IRC log for #minetest, 2014-03-09

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00:14	basilgohar	Okay, well, technicn:chainsaw does define it's own handle_node_drops callback that it switches in when it's working, but that doesn't exactly explain why sometimes it goes into my inventory and sometimes does not...
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00:49	spillz	!tell sapier android app is buggy on galaxy note 2 but it works. Weird solid colored icons for move and jump, cannot break anything. I like jump button placement but not everyone will.
00:49	MinetestBot	spillz: I'll pass that on when sapier is around
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03:29	stormchaser3000	hi
03:29	stormchaser3000	is someone who knows how to use msvc++/visual studio on here?
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03:50	ShadowNinja	~give stormchaser3000 ask
03:50	ShadowBot	stormchaser3000: Don't ask to ask, or if anyone is here or alive or uses something. Just ask your question and let's get moving along, O.K? Thanks.
03:51	NekoGloop	ooooh give me something too :3
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04:10	ShadowNinja	~give NekoGloop heart
04:10	ShadowBot	NekoGloop: 04â™¥
04:10	ShadowNinja	:-)
04:10	NekoGloop	:3
04:10	ShadowNinja	~kitten NekoGloop
04:10	* ShadowBot	hands NekoGloop a kitten
04:10	stormchaser3000	necko
04:10	stormchaser3000	do you know how to use msvc++
04:11	stormchaser3000	to compile minetest
04:12	ShadowNinja	stormchaser3000: I believe sapier, BlockMen, and xyz have done that.
04:23	stormchaser3000	ah ok
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05:22	Tesseract	!op
05:22	Tesseract	~op
05:22	Tesseract	On the small end of a netsplit...
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07:40	sfan5	meow
07:40	sfan5	hi everyone
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08:26	ShadowNinja	sfan5: sqlite> select count(*) from (select distinct nick from sender); --> 4609 :-D
08:30	ShadowNinja	That's just under a year of text logs converted to an SQLite3 database.
08:32	ShadowNinja	(2013-04-24 -- 2014-03-09)
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08:38	sfan5	nice
08:46	ShadowNinja	sfan5: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/SupyLogToSQL
08:47	ShadowNinja	Runs at about 50,000 messages per second.
08:48	ShadowNinja	Which means this channel took only a few seconds to convert.
08:49	ShadowNinja	This actually isn't the biggest one, #minetestInchraNet is bigger by an order of magnitude, even though it's newer.
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09:29	Krock	Hello world.
09:31	Calinou	hello C#
09:34	Krock	sup?
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09:39	Calinou	More Blocks update, please test, report issues at https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/issues
09:43	reactor	Elo.
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09:47	Jordach	wow
09:47	Jordach	front port headphone jack bustedc
09:49	Jordach	but it also did something out of place; by playing audio channels 3 and 4
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09:51	reactor	No hello for everyhuman?
09:53	reactor	K.
09:53	Calinou	hi john_minetest
09:54	Calinou	Jordach, use the jack on the mainboard: no coil whine
09:54	Calinou	and better quality sometimes
09:54	reactor	Front audio/usb connectors are one of the inventions by lazy fat people
09:55	reactor	Pointless and fault-prone.
09:59	Jordach	WAT?!
09:59	MinetestBot	GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix race condition on exit to menu 16a028dd6b 2014-03-09T11:01:13+01:00 http://git.io/zmm8hA
10:00	Jordach	by configuring the fan, i managed to cool it 5 centigrade
10:00	Jordach	and it's dropping
10:00	Jordach	wtf
10:02	Calinou	centigrades? O_o
10:02	Calinou	Jordach, tip: slow down fans the most you can
10:02	Jordach	Calinou, huh?
10:03	reactor	Unless you need a silent system and performance is not critical, do not slow them down.
10:04	Jordach	Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/h06ojv4.png
10:05	Calinou	reactor, ...
10:05	Calinou	slower fans = better noise/temperature ratio, (slightly) lower power usage, you use them slower
10:06	Calinou	Jordach, that thing looks like a airplane cockpit...
10:06	Jordach	Calinou, MSI's EFI allows you to edit it while in an OS
10:06	Jordach	which is fucking amazing
10:06	reactor	that looks like stupid Chinese software*
10:07	reactor	Candy bottons.
