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00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i love cold wwwwwwwweather
00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i will go outside at 63 degrees in a bathing suit
00:00 rarkenin I also like it, but not when drenched with water amidst 20MPH wind gusts.
00:01 Kacey lol
00:01 rarkenin Especially when some toothpick of a cox is screaming motivational insults at me.
00:01 * Kacey is going to start playing legit-build for a bit. anyone interested?
00:01 jojoa1997|Tablet me
00:02 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
00:02 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.310ms)
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00:02 NotReallyNick !up loclahost.
00:02 MinetestBot loclahost.:30000 seems to be down
00:02 jojoa1997|Tablet !up not.real.com
00:03 MinetestBot not.real.com:30000 seems to be down
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet !up freenode.net
00:03 MinetestBot freenode.net:30000 seems to be down
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet what but that is a real site
00:03 NotReallyNick It only detects minetest.
00:03 sdzen !up your.s
00:03 MinetestBot your.s:30000 seems to be down
00:03 NotReallyNick !up 0gb.us 80
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00:03 MinetestBot 0gb.us:80 seems to be down
00:03 Kacey you crashed it jojoa1997|Tablet
00:03 NotReallyNick See? Only minetest.
00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet hehehe
00:04 jojoa1997|Tablet muwhahahaha
00:04 sdzen !up google.com:8080
00:04 MinetestBot sdzen: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
00:04 * jojoa1997|Tablet crashes the world with his good looks
00:04 Kacey try now
00:04 sdzen !up zenoheld.minetest.net
00:04 MinetestBot zenoheld.minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
00:04 jojoa1997|Tablet kinvalid
00:04 jojoa1997|Tablet delete my file
00:05 jojoa1997|Tablet is it deleted?
00:05 Kacey not yet
00:05 jojoa1997|Tablet pm when
00:05 Kacey done
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet invalid pass
00:06 Kacey server is up now
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet lol
00:06 jojoa1997|Tablet i forgot i had a different pass
00:07 rarkenin No, it detects UDP that isn't Minetest as being UP IIRC.
00:07 Kacey mods\minetest\inventory_plus\init.lua:72: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
00:07 NotReallyNick Okay, my bad.
00:07 Kacey ivenever had that problem before with inv.plus
00:08 rarkenin Sorry, I suddenly disappeared for a few minutes.
00:08 NotReallyNick I've got to turn off the "notify on every message" thing. Too many messages. If you need me, mention me or PM me.
00:13 jojoa1997|Tablet ingame texture switching
00:13 sdzen for the lazy?
00:13 jojoa1997|Tablet no
00:13 jojoa1997|Tablet not when connecting to vanessae's server
00:14 rarkenin IIRC there's a texture memory leak, and the bulk of the waiting time on a mod-heavy server is preparing textures anyway.
00:14 VanessaE rarkenin: with any luck maybe soon we won't be wasting time rendering them for inventory, and just instead show the real blocks as they would be shown in-world.
00:15 VanessaE there's no logical reason to do it any other way
00:15 ShadowNinja a big one with texture packs I hear
00:15 rarkenin Possibly...
00:15 ShadowNinja hopefully animated too
00:16 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft has ingame texture switching and the possibility to animate any node
00:16 rarkenin This would be cool to make for Minetest--> http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?285495-Assassin-s-Craft-III-Minecraft-Trailer-Mashups
00:18 rarkenin I'm pretty good with Blender, we could all contribute to something like this and render on all of our machines.
00:22 jojoa1997|Tablet this would be nice http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/361430-151smp-smart-moving/
00:22 NotReallyNick You know, I though the new cobble look and separate stone bricks would be good for the long run, but would make current structures not look good. But I was wrong. A lot of things look better with new cobble.
00:23 Menche the "new" cobble texture is actually from a really old pack
00:23 NotReallyNick Yeah, I saw that in the credits.
00:23 rarkenin We need a more configurable manifest of allowed motions sent to the client and decoded there.
00:23 rarkenin Per-node would be awesome.
00:24 NotReallyNick I mean though, things were built with the brick look in mind. But they still look great as cracked stone.
00:28 NotReallyNick Server crashed.
00:30 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone got a good server
00:30 jojoa1997|Tablet new one
00:30 NotReallyNick I will, in a minute.
00:30 NotReallyNick Oh, not new.
00:31 jojoa1997|Tablet suggestion
00:31 jojoa1997|Tablet there should be a blocking mech with swords
00:31 jojoa1997|Tablet right click blocks
00:35 jordan4ibanez how do I set a player's animation?
00:40 VanessaE *** player1 joined the game
00:40 VanessaE where's player 2?
00:40 VanessaE ;)
00:41 jojoa1997|Tablet this guy takes on too many projects http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81168#p81168
00:41 jojoa1997|Tablet he might surpass my number of posts in shorter time!
00:41 jojoa1997|Tablet :O
00:42 * jojoa1997|Tablet must post must be #1
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00:42 Menche "Now Hosting 100 or More ways die on minetest!"
00:42 Menche has been up forever and still is at 0
00:42 Menche lol
00:43 jojoa1997|Tablet he has 7 different games he is making and only portal is the real one
00:43 jojoa1997|Tablet though i really like the node replacer
00:43 Menche he already has 100 more posts than me
00:44 jojoa1997|Tablet someone should ban him hehehe
00:44 jojoa1997|Tablet jk dont
00:44 Menche his grammar is awesome
00:44 Menche or not
00:45 jojoa1997|Tablet hay at least he gives credit to celeron in everything he does
00:49 RealBadAngel and pretty nice lists of contributors
00:50 RealBadAngel btw technic got updated for 0.4.6
00:50 RealBadAngel and has some new concrete items
00:51 jojoa1997|Tablet !up kacey.server.crashed_from_inv_p[lus_?
00:52 MinetestBot kacey.server.crashed_from_inv_p[lus_?:30000 seems to be down
00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet lol it took
00:52 jojoa1997|Tablet someone should update tronic or make a new futuristic pack
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01:17 dante123 hi all, trying to add animals to the minetest server for my kids......get an error failed to load and run
01:17 dante123 any ideas?? (its sapier animals mod on 0.4.5 server)
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01:18 dante123 when I remove it, the server starts with docfarming and food mod
01:18 dante123 just fine
01:19 RealBadAngel dante, any error logs?
01:19 dante123 is there another farm animal mod???
01:19 dante123 just that failed to load error (havent checked logs and not sure where to)
01:19 RealBadAngel are you on windows?
01:20 dante123 no linux server
01:20 RealBadAngel run game from console
01:20 dante123 okay hang on
01:20 RealBadAngel and when it crashes check last lines
01:20 mrdragons dante123: That mod crashes my server too, don't have a fix for it though
01:20 RealBadAngel sayin LUA error and line
01:21 dante123 Loaded texture: /usr/share/minetest/textures/base/pack/menuheader.png
01:21 dante123 21:21:10: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA ===========
01:21 dante123 21:21:10: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from
01:21 dante123 21:21:10: ERROR[main]: /home/mark/.minetest/mods/minetest/sapier-animals_modpack-c0e60da/animalmaterials/init.lua:
01:22 dante123 yes, is there another animals mod
01:22 dante123 I think I found one called "animals_modpack-2.0.5.zip" but not sure it works
01:23 dante123 sent it to a friend, and they said it crashed
01:23 dante123 I guess I could try it too
01:23 VanessaE you need the animal materials mod also
01:23 VanessaE which means your copy of animals modpack is out of date - current versions come with it already
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01:24 dante123 where do I get that
01:24 VanessaE just download the latest animals modpack, which is known as MOB Framework now:
01:24 dante123 this modpack 2.0.5 seems to be working
01:24 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629
01:25 jojoa1997|Tablet stupid
01:25 VanessaE 2.0.5 is recent, should be okay
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01:25 jojoa1997|Tablet i always come in the middle of conversations and have to look at logs then miss more stuff
01:26 jordan4ibanez This is going to be the most violent mod that minetest has ever seen
01:26 dante123 VanessaE that is the one I just tried
01:26 dante123 seems to be working.....
01:26 VanessaE dante123: should be working okay?
01:26 VanessaE ok good
01:26 dante123 can I get rid of vombies
01:26 VanessaE yeah, just delete the vombies folder.
01:26 dante123 want to keep it to just farm animals right now
01:26 dante123 ok will try again
01:27 VanessaE it's a modpack, so almost any component therein can be deleted outright if so desired.
01:28 dante123 im getting error in the inventory, isntead of a fish like in description it is a chicken leg
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01:29 Kacey lol hi kaeza
01:29 jojoa1997|Tablet can anyone make a futuristic texture pack
01:29 kaeza :)
01:29 Kacey * Received a CTCP VERSION from kaeza
01:29 dante123 could docfarming or other mod be interfering
01:29 mauvebic thats how stalking starts :P
01:29 jojoa1997|Tablet i know 16 packs is enough but i have a world per pack and speial mods
01:30 mauvebic first its the CTCP, next thing you know, he's outside your bathroom window
01:30 mauvebic :P
01:30 Kacey good luck with that
01:30 mauvebic no bathroom window? me neither lol
01:30 jojoa1997|Tablet yay
01:30 Kacey 0.4.6 is out already?
01:30 jojoa1997|Tablet https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack/pull/39
01:30 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
01:30 kaeza wait... do you mean Kacey connects to the inet from the bathroom?
