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00:03 Eater4 !next
00:03 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
00:04 Eater4 ShadowNinja can u have shadowbot do that
00:05 Eater4 Lq
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00:40 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000
00:40 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 is up (1325ms)
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01:46 ShadowNinja ~give Eater4 echo Already done.  <next>
01:46 ShadowBot Eater4: Already done. Another satisfied customer. Next!
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02:16 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
02:16 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
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03:05 Minty_ Hello ~
03:06 Minty_ .................
03:06 Minty_ .Silence
03:06 Minty_ wow
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05:46 stormchaser3000 hi
05:46 stormchaser3000 does anyone know how to get ahold of sapier's android builds?
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07:03 Krock ehm hello?
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07:18 Mikerhinos hi
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07:37 reactor Ehlo.
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08:11 Mikerhinos mithril is the deepest ore ?
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08:26 Krock http://pastebin.com/cPsxUBeR
08:26 Krock Mah minetest crashed
08:27 Krock boo-hooo
08:32 sfan5 Krock: buy more RAM
08:32 Krock hmm I though 2 GB is the limit for a 32-bit system, or was it 4?
08:33 reactor 2^32 bytes
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08:34 reactor 4.
08:34 Krock 4294967296 ok, then I could upgrade
08:35 Mikerhinos so my ubuntu 32bits won't use my 8Go ?
08:35 reactor You could address more if you have PAE.
08:35 reactor Mikerhinos: ^
08:35 reactor People still use Ubuntu?
08:36 reactor I thought it'd been broken for ages.
08:36 sfan5 reactor: Ubuntu is ok, but the Unity is a piece of shit
08:37 Mikerhinos no they just changed the window manager to Unity by default and a lot of people quit, like me a few years ago
08:37 Mikerhinos now i gave it a second shot, and i'm getting used to it
08:37 reactor I'm not talking about windows managers. I'm talking about under the hood.
08:37 sfan5 Mikerhinos: use Xubuntu or Kubuntu before it's too late
08:38 reactor Change of a default WM is not a problem for experinced users.
08:38 sfan5 reactor: the "under the hood" stuff is ok
08:38 sfan5 but there are things like this:
08:38 sfan5 I can have libav and libav-dev but NOT libav-extra (with mp3 support) and libav-dev
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08:39 Mikerhinos sfan5, already tried it but there are so many online help ressources for ubuntu, i know that many are true no matter the window manager, but as i said i'm getting used to Unity lol
08:40 * tim_flatus shudders.
08:41 Mikerhinos ok i just have to install apt://linux-generic-pae to support more than 4go, thx reactor for the tip :)
08:42 Mikerhinos supposed to be automatically installed if system detects more than 4go on installation though, will try to install and see if it says "package already installed", just to be sure lol
08:47 Calinou :( I did my checks wrongly, it looks like you can't light up wheat or cotton enough at night
08:48 Calinou torch is light level 13, crop needs light level 13... so it can't have light level 13
08:48 Calinou lava is also 13
08:48 Calinou LIGHT_MAX is 14, I thought it was 15
08:48 Calinou sfan5, "before it's too late"?
08:48 Calinou even 14.04 is probably fine
08:49 sfan5 lelwat
08:49 tim_flatus Calinou: Crops should not be able to grow by torchlight, that's silly.
08:49 sfan5 you should be able to grow crops using some special light
08:49 Calinou why not? (-:
08:49 sfan5 which is impossible like this
08:50 Calinou I'm surprised LIGHT_MAX is 14 though and not 15
08:50 tim_flatus Because of Realism In Computer Games.
08:50 sfan5 it would also be realistic to have a special light that allows crops to grow
08:50 Mikerhinos i'm on 14.04 and it's really fine
08:50 tim_flatus "Special" being the operative word. Like gro-lamps you mean.
08:51 tim_flatus Nothing should grow by torchlight.
08:51 Calinou super_glow_glass in moreblocks is light level 15
08:51 Calinou (maybe it's just 14 actually, 15 is reserved to sun)
08:53 tim_flatus Perhaps you need to make GM wheat mod. :p
08:54 * tim_flatus hides.
08:57 Mikerhinos wow, all the water in my cave is turned to ice and snow, i guess it's winter lol
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09:00 tim_flatus That reminds me - can you retrieve a "time of year" value? How does minetest work out that it is winter?
09:02 sfan5 tim_flatus: there are no seasons
09:02 sfan5 (assuming you don't have a mod that adds them)
09:02 tim_flatus That's what I thought.
09:04 tim_flatus I'm sure I saw a year length setting. Does that not do anything?
