use numbers 1-5 and select others with the mouse
20:51 kaeza 1 for sword, 2 for pick, 3 for axe/shovel, 4 for cobble, 5 for torches
20:51 Krock [pick][torch][if_exists(group:explosive)][cobble]
20:52 * kaeza puts a mese nuke from slot #6 into Krock's head
20:52 kaeza s/into/on :|
20:52 Calinou I never use numbers because they don't work on AZERTY and I play with mouse wheel anyway
20:52 Krock nah, there's enough space inside
20:53 Calinou like the “clowns of the FFA made in Sauerbraten”
20:53 Krock Sauerbraten - it bräts sauer!
20:54 Calinou strange, I had two singleplayer instances of Minetest
20:54 Calinou world is not corrupted apparently
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20:57 nman3600 hi
20:57 Calinou zsoltisa1esome, link to your GitHub does not work (404)
20:57 Calinou https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24
20:58 zsoltisa1esome which?
20:59 CraigyDavi Calinou, https://github.com/realtinymonster
21:01 Calinou zsoltisa1esome, on forum
21:01 Calinou link to your GitHub is outdated
21:01 zsoltisa1esome catninja: where?
21:01 zsoltisa1esome lol
21:01 LemonLake nman3600: http://i.imgur.com/UGKpt5G.png
21:01 zsoltisa1esome Calinou: ^^
21:02 nman3600 LemonLake nice
21:02 zsoltisa1esome oh
21:02 zsoltisa1esome fixing...
21:02 Calinou zsoltisa1esome, on forum settings
21:02 zsoltisa1esome fixed
21:02 Calinou LemonLake, nice, but textures should be 16 × 16
21:03 Calinou (generally)
21:03 Calinou to be consistent with the defaults
21:03 LemonLake Calinou
21:03 LemonLake All of my textures are 32x32 because I really like detail
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21:03 LemonLake There are only about 8 nodes and 10 items in the entire game so it's no big deal
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21:11 Calinou ah
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21:12 catninja zsoltisa1esome: sweden :P
21:12 catninja haha
21:12 zsoltisa1esome lol
21:12 zsoltisa1esome sorry
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21:16 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/jyuH-1Wnipc9
21:16 Calinou health bars
21:16 LemonLake Looks quite nice.
21:18 Calinou I may implement Lua health/bubble bars later, to colour them similarly
21:18 Calinou (however, they will probably lose client-side prediction)
21:18 Calinou lag will be more feel-able :(
21:19 sapier for recent clients health bars are lue side anyway
21:20 Calinou yeah, but I want to customize them
21:20 Calinou (add background, different colours based on health maybe)
21:20 Calinou background is something quite important to me :P
21:20 sapier doesn't change the speed
21:20 Calinou what about prediction?
21:20 Calinou if I lag a lot, will the health bar change immediatly on client or not?
21:20 Calinou (like the older ones did)
21:20 Calinou (no idea about current ones, I did not test multiplayer)
21:23 sapier http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downlo​ads/Minetest-release_20140530.apk added a gui scaling setting to gui for those of you having devices providing strange dpi values
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21:59 kaeza https://cdn.mediacru.sh/sXHH_ldHrnNu.jpg
21:59 LemonLake Nice hud :D
22:00 LemonLake I have to be careful if I update to the new version to not overwrite all my modified code
22:01 * kaeza loves how ^combine is basically a free-form canvas
22:01 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9240700
22:01 LemonLake Kaeza, did you somehow make the wielditem more deep?
22:01 markveidemanis Lucky player
22:01 kaeza the hud is a single texture, as far as the client is concerned :P
22:02 LemonLake markveidemanis: nman came to me and said how he's really rich in your server because of the diamond cave lol
22:02 kaeza I removed the outlines from the hand
22:02 kaeza other than that, nothing
22:02 LemonLake Would people care if I didn't actualy update in ace of picks?
22:02 LemonLake update firearms in ace of picks
22:02 Jordach LemonLake, nobody cares about internal updates
22:03 Jordach as long as it plays the same
22:03 LemonLake aight
22:19 kaeza okay, off to bed
22:19 kaeza night
22:21 Jordach seriously?!
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22:30 realtinymonster :(
22:30 realtinymonster Megaf: you there?
22:31 realtinymonster LemonLake: Heyo!
22:32 realtinymonster ok den
22:34 LemonLake realtinymonster: Heyo!
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22:36 LemonLake What is default_cloud.png?
22:36 LemonLake Is it the texture for the clouds or sometin?
22:37 realtinymonster used to be
22:37 realtinymonster its no longer used
22:37 realtinymonster afaik
22:37 LemonLake May as well delete it den
22:37 realtinymonster yeah
22:37 Jordach that texture doesn't even exist in BFD
22:37 realtinymonster woot!
22:50 LemonLake 76 textures and going down :D
22:50 realtinymonster LemonLake: what are you doing?
22:50 LemonLake Where be treeprop used?
22:50 realtinymonster 0.3.x
22:50 realtinymonster :P
22:50 LemonLake Making ace of picks smaller in textures since I'm only gonna have a few nodes
22:50 LemonLake + I want to have 32x32 textures without it being a burden on resources and stuff
22:50 realtinymonster yeah
22:51 realtinymonster LemonLake: safe to remove
22:51 realtinymonster its a legacy thing
22:51 LemonLake Cool thanks
22:51 LemonLake player and player_back I'm assuming I can remove now?
22:52 realtinymonster yeah, unless you want 2dplayers :P
22:52 LemonLake Of course not :P
22:53 realtinymonster HMM
22:54 LemonLake 69 textuers, 1.6MB
22:54 realtinymonster I wonder if I should add firearms into Moontest
22:55 realtinymonster Waht do you think LemonLake
22:55 LemonLake You could add firearms but make them non-guns
22:55 LemonLake maybe stuff like harpoons, crossbows?