01:31 Kacey no i live across the globe from him
01:31 kaeza lol true
01:31 kaeza well more like half across the globe
01:32 Kacey lol
01:32 jojoa1997|Tablet kacey drops a line down his toilet and it goes through the center of the earth and up to mauvebic. boom quickest communication
01:32 jojoa1997|Tablet pour dead fishies
01:33 dante123 what is causing this http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-04-03_21_32_45-xrykV4PS.png
01:33 Kacey lol no mauvebic lives waaaay north of me
01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet can anyone make new trees like birch and spruce that are around up to 1.5 the height of jungle trees
01:34 dante123 the DM and GI and CL and all that
01:34 Kacey animals modpack has no images for them
01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet no they do
01:34 jojoa1997|Tablet those are the images
01:35 dante123 so do i delete say the "gull" folder from the mod and then it wont show up?
01:35 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam
01:35 jojoa1997|Tablet hi
01:35 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
01:35 jojoa1997|Tablet dont delete materials and mobf
01:35 kaeza whoa
01:35 kaeza are you talking to yourself jojo?
01:36 jojoa1997|Tablet no
01:36 jojoa1997|Tablet hi pilzadam
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet yes delete gulls folder dont delete materials and mobf
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet ho how are you
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet good you?
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet im fine want to go to park
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet sure
01:37 jojoa1997|Tablet are you skitzofrenic
01:38 jojoa1997|Tablet yes what about you
01:38 jojoa1997|Tablet same
01:38 kaeza schizophrenic*
01:38 * NotReallyNick giggles
01:38 jojoa1997|Tablet /both your not real
01:38 * jojoa1997|Tablet poofs up " I AM REL"
01:38 jojoa1997|Tablet "REAL"
01:38 jojoa1997|Tablet stop yelling at me
01:38 kaeza .avi
01:40 jordan4ibanez Oops
01:40 jordan4ibanez I created a sheep gun
01:41 kaeza :D
01:41 dante123 okay I think things are working, but I have all these icons in inventory that say things like pork (raw), lamb (raw), Fish (clownfish) etc. and all have like a drumstick icon.....is that correct or is this an error??
01:42 dante123 also stuff like toxic meat, venison (raw) but all the same icon
01:46 dante123 anyone there??
01:46 dante123 Also NPC trader....but there is no icon for that....can I take that image or folder away
01:47 dante123 the one called mob_npc ???
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01:50 rarkenin I am back/
01:50 Aggies roat
01:50 Aggies roar
01:50 dante123 Could not open file of texture: animalmaterials_egg_ent_mesh.png  Loaded mesh: animalmaterials_egg_ent.b3d
01:50 dante123 21:48:10: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Could not load image "food_cigar.png" while building texture
01:50 dante123 Any ideas how to eliminate this error
01:51 * Kacey hides from Aggies
01:56 kaeza dante123, it's a problem with food mod
01:56 kaeza blame rubenwardy :)
01:57 kaeza it's not a critical error; you'll only see a missing texture
01:58 Doc22 joined #minetest
01:58 kaeza or blame this guy ^
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02:00 jordan4ibanez "weight = 5,"
02:00 Kacey night all
02:00 jordan4ibanez what is entity weight?
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Check if the address field is empty when hitting enter on the multiplayer tab 2a0badf2d5 2013-04-03T14:33:17-07:00 http://git.io/PSQ3WA
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add aliases for diamond mod c43718a434 2013-03-28T13:55:36-07:00 http://git.io/TZECmQ
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/common: Add crafting for diamondblocks a3670d751f 2013-04-01T11:28:30-07:00 http://git.io/3a9ZuA
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: 0gb-us commited to minetest/build: Add "safe" version of bones, players inventory is not added to the bones 3987937f84 2013-03-30T05:17:11-07:00 http://git.io/xsRWfA
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/survival: Add bones mod 8d7c502833 2013-03-23T10:20:12-07:00 http://git.io/b3J4gA
02:02 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Metadata fix for serialization. 0317deb101 2013-03-27T15:07:52-07:00 http://git.io/bMv6Ow
02:03 VanessaE whoa
02:04 Aggies joined #minetest
02:05 NakedFury lots of commits
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02:10 NotReallyNick Some of those are old, too.
02:11 VanessaE I thought so.
02:11 NotReallyNick Maybe all of them.
02:13 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...st/server/bin/../mods/build/homedecor/door_nodes.lua:172: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
02:13 VanessaE O.o
02:14 VanessaE how old is your copy?
02:14 ShadowNinja git pulled today
02:14 VanessaE lemme look at it real quick
02:16 VanessaE what were you doing at the time?
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02:18 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb
02:18 jojoa1997|Tablet i cant connect to your server
02:18 jojoa1997|Tablet it says acces denied
02:19 jojoa1997|Tablet NotReallyNick ^
02:19 jojoa1997|Tablet it says invalid pass
02:20 VanessaE ShadowNinja: *poke*
02:20 NotReallyNick Did you change your password today? The rushed update damaged the world, and we had to roll back.
02:20 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: ^
02:20 jojoa1997|Tablet oops caps
02:20 NotReallyNick Ah. That will do it.
02:20 jojoa1997|Tablet can you regrant build
02:20 jojoa1997|Tablet ppppppppppppriv
02:21 ShadowNinja VanessaE: nothing, server crashed while I was offline
02:21 VanessaE ShadowNinja: someone else logged into your server at the time?
02:21 ShadowNinja yes
02:21 jojoa1997|Tablet no fair i got 2 stacks of diamonds
02:21 jojoa1997|Tablet NotReallyNick will you
02:21 VanessaE can you review the log and figure out what they tried to do?
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet oh thanks
02:22 NotReallyNick Will I what?
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet grant build
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet ohew
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet phew
02:22 NotReallyNick Nope. No interact for you.
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet 4% battery
02:22 jojoa1997|Tablet haha
02:23 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: so plug your charger in
02:23 jojoa1997|Tablet i buil;d everything by setpos1 setpos2
02:23 jojoa1997|Tablet fill
02:23 jojoa1997|Tablet all for one block'
02:23 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae that is in  my room
02:23 jojoa1997|Tablet i feel too lazy to get it but
02:23 NotReallyNick What? It's mass producing blocks now?
02:24 jojoa1997|Tablet i need to fiish homework
02:24 jojoa1997|Tablet what is?
02:24 NotReallyNick You said you could fill an area only using up one block.
02:24 VanessaE ShadowNinja: If possible, I need to know exactly what the player did and what they were wielding at the time.
02:25 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5675376/
02:25 jojoa1997|Tablet no
02:25 jojoa1997|Tablet as in i place block by block using that
02:25 jojoa1997|Tablet like place without interact
02:26 jojoa1997|Tablet vanbessae what happened
02:26 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I'm not sure I can blame this on homedecor
02:26 * jojoa1997|Tablet back with the charger like da bomb boss
02:26 NotReallyNick Ah. I see. i just tested for the error too, and it's not there, so we're fine. Ecept my boat, which is now covered in gravel.
02:26 jojoa1997|Tablet wait
02:26 jojoa1997|Tablet let me take a pic
02:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i love gravel picks
02:27 jojoa1997|Tablet oh and 0gb
02:27 NotReallyNick Take all the time you need. I'll leave it for today.
02:27 ShadowNinja I think I know what it was
02:27 ShadowNinja if not minetest.registered_nodes[node.name].on_rightclick then
02:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i most likely wont have a hacked client for a long time
02:27 ShadowNinja it was probably an unknown node
02:28 jojoa1997|Tablet sooo.......
02:28 jojoa1997|Tablet lol i touched my pc screen like it was a touchscreen
02:28 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: some weird crash involving homedecor..  ShadowNinja I have to wonder if this is actually a problem with something in minetest/builtin/misc_register.lua
02:28 jojoa1997|Tablet i tried to press cancel
02:29 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81187#p81187
02:29 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone up for a challenge
02:30 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb
02:30 jojoa1997|Tablet why is gravel on your boat
02:31 VanessaE ShadowNinja: was the door unknown or something?  or wielding an unknown node maybe?
02:31 kaeza go home jojoa, you are drunk
02:31 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza i am always like this
02:32 jojoa1997|Tablet i have not had a drop of beer ever and only a sip of disgusting wine at a wedding
02:32 ShadowNinja no, probably placing on an unknown node
02:32 VanessaE I can't reproduce it with current minetest git HEAD.
02:32 ShadowNinja unknown is not in minetest.registered_nodes
02:32 VanessaE (and I just tried that, too)
02:33 ShadowNinja are you placing on an unknown node?
02:33 VanessaE placing it ON one?  no
02:33 VanessaE lemme try that
02:33 VanessaE AH!
02:33 VanessaE that triggered it.
02:35 VanessaE lemme test a quick fix
02:36 ShadowNinja I had this issue with xbars/xfences/xpanes, I just checked that it existed first
02:38 VanessaE brb
02:39 jordan4ibanez I was going to keep this a secret
02:39 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/MtDbY8Y.png
02:39 jordan4ibanez I am too excited though
02:39 jojoa1997|Tablet /giveme mod
02:40 jojoa1997|Tablet does it work
02:40 jordan4ibanez it does
02:40 jordan4ibanez and it's extremely destructive
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02:43 jordan4ibanez with force load the cannonball/missile will be able to fly across the map flawlessly
02:43 jordan4ibanez this will be great for pvp servers
02:46 VanessaE ShadowNinja: fixed in git.
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02:50 VanessaE hm, similar problem with the signs code.  I'll fix that real quick too
02:52 VanessaE there, that's fixed in git too.
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02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet What are the different Mac builds mean
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet Like OSX
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet ALSO
02:54 VanessaE kaeza: update your local copy of homedecor :)
02:54 jojoa1997|Tablet NotReallyNick: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81198#p81198
02:55 kaeza VanessaE, new stuff? :)
02:55 NotReallyNick Okay, cool! A mac build finally. Why tell me specifically though?
02:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Your mac
02:55 VanessaE kaeza: just a couple bug fixes.
02:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Is the stronger computor
02:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Also jordan4ibanez will you release the mod
02:56 jordan4ibanez no poop
02:56 kaeza done
02:56 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: I'm on Ubuntu, the Mac thing didn't work out.
02:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Why not
02:56 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok
02:57 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordan why not it is a good mod
02:57 jordan4ibanez I wonder how to set a velocity x,z using getyaw()
02:57 NotReallyNick Because there was no Mac build. The stronger machine now runs Ubuntu, so it's too late for a Mac build for me.
02:58 jojoa1997|Tablet Ogb can you reimburse me for my time on your server
02:58 jojoa1997|Tablet I spent an hour mining 2 stacks of diamonds
02:58 jojoa1997|Tablet And you rollback my work
02:58 EduardeCalibal All mobs are invencible now here...  -.-
02:59 jojoa1997|Tablet ..?
02:59 NotReallyNick I rolled it back because YOU rushed me into updating while I didn't have time to make sure it was done right. You need to reimburse everyone else.
02:59 EduardeCalibal I hit but don't make damage...
03:00 NotReallyNick You don't really have to, but you get the point.
03:00 jojoa1997|Tablet I rushed you?
03:00 jojoa1997|Tablet I thought you were just sprucing up your fix
03:00 jojoa1997|Tablet Sorty
03:00 jojoa1997|Tablet Sorry
03:01 NotReallyNick You have been pushing me to update for about a month, then today, you're like "now 0gb.us can update".
03:01 NotReallyNick No worries, I just mean I can't keep up with everything here.
03:03 jojoa1997|Tablet Ok
03:03 jojoa1997|Tablet When I saw you add commit updates to 0.4.6 in 0gb_us game I thought sweet it will be an easy and quick transition
03:04 NotReallyNick No, the transition still isn't complete.
03:04 jojoa1997|Tablet Also what destroyed the map cause I don't want my worlds ruined
03:05 NotReallyNick What destroyed the map was a small error combined with my OCD. If you don't have OCD, you'll be fine.
03:05 NotReallyNick Basically, dungeons and jungles were unable to spawn.
03:06 NotReallyNick (that was the small error)
03:06 jordan4ibanez Oh my gosh
03:06 jordan4ibanez the old internet
03:06 jordan4ibanez http://www.mrexcel.com/forum/excel-questions/79752-how-get-opposite-value-atan-formula.html
03:06 jojoa1997|Tablet Why
03:06 NotReallyNick Because I forgot to update a world file.
03:09 kaeza how do I setup the curl media download on the server side?
03:09 VanessaE you need to set up a web server
03:09 VanessaE nginx seems to be preferred around here.
03:09 kaeza I already have one
03:09 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org
03:09 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
03:09 kaeza fuck
03:10 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org
03:10 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.142ms)
03:10 NotReallyNick Why is nginx preferred? Is there a reason, or just preference?
03:10 kaeza I use apache2 currently
03:10 NotReallyNick I do as well, but just because I'm used to it from when I used to use OS X.
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03:11 jrabbit nginx is easy to setup
03:11 jrabbit comparitively
03:11 hmmmm nginx is great for smaller sites
03:11 hmmmm it's also faster for simpler things
03:12 kaeza I used hiawatha before. It's also relatively easy to set up
03:12 hmmmm can't go wrong with a FNPP stack :)
03:12 NotReallyNick In Ubuntu, it was one line to set up, so I doubt nginx can beat that.
03:12 kaeza NotReallyNick, In Puppy Linux it comes pre-configured
03:12 kaeza beat that
03:13 NotReallyNick In Debian, it does too. I think it does in Ubutu too.
03:14 * NotReallyNick slaps own head for being involved in a Linux versus Linux fight
03:14 * kaeza puts notepad.exe on NotReallyNick's head
03:15 * NotReallyNick bats it ff quickly and drives it into the ground with his foot
03:15 * NotReallyNick doesn't really like EXEs
03:15 NotReallyNick *off
03:18 VanessaE is there a graceful way to simulate 'wallmounted' when making something nodebox-based?
03:19 NotReallyNick Hmm. That's a good question. I think no, but I could be wrong.
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03:20 NotReallyNick You could put together something using RealBadAngel's 6D facedir, but it probably wouldn't be what you mean by elegant.
03:21 kaeza VanessaE, maybe overkill, but you'd have to re-implement wallmounted in lua (i.e. checking attached wall on_dig). not elegant either
03:21 VanessaE oh G*d.
03:21 NotReallyNick Ugh. I forgot about the attached node thing.
03:22 ShadowNinja hmmmm: feel like working on all those compiler warnings? I know there is a pull to fix some of them.
03:22 hmmmm yeah, sometime
03:22 * NotReallyNick is from simpler times, when torches and signs could float
03:41 NakedFury im waiting for the day minetest can be made to look like this: http://www.reddit.com/tb/1bmg78
03:42 jordan4ibanez one day nakedfury
03:43 jordan4ibanez hopefully this year
03:46 WiredOnLinux whats wrong with the Minetest Website?
03:46 NakedFury down
03:47 WiredOnLinux do you know when its going to be online again?
03:47 telek Just out of curiousity, does anyone with internals experience have any idea how hard it would be to have minetest automatically generate x blocks out from the farthest point a player has reached symmetrically? (IE if they're out to a radius of 5 units from origin, have the hardcode load/generate all the blocks out to a radius of 5)?
03:48 jordan4ibanez Why?
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03:48 * telek has been having a lot of random lag on his server and is now semi-convinced it's due to node generation, hence having it just do it all at once rather than when a particular node is viewed/accessed might come in handy.
03:49 jordan4ibanez I don't get minetest's lazy chunk generation, it seems like it would be more efficient to load up chunks within a radius
03:51 telek I wouldn't have a problem with it except that I think it's still doing some of the random far away generation, judging by some of my maps. I'd need to map off a new world to double check though.
03:51 telek Are all the internal calculations integer, floating point, or fixed point?
03:52 jordan4ibanez Yeah that's what I'm saying
03:52 telek Well at least I'm not alone then :)
03:52 jordan4ibanez Player's with very fast computers can exploit the game and generate very far away, slowing the server down
03:52 kaeza what do I need to put into server_address for it to appear on public server list?
03:53 telek jordan4ibanez: Actually I thought you could cap generation to within only x blocks of the player.
03:53 jordan4ibanez Hmm, more things that I don't know about
03:53 * telek remembers setting that option a long time ago, although it didn't seem to work very well back then.
03:54 Menche there's a minetest.conf setting called "max_block_generate_distance"
03:54 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/afr_hkycJ-Q
03:54 Menche seems to be 6 by default
03:54 telek Menche: Yeah that one. How far is 6 blocks anyways?
03:54 jordan4ibanez 6 mapblocks
03:54 Menche idk how big exactly a block is
03:55 jordan4ibanez 80x80x80
03:55 Menche like 15 or so? maybe?
03:55 hmmmm more like 16x16x16
03:55 * Menche was closer than jordan4ibanez
03:55 * telek waves and afks.
03:55 jordan4ibanez Well I made cannons! http://youtu.be/afr_hkycJ-Q
03:56 telek Now if you can only make a multi-node pirate ship :D
03:57 jordan4ibanez I, actually can
03:57 jordan4ibanez with the new collision detection and parenting!
03:58 jordan4ibanez Huge multilevel ships too!
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04:00 jordan4ibanez I'll work on it tomorrow though, my brain is tired for today
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04:02 jordan4ibanez is there a on_collision_detection function for entities to get the "hardness" of the collision?
04:03 ShadowNinja jordan4ibanez: nice! using attachment might make them smoother but probably wouldn't allow remote control, will it have a free license?
04:04 jordan4ibanez What? They will be remote control; soon they will detect if the player is in the radius of them and holding the gunner remote
04:04 jordan4ibanez Probably, it's a pretty small mod
04:05 ShadowNinja probably? and why can't a big mod use a free license?
04:05 jordan4ibanez Why does it matter?
04:06 jordan4ibanez And: If I made a big mod, I wouldn't want people to ruin it
04:06 NakedFury or not give you credit when they mod it
04:06 * NotReallyNick thinks default is both a big "mod" and under a free licence
04:07 ShadowNinja You can have them give credit and use a free license, and how would they ruin it?
04:07 NotReallyNick They might make all the images orange. The horror!
04:07 jordan4ibanez Take jojoa's simple mobs
04:08 ShadowNinja what is ruined about it?
04:08 jordan4ibanez A bit of everything
04:09 ShadowNinja that isn't very specific
04:09 NotReallyNick Ruined or not, the original work is intact, no?
04:09 jordan4ibanez Not really
04:10 jordan4ibanez I think I might have deleted it on accident on my dropbox a day ago. xD
04:10 NotReallyNick Someone messed up one of my plugins too (though I won't say which). I don't mind.
04:10 NakedFury as long as in the forums blatant copying of mod work is stopped everything is okay
04:10 NotReallyNick I still have a working copy, so ....
04:10 NakedFury but then for some things there arent that many ways to code them
04:11 jordan4ibanez Every I make uses imagination, seeing people mod a couple of things, and calling a whole new thing, ruins the fun of creating a mod under a free license just to have someone pass it off as something brand new
04:12 jordan4ibanez every mod*
04:12 NakedFury once you make a mod and post it you have to give up the idea that people wont touch it or edit it
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04:27 NotReallyNick If it's worth editing, that should be a complement to you.
04:28 NotReallyNick They think you code is great, and want to add to it.
