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00:55 SirDigby seen any good movies lately?
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05:18 Eater4 !Up freenode.inchra.net
05:19 Eater4 !up freenode.inchra.net
05:19 MinetestBot freenode.inchra.net:30000 seems to be down
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05:19 Eater4 ShadowNinja: what happend?
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05:28 ShadowNinja ~op
05:28 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
05:28 ShadowNinja Ugh.
05:29 Eater4 Hm?
05:29 ShadowNinja !op
05:29 ShadowNinja Right...
05:29 ShadowNinja What was that password...
05:29 Eater4 XD
05:30 ShadowNinja Eater4: 1. The up command only checks for Minetest servers. 2. 'freenode' is not a InchraNet server or service.
05:30 Eater4 Why don't you have your sled opped in your own bot :)
05:31 Eater4 Self*
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05:33 ShadowNinja Eater4: It recognizes me by my cloak, which isn't on right now.  And I think I've forgotten my password.
05:33 Eater4 Oh ok
05:33 ShadowNinja ~op
05:33 ShadowNinja Got it.  :-)
05:34 Eater4 :)
05:35 Eater4 Woh
05:35 Eater4 Chanserv is where ik not being helpful :)
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05:38 Eater4 Did a server get disconnected again
05:38 Eater4 ?
05:39 ShadowNinja On freenode?  Yes.  Possibly more than one.
05:39 Eater4 ShadowNinja: ^^
05:40 Eater4 Hmm
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05:42 Eater4 You don't have any control over those servers right?
05:43 ShadowNinja No, I don't.  Only some members of freenode staff do.
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05:51 niften hello
05:52 niften I just need to say that prestotron might have been logging in with my username, explains all immaturity that has come from me
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05:53 niften since I have not been active on this irc since a few weeks ago
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06:01 ShadowNinja niften: Yes, he has.  I haven't verified that you're a separate entity yet though.  And it would be better is you didn't mention the matter further.
06:01 niften when was I last on, @ShadowNinja ?
06:02 niften I realise I was on a few days ago
06:02 niften but before that no
06:09 ShadowNinja ~seenany niften
06:09 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I saw niften in #minetest 7 minutes and 34 seconds ago saying "but before that no"
06:09 ShadowNinja ~seenany Niften
06:09 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I saw Niften in #minetest 2 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes, and 59 seconds ago parting (None)
06:10 niften ~seenany prestotron
06:10 ShadowBot niften: I haven't seen prestotron in #minetest.
06:10 niften ~seenany Prestotron
06:10 ShadowBot niften: I haven't seen Prestotron in #minetest.
06:10 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I'll need a more complex manual SQL query, which I don't want to formulate now.
06:11 niften eh
06:11 niften Have you heard about Prestotron?
06:11 ShadowNinja niften: I haven't seen him around, but one of the nicks he used was Prestotron55
06:12 niften ~seenany Prestotron55
06:12 ShadowBot niften: I haven't seen Prestotron55 in #minetest.
06:12 niften ~seenany prestotron55
06:12 ShadowBot niften: I saw prestotron55 in #minetest 12 weeks, 2 days, 9 hours, 21 minutes, and 53 seconds ago quiting (Client Quit)
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06:13 niften I was reading through a few Skype logs and he was telling me about how coding is like cmd and that I should ask PilzAdam because he said it was true :l
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07:01 Leoneof why i'm here?
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07:06 Krock why am I here?
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07:28 Mikerhinos hi
07:29 Krock ][-][ 3110
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07:33 Mikerhinos again server problems ?
07:34 Krock seems to
07:34 Krock *so
07:34 PenguinDad Krock: don't use serif 1337
07:34 Krock PenguinDad, Y n0t?
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07:35 PenguinDad because |-| is much smaller than ][-][
07:35 Leoneof O_o
07:35 Krock but ][-][ looks bolder
07:36 PenguinDad o_O|O_o
07:36 Krock Like the first letter of a roman, the big one, then small text follows
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08:10 reactor I've found a bug in stairs.
08:10 reactor People can dig stone and sandstone staird by hand!
08:10 reactor Not sure about slabs
08:11 PenguinDad Can't you dig sandstone by hand anyways?
08:11 reactor Rather, wait a sec... they can dig sandstone, too.
08:11 reactor But not textured sandstone.
08:11 reactor Tha's inconsistent.
08:13 Calinou textured sandstone? you mean desert stone?
08:14 reactor I don't remember the name, but it's a kind of sandstone.
08:14 reactor Desert stone is different.
08:14 PenguinDad reactor: do you mean sandstone bricks?
08:14 reactor yes
08:14 reactor I wonder, has anyone here tried digging stone by hand IRL?
08:17 Calinou no.
08:20 Krock http://i.imgur.com/6FinHgd.gif [/offtopic]
08:21 reactor Krock: :D
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08:37 Mikerhinos one day I tried to dig stone by hand IRL, and I almost broke it.
08:37 Mikerhinos (my hand, not the stone)
08:38 * Krock never had anything broken
08:39 Mikerhinos broke my 2 legs 2 years ago :s
08:39 Mikerhinos felt from a roof, don't do it, it hurts
08:39 Calinou indeed, don't fall from a roof
08:41 Mikerhinos don't know english equivalent, but I had "multiples fractures pilon-tibiales longitudinales bilatérales" lol
08:41 Krock "multiple fractures bilateral tibial longitudinal pestle"
08:42 Mikerhinos really ? not that different lol
08:43 reactor "Take a child. Slip into water carefully."