10:07	reactor	s/ott/utt/
10:07	reactor	Who cares about fans' lifespan.
10:07	reactor	They're cheaper than electronics.
10:07	reactor	A lot cheaper.
10:11	MinetestBot	GIT: CiaranG commited to minetest/minetest: Correct misleading detached inventory error message 5ce3f8f7b7 2014-03-09T11:16:09+01:00 http://git.io/cdpFgw
10:11	MinetestBot	GIT: CiaranG commited to minetest/minetest: Update ABM object counts when triggers add objects 0643cef09a 2014-03-09T11:13:44+01:00 http://git.io/Uk9sfw
10:14	Calinou	<reactor> Who cares about fans' lifespan.
10:14	Calinou	people not willing to waste money and resources, and time to replace them
10:14	Calinou	<Jordach> Calinou, MSI's EFI allows you to edit it while in an OS
10:14	Calinou	<Jordach> which is fucking amazing
10:14	Calinou	all mainboards can do that... on Windows
10:15	reactor	Pff.
10:15	reactor	You waste more money and resources by wearing your electronics.
10:15	reactor	As mentioned above, fans are a lot cheaper to replace than processors.
10:16	reactor	...unless the processor has outlived its usefullness.
10:17	sfan5	Jordach: Y U STILL USE WINDUMB?
10:19	sfan5	archlinux is really nice
10:20	sfan5	but I think it is unusable as main system
10:20	sfan5	too many chances to break things
10:21	Jordach	sfan5, SSSTTTTEEEEAAAAMM!
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10:21	sfan5	Jordach: S/M/N/
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10:22	sfan5	that's not what I said
10:23	reactor	Linux breaks things*
10:23	sfan5	chances to do somthing with x != x does break things
10:23	sfan5	your whole system
10:24	reactor	Linux is messy.
10:24	sfan5	reactor: Windows breaks even more things
10:24	reactor	True that.
10:24	reactor	(to sfan5)
10:24	reactor	john_minetest: it's less messy.
10:24	sfan5	yeah
10:24	* sfan5	throws john_minetest at john_minetest
10:24	reactor	john_minetest: hamsters should.
10:25	sfan5	windows is like a whell
10:25	sfan5	wheel*
10:25	sfan5	1. Everything works perfectly
10:25	sfan5	2. Everything breaks horribly
10:25	sfan5	3. -> 1
10:26	reactor	sfan5: heheheh.
10:26	sfan5	!title
10:26	reactor	Totally like that.
10:26	MinetestBot	sfan5: BEST EVER O Fortuna - Carl Orff Carmina Burana - YouTube
10:26	reactor	When it works, you don't need to look under the hood.
10:26	* sfan5	throws vorbis at john_minetest
10:27	reactor	When it breaks, it breaks so terribly looking under the hood is pointless.
10:27	sfan5	reactor: and when it doesn't you're fucked because you can't look under the hood
10:27	reactor	Or that.
10:27	reactor	And other systems require you to know more or less underlying stuff to use them.
10:28	reactor	If something breaks, you have something to dig.
10:28	reactor	Also. Microsoft tech support is the worst ever.
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10:29	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/I2bR386.png
10:29	reactor	john_minetest: IRC, mailing lists. Eh
10:30	reactor	john_minetest: what's the point?
10:31	sfan5	that is because MS ha cash
10:31	sfan5	has*
10:31	reactor	Official support that is useless to call.
10:32	reactor	Or community support that actually works.
10:32	reactor	Yeah. "We're already rich, fuck cutsomers!"
10:32	reactor	Community of hamsters?
10:32	reactor	I gotta see that!
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10:33	Jordach	lol
10:34	Jordach	my refresh rate is higher than YT's player
10:35	Jordach	huh, my monitor does 75hz
10:35	PenguinDad	what?
10:36	Jordach	PenguinDad, i can literally see frame updates
10:37	reactor	The video itself is probably 10 FPS.
10:43	Krock	sfan5, would you be so kind and compile your version of the c++ minetest mapper for win32?
10:43	sfan5	sure
10:43	Krock	2nd day I've tried now to compile that thing, failed everytime
10:45	Krock	(well, I was able to compile the xxd binary but that was just one file)
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10:55	specing	I found a stack of 59900 torches in proller's bones on Road 0.o
10:57	sfan5	WHY IS EVERY FUCKING BUILD SYSTEM RUBBISH?