04:30 jordan4ibanez How do I make a sound attached to an object? So that the object entity can turn it on and off?
04:31 jordan4ibanez oh that was pretty self explanitory
04:34 jordan4ibanez now how do I stop a sound attached to an object?
04:34 jordan4ibanez that's not explained at all in the doc
04:36 NotReallyNick Sorry, no idea.
04:38 jordan4ibanez hmmmm
04:43 jordan4ibanez self.sound_handle = minetest.sound_play("cannon_move", {
04:43 jordan4ibanez object = self.object,
04:43 jordan4ibanez gain = 1.0, -- default
04:43 jordan4ibanez max_hear_distance = 100, -- default
04:43 jordan4ibanez loop = true, -- only sounds connected to objects can be looped
04:43 jordan4ibanez })
04:43 jordan4ibanez minetest.sound_stop(self.sound_handle)
04:44 jordan4ibanez that's pretty easy, but it is overcomplicated by the fact there is no reference to the fact that music handle needs to be the play sound
04:57 jordan4ibanez Whoa
04:57 jordan4ibanez You guys aren't going to belive this
04:57 jordan4ibanez but minetest is going into every left over world that It couldn't delete randomly, it's not going to the new world I'm trying to create
04:59 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/7240509696
05:02 ShadowNinja Can I get a players IP from lua?
05:09 ShadowNinja guess not, adding it
05:10 ShadowNinja if I can figure out the c++ side of the lua api that is :-)
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05:23 jordan4ibanez Here, you guys can fool around with this thing for now https://dl.dropbox.com/s/x5mpt60lwwo0rbk/cannon.zip?token_hash=AAEwxiYAxxjFdmGtiB9zxXBWM8IbzvIyAmX9l22zV9DY3w&dl=1
05:23 jordan4ibanez Goodnight peoples
05:24 jordan4ibanez And it's supposed to be a diesel turbo crane combined with a nazi 88 stacker from WWII
05:24 jordan4ibanez peace out
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05:43 T_X hm, looks like minetest.net is down, isn't it?
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06:00 NotReallyNick Yeah, it is.
06:03 T_X bad timing, had just announced of having installed a minetest server in our mesh network community + dn42 :D (and most of the folks there haven't used or heard of minetest yet)
06:04 T_X but well, minetest looks really awesome, I actually didn't know about it since a couple of months ago either
06:04 NotReallyNick Ah. That is bad timing.
06:04 NotReallyNick Would the forum be good enough?
06:04 NotReallyNick http://forum.minetest.net/ is up.
06:05 T_X actually, when I once tested it, someone asked whether I'd be playing minecraft too, he didn't spot the difference over my shoulder :D
06:06 T_X NotReallyNick: well, I guess these two dozen people on our ML can wait a few more days, no worries :)
06:07 NotReallyNick The site doesn't have much info anyway. Everything is on the forum and IRC, both of which are up.
06:07 NotReallyNick Oh, also Github.
06:07 NotReallyNick http://github.com/minetest
06:07 T_X actually that'll lead to more mails and therefore more advertisement on the mailing list (because someone replied that the side is down and I'll have to answer again when it's up again, hehe) for minetest which is fine by me :P
06:08 T_X NotReallyNick: hm, yes, I might post them, too. thanks!
06:08 NotReallyNick Okay, cool. Sounds like you have a plan.
06:08 NotReallyNick Any time.
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06:47 VanessaE is there a graceful way to determine if I'm pointed at a vertical face of a node versus one of the horizontal faces?
06:48 NotReallyNick Yeah, but it's hard to explain.
06:49 NotReallyNick Use pointed_thing.above and compare it to pinted_thing.under.
06:49 VanessaE yes?
06:49 NotReallyNick Check to see if they have the same x and z value.
06:49 VanessaE compare y coords versus x/z c....yeah
06:51 NotReallyNick Come to think of it, checking just y instead of x and z would probably be better.
06:51 VanessaE if above.y == (under.y + 1) then
06:51 VanessaE -- it's the top face
06:51 VanessaE else
06:52 VanessaE --it's a side face
06:52 VanessaE end
06:52 VanessaE like so?
06:52 NotReallyNick Sort of. But there's also the bottom face. Do you want that classified as a side, or non side?
06:52 VanessaE non-side.
06:52 NotReallyNick ~= might be better.
06:52 VanessaE ok.
06:54 NotReallyNick if above.y == under.y then
06:54 NotReallyNick --it's a side face
06:54 NotReallyNick else
06:54 NotReallyNick -- it's the top or bottom face
06:54 NotReallyNick end
06:54 NotReallyNick I was wrong, don't use ~=.
06:55 VanessaE got it.
06:55 VanessaE thanks for the tip :-)
06:55 VanessaE I can never remember how .above and .under actually work
06:55 NotReallyNick Yeah, no problem. Happy to help!
06:56 VanessaE lets see what THIS breaks ;)
06:58 NotReallyNick So, what are you building?
06:58 VanessaE updating some stuff in homedecor
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07:14 VanessaE now, is there a way to detect if the user is in creative mode?
07:15 NotReallyNick Yeah. Hold on.
07:15 VanessaE (specifically, default creative)
07:15 NotReallyNick Yeah, I don't know the new odd one.
07:16 NotReallyNick if minetest.setting_getbool("creative_mode") then
07:16 NotReallyNick end
07:16 VanessaE oh that's all eh
07:16 VanessaE I expected it to be more complicated :D
07:16 VanessaE thanks again
07:16 NotReallyNick Yeah, no problem!
07:17 VanessaE perfect.
07:17 VanessaE now to see how it behaves with Unified Inventory
07:19 VanessaE meh, it works well enough.
07:19 NotReallyNick What's the issue?
07:19 VanessaE doesn't deduct when UI is in creative mode but that's okay, it doesn't need to anyway.
07:19 markveidemanis Who can help with an inventory?
07:20 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80962#p80962
07:20 NotReallyNick It doesn't? That's odd. I thought Unified Inventory used the same setting to go into creative mode.
07:21 NotReallyNick Sorry, I don't have any more advice on that than I did last time.
07:22 VanessaE it uses the same setting, yes
07:22 VanessaE but UI doesn't implement infinite items the way default creative does.
07:22 NotReallyNick OH! Got it.
07:23 VanessaE now there's one bug left, and it's an engine bug by the look of it.
07:23 markveidemanis Can NotReallyNick or VanessaE help me with an inventory
07:23 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=80962#p80962
07:23 VanessaE markveidemanis: sorry, I've only just begin to scratch the surface of inventory management.
07:23 markveidemanis ok...
07:23 markveidemanis But i bet you are better than me already
07:23 VanessaE NotReallyNick: the rendering engine doesn't properly rotate the textures used on wallmounted nodebox-based objects.
07:24 NotReallyNick To make those three work together?
07:24 markveidemanis I literally copy and paste
07:24 markveidemanis Yes
07:24 NotReallyNick Sorry markveidemanis, all I know I said yesterday.
07:24 markveidemanis It should work like the creative+inventory plus
07:25 NotReallyNick VanessaE: I was unaware of that. I thought I saw rotated textures in the old cobble stair node boxes.
07:25 markveidemanis Simple: in survival, show the grid tab, in creative, show the creative tab
07:26 VanessaE NotReallyNick:  yeah, those are different - they're just normal facedir stuff
07:26 VanessaE these are wallmounted...but maybe I can make them plain facedir also..
07:26 * VanessaE looks into it
07:26 NotReallyNick Ah. Got it.
07:27 NotReallyNick markveidemanis: So you are trying to get the side inventory that you can take infinite items from?
07:27 markveidemanis No, the one from creative
07:28 NotReallyNick You want the whole formspec from creative?
07:28 markveidemanis Basically replace the creative code in creative changer with the code in creative
07:28 markveidemanis and then edit inventory plus
07:29 NotReallyNick Okay. I don't even know what the code in creative changer looks like.
07:29 markveidemanis roughly the same as creative
07:30 markveidemanis I had made it work once before...
07:30 NotReallyNick Then look in minetest/common/mods/creative/inint.lua and copy the code you need. I don't understand the issue.
07:30 NotReallyNick *init
07:33 ShadowNinja does minetest allow you to ban a player connected from 127.0.0.1?
07:33 markveidemanis WOW!!!
07:33 kaeza ShadowNinja, yes
07:33 NotReallyNick I don't see why it wouldn't.
07:33 markveidemanis SOMETHING I MADE WORKS!!!
07:33 kaeza I tried it
07:33 NotReallyNick markveidemanis: Nice!
07:34 markveidemanis Ok i fucked up with the code a bot...
07:34 markveidemanis *bit
07:34 kaeza *lot
07:34 NotReallyNick ☺
07:35 kaeza â—• â—¡ â—•
07:35 markveidemanis I think i nailed it...
07:35 NotReallyNick Great1
07:36 NotReallyNick *!
07:36 markveidemanis lol just needed to copy the code
07:36 kaeza stupid spammers and their obvious nicknames: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81210#p81210
07:36 NotReallyNick Did you see my other name?
07:37 LegitimateUser I'm not a spammer .... really ....
07:39 kaeza Real Name: Iam Nottabot
07:39 NotReallyNick Yes.
07:40 markveidemanis Theres a bug that is also present with the default version
07:40 NotReallyNick What bug?
07:40 markveidemanis when i take an item on the FIRST page, the item next to it disappears
07:41 NotReallyNick I was just about to test, but I don't have minetest_game installed .....
07:41 markveidemanis im not sending you it...join my server
07:41 markveidemanis :D
07:42 NotReallyNick Is yours on the built in list?