08:47 * Calinou is playing chess
08:47 Calinou le opponent resigns
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09:13 PenguinDad !up ks4006351.ip-192-99-11.net 30005
09:13 MinetestBot ks4006351.ip-192-99-11.net:30005 seems to be down
09:15 PenguinDad ^ Vanessa_E
09:17 Vanessa_E did you mean digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 maybe?
09:17 Vanessa_E and besides, nightly backups are run at 5:00am
09:17 Vanessa_E !up digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005
09:17 MinetestBot Vanessa_E: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
09:17 Vanessa_E !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005
09:17 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 seems to be down
09:18 Vanessa_E hm
09:18 Vanessa_E wonder why that one didn't resume
09:18 * Vanessa_E looks
09:18 PenguinDad not another netsplit D:
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09:21 PenguinDad seeing the netsplit is no problem for me
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10:33 VanessaE_ I hate computers.
10:35 crazyR why?
10:35 reactor ?
10:35 VanessaE_ because when they act stupid, they are often so G*d damned brain dead that you can't do jack shit with them
10:36 VanessaE_ because programmers suck
10:36 reactor What OS?
10:36 VanessaE_ does it matter?
10:36 VanessaE_ (linux in this case)
10:36 crazyR lol i was waiting for the "switch to linux" comment
10:38 VanessaE_ oh well, it's working properly now.
10:38 * VanessaE_ wanders off to bed,.
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10:51 Taoki Hi, I have a question about formspecs. Is it possible to make a list / table of multiple elements located one next to another? Such as "label", "button", etc
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11:08 Krock first server with blockmen's build and leveldb as backend is up and running :D
11:10 Taoki Anyone got any simple examples of how I can make a "label" / "button" / "image" update when I click a given element in a textlist ?
11:11 Taoki The main menu mods menu is too complex to look at now >.<
11:11 Taoki I have a formspec with a text list, and want an image and text to update when clicking something in that list
11:12 Krock Taoki, does the textlist even send something?
11:12 Taoki Krock: Don't know, working with textlists for the first time. How do I know that and how do I use what it sends?
11:13 Krock else, try "minetest.register_on_player_r​eceive_fields(function(sender, formname, fields)"
11:13 Taoki Krock: But how do I use this to update what exists in the currently open formspec?
11:14 Krock meta:set_string("formspec", "new formpec..."
11:14 Taoki Erm... the formspec isn't sent by a node
11:14 Taoki It's more like the main menu, you open it with a command / key
11:14 Krock or send a new formspec with minetest.show_formspec(player_name, formpec)
11:14 Taoki That makes more sense. I assume that's how the main menu updates the mod list too?
11:15 Krock then send it there... or out of the already existing formspec with the given codes avobe
11:15 Krock *above
11:15 Krock I don't know how the main menu does that, just try
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11:20 Krock hm the MT forums were down
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11:33 Krock2 YAY! BSoD
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11:37 reactor Krock: what else would you expect from a fundamentally flawed product?
11:37 sfan5| meow
11:37 reactor Calabi-Yau!
11:37 Krock reactor, not much. Why do you ask me that?
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11:38 Krock xD
11:38 sfan5| o/ PenguinDad
11:38 reactor Krock: out of coincidence.
11:38 Krock ok
11:39 PenguinDad hey sfan5|
11:39 crazyR hey krock that fix didnt work. so i did it the lazy way
11:40 Krock ah
11:46 PenguinDad I just fell in love with #967
11:50 Taoki Weird. I'm using register_on_player_receive_fields to analyze what clicking an item in a "textlist" sends. But the fields appear to be an empty table. Any idea why?
11:51 Taoki How do I make clicking an element in a 'textlist' send the name of that element to register_on_player_receive_fields
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11:59 Krock Taoki, you might better wait until rubenwardy joins. He could help you
11:59 Taoki ok
12:01 kaeza mornings
12:01 Krock mornin' kaeza
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12:15 reactor Hmm. Minetest keeps throwing a floating point exception if I use null video.
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12:15 Krock linux with a chance of 80%
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12:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:28 Krock hi PilzAdam
12:28 PenguinDad Hi PilzAdam
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12:30 PilzAdam lol https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137401#p137401
12:33 Krock hmm are we a warez sharing community?
12:34 PenguinDad Krock: only wares :p
12:38 Krock this topic seems so bedead now too
12:38 Krock *to be dead
12:40 * PenguinDad flips __ontop_of_that_
12:40 Krock error_user___ontop_of_that__not_found
12:42 * PenguinDad flips Krock
12:42 * Krock slaps PenguinDad
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12:50 PenguinDad Why is minetest's fps locked at 60 on my GTX 650?
12:51 Taoki PilzAdam: textlist appears to be broken. minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields receives 0 elements from it even when there are more
12:51 reactor PenguinDad: check vsync
12:51 Taoki I looked in the main menu scripts and can't make sense out of how text lists are used there
12:52 PilzAdam PenguinDad, either because of the max_fps setting in minetest.conf or because of your video card's setting
12:52 PilzAdam s/video/graphics/
12:52 Taoki Any idea what's broken?