10:57	reactor	poudriere is not.
10:58	sfan5	why the fuck does libgd assume I have my libpng includes in /usr/include EVEN WHEN I'M CROSSCOMPILING?
10:59	Krock	+1
11:03	sfan5	I don't have libpng ready so you will probably only be able to output .bmp
11:04	sfan5	WHAT THE FUCK LIBTOOL
11:04	sfan5	JUST LINK TO SHIT
11:04	Jordach	GOOOD. GOOOOODDDD.. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU.
11:04	* sfan5	flips Jordach
11:05	sfan5	libtool refuses to link to a .dll.a just because of the fucking file extension
11:05	sfan5	this is driving me mad
11:06	proller	specing, i'm cheater ;)
11:06	proller	specing, TNT mod !
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11:09	daspork	I wonder how well the quake software renderer does in Vbox today
11:12	reactor	john_cephalopoda: some of them new laptops eh?
11:12	reactor	I wonder why would they do that.
11:12	reactor	You can change it in its firmware settings.
11:12	reactor	s/it/that/
11:12	reactor	Likely.
11:14	daspork	yeah i have that problem on both my laptop and my keyboard I use on my linux box. Just have to push a value to the sysfs or w/e at startup. not sure if thats the way its suppose to be done but it works.
11:15	specing	proller: I have git diff open
11:16	daspork	yeah I had to install some software from the support site to get mine to default to f keys in win 7
11:16	specing	proller: What do I do with the 1/3 chance of drops disappearing? Can I remove that? Players are penalized enough by crafting tnt and placing it
11:17	proller	can you make it adjustable ?
11:21	sfan5	wow what
11:21	sfan5	gcc cares about white space
11:21	sfan5	â€˜>>â€™ should be â€˜> >â€™ within a nested template argument list
11:21	sfan5	which bullshit is this
11:21	sfan5	this compiles fine with gcc (linux) and clang
11:21	sfan5	but no
11:22	sfan5	mingw-gcc has to complain7
11:22	sfan5	:-/
11:22	sfan5	s/7/
11:22	Garmine	haha
11:22	reactor	Windows eh.
11:27	specing	proller: yes
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11:34	reactor	!title
11:34	MinetestBot	reactor: Document isn't HTML
11:34	reactor	That's it.
11:35	reactor	!title ftp://127.0.0.1
11:35	MinetestBot	reactor: Can't connect to ftp://127.0.0.1
11:36	sfan5	reactor: 1) that won't work 2) as if I would run an open ftp server on my vp
11:36	sfan5	s
11:36	sfan5	Krock: shit refuses to work, sorry
11:37	sfan5	john_cephalopoda: stahp posting bad puns
11:47	Krock	ok, thanks for trying anyway, sfan5
11:47	sfan5	Krock: I am currently trying agian
11:47	sfan5	again*
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11:54	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:54	reactor	Ehlo.
11:57	sfan5	Krock: ok, I give up now
11:57	sfan5	libgd just won't do it how I like
11:57	Krock	Okay
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11:58	reactor	sfan5: are you compiling the program that draws the top view?
11:58	sfan5	yes
11:58	reactor	I had to change a couple things in the makefile, in order to get it to compile.
11:58	reactor	It was some time ago.
11:58	sfan5	https://github.com/sfan5/minetest-mapper-cpp
11:58	sfan5	please check if that still applies
11:59	SirDigby	i did the other day
11:59	SirDigby	and i was getting a lot of errors
12:00	FreeFull	The map format probably changed
12:00	sfan5	pastebin them
12:00	SirDigby	i was on Debian testing
12:00	SirDigby	i don't have it now
12:00	sfan5	FreeFull: the mapper works with very recent worlds
12:00	reactor	sfan5: what is the error?
12:00	FreeFull	Ok
12:00	reactor	I mean, the message.
12:00	SirDigby	it was draw errors
12:01	sfan5	reactor: message?
12:01	reactor	Yes. The error message while compiling.
12:01	reactor	Or running.
12:01	SirDigby	oh no
12:01	SirDigby	running
12:01	sfan5	reactor: why are you asking me for an error message?
12:01	reactor	You said it failed to build?
12:01	sfan5	I did?
12:02	SirDigby	it builds fine
12:02	reactor	It fails to run?