09:05 Calinou there's season settings in the default game
09:05 Calinou Minetest, yes
09:06 tim_flatus yep. year_days
09:07 Mikerhinos i don't have any season mod, and water all around my house and in caves is turned to ice or snow
09:07 tim_flatus Does this only affect default:ice in default_game?
09:09 tim_flatus Sorry minetest_game. Must read before posting. :/
09:10 crazyR Krock: have you got a low resolution texture pack you could use it might improve you fps
09:11 Krock crazyR, default.
09:13 crazyR Il try try and create a low res texute pack when i get a moment, I have no fps issues.
09:13 Krock lol?! searching paramat's minimalistic icons pack
09:14 crazyR lol yeah but they it doesnt have the same feel haha
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09:15 tim_flatus I can see default:water* is in group 'freezes' and specifies a node to change into. Does anyone know where the code is that tells it when to freeze? Is it hard or soft-coded?
09:16 Krock it freezes when there's now near to it
09:16 Krock *snow
09:21 tim_flatus So I'm guessing it's hard-coded with nothing exposed to the API? Or at least it does not seem to be documented.
09:21 sfan5 IIRC that part is done in C++
09:21 sfan5 but I'm not really sure
09:23 tim_flatus All I want is a 'minetest.get_year_day' really.
09:23 tim_flatus ... with brackets on.
09:34 Krock ~up 85.1.67.73
09:34 ShadowBot Krock: 85.1.67.73 port 30000 is up (218ms)
09:35 Krock !up 85.1.67.73
09:35 MinetestBot 85.1.67.73:30000 is up (38ms)
09:37 tim_flatus foo bar humbug
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09:41 tim_flatus wwowkd?
09:49 tim_flatus I may have mentioned that I've been running minetest on very low-end equipment: I have just acquired a lappy with a half-way decent video card that allows me to use shaders. I have to say, wow. That actually is quite clever.
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09:52 Krock Cool. I don't have shaders
09:53 tim_flatus The fudging of low-res textures to create a believable 3d environment really is quite cool.
09:55 tim_flatus When I first saw screenshots I didn't really 'get' it. Mind you, I'd been building stuff in Sauerbraten.
09:55 tim_flatus I now understand that there is just no comparison between the two.
09:57 reactor xrandr -o inverted
09:58 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
09:58 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
09:58 crazyR ~up 37.187.177.180 31000
09:58 ShadowBot crazyR: 37.187.177.180 port 31000 is up (205ms)
09:58 crazyR where is shadowbot based? that is a huge diffrence
10:00 PenguinDad I think ShadowBot is somewhere in the US
10:02 Krock ./whois of ShadowBot: Server: cameron.freenode.net (Vilnius, Lithuania, EU)
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10:03 sfan5 Krock: that is which freenode server ShadowBot is connected to
10:03 PenguinDad Krock: that doesn't mean anything
10:03 Krock sfan5, I thought it searchs the best server in the near to connect to
10:03 sfan5 no
10:03 PenguinDad ~ip
10:03 Krock oh
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10:09 Calinou <tim_flatus> When I first saw screenshots I didn't really 'get' it. Mind you, I'd been building stuff in Sauerbraten.
10:09 tim_flatus I want to remap scroll wheel moves to something like KEY_RIGHT and KEY_LEFT. Does anyone know how to reference mouse wheel up / down in minetest.conf?
10:09 Calinou Sauerbraten is not known for beautiful textures
10:09 Calinou you can't change mouse actions, sadly
10:10 sfan5 you can
10:10 sfan5 recompile irrlicht
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10:10 tim_flatus :( OK, I will get a USB mouse then.
10:10 melmux that is nt very practical sfan :)
10:10 tim_flatus The touchpad scroll function is slightly dangerous in game terms.
10:11 PenguinDad You could also build a special mouse and special drivers
10:11 sfan5 s/and special drivers//
10:12 sfan5 if you make your special mouse use the USB HID standard you don't need drivers
10:12 tim_flatus ?? no I just need a mouse with a real scroll wheel. Nothing special.
10:12 ShadowBot tim_flatus: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
10:13 sfan5 wat
10:13 sfan5 ^ ShadowNinja
10:13 tim_flatus whoops.
10:13 sfan5 ?? test
10:13 sfan5 ?? help
10:13 ShadowBot sfan5: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
10:14 * tim_flatus stops leaning on the bot's control panel.