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13:01 BlockMen Krock, could you this one? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137428#p137428
13:02 Krock thanks for notify.. I as a little busy with another things. gonna test that one now
13:02 BlockMen ok, thx
13:03 Krock Hmm seems like that binary doesn't like me. The error still exist :/
13:03 BlockMen still the same error msg?!
13:04 Krock yes, sadly.
13:05 BlockMen hmm...really strange. well, at least leveldb is linked correct now^^
13:05 Krock maybe it's not minetest. It could be another library causing this problem
13:05 Krock yes, the leveldb workd fine on my vista-server
13:05 BlockMen but you had not this problems with older builds of me, right?
13:06 reactor BSOD
13:06 Krock yes
13:06 reactor fine
13:06 Krock reactor, you got one?
13:06 reactor I wish I could.
13:06 Krock sudo apt-get install BSoD
13:08 reactor poudriere bulk -j92amd64 sysutils/bsod&& pkg install -y bsod
13:08 BlockMen i guess winxp is not longer supported by my builds then, since i have no idea what else needed to fix
13:09 Krock BlockMen, the strange thing: sfan5 is using MinGW and it gives no errors there
13:09 Krock anyways thanks for this try to fix it
13:10 BlockMen thats why i said "my builds" ;). and i guess its somehow related to combination of msvcr100.dll and the build itself and "insert something here"
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13:37 Krock BlockMen, and you added the "#if (_WIN32_WINNT ..) .. #endif" codes to https://github.com/minetest/minet​est/blob/master/src/porting.h#L49 ?
13:38 Krock ack.. wrong line, it should be 186
13:41 BlockMen no, to main.cpp, even befor including porting. the it should call the right function
13:42 Krock hmm ok
13:42 BlockMen *-the +so
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13:46 BlockMen Krock, it could work with vs2013 and the V110_xp toolset, but i have vs2010 and no option to choose V110_xp toolset
13:46 Krock BlockMen, well as long I have an alternative, I feel happy :)
13:47 Krock I'm on a outdated system anyway
13:47 BlockMen kinda, yeah ;)
13:47 BlockMen not even microsoft supports xp anymore :P
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13:48 Krock Hmm M$ supports XP, but only for banks and the other important public machines
13:48 Krock until 2015 I've heard
13:50 reactor Player with the name "phyllis" tried to connect from 207.172.118.19 but it was disallowed for the following reason: Invalid name.
13:50 reactor False-positive in "no_guests"
13:51 Krock lol
13:51 Krock http://i.imgur.com/xx4Hetb.gif
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13:53 reactor Krock: that's so inefficient.
13:54 BlockMen important public machines with xp
13:54 reactor It could have walked to there.
13:54 BlockMen no good combination^^
13:54 reactor BlockMen: with Windows, in general.
13:54 reactor Imagine Windows-controlled power plants.
13:54 reactor This is happening.
13:54 BlockMen there is ...Iran
13:54 reactor Stuxnet, yeah.
13:54 BlockMen ^that
13:55 reactor Imagine firmware for avionics being developed on Windows machines.
13:55 reactor We have that.
13:56 BlockMen developt on or depending/running on?
13:56 reactor Knowing that, how can one be calm onboard?
13:56 BlockMen *developed
13:56 reactor Developed, but still.
13:56 reactor That means, code is written there, it is compiled there, it is installed on the targer system there, too!
13:56 BlockMen then i see no special difference...furthermore avionics have multiple backup systems
13:56 reactor And in that OS, something, somewhere may likely go wrong.
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14:05 Krock http://i.imgur.com/WtEaI5U.gif
14:06 reactor Krock: what is that?
14:06 Krock a link
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14:06 reactor What is that man trying to do?
14:06 Krock car washing
14:07 reactor Why'd he hold two hoses, in both hands?
14:07 Krock 2 cars
14:08 reactor ?
14:08 reactor There is only one car I see.
14:08 Krock uhm maybe is one not shown
14:10 reactor Too much assumptions.
14:10 reactor s/much/many/
14:13 * Krock is recording recorded records
14:14 reactor What are you trying to achieve by that?
14:14 reactor I am not a bot.
14:15 PenguinDad You are a very recording person Krock
14:15 Krock PenguinDad, ik
14:16 Krock reactor, you'rea bot.
14:17 BlockMen Krock, i found a typo. i dont really expect that it fixes the problem, but why not giving it a try https://www.dropbox.com/s/a​juxqkxytr1hzgi/minetest.exe ;)
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14:28 Taoki Hi. How do you remove a HUD waypoint after you have set it?
14:29 PilzAdam hud_remove(id)
14:30 Taoki Thanks
14:33 Taoki How should I chose an id, so other mods which might chose the same number don't conflict?
14:33 PilzAdam you get the id from hud_add
14:33 Taoki Ahh, it returns it as a value? Good to know
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14:34 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1851
14:34 Taoki So I do local value = player:hud_add(...)