22:56 realtinymonster yeah
22:56 realtinymonster or maybe space-themed guns?
22:56 realtinymonster :P
22:56 LemonLake like laser guns and stuff?
22:56 LemonLake blasters, etc
22:56 Jordach pewpewpew
22:57 LemonLake ^
22:57 realtinymonster yep
22:57 LemonLake 65 textures, still 1.6mb
22:57 realtinymonster possible?
22:57 LemonLake sure it is
22:57 realtinymonster yeah!
22:57 realtinymonster I have to talk it over with the guys, but I might add it!
23:03 LemonLake Do statbars not align? D:
23:03 LemonLake default_cloud IS used
23:04 realtinymonster wut
23:04 LemonLake It errored when I removed it
23:04 realtinymonster my what?
23:04 realtinymonster *by
23:04 LemonLake clouds?
23:04 realtinymonster grep for default_cloud.png
23:19 LemonLake realtinymonster: http://imgur.com/7jGFFiy
23:20 LemonLake I got the previous fist texture, scaled it up double, detailed it and shaded it
23:20 LemonLake how does it look?
23:20 realtinymonster LemonLake: mediacru.sh?
23:20 LemonLake what's wrong with imgur?
23:21 realtinymonster imgur is sad
23:21 realtinymonster ads
23:21 realtinymonster and lack of privacy
23:21 LemonLake I have an auto-uploader to imgur doe >.<
23:22 Jordach problem!
23:22 Jordach BIG PROBLEM
23:22 LemonLake I don't like mediacru.sh because of the long url, the lack of ctrl + v posting, use of iframes and clutteredness
23:22 Jordach LemonLake, MediaCrush has ctrl + v pastiong
23:22 realtinymonster LemonLake: there Is ctrl + v postig
23:22 LemonLake That's new but all of the other things still
23:23 realtinymonster LemonLake: well, imgur is blocked on here :P
23:23 LemonLake I'll use dropbox then
23:23 realtinymonster blocked
23:23 LemonLake ..why?
23:23 realtinymonster protective father
23:24 LemonLake No accept?
23:25 realtinymonster ??
23:25 LemonLake I sent you a file in IRC.
23:27 SylvieLorxu LemonLake: IRC file transfer is really unreliable because it needs special router settings
23:28 LemonLake I'm halfway through getting a screenshot uploader
23:28 LemonLake Apparently imgur is blocked, I hate mediacrush so I'm getting shutter.
23:29 SylvieLorxu I personally use img.bi
23:29 LemonLake Are you on Linux?
23:29 SylvieLorxu Yes
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23:29 LemonLake Aight
23:29 LemonLake Well I'm getting shutter for auto-upload anyway
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23:30 SylvieLorxu https://childrenofur.github.io/coUclient/game.html <- Does this load properly for anyone, by any chance? I'm wondering if it's just me or if the Children of Ur client is really broken
23:31 LemonLake dafuq is this
23:32 LemonLake Well it worked.
23:33 VanessaE works for me,.
23:33 LemonLake What do you guys think of this? http://i.imgur.com/7jGFFiy.png
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23:34 LemonLake I got the one from the previous version of AoP but made it bigger, more detailed and shaded
23:35 SylvieLorxu Aww...
23:35 LemonLake ?
23:35 SylvieLorxu I don't like not getting it to run, heh...
23:36 LemonLake no opinions?
23:37 VanessaE it's okay LemonLake
23:37 VanessaE not enough contrast
23:37 VanessaE the form is good though
23:37 LemonLake contrast?
23:37 VanessaE *nod*
23:37 LemonLake hmm ok
23:37 VanessaE colors aren't sharp/bright/dark enough
23:38 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/J0pjRJ5.png
23:41 LemonLake wbn?
23:41 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Fix over-poping and only push the core once 5bd2aea663 2014-05-30T19:38:11-04:00 http://git.io/6lirhw
23:41 LemonLake popping*
23:42 realtinymonster *pooping
23:42 LemonLake so immateure
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23:43 realtinymonster LemonLake: great minds think alike
23:43 realtinymonster :D
23:44 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/pu7EkDhWNGnV
23:44 LemonLake what do you think?
23:48 VanessaE LemonLake: better, but increase the contrast more, and reduce the saturation a little
23:49 realtinymonster VanessaE: be the judge: zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack/wood.png
23:49 LemonLake too blurry
23:49 VanessaE realtinymonster: nope.avi
23:50 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/7ys0fi-w-44p
23:50 VanessaE realtinymonster: you blurred the default wood and did a FIlters -> Map -> Make Seamless.
23:51 VanessaE LemonLake: lower the brightness, still needs more contrast
23:52 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/nZO6sIdKDMwW
23:52 LemonLake ?
23:52 VanessaE hm..
23:52 realtinymonster VanessaE: nope, but I did do make seamless :P
23:52 VanessaE mind if I have a go at it?
23:53 LemonLake VanessaE: Is that good?
23:54 VanessaE LemonLake: lemme see if I can tweak it a bit.
23:54 LemonLake okay, I'll give you an xcf
23:55 LemonLake https://dl.dropboxusercontent​.com/u/21596039/wieldhand.xcf
23:55 VanessaE no need, I already extracted the original from the screenshot :D
23:56 LemonLake Screenshotter has color inaccuracies
23:56 * VanessaE grabs the xcf anyway
23:56 LemonLake Just get the xcf please
23:56 VanessaE ok
23:58 realtinymonster Heh, 'Classhole'
23:58 realtinymonster :P
23:58 realtinymonster XKCD FTW
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23:59 realtinymonster BrandonReese: Woot!

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