10:15 PenguinDad ?? up 37.187.177.180 31000
10:15 ShadowBot PenguinDad: 37.187.177.180 port 31000 is up (207ms)
10:26 Mikerhinos i have that error every 2-3s : "12:22:44: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: peer 6 not found
10:26 Mikerhinos ", restarted clients and server, after a few minutes, still the same :s
10:26 Mikerhinos did a clear_objects too
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10:27 PenguinDad Mikerhinos: just ignore it
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10:28 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000
10:28 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 seems to be down
10:32 Mikerhinos well i'd be happy to ignore it, problem is if we break a block, we won't have it in our inventory, and if we put a block on the floor from our inventory, we still have the same quantity, like if server was ignoring all moves
10:34 Krock Mikerhinos, then downgrade your MT version
10:34 reactor Mikerhinos: creative?
10:34 troller connection.cpp now very stable, you can play 3-5 minutes without reconnect!
10:34 Mikerhinos no creative
10:36 reactor Someone needs to kick Buildcraft's developer's balls really hard.
10:36 reactor There are too many "Admin"s trying to join.
10:36 reactor Why don't people change their default nick?
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10:36 reactor I think setting a name must be enforced, otherwise we end up with a bunch of Guests or Admins.
10:37 reactor Might as well name guests "mingebag".
10:37 Krock and every 2nd user sais me "help, I can't craft" and "how to set home???" cuz they're playing on a tablet or just on a not-PC-game
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10:40 sfan5 reactor: I recently removed two worldcraft apps from the play store via DMCA
10:40 reactor ?
10:40 sfan5 worldcraft/buildcraft
10:40 sfan5 the people who created the first minetest android rip-off
10:41 Mikerhinos i had "lime minetest" from the play store the other day, and it's not available anymore, was really buggy though
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10:43 Krock When't the official android version gonna publish?
10:43 Krock *When's
10:43 sfan5 Krock: maybe with 0.4.10
10:43 Krock okay
10:43 Mikerhinos cool
10:44 Mikerhinos will it be able to connect pc servers ?
10:44 sfan5 yes
10:44 sfan5 the anroid version will be full-featured
10:44 sfan5 android*
10:44 Mikerhinos great, because last time i tried minecraft pocket, it wasn't
10:44 sfan5 I don't think MC:PE ever will
10:44 Mikerhinos so it could get some more minecraft players in minetest
10:45 reactor What's the big fuss about it being "illegal"?
10:45 reactor I mean, buildcraft
10:45 sfan5 buildcraft devs did not posts THEIR src code
10:46 reactor ah
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10:46 Mikerhinos is there a minetest renaming in the future ? A friend of me thought that when i was speaking about minetest on facebook, it was actually some sort of "beta" or daily of minecraft :s
10:47 Mikerhinos because of the "test" in the name
10:47 sfan5 I don't think Minetest will be renamed
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10:49 Krock Mikerhinos, it already got renamed once from minetest-c55 to minetset
10:49 Mikerhinos don't think too, but it can be confusing for some people. "Test" is employed for unfinished stuff, instable software etc... :s
10:49 sfan5 people need to stop associating test with unfinished then
10:49 Mikerhinos lol yes
10:49 sfan5 but it's right
10:50 sfan5 Minetest is not finished
10:50 sfan5 and it will not be in the next 2 years
10:50 troller reactor, admins from ios
10:50 Mikerhinos it will never be i guess, because people are too creative and always release new stuff lol
10:50 sfan5 :S
10:50 sfan5 reactor, troller: Unfortanely it isn't that easy to remove stuff from the App Store
10:50 reactor When a project is finished, it is usually dead as well.
10:51 Mikerhinos that's what i like in these type of games, everyweek you have new things to play with
10:51 GhostDoge sfan5: I only know one finished software xfig
10:51 reactor For example, see "thttpd".
10:51 troller Mikerhinos, freeminer is renamed version of minetest ;)
10:51 reactor Does anyone ever remind of it?
10:52 reactor While it's still a good piece of software, no one reminds of it, because it's "finished".
10:52 reactor There always must be maintained a minimal level of development.
10:52 reactor Otherwise, devs leave.
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10:56 reactor ...is there a way to convert sqlite map to leveldb?
10:56 sfan5 reactor: minetest --server --migrate leveldb --world <mapdir>
10:56 Mikerhinos when i see how many $$$ minecraft is, i wonder how you guys can spend so many time to offer us players a so polished game for free lol
10:58 Krock Mikerhinos, MC is a horrible waste of money, players think: "Ah it costs alot, then it must be very good"
11:00 reactor sfan5: oh, ty
11:01 reactor MC also lacks modularity.
11:01 reactor Can't hook up things to it.