12:02	reactor	To find libgd?
12:02	sfan5	reactor: you probably mean SirDigby, not me
12:02	reactor	Linked wrongly?
12:02	SirDigby	it runs but
12:02	SirDigby	you get draw errors
12:03	reactor	I might have missed something then.
12:03	SirDigby	its all grey
12:03	sfan5	can you reproduce it?
12:03	SirDigby	no quick bar
12:04	SirDigby	lol
12:04	SirDigby	i don't even have the same distro
12:04	SirDigby	this was on #! testing
12:05	sfan5	can you reproduce it on your current distro?
12:05	SirDigby	i'm on mint but
12:05	SirDigby	hold on
12:06	SirDigby	oh one more note
12:06	SirDigby	i was on a 32 base
12:06	SirDigby	now i;m on 64
12:06	SirDigby	if that matters
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12:07	SirDigby	so..
12:08	SirDigby	you know what
12:09	SirDigby	if no one else said anything about it
12:09	SirDigby	then it must be my nub goof
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12:53	Jordach	FUCK
12:53	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/pzXo1NX.png
12:55	Jordach	Windows doesn't even have a time remaining on it
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13:11	Zeg9	Hello
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14:01	w_laenger	hi
14:02	SirDigby	oh
14:02	SirDigby	hi2u
14:03	w_laenger	I get an error when I want to join my main map http://pastebin.com/Xy5uJLaD
14:07	w_laenger	I did a screenshot before I quit because of a spammy error message
14:09	w_laenger	http://ubuntuone.com/65MLnLPcu8NjtYpVby2mDm
14:09	w_laenger	maybe it's caused by a tunnel boring machine
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14:11	w_laenger	minetest --info tells not really more http://pastebin.com/QYrzyrtb
14:12	w_laenger	ERROR[ServerThread]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: createSector(): pos. over limit
14:14	w_laenger	I disabled all mods, joined the server, left it, enabled all mods and joined it and the problem was solved.
14:25	w_laenger	http://ubuntuone.com/3o15glVXH1kcqSVKoJ9s7X
14:26	w_laenger	I think the marble tiling looks good with bumpmapping, fxaa and anisotropic filtering.
14:26	w_laenger	I didn't use bilinear filtering
14:28	w_laenger	I have it as .swf, too http://ubuntuone.com/2HAqeyDjBdd3lqkhmLqvHW
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16:12	markveidemanis	Hi!
16:15	RealBadAngel	hi
16:18	* markveidemanis	has spent a while making a map
16:18	markveidemanis	http://marktest.co.uk/2014/03/minetest-marktwain-server-sneek-peek/
16:24	sfan5	markveidemanis: stop advertising your site here
16:24	Jordach	s/site/shirt
16:24	Jordach	shit*
16:24	markveidemanis	Follow the link there is screenshots
16:24	sfan5	markveidemanis: did you understand?
16:24	sfan5	do NOT advertise your site here
16:24	markveidemanis	I am not advertising my fucking site
16:24	Jordach	OUT. NOW.]#
16:25	sfan5	http://minecraft.net
16:25	sfan5	http://minecraft.net
16:25		sfan5 was kicked by Jordach: you deserved that, honestly
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16:25	sfan5	Jordach: I AM TRYING TO make an example
16:25	Jordach	sfan5, BOFH
16:25	markveidemanis	I wanted to show what I had made
16:26	sfan5	show the screenshots directly then
16:26	sfan5	I do not fucking care whether your blog post is THAT interesting
16:26	sfan5	just don't post a link to your site here
16:26	markveidemanis	In strict terms advertising is the domain name (http://minecraft.net) whereas a link should be considered acceptable (http://pornhub.com/minetest)
16:26	Jordach	fuck this
16:27	Jordach	executive descision
16:27	sfan5	we define out own rules
16:27	sfan5	our*
16:27	* markveidemanis	tries to get a direct link
16:27	sfan5	also with showing screenshots directly does NOT mean http://myfucking.site/screenshots/127.png
16:28	Jordach	imgur or GTFO
16:28	jsnmtth	I'm not so sure your "acceptable" link is apropriate either.
16:29	markveidemanis	well...