14:34 Taoki Thanks
14:35 Krock BlockMen, no success with that binary. sorry
14:36 * BlockMen expected, but had another idea right this moment ^^
14:37 Krock BlockMen, you don't need to waste your time on this for me
14:37 BlockMen i doing that mainly because i want win over msvc :P
14:38 Krock good luck then lol
14:38 BlockMen and to make sure other user dont get these problems too maybe
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14:38 BlockMen because for what are my builds good is they are not useable?
14:38 Krock *if
14:38 Krock #grammarnazi
14:39 PenguinDad +zombie
14:39 Krock zombie??
14:40 PenguinDad Krock: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/So​uth_Park:_Der_Stab_der_Wahrheit
14:41 BlockMen ^ war klar...
14:42 BlockMen Krock, could you try once more? https://www.dropbox.com/s/o​4x2361jwg1khwb/minetest.exe :D
14:42 Krock Interesting game, PenguinDad lol
14:44 Krock BlockMen, no success but maybe it's because my cmd sais "Version 5.1.2600", so it could be higher than 0x0501 or whatever
14:45 BlockMen Krock, i changed the if to < 0x0600 so its used for all windows versions < vista
14:46 BlockMen and damn xp...
14:46 Krock and what if the compiler only compiles the codes where it gets compiled?
14:47 Krock sounds a bit compilicate with my bad english
14:47 Krock so it compiles under (ex.) windows 7 and ignores the XP codes?
14:47 * Krock has no idea of c / c++ compilers
14:48 BlockMen i tried to prevent that in the last build where i defined #_WINNT to xp
14:48 BlockMen but either it was ignored or it is called by some dll in bin folder
14:48 BlockMen which is the most expected by now
14:49 Krock hmm you, could be a possibility
14:49 Krock *yes
14:49 BlockMen well, thanks for testing that often ;)
14:49 Krock np
14:50 Krock even the rickroll video tells me:
14:50 Krock Never gonna give
14:50 Krock Never gonna give, give you up
14:52 BlockMen lol
14:53 * BlockMen finally got two chrome extension working together that autoplay, no ads and auto-hd works on youtube :)
15:13 sfan5 meow
15:13 PenguinDad hello sfan5
15:14 Krock woem
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15:17 rubenwardy Is anyone else having problems logging into gist.github.com?
15:17 rubenwardy I am signed into github.com, but the auth does not transfer to the subdomain.
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15:17 rubenwardy Also: hi
15:18 PilzAdam rubenwardy, go to github settings -> Applications  and add gist
15:23 rubenwardy Still not working
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15:26 rubenwardy weird
15:26 rubenwardy works on another browser
15:26 Taoki Hi. Why aren't color codes working in formspec labels, like I'm seeing they should?
15:26 Taoki Adding #FF0000 prints that as text
15:28 Taoki 0xFFFFFF does the same
15:29 Taoki Anyone got an idea?
15:30 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L976 i see no color thingie there
15:31 Taoki Thought it should work though, it's specified for other elements
15:31 Taoki Mods menu is able to use them for instance
15:31 Krock the text in mods menu aren't labels
15:33 rubenwardy TextArea
15:33 rubenwardy *TextList?
15:33 rubenwardy TextList
15:34 rubenwardy GitHub password changed!
15:35 sfan5 rubenwardy: you could've tried deleting your cookies
15:35 rubenwardy I did
15:36 Calinou Taoki, there is "real" color support in Freeminer, but it was never added to Minetest :'(
15:36 Calinou the menu one is not made to be used elsewhere, I think
15:36 Calinou (it used to even be hardcoded)
15:36 Calinou (try doing /help all in Freeminer and see)
15:36 Taoki ok. Can live without it then
15:39 rubenwardy Works now
15:39 rubenwardy Yoda language: https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/708e1ffbd3f033d09197
15:39 Calinou ponify it
15:39 Krock ^
15:40 rubenwardy And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the product of being bored
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15:42 Calinou fillies and gentleponies*
15:42 Calinou ;)
15:42 alister Hi
15:42 Calinou hi alister
15:42 rubenwardy oh dear
15:42 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=137439
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15:42 rubenwardy Look at the download D:
15:42 Calinou rubenwardy, you said there was a shock site on the forum, what was it?
15:43 Calinou lol
15:43 Calinou "MineTest" my eyes are bleeding
15:43 alister I need help ,i can't type the number  seven in minestest
15:43 rubenwardy *stock?
15:43 Calinou rubenwardy, suggesting some service would work better, they're probably beginner
15:44 alister Is it possible to create a bow in minetest ??
15:44 Calinou alister, known bug if using AZERTY layout
15:44 Calinou workaround: switch to QWERTY
15:44 Calinou (Alt+Shift)
15:44 alister ok thanks
15:44 Calinou no bows by default, by some mods add bows
15:44 Calinou rubenwardy, *stock?
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15:45 alister Im gonna try it
15:46 virusdunil hi all...is there a french channel ?
15:46 Krock some games make me just angry where I have to press the letter Z instead of Y cuz I'm having a qwertz keyboard >.<
15:47 virusdunil just change the controls setting ;)
15:47 rubenwardy Calinou: where you quoting this: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137392#p137392
15:47 rubenwardy *were
15:47 Calinou virusdunil, no
15:48 Calinou je parle français par contre :)
15:48 Calinou tu peux poser ta question en français si tu veux
15:48 Calinou rubenwardy, yes
15:48 Calinou Krock, change the controls ;)
15:48 rubenwardy stock as in stock photos, stock models.