11:02 Mikerhinos problem is : a few people is aware of minetest...i discovered it with luck on google, if you check even on the biggest french video game website for it, it doesn't even have a single article on the subject (http://www.jeuxvideo.com/re​cherche/jeux/minetest.htm)
11:04 Krock I found it over google, searching for a free MC alternative, found Minetest 0.3.1 or somewhat
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11:07 Mikerhinos yes it's not that easy to find, even if it's maybe the best free alternative
11:08 GhostDoge I found minetest on Holarse
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11:11 troller mc have quality
11:15 Krock MC have quality, on cost of CPU and graphic card. MT tries to get the best out of poor computers
11:17 Mikerhinos to be honest, i had less distance of view AND fps on MC
11:17 Krock to be honest, I don't know how MC's inventory looks like.. that crap never started on my PC
11:18 Mikerhinos maybe the fact that i was playing on Windows DirectX for MC and Linux OpenGL for MT is the difference
11:18 sfan5 windows usually makes things a bit slower
11:18 Mikerhinos to be honest, the few days i played MC was on an illegal client...
11:18 Krock Mikerhinos, you're a bad boy! UUUH
11:19 * Krock slaps Mikerhinos a bit with a large trout
11:19 Mikerhinos i was blind, but now i see, and i'm on a free OS and MT lol
11:19 sfan5 ubunth is not a free OS
11:20 sfan5 ubuntu*
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11:24 Mikerhinos i don't remember the word, in french it's "libre", which can be translated in english to free, but also "gratuit"
11:26 Mikerhinos we have too much words in french lol
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11:30 Mikerhinos mithril tools are the top notch ?
11:35 Krock huh?
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11:57 Mikerhinos in MC, top tools are diamond tools, in MT it seems to be mithril ones ?
11:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Performance optimized button to button mask evaluation 28854495b1 2014-04-03T20:26:26+02:00 http://git.io/H_L9XA
11:58 sfan5 Mikerhinos: the mese pickaxe is the best tool
11:58 Krock mithril is good too, but diamond and mese are better
11:58 Mikerhinos ok thanks :) i have more mese than mithril so i was thinking it was mithril :)
11:59 GhostDoge I everytime pulverize the diamonds I found
12:00 Krock same
12:00 Krock I always get diamonds, but I search stone..
12:01 crazyR yeah mese is more common that both mithril and diamond so would have though the best tool woul be made from them
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12:01 reactor mithril?
12:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:01 Krock moreores:mithril_ore
12:01 reactor Did I miss something?
12:01 Krock hi PilzAdam
12:01 * GhostDoge licks PilzAdam
12:05 Mikerhinos hi PilzAdam
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12:48 hoodedice so
12:52 crazyR function minetest.after(time, func, ...)
12:52 crazyR table.insert(minetest.timers_to_add, {time=time, func=func, args={...}})
12:52 crazyR end <-- how could that be changed to just send a notice rather than crash the server. when nil values are used in mods?
12:54 sfan5 function minetest.after(time, func, ...)
12:55 sfan5 if time == nil or func == nil then minetest.log("ERROR", "invalid minetest.after call by "..minetest.get_current_modname()) end
12:55 sfan5 table.insert(minetest.timers_to_add, {time=time, func=func, args={...}})
12:55 sfan5 end
12:55 sfan5 ^ crazyR: that should work
12:55 sfan5 oh wait
12:55 sfan5 2nd line this:
12:55 sfan5 if time == nil or func == nil then return minetest.log("ERROR", "invalid minetest.after call by "..minetest.get_current_modname()) end
12:56 crazyR thanks
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12:58 * Krock discovered how nice a trout slap command can be on a server
12:59 crazyR lol ohh i wawnt one, im adding one
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12:59 * crazyR opens ethicrush custom folder :D
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13:03 Krock (C) (R) TM Krock 2014
13:07 hoodedice hoodedice™
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13:22 sfan5 o/ Jordach
13:29 Jordach hoodedice, i am now in possession of a G36
13:29 hoodedice like, IRL?
13:29 Jordach ya
13:30 hoodedice pics or it didn't happen
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13:46 matsetes Hi guys!
13:46 Krock hey
13:46 matsetes Is there someone who has practice with technic mod?
13:47 Krock there's a minetest technic mod channel
13:47 sfan5 matsetes: wait for RealBadAngel and ask him
13:47 Krock #minetest-techic
13:47 matsetes Thanks
13:48 matsetes There is nobody!
13:48 matsetes No, ok, miswriting
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13:50 reactor Is leveldb fully supported now?
13:50 sfan5 define "fully"
13:50 PilzAdam reactor, was it ever non-fully supported?