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16:33	markveidemanis	well fuck that then if you are so critical
16:34	reactor	!title
16:34	MinetestBot	reactor: Can't connect to http://myfucking.site/screenshots/127.png
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16:38	rubenwardy	Hi all
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16:39	Calinou	hi
16:41	harrison	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aa1aQCzBy8
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16:45	ShadowNinja	sfan5: That GCC behavior is correct. The C++11 standard fixes that.
16:45	sfan5	it's still bullshit
16:45	sfan5	!title
16:45	MinetestBot	sfan5: 1000 fractals on the roof - YouTube
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16:47	EvergreenTree	o/
16:47	* EvergreenTree	taps Jordach on the shoulder with a fuzzy kitten
16:48	Jordach	ello
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16:58	hmmmm	wtf
16:58	hmmmm	how come myfucking.site resolves to localhost?
16:58	hmmmm	god damn twc
17:01	markveidemanis	.site
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17:02	markveidemanis	May be for you like .home or .local
17:02	markveidemanis	http://dotsite.org/ I was wrong
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17:40	ShadowNinja	"...glad to see the improvemente that you allowed ShadowNinja to make." I need permission? :-) https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=132450#p132450
17:40	ShadowNinja	s/ente/ents/
17:52	sfan5	ShadowNinja: inocundom always formulates his forum posts weirdly
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17:57	Jordach	ShadowBot apparently just kicked others in the other #minetest for normal talking
17:57	Jordach	not risking it here too
17:58	Jordach	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7062987/
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18:10	PilzAdam	sfan5, grrr.... https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8767
18:11	PilzAdam	stop posting wrong statements and the closing a topic
18:12	Jordach	as if a magic moderator fixed it
18:12	Jordach	;)
18:13	PilzAdam	I generally dislike closing of "solved" topics; others may have further questions or more information to add
18:14	PilzAdam	Jordach, ShadowBot lags once in a while, then it randomly kicks people
18:15	Jordach	and then I thought the Linux Spotify client was bugged, the windows one just shit itself
18:15	Jordach	just fucking segfaulted on me just because i changed a headset setting
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18:28	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Ugh...
18:29	Jordach	ShadowNinja, get a better VPS
18:29	PilzAdam	get a better internet
18:30	sfan5	PilzAdam: that statement is not wrong
18:30	sfan5	g
18:30	sfan5	s/g//
18:30	sfan5	it only implies that the person uses the signs mod
18:35	ShadowNinja	Jordach: I don't have a VPS. ShadowBot is hosted on lmartin92's dedicated server. Which makes it especially odd since it's connected to a local server.
18:39	ShadowNinja	~ping
18:39	ShadowNinja	Now it's fine on IN, but not FN...
18:40	ShadowNinja	FN's had issues recently, so I blame it. ;-)
18:40	markveidemanis	How do i turn off the visualization thing in worldedit?
18:41	ShadowNinja	markveidemanis: You don't.
18:41	ShadowNinja	markveidemanis: Unless you modify the code.
18:41	markveidemanis	...
18:42	markveidemanis	the annoying black mesh
18:42	ShadowNinja	(or I missed a commit addong an option.
18:42	ShadowNinja	adding*
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18:57	sfan5	markveidemanis: how is that annoying?
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18:59	w_laenger	hi
18:59	NakedFury	hello
19:00	w_laenger	I got the error again http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-03-09#i_3612427
19:01	w_laenger	when I join without mods I'm teleported to ca -200000 and it lags there
19:03	rubenwardy	lmar
19:03	rubenwardy	oops
19:03	sfan5	w_laenger: /teleport 0,0,0
19:07	w_laenger	I know
19:07	w_laenger	but the error happened again
19:08	w_laenger	my mods (I marked out the mesecons stuff that it's not too much to read) http://ubuntuone.com/4yDcCF9JT2jLZL4QNi0QwI
19:11	w_laenger	maybe it's a bug of the teleporter mod
19:11	w_laenger	it might be caused by bumpmapping
19:12	sfan5	why would it be caused by bumpmapping?
19:13	sfan5	bumpmapping is a pure-graphics feature
19:14	w_laenger	I know, but I thought it's a bit weird to use it for an animated teleporter texture
19:17	w_laenger	at first it spams with a update listener warning http://ubuntuone.com/65MLnLPcu8NjtYpVby2mDm
19:18	w_laenger	I rejoin that it stops but I get this error http://pastebin.com/QYrzyrtb
19:19	w_laenger	then I disable all mods, join the server, leave it, enabled all mods and join it and the problem was solved.