15:48 virusdunil merci....c'etait ma question hahaha mais  ca serait interessant par contre d'en avoir un francais
15:48 Calinou on Windows, the controls are usually keyboard layout-independent: on GNU/Linux, they rarely are (exceptions exist, such as Valve games)
15:49 Calinou virusdunil, pas assez de monde :(
15:49 Calinou il y a un forum en français, c'est déjà cela
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15:49 virusdunil ouais j'ai fait le tour un peu mais meme les serveurs sont desuets hehehe
15:50 virusdunil j'essaie (mon fiston) mais
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15:50 virusdunil je suis sur que ca marcherait en francais hehehe
15:50 virusdunil un # jveux dire
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15:51 virusdunil j'aimerais bien aussi m'impliquer et faire un serveur fr
15:52 Krock English svp
15:52 virusdunil public
15:52 Krock or private chat
15:52 virusdunil thats why im asking for a french # ;)
15:52 rubenwardy Krock would enjoy #freeminer - they only talk russain in there
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15:53 * Krock sees no russian at #freeminer
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15:54 Jordach the difference between 60hz and 75hz kills me
15:54 Calinou suddenly, 144hz ;)
15:54 Krock Jordach, which is better for you?
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15:55 Calinou higher is better
15:55 Calinou but 75hz is nowhere to be found on LCD
15:55 Jordach Calinou, my Acer LCD has it
15:55 reactor What's the diff between 60 and 75 Hz on LCD, anyway?
15:55 Krock hmm? I've LCD and 75Hz but no idea if it really acn display 75Hz :3
15:55 reactor You can refresh an LCD at 25 Hz and not notice the difference!
15:55 Calinou a bit more reactive?
15:56 Krock reactor, eeh no
15:56 reactor LCD is more inertial than phosphors.
15:56 reactor a lot more
15:56 Calinou the best idea is to be in the times
15:56 Calinou get used to 60hz, it uses less power
15:56 Krock well, on my CRT monitor was a big differencebetween 60 and 75Hz.. noticing nothing here on the LCD
15:57 reactor Exactly!
15:57 reactor If the display is inertial enough, there shouldn't be any diff.
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15:58 Calinou rubenwardy, you could use .yoda extension
15:58 Calinou 8.3 is long time dead ;)
15:58 Jordach bleh
15:58 Jordach 300fps looks like shit at 60
15:58 Jordach hz*
15:58 alister Re : anybody can tell me what do i use to create a bow ??
15:58 Calinou you should not have 300 FPS
15:58 Calinou use vsync or limit your FPS
15:59 Jordach Calinou, it's choppier
15:59 Jordach MUCH more choppier
15:59 Calinou alister, there are no bows in the default games
15:59 Calinou Jordach, then something's wrong with your screen
15:59 Calinou vsync will work poorly if you can't have constant 60 FPS
15:59 Calinou limit FPS to 60 or 61
15:59 alister comment les ajouter ??
15:59 Jordach Calinou, difference being 4:3 and 16:10
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16:00 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2805
16:00 Calinou alister, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2805
16:01 Jordach ugh
16:01 Jordach lcd temp is even worse, soo blue even on arm
16:01 Jordach warm*
16:01 Calinou change it using the OSD
16:01 Jordach just did
16:01 Jordach STILL TOO BLUE
16:02 reactor Don't they have standard settings?
16:02 reactor 5400K, 6500K, 9???K?
16:02 Jordach there
16:02 reactor Or they don't stick to standards, only claim to?
16:02 Jordach AMD Catalyst Controls ftw
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16:03 reactor driver settings suck
16:03 reactor they make their own tools, not sticking to standards
16:03 reactor Why not implement a sysctl for their shit?
16:03 reactor But no, they will go incredible lengths just to make their own shitty bicycle!
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16:11 Calinou Jordach, yeah, you can change color settings in the graphics driver too
16:11 Calinou <reactor> driver settings suck
16:11 Calinou <reactor> they make their own tools, not sticking to standards
16:11 Calinou there's no real standards, apart of the defunct DRIConf
16:11 Calinou radeon-profile-tool is not unified
16:11 Calinou and doesn't do everythingh
16:11 Calinou -h
16:11 reactor There is the standard way - sysctl.
16:11 reactor Sysctl and only sysctl.
16:11 Calinou users want GUIs
16:12 reactor So what? Implement a GUi that changes sysctls.
16:12 Calinou that's possible
16:12 reactor That's how it's done in UNIX.
16:12 reactor Everything too fancu goes into front-end.
16:12 reactor s/cu/cy/
16:16 alister Calinou ,Re : i've exptracted the file , what should i type to install it p. please
16:16 Krock rubenwardy, CN script https://gist.github.com/Smal​lJoker/5627bafad3265ea2ce8f
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16:18 Calinou alister, http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
16:22 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137429#p137429 lol
16:22 Calinou (meme warning)
16:26 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137453#p137453
16:26 Calinou "Maybe players could write bios"
16:26 Calinou rubenwardy, no, you should write UEFI
16:26 Calinou (really, I read "bios" as in BIOS here)
16:27 alister Calinou , je comprend rien
16:27 rubenwardy what are you on mate?