13:50 reactor I don't seem to be able to build with -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
13:50 sfan5 pastebin output
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13:54 reactor or wait
13:54 reactor actually...
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14:32 reactor It works.
14:32 reactor Idk what happened.
14:33 reactor Yet, when trying to --migrate, I see "Successfully migrated 0 blocks"
14:33 reactor preceded by "ERROR[main]: Map::listAllLoadableBlocks(): Result will be missing all blocks that are stored in flat files"
14:33 sfan5 did anything happen to map.sqlite?
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14:41 GhostDoge reactor: what was the command?
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14:42 reactor minetest --server --migrate leveldb --world ${ВОРЛД}
14:43 reactor sfan5: seems to be there
14:44 sfan5 hm
14:44 sfan5 :S
14:44 sfan5 file a bug maybe
14:44 GhostDoge reactor: make sure you put the world path behind --world
14:46 reactor a full path?
14:46 reactor How come?
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14:47 sfan5 o/ EvergreenTree
14:47 GhostDoge reactor: full and relative to the binary should work
14:47 EvergreenTree \o
14:47 sfan5 EvergreenTree: http://soilnar.net
14:47 sfan5 meow
14:50 reactor GhostDoge: I see.
14:50 reactor Thank you!
14:50 iqualfragile !title
14:50 MinetestBot iqualfragile: 8Dromeda Games
14:51 sfan5 *irc stats updated*
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14:51 iqualfragile sfan5:
14:51 iqualfragile http://play2.soilnar.net/socket.js:11: ReferenceError: notification is not defined
14:52 sfan5 iqualfragile: try again just in case celeron55 already fixed this
14:53 iqualfragile nope
14:53 sfan5 hm
14:53 sfan5 I relayed the bug report to celeron55
14:53 sfan5 ( #8dromeda )
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15:15 * Jordach just avoided a heart attack
15:16 Jordach Total:-£79.97 <- read as bank balance
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15:21 us`0gb Jordach: That doesn't look good at all. What happened to all the money?
15:21 Jordach us`0gb, that's the stuff i bought earlier
15:22 Jordach actual total is ~£300
15:22 us`0gb Okay. I thought you were in the negative.
15:22 Jordach us`0gb, i didn't read!
15:23 us`0gb It happens. I fail to read things correctly all the time.
15:24 Jordach fun fact: i get higher scores on 2048 on my tablet than my desktop
15:25 us`0gb Jordach: Is 2048 that old Nintendo game?
15:25 Jordach http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/
15:28 tim_flatus I found MineTest in the Debian repository. I've never played MC.
15:32 iqualfragile hmm… reached 256
15:32 us`0gb Minetest in the Debian repository is outdated. You may want to compile it yourself, tim_flatus.
15:33 us`0gb Or use Debian Testing.
15:33 Jordach \o/ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T9Mcwz09sVED.png
15:34 us`0gb I don't know what's up with the version in Debian Stable, but it also sometimes won't accept my password.
15:34 us`0gb Seems to be a long since fixed bug though. I've never had it happen in modern versions.
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15:43 ShadowNinja crazyR: You got lucky on that first one.  Minet
15:44 ShadowNinja est only checks things on server steps and you must have triggered that just before a step.
15:45 ShadowNinja Most pings are 200+ ms.  As evidenced by the server list.
15:45 ShadowNinja sfan5: ?? Is one of ShadowBot's prefix strings.
15:46 ShadowNinja (Prefix characters are a separate setting)
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15:46 tim_flatus us`0gb: The version in Testing is ok
15:46 tim_flatus 0.4.9
15:47 us`0gb tim_flatus: Yeah, it's the version in Debian Stable that is outdated and sometimes buggy.
15:47 tim_flatus The build was updated less than a month ago.
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15:51 Issa2013 hello
15:51 Issa2013 i m on minetest 0.4.9
15:51 Issa2013 well i need some mod so i will used minetest_plus
15:52 Issa2013 i have added on my directory /home/mynmae/.minetest/game/minetest_plus
15:52 Issa2013 but i can see it when i played on minetest what is wrong please ?
15:53 GhostDoge it is games not game
15:55 reactor Is there a way to make saplings spawn trees immediately?
15:55 crazyR ShadowNinja: are you on about the ping being so low?
15:56 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:56 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (11ms)
15:56 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:56 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (11ms)
15:57 crazyR !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:57 MinetestBot 37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
15:57 crazyR was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
15:57 Issa2013 GhostDoge, :) yes it's better thanks but no monster on this game how add it ?