20:10	EvergreenTree	party! I'm on the top 25 list on irc stats
20:10	EvergreenTree	:P
20:10	* sfan5	flips EvergreenTree
20:11	EvergreenTree	Do you mean flip off or am I actually upside down right now?
20:11	EvergreenTree	:P
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20:12	EvergreenTree	uÊop ÇpÄ±sdn É¯É Ä± ssÇnb Ä± 'sdooÉ¥Ê
20:12	EvergreenTree	×Ÿo×Ÿd
20:12	EvergreenTree	If only your keyboard could do that if it were physically upside down
20:13	EvergreenTree	that would be cool
20:13	EvergreenTree	that would be a fun project
20:13	EvergreenTree	:P
20:18	sfan5	EvergreenTree: that was not a proper 'q'
20:19	EvergreenTree	?
20:19	sfan5	upside_down(q) != b
20:19	sfan5	ah wait
20:19	sfan5	I mean g
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21:48	Jordach_	btw, sfan5, EvergreenTree: more to this post than meets the eye ;)
21:48	Jordach_	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=132485#p132485
21:49	sfan5	meow
21:52	Jordach_	dammit Evergreen
21:55	PilzAdam	wtf signature: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3115
21:55	Jordach_	you should see his email
21:56	PilzAdam	you have a tail
21:56	ShadowNinja	... wow.
21:57	* Jordach_	has a new part of the signiture which is invisible
21:57	Jordach_	it's only on mine :)
21:57	PilzAdam	yay
21:57	PilzAdam	gimme my point
21:57	* Jordach_	claps
21:57	Jordach_	not many people will highlight the sig
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22:04	Jordach_	ppsh
22:04	Jordach_	i'm hammering the CPU with blender sims, and it's not even hot
22:07	Jordach_	can't touch this!
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22:11	Jordach_	http://imgur.com/gallery/IVYHl
22:11	Jordach_	BRING IT.
22:16	Jordach_	bullshi
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22:50	ShadowNinja	!op
22:51		bekrux was kicked by ShadowNinja: PM if not a bot
22:51	iqualfragile	ShadowNinja: wat?
22:52	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: freenode has some spybots, see ##botmonitoring.
22:54	iqualfragile	what would they want to find out?
22:54	iqualfragile	when who comes online/goes offline? this is a logged channel
22:54	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: Good question. :-)
22:58	Jordach	i don't know what to say anymore
22:58	Jordach	http://imgur.com/4WrGEhC
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23:01	iqualfragile	Jordach: 873? filthy casual
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23:10	thefamilygrog66	howdy folks
23:11	thefamilygrog66	Any ideas what might cause this error?
23:11	thefamilygrog66	ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL
23:13	ShadowNinja	thefamilygrog66: I believe that was fixed...
23:13	thefamilygrog66	Hmm...
23:13	ShadowNinja	sapier's gone, so I'm not sure.
23:13	thefamilygrog66	I'm trying to log onto a server using 0.4.9, and receiving a bazillion of these errors - see nothing but sky
23:13	thefamilygrog66	It does the same with 0.4.8
23:14	thefamilygrog66	0.4.7 won't even log onto the server
23:14	thefamilygrog66	Incompatibility issues or something.
23:16	ShadowNinja	thefamilygrog66: Yeah... 0.4.9 is very unstable. (I was sleeping when it was released)
23:16	thefamilygrog66	Literally sleeping? :)
23:17	ShadowNinja	Yep.
23:18	ShadowNinja	Had I been around I would have oposed a release for stability reasons.
23:18	thefamilygrog66	Ahh, gotcha.
23:18	thefamilygrog66	I'll try logging on using my linux box, to see if that makes any difference.
23:18	thefamilygrog66	(guessing it's a windows build thing)
23:19	ShadowNinja	The 0.4.9 protocol os broken.
23:19	ShadowNinja	is*
23:19	ShadowNinja	At least on the client, not sure about the server.
23:21	Exio4	[20:11:53] <thefamilygrog66> ERROR[main]: draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL
23:21	Exio4	that is not a "problem"
23:21	Exio4	it is just a not yet initialized structure at the moment of calling draw_hotbar
23:22	Exio4	the problem w/ servers is known
23:22	ShadowNinja	Yes, it normally continues fine.