16:27 rubenwardy oh
16:27 rubenwardy ^ reactor
16:27 Calinou I'm on Xfce, not on MATE
16:27 Calinou (-:
16:27 alister calinou , il est senssé etre ou le dossier mods ?
16:27 Calinou alister, put the "throwing" directory in (your Minetest directory)/mods
16:28 alister i made a typical instalation and i don't even know where's the path
16:29 reactor rubenwardy: eh?
16:30 rubenwardy oh, you did mean me
16:30 rubenwardy nevermind, reactor.
16:30 alister calinou , do i only past the innner  files or the folder as it is unzipped
16:30 reactor rubenwardy: always mind.
16:30 rubenwardy he
16:30 rubenwardy hehe
16:30 rubenwardy "he" * (1/0)
16:31 alister calinou , bin , boot cdroom dev ...etc where is it ?
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16:34 alister nobody
16:35 PenguinDad alister: ~/.minetest/mods/
16:35 Calinou alister, the whole "throwing" directory
16:36 Calinou make sure it is named "throwing"
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16:38 alister Calinou , do i move the folder or only the within files ?
16:39 PenguinDad alister: the whole folder
16:40 Calinou alister, the folder
16:40 alister ok , in texture path ??
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16:41 PenguinDad <PenguinDad> alister: ~/.minetest/mods/
16:41 Mikerhinos your path has to be /.minetest/mods/NomDuMod/init.lua
16:41 alister i don't have /mods
16:41 Mikerhinos create it
16:42 Calinou https://lafibre.info/systeme-exploitation/bso​d-ecran-bleu-de-la-mort-de-windows/?topicseen (French, but it's mostly images)
16:42 Calinou for Krock ;)
16:43 Mikerhinos if you downloaded the mod on github you'll surely have to rename folder from "NomDuMod-master" to "NomDuMod" too
16:43 alister i talked too fast i found a mods folder in user/share/minetest/game/minimal
16:43 PenguinDad alister: use the folder I told you
16:44 Calinou alister, no, you don't put your mod here
16:44 Calinou it's improper and requires administrator (sudo/root) rights
16:44 Krock Calinou, that's windows! yeah man!
16:44 Calinou Mikerhinos, hey, you're French too apparently, and you use the same ISP as me ;)
16:44 Mikerhinos we talked in french a few days ago here lol
16:46 alister i thonk i'm going to be okay with that in a few moment
16:46 alister thanks
16:46 Mikerhinos but it's a good thing not remembering me because I often say bulls*it lol
16:46 Krock The BSoD should be copyrightd
16:47 Calinou it already is, more or less, but Microsoft doesn't care
16:47 Calinou it's Windows' output
16:47 Krock :D
16:50 Mikerhinos Calinou: I'm from Vichy (Auvergne) and you ?
16:51 Calinou north-east of France
16:51 Calinou not so close of you
16:53 Mikerhinos Champagne ?
16:54 Calinou yes
16:54 Mikerhinos I will maybe move to Geneva in june for work
16:54 Calinou how did oyu guess? :p
16:55 Mikerhinos north-east of Auvergne tip, plus that's one of the only region that I know there lol
16:55 alister calinou , mods folder created , i need to move the folder from bureau to mods , and i don't know how to
16:56 Calinou drag and drop? cut and paste?
16:59 alister ok , i found how to do it
16:59 alister it's done i'm going to try it
17:00 alister usr/share/minetest/mods/throwing
17:00 alister seem's good ?
17:02 Mikerhinos on Linux ?
17:02 ShadowNinja alister: No, it's "Seems good?"  :-)
17:03 alister 3rd person takes a s
17:03 alister i know
17:03 alister ok , wicth items do i need to combine ??
17:04 reactor http://i.imgur.com/kpqR0sM.png
17:06 ShadowNinja reactor: Um, wut?
17:06 reactor Krock style
17:06 alister to make a bow , string + ??
17:06 Krock reactor, huh?
17:08 rubenwardy MinetestBot!
17:09 PenguinDad rubenwardy!
17:09 rubenwardy I may have DDoS'ed MinetestBot
17:10 PenguinDad DDoS with one computer lol
17:11 rubenwardy PenguinDad, PM#
17:14 alister que faut t'il ajouter avec les 3 strings pour faire un arc(bow)
17:14 rubenwardy "The first index is 1, unlike most other languages that start with 0. The reason this was chosen is because it's often more intuitive, and because it's just a key, not an offset from the beginning, which is how most other languages implement actual array types. "
17:15 rubenwardy The number one thing that screws me up in Lua
17:16 Mikerhinos I prefer when it starts with 1, because as you said it's more intuitive :)
17:17 Krock lua is cool but that one thing with the indexing...I just can't understand that:/
17:17 rubenwardy I didn't say that, Mikerhinos.
17:17 rubenwardy It is not more intuitive for those who know how to program
17:18 Mikerhinos it is for those who never programmed, and for those who learnt in a language that has the 1st index=1
17:19 rubenwardy which is no languages
17:20 Mikerhinos can't remember which but I already saw some
17:20 BlockMen even vb has first index 0 :P
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17:29 Krock HELP! players keep spawning at 0 0 0 instead of static_spawn on 0 10 0
17:30 rubenwardy try setting with /set -n static_spawn 0,10,0     ingame?