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15:58 GhostDoge ?? up 85.1.67.73
15:58 ShadowBot GhostDoge: 85.1.67.73 port 30000 is up (218ms)
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15:59 crazyR oops lol
15:59 crazyR but yeah as you can see it isnt luck lol
16:00 Issa2013 i found this https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack
16:00 Issa2013 i just need to add it like a mod ?
16:01 ShadowNinja crazyR: Hmmm, odd.  Maybe MTB is located very close.  Then again, SB's connection isn't all that great.
16:01 crazyR its a dedicate server located in france.
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16:08 shadowzone Hi
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16:09 shadowzone Another bot?
16:09 shadowzone Hi crazy
16:09 shadowzone *R
16:14 iqualfragile ok, Jordach, i can reliably reach 256, but afterwards it gets hard because 2 and 4 tiles spawn and you can not not move anything for a turn
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16:18 kahrl so glad I beat that game :D I have time to study again
16:19 rubenwardy Can someone close this? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?id=5087&amp;p=2
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16:20 * rubenwardy has a new version of the Node box editor, but can not be bothered to go through the release process
16:21 iqualfragile rubenwardy: git push, done
16:21 rubenwardy I need to make a windows build, and then make sure it works on both platforms.
16:22 rubenwardy It takes ~ an hour
16:22 iqualfragile rubenwardy: why not ignore windows for now?
16:22 iqualfragile nobody uses it anyways
16:22 rubenwardy true
16:23 Krock iqualfragile: nobody and me
16:24 iqualfragile Krock: there seem to be a virus on your hdd, please visit http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ to remove it
16:24 Krock I know that one from debian
16:24 Krock but for me: gfto, linux
16:24 Krock err typos
16:25 Jordach iqualfragile, suggest that to people who won't listen to your foss rants
16:25 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=136103#p136103
16:25 rubenwardy !title
16:25 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Editor] Node Box Editor [0.6.2 -!- properties and FPS limitation] (Page 9) — Minetest-related pro[...]
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16:42 rubenwardy Windows build added
16:42 PilzAdam Windows build removed
16:44 EvergreenTree PilzAdam: if people want to use windows, let them
16:44 PilzAdam EvergreenTree, wat?
16:44 rubenwardy lol
16:44 GhostDoge PilzAdam: let's make minetest not build for windows anymore ;)
16:45 EvergreenTree eh I think I jumped into the middle of a discussion in which I didn't know the context
16:45 EvergreenTree sorry
16:45 EvergreenTree :P
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16:47 rubenwardy windows build for the Node Box editor added, EvergreenTree.
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16:57 crazyR is there anyreason why chanserv would fail to op me on a channel i have registered
17:02 CWz what is the earliest version of Windows that minetest will run in?
17:11 PilzAdam crazyR, #freenode
17:15 rubenwardy new youtube video by me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6lByr9UaWM
17:15 rubenwardy Powder toy
17:15 rubenwardy a sand box game thing
17:16 sfan5 !title
17:16 MinetestBot sfan5: Powder toy - dual gas lighter - YouTube
17:16 PilzAdam rubenwardy, have you build a nuclear reactor yet?
17:16 rubenwardy not yet
17:16 rubenwardy Build an electron accelerator
17:17 PilzAdam the ones I build always melt the titanium arround them :-/
17:17 * rubenwardy has 11 youtube videos!
17:19 rubenwardy PilzAdam: Exotic material is awesome. And photons too.
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17:34 rubenwardy lol
17:42 * GhostDoge is downloading that powdry toy
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18:27 rubenwardy PilzAdam: nuclear reacter melt down :(
18:29 john_minetest hi
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18:31 Mikerhinos rubenwardy, does it explode and nuke half of the map ? lol
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18:34 Mikerhinos is there a way to render water minecraft-style ? If i put a water source on top of a 1 block tower it acts pretty weird, like falling on floor and waving around the tower, it won't make a fountain on top of it :s
18:37 werwerwer_ Mikerhinos : i suspect you just should turn "infinite liquid" on
18:40 Mikerhinos "finite liquid" ? but if i turn it off, i won't have weather and underground springs :s i wonder if it could be "liquid_relax", set to 2 by default
18:43 sfan5 test video recorded directly from game by pressing f8: https://mediacru.sh/odpFM0pusqOT
18:43 Mikerhinos maybe disabling liquid_relax so the water source remain a source
18:44 Mikerhinos sfan5, sweet
18:46 Mikerhinos blocks generating/display in MT are so fast...i remember in MC all the times that i could just see all caves/dungeons around me because it just rendered blocks soooo slow, i knew where to mine and find cool stuff lol
18:50 werwerwer_ actually that happens in minetest as well, in multiplayer, due to slow servers
18:52 Mikerhinos well i always had the problem in MC, solo or my own server, and in MT, never
18:53 Mikerhinos in MC when you just run straight forward, sometimes blocks weren't generated until i was 3m from it...it was very annoying
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19:05 Mikerhinos world edit schematics from MC and MT are compatible ?