07:42 markveidemanis 86.133.52.240
07:42 markveidemanis idk.
07:42 NotReallyNick Port 80?
07:42 NotReallyNick I mean, port 30000?
07:42 markveidemanis yep
07:43 markveidemanis lol 0gb_us is on first
07:43 markveidemanis i  mean us_0gb
07:43 NotReallyNick Nah, had it right the first time.
07:45 ShadowNinja there, I successfully banned myself :-) now to delete that ban file...
07:46 NotReallyNick You don't want to stay banned? I see how it is. Undermining your own authority, eh?
07:48 ShadowNinja hmm, I still can't connect...
07:48 NotReallyNick Did you shut it down before deleting the file?
07:49 ShadowNinja ah, I got perma-banned because the server shut down as soon as I left
07:49 NotReallyNick Ah, ha ha.
07:53 kaeza ok I must go. My planet needs me :)
07:53 kaeza goot night all
07:53 kaeza -t+d :D
07:53 NotReallyNick Good night and good luck!
07:54 NotReallyNick "-t+d"?
07:54 ShadowNinja add a "t" remove the "d"
07:54 ShadowNinja er, other way
07:54 NotReallyNick Ah. So simple, I didn't see it.
07:54 ShadowNinja goot -> good
07:57 VanessaE NotReallyNick: homedecor updated in git.
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08:00 NotReallyNick Awesome. I'll check it out later, probably tomorrow.
08:06 ShadowNinja it is working, attempts to connect will show the player as leaving but I don't think it is going to get any better than that, at least not without rarks kick function
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08:14 VanessaE ok, off to bed for me.  Night all.
08:14 NotReallyNick Good night! Me too.
08:15 VanessaE ShadowNinja: see above, homedecor got some additional updates you may want to look at.
08:15 VanessaE out ->
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08:40 ShadowNinja Any comments? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/594
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08:54 ShadowNinja I have the "Fullbright" feature from the TODO list working but I don't know exactly how we should do this to prevent cheating, should it check a priv?
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09:34 Taoki Does the "new damage system" in GIT include moving the health system in LUA? Been wanting to see that for some time
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10:01 markveidemanis Hi
10:01 markveidemanis Who wants to Survive with me?
10:02 markveidemanis There will be cake!
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10:17 markveidemanis Hi
10:17 markveidemanis bas080: want to play on my server?
10:17 markveidemanis Its Survival
10:18 bas080 markveidemanis, i'll have a look
10:18 bas080 Where your server at?
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10:26 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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10:28 Taoki hi
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10:52 jojoa1997|Tablet is there an android app where i can search the minetest forums
10:53 ruskie well the forum is not listed in tapatalk hd so someone would need to add that plugin to it I guess
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11:04 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81225#p81225
11:04 markveidemanis I did it!!!
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11:06 markveidemanis bas080
11:06 markveidemanis The encased creative area is done
11:07 bas080 yes
11:07 markveidemanis Is there a block that can not be destroyed except for worldedit
11:07 PilzAdam default:cloud
11:07 Calinou maptools
11:07 bas080 I haven't seen any
11:07 Calinou or default:cloud, but ugly :P
11:07 markveidemanis constantdigtime?
11:08 markveidemanis That i cant destroy with adminpick
11:09 Calinou why :P
11:09 Calinou adminpick can destroy everything, not only it can dig anything which has at least 1 group instantly (for client-side prediction), it can also destroy groupless nodes (without client-side prediction this time)
11:13 jojoa1997|Tablet should i remove nyan cats from minitest
11:13 PilzAdam yes
11:14 jojoa1997|Tablet why
11:15 PilzAdam because MC doesnt have it
11:15 ruskie there is a nyanpigs mod for MC
11:15 jojoa1997|Tablet i think i should keep it to keep minetest influence and i havent seen a natural one so it doesnt really affect anything
11:15 jojoa1997|Tablet there i will keep it
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11:16 Topic for #minetest is now NEWS: Minetest 0.4.6 released | Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.net/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
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12:09 john_minetest Hello
12:09 john_minetest Hmmm... is there a server with the newest git and mods version?
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12:12 jojoa1997|Tablet Update http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Version_History
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12:27 rubenwardy out of date: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Item_Codes/default
12:28 rubenwardy hi all
12:29 john_minetest Hi rubenwardy :)
12:35 rubenwardy VanessaE, I finally got around to this: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Traps-Mod/commit/b43584a497fb2e87495879699a705425c8c8bfb9
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12:59 Calinou weird, when minetest.net is loading, the background behind the logo is blue-green, when it's loaded, it's green
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13:01 Calinou oh, also, the forum reaced 75,000 posts. :D
13:01 Calinou and it will soon reach 5,000 topics
13:01 moala Hi, I just downloaded minetest 4.5.0 and I have a crash at startup (access violation) -- windows vista
13:02 Kacey 0.4.5
13:02 Kacey and idk how to fix that error
13:03 moala 0.4.5
13:03 moala yes
13:03 moala any fork of minetest for node.js?
13:04 sfan5 http://i.qkme.me/3swtzb.jpg
13:04 sfan5 for node.js?
13:09 rubenwardy moala: no
13:09 rubenwardy lua only
13:09 rubenwardy javascript support has been talked to death, to quote VanessaE
13:11 moala ok
13:11 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3829
13:17 Kacey bbl
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13:49 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet Pilzadam
13:56 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam: you there
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14:11 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam
14:14 jojoa1997|Tablet For anyone interested here is latest version of Minitest http://www.mediafire.com/?wxn78niqdqq6i81
14:18 * sfan5 finally got his screen recording setup right
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14:20 moala "minitest" ?
14:20 moala what's that?
14:25 Taoki Hi. Who is the owner of the Sunrise Test server? Suddenly it no longer recognizes my password (after the first login) and says it's invalud. I think they need to delete my nickname
14:27 Taoki It's really weird. I wrote a new password, logged in for the first time, but after writing the same password it says it's invalid. Sounds like the server registered it wrong
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14:30 Taoki nvm, think I fixed it myself
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14:51 rubenwardy moala: It is a game that makes minetest as close to minecraft as possible
14:52 moala rubenwardy: ok
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15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet hi
15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81261#p81261
15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet minitest updated
15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet [ilzadam please update github with this version i can get to computer for a while
15:07 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam ^
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet cant wait http://dev.minetest.net/TODO
15:08 jojoa1997|Tablet http://dev.minetest.net/TODO
15:09 jojoa1997|Tablet http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#Bar_API
15:10 jojoa1997|Tablet is anyone on?
15:19 rubenwardy mw ha ha ha
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15:29 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam
15:30 PilzAdam yes
15:30 rarkenin I am back.
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet can you add this to minitest http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81298#p81298
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet but alwso
15:30 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, I dont have time today
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet i will add it later
15:30 PilzAdam maybe in a few hours, but dunno
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet ok
15:30 jojoa1997|Tablet also
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet it is ready http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81261#p81261
15:31 jojoa1997|Tablet all the aliases are done
15:33 * mauvebic grogs
15:33 mauvebic whos got coffee made?
15:33 mauvebic :P
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15:34 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, cool! I will look at it later
15:35 jojoa1997|Tablet XD
15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet i forgot to alias mese and bronze over
15:36 jojoa1997|Tablet and copper
15:36 rubenwardy mauvebic: food:coffee
15:36 PilzAdam bbl
15:37 mauvebic thanks :-) remind me to a make a nodebox espresso machine lol
15:40 bas080 May I request topic move http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5332
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15:40 mauvebic Computer says no
15:40 mauvebic :P
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15:41 mauvebic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY
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16:01 rarkenin Minetest needs an awesome Blendered trailer, as an official poject of the community. Just to show what is possible, take a look at thie video done for Minecraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i2AbTPspfg
16:04 celeron55 i think the closest term to describe that is "ridiculous"
16:04 mauvebic lol
16:05 hmmmm buttcoins up to $134.50
16:05 hmmmm and here i foolishly thought it'd cap at $65
16:06 celeron55 should've bought some when they still were $13
16:06 hmmmm didn't think the $32 bubble was just the beginning
16:06 mauvebic heard about the mtgox hack?
16:06 hmmmm that wasn't a hack
16:06 mauvebic gox/cox wtv
16:06 mauvebic prolly the operator
16:06 mauvebic again
16:07 celeron55 mining bitcoins with an ASIC and selling them is currently making some people pretty rich 8)
16:08 hmmmm me, i'm not a gambler
16:08 hmmmm this is no better than very unstable forex trading with no capital gains tax
16:08 Calinou bitcoins or how to occupy 2.2GB of space and bandwidth in 4 hours
16:08 hmmmm you can probably do the same by short-selling zimbabue dollars
16:09 celeron55 in the end this is going to make more people sad than happy
16:09 celeron55 but meanwhile some people are getting quite happy
16:09 celeron55 it's just that nobody has any idea what that time is 8)
16:11 hmmmm if i were smart, i'd probably seriously consider an investment strategy with some form of arbitrage so i win no matter what
16:11 hmmmm but i'm just too lazy
16:12 mauvebic dunno, id rather bank on a simple, proven small business strategy that any get rich quick scheme lol
16:12 celeron55 taking risks isn't actually very fun, especially when you know you don't really know what you're doing
16:13 mauvebic latter including complex franchise contracts lol
16:13 mauvebic dont learn if you dont take the risks, bankruptcy sucks but one gets over it :-)
16:13 hmmmm arbitrage relies on market uncertainty to earn money, in theory there's no chance of losing anything, in practice you can potentially lose some due to trading fees, taxes, etc. none of which are risks for bitcoin
16:13 mauvebic again, avoid franchises like the plague :p
16:14 celeron55 hmmmm: well, in practice you do get some costs for trading
16:14 celeron55 but for large amounts they're probably quite small
16:14 hmmmm i wasn't aware mtgox had any transaction fees
16:15 mauvebic of course, when i was still under the age limit, i was a *cough* botanist
16:15 mauvebic that doesnt pay much well either
16:16 celeron55 i guess it pays if you get to be such in some GMO lab 8)
16:17 mauvebic well yeah thats a salary not a personal business with ups and downs in prices
16:18 mauvebic or the threat of violence lol
16:18 mauvebic hence why i teamed up with ex-army
16:19 mauvebic finding a profitable business is a tough cookie tho
16:20 mauvebic father was a consultant, that always pays, uncle sold fake wine to dumb rich people, that paid until he got caught by the internal revenu
16:21 mauvebic and another uncle no one talks about and lives in mexico...lol
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16:21 mauvebic dont know what he did
16:22 markveidemanis Whoever was on my server before it crashed can come back on now
16:26 mauvebic lol anonymous hacks north korea, anyone else find them shady at best?