23:22	thefamilygrog66	That error just floods indefinitely
23:22	thefamilygrog66	Only on certain servers though, it seems
23:23	Exio4	why do you still have OP ShadowNinja?
23:23	ShadowNinja	Exio4: Waiting for another.
23:24	ShadowNinja	~ping
23:24	PilzAdam	pong~
23:24	Exio4	install "okick.pl"
23:24	Exio4	py*
23:24	Exio4	er
23:24	Exio4	chanop.py
23:24	Exio4	xD
23:24	Exio4	wtf i'm writing
23:24	ShadowNinja	How hasn't she timed out yet?...
23:25	ShadowNinja	ShadowBot: ping
23:25	ShadowNinja	???
23:26	ShadowNinja	Works in PM...
23:26	ShadowNinja	... args=('ShadowBot', '#minetest', 'Cannot send to channel'))
23:28	Exio4	lol
23:28	ShadowNinja	~ircquote privmsg chanserv :unban #minetest
23:29	ShadowNinja	Grrr...
23:29	Exio4	what client did you use?
23:29	Exio4	the fuck you are trying to do though
23:30	Exio4	~ircquote mode #minetest -q ShadowBot!@
23:30	ShadowBot	Exio4: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:30	Exio4	:D
23:30	khonkhortisan	"Shut up? You can't tell me to shut up!"
23:30	ShadowBot	pong
23:30	ShadowNinja	There!
23:31	ShadowNinja	Hmmm.
23:31	ShadowNinja	~deop ShadowBot
23:31	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: Error: I cowardly refuse to deop myself. If you really want me deopped, tell me to op you and then deop me yourself.
23:31	ShadowNinja	!deop ShadowBot
23:31	ShadowNinja	~ping
23:31	ShadowNinja	Huh, what is blocking it?
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23:33	Exio4	the quiet...
23:34	Exio4	[20:28:14] -- [#minetest] ShadowBot!@ messo a tacere da Jordach (~Jordachunaffiliated/jordach) il mer, 05 mar 2014 13:32:24
23:34	Exio4	i told you...
23:34	ShadowNinja	Oh, derp, I didn't look high enough.
23:34	ShadowNinja	!op ShadowBot
23:35	ShadowNinja	~unquiet ShadowBot
23:35	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Why the +q?
23:35	Exio4	what irc client are you using ShadowNinja?
23:35	ShadowNinja	Exio4: Quassel.
23:35	Exio4	true
23:35	Exio4	you don't have proper channel management scripts
23:36	ShadowNinja	(With QuasselDroid connected)
23:36	Exio4	(chanop-like)
23:36	Exio4	weechat, with weechat-android connected ;)
23:36	ShadowNinja	Exio4: I don't have ANY scripts.
23:36	Exio4	you don't have any scripting capability w/ that client, do you?
23:36	ShadowNinja	Nope. :-\|
23:37	Exio4	i couldn't use a client that shitty for more than 15 minutes
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23:39	ShadowNinja	Hehe. I haven't needed scripts yet. But adding scripting support is a TODO item.
23:40	VanessaE	YOu haven't needed scripts because you never used kaeza's mt_irc script in xchat before :)
23:41	Exio4	ShadowNinja: you haven't needed any scripts because you never used a proper one
23:41	VanessaE	that made life with minetest IRC bots 10x more bearable :P
23:41	VanessaE	once you use that and then go back to raw chat over there on inchra.... it looks very messy by comparison
23:44	EvergreenTree	Could you provide a link to that script?
23:44	EvergreenTree	sounds useful
23:44	EvergreenTree	I use quassel, but I can use xchat for just inchra
23:46	ShadowNinja	EvergreenTree: Mt-irc-tools or some such on kaeza's GH page.
23:47	Exio4	ShadowNinja: how many scripts have you sed in IRC?
23:47	Exio4	used*
23:47	Exio4	all the shit that a bot could do, locally and without lag
23:47	ShadowNinja	Exio4: A SASL script and bancheck.
23:48	Exio4	sasl script? weechat supports it natively, never needed one
23:48	Exio4	and i never used a bancheck
23:48	ShadowNinja	Yep, irssi doesn't.
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