19:06 sfan5 no
19:07 Calinou MC generation has no issues
19:09 Jordach it depends on hardware
19:11 Calinou with decent CPU and decent HDD, no problem
19:14 Mikerhinos Calinou, bah franchement la différence entre MC et MT chez moi est flagrante, même en framerate et distance de vue mais bon c'est plus le rapport windows/directX et ubuntu/openGL qui doit jouer pour ça vu que MC j'y jouais sur windows
19:15 Mikerhinos sorry for the frog language lol
19:16 Calinou je ne joue plus à Minecraft depuis janvier
19:16 Calinou donc, OSEF ;)
19:17 Mikerhinos j'y joue plus depuis que j'ai découvert (un peu par hasard) MT donc OSEF aussi mdr
19:20 Mikerhinos back to Shakespear, lol, anyone knows what value to change in minetest.conf to enable "fountains" ? Like make a tower of 1 block wide and 4 blocks height, and put a water source on top of it and the water just flows infinite from the 4 sides to make a fountain ?
19:20 Calinou finite_liquid = 1
19:20 Calinou ?
19:20 Calinou [beware: may discover exact value of pi]
19:21 Mikerhinos i already have finite = 1 and it's too realistic : when i put water source, it just falls on ground like if i was pouring a real bucket of water on it :s
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19:22 Mikerhinos wait no, finite_liquid was "false" by default and i changed it to "true", not 1
19:22 Mikerhinos that may be my problem
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19:39 Mikerhinos ok so finite_water has to be false to make fountains, too bad for the weather and underground springs :(
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19:40 GhostDoge for what do you need weather?
19:41 CraigyDavi_ There has been a diamond block house built on my server. I have no idea how they got so many resources considering they joined only a few days ago. Are noclip functions stored client side? It's the only idea I have...
19:42 Eater4 Does anyone know how to set a server password
19:42 Eater4 ?
19:42 Krock CraigyDavi_, Give me a moment. I'll explain.
19:43 GhostDoge Eater4: look in minetest.conf.example
19:43 sfan5 Eater4: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/master/minetest.conf.example#L277-278
19:43 sfan5 RTFM before asking
19:43 CraigyDavi_ Eater4: default_password = whatever
19:43 CraigyDavi_ Ok thanks Krock
19:44 Krock CraigyDavi_, item_drop and builtin item do not like each other. So if you punch one item in a server "tick", and at the same time, the item_drop tries to collect it, then it gets doubled because they're not enough fast to remove the item.
19:45 CraigyDavi_ I don't use item_drop mod. Only builtin_item on its own.
19:46 Krock Then it must be picked up by a double-click at once. Or the use hacked clients. Or there's some crafting which allows infinite diamonds
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19:46 Mikerhinos GhostDoge, just for fun, it makes water freeze or turn into snow on winter
19:47 CraigyDavi_ So if you double-click items they sometime duplicate?
19:47 Krock If I had an extreme lag, I would test it.
19:48 Krock Doesn't seem to work with a lag of 3.5s
19:48 CraigyDavi_ I installed the replacer mod. I'm not intirely sure what it does...maybe that could be a cause. I installed it a couple days ago.
19:49 Mikerhinos do you have elevator mod ?
19:49 Krock The replacer mod allows replacing nodes with dirt or other things. Well, I cancelled testing it after 10 hours, after I discovered the lava abuse
19:50 Krock elevator or travelnet? that's the question.
19:50 CraigyDavi_ Ah i see. probably not a cause then
19:50 CraigyDavi_ Maybe noclip. Do you know if its stored client side? People could just fly down and mine diamonds easily.
19:51 Krock Minetest should check for invalid data and reset the players to the real position.
19:52 Krock Wtf? why am i soo formal now??
19:52 CraigyDavi_ Thats a part of anticheat functions?
19:52 Mikerhinos i have travelnet, i can make elevators, and it's pretty easy to find diamonds with it : just mine under your feet until y-500 mini and wait for a cave, rince and repeat. But a full house made of diamond...pretty suspect.
19:53 CraigyDavi_ disable_anticheat = true Well I have this inabled...
19:53 Krock LOL?
19:53 Krock Ehem...would be cool if set to false
19:54 Krock Mikerhinos, beware of lava
19:54 CraigyDavi_ Yeah I think ill do that. Thanks.