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17:31 Krock already tried, nothing changed
17:33 Krock awsum..crashed server by punching travelnet station
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17:40 crazyR_ does bad command still handaround
17:40 crazyR_ *hangaround
17:41 Krock bad_command?
17:42 PenguinDad who is bad_command?
17:43 kaeza crazyR_, his last login was at 2012-05-17 12:15:25, sooo... nope
17:43 frecel joined #minetest
17:44 crazyR_ yeah thought as much, his github account has been inactive for some time
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17:47 rubenwardy !seen bad_command
17:47 rubenwardy ~seen bad_command
17:48 Krock !only shadowbot is here
17:48 Jordach PilzAdam, isn't there a way to define custom tool names
17:48 rubenwardy I am banned from ShadowBot
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17:48 Jordach (eg, player defined, rather than lua)
17:48 Krock ~seen bad_command
17:48 ShadowBot Krock: I haven't seen bad_command in #minetest.
17:48 PenguinDad ~logger seenany MinetestBot
17:48 ShadowBot PenguinDad: I saw MinetestBot in #minetest 39 minutes and 24 seconds ago quiting (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
17:48 Jordach !unignore rubenwardy
17:48 Calinou Bad_Command is long time gone, probably
17:48 Krock *quitting?
17:48 PenguinDad Jordach: wrong bot
17:49 Jordach PenguinDad, i has admin rights for minetest bot
17:49 Jordach and she isn't here
17:49 Jordach sfan5, ^
17:51 PilzAdam Jordach, "tool names"? you mean description?
17:51 Jordach PilzAdam, yeah
17:52 PilzAdam you cant change that on runtime
17:52 Jordach PilzAdam, that would be nice to have ;)
17:52 EvergreenTree About my issue on minetest about adding minetest.get_player_velocity or player:get_velocity()
17:52 Jordach tool metadata wouldn't be hard to store
17:52 EvergreenTree I saw sapier's reply
17:53 EvergreenTree Being able to change anything in the registration on the fly would be nice
17:56 rubenwardy I may have killed MinetestBotr
17:56 rubenwardy *MinetestBot
17:56 rubenwardy And for that, I am sorry :(
18:02 Jordach yay
18:02 Jordach got some steel
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18:05 Krock Jordach, how long were you digging now to get it?:P
18:05 Jordach Krock, -40 it begins to get common
18:07 PenguinDad Jordach: wat https://github.com/minetest/minetest​_game/pull/251#issuecomment-40314230
18:08 Jordach fucking \n\n double encodings
18:08 Jordach Krock, returned Coal Ore to be a lot more common
18:09 PenguinDad and that "Sent from Windows Mail" part
18:09 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/NY8SDDp9iirT.png
18:09 Jordach s/returned/made
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18:11 Jordach then made iron spawn BELOW -64
18:11 Krock LOL a player joined and got resetted to static spawn - server resetted his position cuz he was moving too fast..wtf?
18:12 reactor Hax
18:12 Krock *a new player
18:12 PenguinDad Krock: set disable_anticheat to true
18:12 Krock PenguinDad, dude, this is a needed thing
18:13 PenguinDad Krock: It doesn't work properly
18:13 Krock PenguinDad, but it should protect from fly down haxx
18:14 Krock rubenwardy, srsly?
18:14 rubenwardy Yeah?
18:14 Krock more food?
18:14 rubenwardy nope
18:14 rubenwardy Not more food
18:17 rubenwardy Krock will be glad to know that I have started making textures for food_asian
18:17 Krock more food...
18:17 crazyR lol
18:18 PenguinDad I'm hungry so I need more food :D
18:18 Krock rubenwardy: "...en eating another apple would only give half its health points" an apple only gives 0.5 hearths..?
18:18 Calinou <Krock> PenguinDad, but it should protect from fly down haxx
18:19 Calinou it never does
18:19 Calinou it's impossible
18:19 Calinou can't distinguish falling from cheating
18:19 Calinou what we need is noclip prevention...
18:19 Calinou should have been done long time ago
18:19 rubenwardy Maybe, krock
18:19 Krock Calinou, what else does that anticheat do?
18:19 Krock except of resetting positions to 000?
18:19 rubenwardy What is the maximum hit points a player can have?
18:20 PenguinDad Krock: it often resets the position of high ping players
18:21 EvergreenTree Speaking of falling, is there currently any reliable way of checking if a player died by falling?
18:21 Krock PenguinDad, ikr
18:21 Krock ..not yet
18:21 Calinou Kray, anti-high speed, anti-interact from far away
18:21 Calinou anti-cheat does not reset positions
18:22 Calinou it moves you to your previous location
18:25 Kray wat
18:25 Jordach Calinou, you meant Krock, right
18:26 Krock xD
18:26 Krock another tab typo
18:26 Calinou yeah
18:26 Calinou the tab-complete on HexChat "last spoke" doesn't work
18:26 Calinou nvm
18:26 Calinou I had wrong setting
18:26 Calinou now it works :DD
18:26 Jordach n00b
18:26 Jordach even i check that
18:27 Calinou it's not nice to tell someone they're a noob
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18:31 Krock xD
18:33 Jordach WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cGY8rrmmaZfv.png
18:36 Krock Jordach, the errors are the bets of that image
18:36 rubenwardy Lol, Jordach
18:36 Krock *best
18:36 Jordach i added stairs and forgot to redo all the magic shit
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18:49 iqualfragile Calinou: yes, you can distinguish falling from flying
18:53 Calinou not trivial
18:53 Calinou flying downwards?