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16:37 mauvebic short-lived pot of coffee :(
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16:38 Doc22 lol time for second breakfast (includes complimentary pot of coffee)
16:38 Doc22 (the hobbit quote)
16:39 Doc22 err might be lord of the rings
16:39 Doc22 not sure
16:39 mauvebic breakfast: coffee and a cigarette :p
16:41 mauvebic http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liu3zeH6LZ1qzdypz.png
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16:42 ImQ009 Hello
16:42 mauvebic greetings
16:42 markveidemanis us_0gb
16:42 markveidemanis My servers up if you want to play:D
16:44 us_0gb Greetings. I'm still asleep though, and when I get up, I have overdue homework to finish.
16:44 mauvebic anyone ever built a voxelized titantic?
16:47 mauvebic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPLnnw0llBg
16:47 markveidemanis How do i force minetest to regenerate a chunk with worldedit?
16:48 Doc22 mauvebic: not me
16:48 Doc22 looks pretty epic
16:48 mauvebic i wanna spawn it but i dont yet have a waterway large enough lol
16:48 mauvebic (flat map)
16:48 markveidemanis Doc22
16:48 mauvebic unless i stick it in drydock?
16:49 markveidemanis Wanna come on my server to build?
16:49 Doc22 yes
16:49 Doc22 i cant
16:49 markveidemanis 86.165.91.19
16:49 Doc22 (grounded from video games)
16:49 Doc22 :'(
16:49 markveidemanis :(
16:49 Doc22 (note to self, dont blow up your mom's car)
16:50 markveidemanis But nobody will ever know...
16:50 ImQ009 people still get grounded these days?
16:50 Doc22 (or your dad's truck)
16:50 mauvebic shiiite, they built huge engines for it out of pistons
16:50 Doc22 idk about people
16:50 Doc22 but i do
16:50 Doc22 D:
16:50 tripod http://t.co/kJi0lXUrXo
16:50 ImQ009 tripod, whut ya doin' in' hurr
16:50 Doc22 lol
16:50 tripod being awesome
16:51 tripod ImQ009: wut you dern in hare
16:51 tripod =/
16:51 ImQ009 sittin and being awesome
16:51 Doc22 same here
16:51 Doc22 :P
16:51 Doc22 i wish i had enough money for vps
16:51 Doc22 at least there is free vps...
16:51 markveidemanis Just ask OldCoder lol
16:52 markveidemanis He hosts like 18 servers
16:52 markveidemanis And they are all super fast!!!
16:52 rarkenin Free VPSs are either scams, or laggier than running it on a TI84 with a handsoldered ethernet card.
16:52 mauvebic does he still run my ancient-ass map? my new one should kick-ass
16:52 Doc22 yeah
16:53 mauvebic dang
16:53 Doc22 i know
16:53 Doc22 but i dont wanna just mooch off of someone who pays for it
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16:53 Doc22 kinda makes me feel bummy stealing the bandwidth other people payed for
16:54 Doc22 kinda like this
16:54 Doc22 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyj3FZOkyqFffZ2uYrfGhO8y7_-42gPyrennuBk8cwSejPIMA_UQ
16:54 mauvebic lol http://youtu.be/UFKF5jjsqOY
16:55 Doc22 505 error...
16:55 Doc22 lol
16:56 mauvebic does beldner do max files? found a titanic mesh
16:56 mauvebic *blender
16:56 Doc22 3ds max you mean?
16:56 Doc22 that kind of max file?
16:57 Doc22 i think it does
16:57 Doc22 not quite sure
16:57 Doc22 i have blender on my other computer but I only use it to play around or theorize
16:57 Doc22 I find it easier to make the models in code (assuming you want blocky stuff)
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16:58 rarkenin I think there Is an importer plugin fir 3ds max IIRC
16:59 mauvebic sweet, cuz none of the meshes so far are in .blend lol
16:59 Doc22 lol
16:59 Doc22 i made a few things
16:59 Doc22 a wierd pickaxe, a wierd axe, etc
16:59 mauvebic i think i found a way to convert meshes to nodeboxes, but thats gonna take some tweaking lol
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17:01 Doc22 http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/dangerdoc44/media/crystal_cluster_zpsc714520e.png.html?sort=3&o=45
17:01 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/pick_new_zps47880485.jpg
17:01 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/sword_new_zpsc357c1b0.png
17:01 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/hoe_zpsd8b87178.png
17:02 Doc22 oh lol
17:02 Doc22 i remember making this:
17:02 Doc22 http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p524/dangerdoc44/zombie_survival_kit.png
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17:02 Doc22 I don't have much skill with blender but I can at least use it...
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17:03 mauvebic dunno if its my connection but i cant access any of those urls :/
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17:04 Doc22 huh
17:04 IceCraft Hah
17:04 Doc22 wait i know wy
17:04 Doc22 try now
17:04 Doc22 mauvebic
17:04 Doc22 do they work now?
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17:05 mauvebic wtf, i *just* signed up for 3d extras, and ive used up all my download credits? what a crock
17:05 Calinou c<ImQ009> tripod, whut ya doin' in' hurr <= that's what she said
17:06 Doc22 whuuuuuut
17:06 Calinou the
17:06 Doc22 thats cheap...
17:07 Doc22 ill model you one mauvebic :D
17:07 Doc22 (5 days later)
17:07 Doc22 mauvebic: THIS IS CRAP
17:07 Doc22 mauvebic: IMA KILL YOU AND UBERBAN YOU AND HACK YOU AND etc
17:07 mauvebic whats the point of these fake sites offering free whatevers that dont work
17:07 Doc22 ikr
17:07 Doc22 (fake site) here u can haz model
17:07 Doc22 (you) oohhhh
17:08 Doc22 (fake site) here give me 10000000000000000000$ for it
17:08 Doc22 (you) no
17:08 Doc22 (fake site) ok then ill need your debit number and pin code
17:08 mauvebic yeah ive seen some sites asking for hundreds of dollars for meshes that you find for free elsewhere (crooks)
17:08 Doc22 ya
17:08 Doc22 crazy isnt it
17:08 mauvebic i should sell hospital beds from our public health system, its about the same business model lol
17:09 Doc22 and people that charge 50$ for "expert advice" that you can get for free from actual experts on a forum
17:09 Doc22 lol
17:09 Doc22 yeah it is
17:09 Doc22 or you could sell food stamps :D
17:09 mauvebic oh yeah those so called expert websites lol
17:10 mauvebic guess they havent heard of stackexchange
17:10 mauvebic or theyre hoping you havent lol
17:13 markveidemanis www. experts-exchange.com
17:13 markveidemanis www .expertsexchange.com
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17:19 markveidemanis Zeg9
17:19 markveidemanis 86.165.91.19
17:21 Zeg9 hi
17:21 mauvebic found a titanic.c4d, cant use it lol
17:22 Calinou 6th user with a pony avatar: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81361#p81361
17:22 Calinou (may be inaccurate, ±2000)
17:22 mauvebic please tell me its a girl
17:23 bas080 is it possible to disable crafting on a server?
17:23 mauvebic remove the craft grid from the inventory
17:24 Calinou fun way: make anything placed in the craft grid disappear
17:24 Calinou suddenly, people try crafting mese pick.. hueuuee
17:25 Calinou fail laugh :P
17:25 sfan5 things i don't like: "error: cannot initialize uniforms in GLSL 1.10"
17:25 mauvebic yeah but thats a waste of real estate :p
17:26 bas080 Ok, it is defined in the default lua. great! I was thinking about a server where it is really hard to obtain tools and materials, making shops essential.
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17:29 jchadwick "Communistcraft"?
17:29 jchadwick http://minetest.net/
17:32 cisoun lolwtf
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17:32 cisoun wasn't like this 10 minutes ago
17:33 jordan4ibanez minetest.net got hacked
17:33 jchadwick yeah i know
17:33 jchadwick that's what got me
17:33 jchadwick i visited once, then i visited again and hacked
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17:33 cisoun or celeron55 is drunk.
17:34 mauvebic naw, prolly MC trolls
17:34 Doc22 who?
17:34 Doc22 what?
17:34 Doc22 wher?
17:34 Doc22 when?
17:34 sfan5 wtf?! my x pos glichted to -2.14748e+06
17:34 Doc22 :O
17:34 pandaro lol communistcraft is nice name!
17:34 Doc22 how did you move 1000000 blocks
17:34 jordan4ibanez Yeah it is
17:34 Doc22 2*
17:35 Doc22 million
17:35 mauvebic though, MC is a business, and if they condone hacking, its not good for them lol
17:35 jchadwick it's probably better than minetest in terms of getting people's attention :P
17:35 jordan4ibanez I should make a soviet wartime weapons mod to commemorate this!