19:55 werwerwer_ CraigyDavi_ : can't you look in logs how that house was built?
19:56 Krock (yes, "player xy dug block z at position xyz" could be helpful)
19:58 CraigyDavi_ yep they have got it the normal way. Mining diamonds
19:58 Mikerhinos Krock, i died so many times today because of that lol, until i got tired and activate fly mode when building my elevator serie lol
19:59 CraigyDavi_ They mined them. Crafted and placed the blocks.
19:59 Mikerhinos 9 diamonds for a block, mini 100 blocks for a house...they mined around 1000 diamonds in a few days ?
19:59 werwerwer_ some duper on some server told me he can produce infinite diamond blocks if he had stack of them. donnow details
19:59 Krock Mikerhinos, how about a 1x2 digging? one is 2 steps deeper than the other, so you see if something omes
19:59 Krock *comes
20:00 Mikerhinos Krock, i would consume twice pickaxes lol. I hate cheating and flying is, but i got tired of falling in lava caves lol
20:01 Krock try setting "mg_flags = no_lava_you_stupid_mapgen!!!
20:03 Mikerhinos i like lava, not my feet, lol
20:04 Krock JPRuehmann: 26/60 posts are "link dead" or "thanks"
20:04 Krock WTF???
20:05 CraigyDavi_ haha yeah thats true
20:06 Krock 63 posts so far
20:06 CraigyDavi_ R.I.P Omploader.
20:07 * Krock R.I.P megaupload
20:07 Mikerhinos a thing that really disturb me though is mining steel (iron+coal irl) or making bronze with steel+copper (tin+copper irl), my kids are playing with me and i find it very cool if they can learn some things with MT, but learning wrong things when all real materials are available... :(
20:08 CraigyDavi_ yeah that was a shame. Now they just have MEGA
20:10 Krock The kids think now, a sequoia tree grows within 0.46353s
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20:11 Mikerhinos days are way shorter than IRL they can see it quickly
20:13 Mikerhinos i had to search the internet to find how to make bronze in MT, because i was trying to melt tin+copper
20:14 Krock *cough* crafting guides
20:14 Mikerhinos bronze is an alloy made to be soft, steel is made to be harder than iron, yes i have craft guide mod now, because of that
20:15 Krock bronze is stronger than steel in MT, kinda strange, eh? :3
20:15 Mikerhinos totally...
20:19 Mikerhinos a friend of me is a blacksmith, he makes beautiful damascus knives for VIPs in France, and my kids play MT, we love the game, but these are some errors that shouldn't exist, moreover when all elements are already available :s
20:24 iqualfragile Eater4: found out yet?
20:25 werwerwer_ speaking of materials, what irritate me most is mithril
20:25 werwerwer_ everyone knows it's lightweight and strong as hell IRL
20:25 werwerwer_ should be perfect for swords. but in minetest mithril swords does no damage
20:35 crazyR sfan5: you here? for some reason your fork of the mapper mod is outputting a plain black image. not sure if other forks do the same
20:37 sfan5 crazyR: try "git reset HEAD~2 --hard"
20:37 sfan5 then compile again and try again
20:37 sfan5 if it works I screwed shit up
20:38 Mikerhinos lol
20:41 Eater4 Found out what?
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21:05 lordawe hello
21:06 lordawe can anybody help me with mg - experimental mapgen? I am having problems with generating villages
21:06 lordawe ty
21:07 PilzAdam lordawe, what exactly?
21:08 lordawe look, my villages looks like this: http://pure-awe.com/screenshot_7674021.png
21:09 lordawe no buildings at all
21:09 lordawe i have nothing in minetest.conf related to this mod
21:09 PilzAdam I think sfan5 could help you
21:09 sfan5 lordawe: post log output
21:09 lordawe i tried to create several new worlds
21:09 lordawe k
21:10 PilzAdam ("post" means use a pastebin)
21:11 lordawe http://pastebin.com/5Enjg6Hb
21:12 lordawe thank you guys
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21:26 lordawe nothing?
21:27 crazyR sfan5: this is taking a really long time to create the map. been about 15 mins so far and no output yet.
21:27 crazyR sfan5: its just finished generating, and this time i got a nice white image instead lol
21:27 sfan5 wut
21:27 sfan5 so it's not my fault
21:28 sfan5 lordawe: try disabling plants
21:29 * sfan5 purrs and goes to bed
21:29 lordawe i am trying it
21:34 lordawe sfan5, it works in a new world where only mg mod is enabled, so I try to do something with it
21:34 lordawe thanks
21:37 lordawe thank you all. gn8
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22:12 Mikerhinos night everyone :)
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