18:53 Calinou oh, we also need anti-flight
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19:06 iqualfragile Calinou: well, you need to do some accelleration based stuff
19:06 iqualfragile not just speed
19:06 iqualfragile i think there is a max fall speed, too, but i might be misstaken
19:07 iqualfragile (would be physically accurate)
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19:11 iqualfragile how2 enable 3rd person?
19:11 rubenwardy iqualfragile: f7
19:12 rubenwardy press once, view back. press again, view front XD
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19:13 Mikerhinos I think that falling speed is maxed by air friction, that's why a feather and a piece of iron fall at same speed in a vacuum tube
19:14 iqualfragile rubenwardy: thanks
19:15 iqualfragile Mikerhinos: in real life: yes, obviously
19:15 iqualfragile but in minetest?
19:15 Mikerhinos oh, no idea lol
19:18 rubenwardy If it is accelerating downwards at 9.81, then falling
19:19 Mikerhinos ok checked discussion log in the last hour
19:20 rubenwardy bye all
19:20 VanessaE_ if accelerating downward at [gravity setting]*0.1 then falling.
19:20 Mikerhinos you want to find if someone is falling/flying in pure vertical axe ?
19:21 VanessaE_ downward doesn't have to imply not-horizontally
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19:21 VanessaE_ check the Y vector and ignore X/Z
19:21 iqualfragile Mikerhinos: no, we want to find out if somebody is just falling vs is warping/flying downwards
19:21 PilzAdam VanessaE_, *the y scalar
19:21 VanessaE_ if player is moving vertically at all and fly isn't turned on, then they're obviously falling :P
19:22 VanessaE_ PilzAdam: right
19:24 Mikerhinos if they go from node N to like N-30 and don't lose some life, they're flying, will it work ?
19:24 iqualfragile Mikerhinos: no
19:24 iqualfragile but its simple
19:24 iqualfragile you just need to simulate the falling including accelleration on server side
19:25 iqualfragile and check with some kind of confidence intervall
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20:09 Krock What's this new "Rol" flag at servers.minetest.net?
20:13 ShadowNinja Krock: It isn't new, but it stands for Rollback.
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20:19 crazyR hmm. anyone used sfan5's fork of the  mapper on centos 6
20:20 sfan5 crazyR: what's your problem?
20:23 crazyR ive install gd and gd-devel but when running cmake it says it cant find it
20:24 sfan5 I can't help you then
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20:27 PenguinDad try removing CMakeCache.txt and CMakeFiles/ then run it again
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20:32 crazyR PenguinDad: didnt work. maybe i need to install gd from source instead of packaged
20:34 ShadowNinja crazyR: Try http://sprunge.us/DFjU
20:34 ShadowNinja You'll need scons.
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20:37 crazyR Got scons, cnt remember what i needed to install it for but its there. i probably sound really stupid now but what do i do with that file/link
20:38 crazyR oh wait its a git patch isnt it?
20:39 ShadowNinja crazyR: Yep.  Try wget <URL> -o ../p && git apply ../p
20:39 ShadowNinja Or -O rather.
20:40 crazyR hmmmm, think il remove it and install via git, use wget to grab it. thanks for the advise. il let you know how it goes :/
20:41 crazyR *used
20:41 ShadowNinja Oh, you weren't using git?
20:42 crazyR i have git installed, but i didnt use git lol. its ok, wont take me a min to clone it with git
20:42 crazyR then apply that patch
20:47 crazyR ShadowNinja: patch failed
20:53 ShadowNinja crazyR: Hmmm, one sec...
20:54 ShadowNinja crazyR: http://sprunge.us/Gefh should work.
20:57 ShadowNinja Or http://sprunge.us/dSeT .  Added map.png accidentally.
20:58 crazyR still doesnt work. 1 moment il send you a copy of the output
21:00 crazyR https://gist.github.com/cra​zyR14/ad4aa5c8fdc53eae74ae
21:02 ShadowNinja crazyR: Try the second one.
21:02 crazyR oh sorry didnt see that
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21:10 crazyR ShadowNinja: seems like that patch deletes the  CMakeLists.txt file also shows this warning: warning: 4 lines add whitespace errors.
21:18 ShadowNinja crazyR: You can ignore that.  And yes, it removes all CMake files.  Run 'scons' to compile it.
21:23 crazyR ok we're getting somewhere now. but its says it cnt find sqlite3 even thought its installed
21:30 PenguinDad Good night everyone!
21:32 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=137530#p137530 Opinions?
21:33 Exio4 d'ora in poi troverooo, la mia vera identita e vivro si vivro, per sempre in libertaaa
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21:42 ShadowNinja crazyR: Hmmm, your distro must use weird paths for libraries...
21:42 crazyR possibly. im beginning to wish i stuck with ububtu
21:42 ShadowNinja crazyR: Make sure that SQLite3 is really installed.  And not 2.
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