17:35 jchadwick i don't see why minecraft players would hack minetest's site given minecraft is just a clone of another damn game
17:35 Doc22 ill help
17:35 Doc22 wif MISTLES
17:35 mauvebic yeah but they dont think that
17:35 Doc22 and yes
17:35 jchadwick because theyre dumb.
17:35 Doc22 i dont get it
17:35 Doc22 i play mc
17:35 Doc22 and mt
17:35 jchadwick dumby dumb dumbs
17:35 mauvebic they think notch whipped it out of his ass
17:35 Doc22 i dont have a problem with either
17:35 mauvebic and everything else is a copy of MC
17:36 Doc22 more with minecraft though
17:36 Doc22 because of them blasting mt
17:36 mauvebic quite a few of their users think we should be sued lol
17:36 Doc22 "ignore the clones" at main menu
17:36 jchadwick because theyre stupid you can't copyright gameplay
17:36 Doc22 i am not "quite a few of their users"
17:36 Doc22 now, if you used their source
17:36 Doc22 then they would have something to cry about
17:37 Doc22 i think that mc has qualities, and mt has qualities
17:37 mauvebic any idea who did this?
17:37 Doc22 i love minetest because of the ease to put mods on servers
17:37 Doc22 and no
17:37 jordan4ibanez You see: People who are minecraft fanboys, don't understand, notch stole the idea from infiniminer, minetest is a complete rewrite of minecraft, minetest doesn't use any textures/sounds except from the ones on freesound.org, which c418 essentially stole since there is no credit, even for the creative commons sounds
17:37 Doc22 i have been inactive for a while
17:37 jordan4ibanez I could go on and on
17:37 Doc22 yeah
17:37 Doc22 same here
17:37 salamanderrake so it got hacked again?
17:38 salamanderrake the site.
17:38 Doc22 yesh
17:38 jchadwick god... second time?
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17:38 jchadwick need to try harder
17:38 Hwkiller So... communistCraft
17:38 Doc22 you guyz needz better security
17:38 mauvebic so when it was down, im guessing that was DDOS?
17:38 Doc22 probably
17:38 jchadwick probably
17:38 Doc22 lol
17:38 pandaro communist security
17:38 jchadwick it was going slowly for me
17:38 jchadwick earlier
17:38 Doc22 i beat you
17:38 jchadwick not on my end :(
17:38 Doc22 i couldnt even get on yesterday
17:38 Doc22 eh
17:38 Doc22 internet lag
17:38 Doc22 WE BOTH WIN!!!
17:39 Doc22 i think that the idea of voxel worlds shoul be expanded
17:39 Doc22 instead of just one person that "owns" the idea
17:39 Doc22 mc didnt invent i
17:39 Doc22 it
17:39 Doc22 notch is cool, he doesnt care what people do with his game
17:40 jordan4ibanez doc22 want to try a nazi weapon in minetest? :P
17:40 Doc22 but jeb...
17:40 jchadwick once again, gameplay can not be copyrighted, so this should not even be an issue, seriously
17:40 Doc22 he added "ignore the clones"
17:40 jchadwick if they wanted to do anything, they can't, and never will be able to
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17:40 Doc22 and jordan4ibanez sure but not now
17:40 Doc22 i cant
17:40 Doc22 im banned from games
17:40 Doc22 for a while
17:40 Doc22 not literally
17:40 Doc22 but my parents
17:40 Doc22 ...
17:40 bas080 darwin didn't invent evolution, he did get first post
17:40 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm
17:41 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down
17:41 Doc22 jchadwick i think that if someone hacks your site and you get theyr ip, then you should be able to hack them.
17:41 frogcrush What's with the Minetest.net website?
17:41 pandaro if you write: "ignore the Clones" means you do not ignore them. In practice, he is advertising
17:41 Doc22 anyone agrees?
17:41 Hwkiller you think a hacker would leave his own stuff insecure?
17:41 jchadwick that'd be a bad idea doc22
17:41 Doc22 and frogcrush: minecraft people hate minetest
17:41 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm
17:41 jchadwick if there was a DDoS
17:41 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.255ms)
17:41 mauvebic anyone talking to the MC peeps about this?
17:41 Doc22 probably is bad idea
17:41 jchadwick it was likely done with a botnet of some sort
17:41 Doc22 HACK DA BOTNET
17:42 frogcrush Doc22: lol
17:42 pandaro no, i like MC
17:42 jchadwick like, when you hack someone's site, you don't normally do it on your own line :P
17:42 Doc22 kewl
17:42 Doc22 i do to
17:42 Doc22 too
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17:42 pandaro but MT is fantastic
17:42 Doc22 and i play mc
17:42 Doc22 im like even between them
17:42 Doc22 probably more with mine test
17:42 Doc22 because of teh epic community
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17:42 dysoco Hey
17:42 Doc22 and the awesome ways you can easily mod servers
17:42 mauvebic hopefully the hacker is american and theyll get the Aaron Swartz treatment lol
17:42 Doc22 lol
17:43 Calinou P4 treatment*
17:43 dysoco I heard the project got "hacked" or something like that? What's going on?
17:43 * Hwkiller hasn't played either mc or mt
17:43 mauvebic p4?
17:43 dysoco Hwkiller, oh he
17:43 dysoco hey*
17:43 Hwkiller I just discovered mt like... 20 min. ago.
17:43 Doc22 :O
17:43 Doc22 YAY MY HASH BROWNS ARE DONE
17:43 Hwkiller strangely enough, around the time it was hacked (seriously, just a coincidence)
17:43 Doc22 NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
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17:44 Doc22 u haxor
17:44 Doc22 lol
17:44 Doc22 hey kaeza
17:44 kaeza hey Doc
17:44 mauvebic seen the site? lol
17:45 Doc22 minetest.net
17:45 Doc22 http://minetest.net
17:45 Doc22 for ease of access :3
17:45 Doc22 to the haxed site
17:45 Doc22 ahh the site is masterpiece
17:47 frogcrush Some dev get pissed off at not getting credit?
17:47 mauvebic dunno, no confirmation on who did this yet
17:47 mauvebic presti?
17:47 mauvebic who knows
17:48 jchadwick i like how whoever hacked it made it communistcraft though
17:48 jchadwick as if that's supposed to be an insult
17:48 NotReallyNick Minetest is now called Communistcraft. No longer do we have "test" in our name. Spread the word!
17:48 NotReallyNick It seems we are keeping the minetest.net domain for legacy reasons though.
17:48 jchadwick like, i would have just gone with Shitcraft or something
17:48 jchadwick if i wanted to be insulting.
17:48 jchadwick This is just silly
17:48 Calinou lol
17:49 Calinou "#minetest @ Freenode"
17:49 NotReallyNick We're keeping our old channel too. Also for legacy reasons.
17:49 Doc22 wait
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17:49 mauvebic this new? Authors:
17:49 mauvebic Core developers: umm... how about ohloh?
17:49 Doc22 i cant even see the site
17:49 Doc22 its blank
17:50 Doc22 can someone take screeny :D
17:50 Doc22 oh nvm
17:50 Hwkiller they've added a picture now
17:50 Doc22 it showed up
17:50 Doc22 lel
17:50 Doc22 hardly insult
17:50 Doc22 unless you are a jew
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17:50 dysoco I'm just guessing late 1st April joke
17:51 Doc22 ya
17:51 Hwkiller but... why
17:51 Doc22 heh
17:51 dysoco I don't know, they even kept the download links and stuff
17:51 Hwkiller why would someone do a april 1 joke on april 4?
17:51 Doc22 idk
17:51 Doc22 they were late
17:51 Doc22 didnt get one for april foolz
17:51 dysoco Hwkiller, I do jokes all the time!
17:51 Doc22 IT WUZ U
17:51 NotReallyNick Because it's no joke. We're Communistcraft now.
17:51 Doc22 lool
17:51 dysoco In Communistcraft: Blocks mine you
17:51 frogcrush Better snatch that domain quickly
17:51 Doc22 i like that
17:52 Doc22 blocks mine you
17:52 Doc22 i can haz da domain
17:52 Doc22 after my one hour blacklisting goes away
17:52 NotReallyNick Doc22: We're Communist, not Russian.
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17:53 Doc22 ya but look at the symbol
17:53 Matsetes Hi!
17:53 Doc22 its russian
17:53 Doc22 on the site
17:53 Hwkiller CommunityCraft wouldn't be a bad name though
17:53 Hwkiller given the modability
17:53 Doc22 and besides
17:53 Doc22 i didnt make it up
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17:53 Doc22 and yes
17:53 NotReallyNick Okay, you win this round, Doc22.
17:53 Matsetes Where disappeared the mod Stairs+?
17:53 mauvebic uhm, the hammer and sicle have been used by other countries/flags
17:53 Doc22 heh
17:53 Doc22 DING DING
17:53 Doc22 K.O.
17:53 Doc22 Doc22 WINS
17:54 Hwkiller it was a soviet symbol, was it not?
17:54 Doc22 yes
17:55 HolyPhoenix Anyone know why the site is now communistcraft?
17:55 frogcrush On the Download page, is there a reason 0.4.6 and 0.4.5 link to a different site than all the others?
17:55 Doc22 lol people are going to go to the site and be like "WTF i thought this was minetest..."
17:55 NotReallyNick Because the developers no longer want a name with "test" in it. We are a REAL game now.
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17:56 Doc22 oh yeah
17:56 Doc22 (bad to the bone plays)
17:56 mauvebic so... any news if that was intentional, or a hack?
17:56 NotReallyNick It was most likely a hack.
17:56 Doc22 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CDwQFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX9bOsdHckhg&amp;ei=yb5dUYuGFs_vqQGX1IHgBA&amp;usg=AFQjCNETK2pFSc7DrePsb91oLJpbx3IaTw&amp;sig2=OCMo71cGk01E5TbSL7lJJg&amp;bvm=bv.44770516,d.aWM\
17:56 HolyPhoenix WEll, I don't know if I want to play a game called communist craft
17:56 Doc22 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CDwQFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX9bOsdHckhg&amp;ei=yb5dUYuGFs_vqQGX1IHgBA&amp;usg=AFQjCNETK2pFSc7DrePsb91oLJpbx3IaTw&amp;sig2=OCMo71cGk01E5TbSL7lJJg&amp;bvm=bv.44770516,d.aWM
17:56 Doc22 oops
17:56 Doc22 lol
17:56 Doc22 click second one
17:56 Doc22 b-b-b-b-baaad to the bone
17:57 Doc22 mmm i love hash brauns
17:59 ihaxedtheminetes aww
17:59 ihaxedtheminetes too short
17:59 ihaxedminetest hello peoples
17:59 mauvebic any moderators in the house?
17:59 Doc22 lol
17:59 Doc22 :3
17:59 Doc22 iiiits ok
18:00 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/jhmntZZ.png better
18:00 Doc22 lol omg yes
18:00 Doc22 BIG GUNZ
18:00 Doc22 does it function?
18:00 Doc22 ARE THERE MISSILES?!?!?!?!
18:01 Doc22 machine guns? ^_^
18:01 jordan4ibanez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afr_hkycJ-Q
18:01 Doc22 and you need better textures ill help with that
18:01 Doc22 what theme do you want
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18:01 Doc22 ie blue camo, red camo, green camo, etc
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18:01 Doc22 nuuu
18:02 Doc22 502 error
18:02 mauvebic well, with this kinda of shitty-ass security, i have absolutely no confidence in the community taking over mod distribution with a centralized repo lol
18:02 frogcrush lol
18:02 jordan4ibanez c55 changed the name, it wasn't hacked
18:02 frogcrush Where is c5?
18:02 frogcrush c55**
18:02 mauvebic did he say that?
18:03 jordan4ibanez I cannot reveal anymore as I am a ghost
18:03 jordan4ibanez awhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
18:03 Doc22 lol
18:03 mauvebic lol well so far gotten no confirmation one way or another
18:04 Doc22 jordan
18:04 Doc22 what kind of texture..
18:04 Doc22 describe it
18:04 Hwkiller Hm.. my eval was canceled, so I don't have anything to do
18:04 Hwkiller except be on here
18:04 Hwkiller i hope it's not actually named communistcraft; that would a stupid name
18:05 Hwkiller not anything against communism, it'd just be a stupid name.
18:05 mauvebic well, except maybe the gulags
18:05 Doc22 lol
18:05 mauvebic ive seen quite a few russians in canada get quite pissed off at the sight of a hammer and sickle
18:05 Doc22 no kidding
18:05 Doc22 ...
18:06 mauvebic though if it were celeron who changed it, wouldn't the forums be updated too?
18:07 Doc22 nah
18:07 Doc22 that'd be a lot o work
18:07 mauvebic to change Minetest forums to commiecraft forums?
18:07 Hwkiller except... s/minetest/communistcraft/g ?
18:07 Doc22 well
18:07 Doc22 idk
18:08 Doc22 depends on the software
18:08 Doc22 smf isnt very easy to do
18:08 Doc22 hold that thought
18:09 Doc22 brb
18:09 mauvebic well, when someone knows something definitive poke me :P i gotta find a titanic/lusitania mesh somewhere, somehow lol
18:09 mauvebic tho, google results could suck the sweat off a dead man's balls lately.
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18:20 Doc22 'ello
18:20 Doc22 juust got back
18:20 Doc22 had to check on my dad
18:20 Doc22 cot a lizard
18:20 Doc22 caught*
18:20 Doc22 lol
18:20 Doc22 cute little guy
18:20 Doc22 fast
18:21 Doc22 now, where was i
18:21 Doc22 oh yes, cherry seven up
18:21 Doc22 :)
18:21 NotReallyNick Nice.
18:21 * Calinou makes "inception" look
18:21 Doc22 lol
18:21 NotReallyNick I don't see any lizards in my area.
18:21 Doc22 i talk to much
18:21 Doc22 where do you live
18:22 NotReallyNick But sometimes I find a garder snake, and those are fun.
18:22 Doc22 i live in eastern new mexico so yeah i see em a lot
18:22 Doc22 and yes
18:22 Doc22 i havent seen any snakes, surprisingly
18:22 NotReallyNick I live in the western United States.
18:22 Doc22 me too
18:22 Doc22 what state
18:23 Doc22 im in east new mexico
18:23 Doc22 do you have horny toads?
18:23 Doc22 those are fun
18:23 NotReallyNick I'm in western Oregon. The half that ISN'T a desert.
18:23 Doc22 ahhh
18:23 Doc22 ok so you are north
18:23 Doc22 that explains the lack of lizards
18:23 Doc22 :P
18:23 NotReallyNick I haven't seen any toads, but sometimes I see tiny frogs.
18:23 Doc22 yeah
18:24 Doc22 i used to be in georgia,
18:24 Doc22 and there ware the tiniest little frogs
18:24 Doc22 less than a centimeter long
18:24 NotReallyNick I think I've seen some of those, in a tank.
18:24 Doc22 they jumped like 7 feet though
18:24 Doc22 wow
18:24 Doc22 i also have two pet lizardxs
18:24 Doc22 lizards
18:25 Doc22 leos
18:25 NotReallyNick Never mind. The things I saw don't jump.
18:25 Doc22 leopard gecko
18:25 Doc22 lol
18:25 Doc22 once i saw a turtle :)
18:25 NotReallyNick I don't really have any cold blooded pet, but I have a cat.
18:25 Doc22 i have a dog
18:25 Doc22 german shepherd
18:25 NotReallyNick Turtles are interesting to watch.
18:26 Doc22 yes they are
18:26 Doc22 the turtle i saw,
18:26 Doc22 he was just going in a random direction
18:26 Doc22 he was dry
18:26 Doc22 as a bone
18:26 Calinou http://minetest.net/ <= background becomes red when the page is fully loaded
18:26 Doc22 and we gave him a watery spot
18:26 Calinou not when loading it :P
18:26 Doc22 but he just kept going
18:26 Doc22 hmm
18:26 Doc22 detailed hack ;d
18:26 NotReallyNick Hmm. Turtles don't do well when dry.
18:27 Doc22 ik
18:27 Doc22 good thing we gave it water (my folks)
18:27 Doc22 he was determined to go south
18:27 Doc22 and he just kept going
18:27 Doc22 didnt stay long for the water
18:27 Doc22 his shell was really cracked
18:28 Doc22 must've been in the desert a long time
18:28 NotReallyNick Why was the turtle on land, anyway? I guess you wouldn't know that though.
18:28 Doc22 because it is desert
18:28 Doc22 where i live
18:28 Doc22 on the north side of a town
18:28 Doc22 and the water we gave it
18:28 NotReallyNick Desert? Turtles can't survive in the desert. Could it have been a tortoise?
18:29 Doc22 was a ring that we give trees water in
18:29 NotReallyNick They do just fine without water.
18:29 Doc22 and it might have been a tortoise
18:29 Doc22 but his shell was really cracked
18:29 NotReallyNick Did it have fins or feet?
18:29 Doc22 like he had been in the desert a long time
18:29 rubenwardy (6:19:32 PM) rubenwardy: yeah, capitalism
18:29 rubenwardy (6:19:51 PM) celeron55: hey, i've got a new name for us: Communistcraft
18:29 Doc22 it had feet
18:29 Doc22 or i think actually fins
18:29 Doc22 between toes
18:29 Doc22 not long like penguin
18:30 Doc22 the town im in has turtles commonly though
18:30 Doc22 snappers
18:30 Doc22 :D
18:30 NotReallyNick Hmm. It shouldn't be in the desert then. It'll die.
18:30 Doc22 my grandma used to have a snapping turtle called murtle
18:30 Doc22 and i think the same thing
18:30 Doc22 but i cant explain it
18:30 Doc22 im not the turtle
18:30 Doc22 whatever it is,
18:30 Doc22 he was determined to go south
18:31 NotReallyNick Maybe turtles are more resilient than I give them credit for.
18:31 Doc22 yeah
18:31 Doc22 there are some trees
18:31 Doc22 farther north
18:31 Doc22 where he came from
18:31 Doc22 so maybe there is a farm
18:31 Doc22 if you look north where i am
18:31 Doc22 its just plains
18:31 Doc22 no houses
18:31 Doc22 nothing
18:31 Doc22 but a few trees
18:31 Doc22 in one area
18:32 Doc22 just below horison
18:32 Doc22 horizobn
18:32 Doc22 HORIZON
18:32 rubenwardy (6:19:32 PM) rubenwardy: yeah, capitalism
18:32 rubenwardy (6:19:51 PM) celeron55: hey, i've got a new name for us: Communistcraft
18:32 rubenwardy The change was a joke by c55
18:32 Doc22 lol
18:32 NotReallyNick We have trees everywhere in our area. It's a very green place.
18:32 Doc22 ok then
18:32 Doc22 yeah
18:32 Doc22 oregon is greeny
18:32 Doc22 from what ive heard
18:32 Doc22 ooh ooh
18:32 Doc22 i know
18:32 Doc22 PETZ MOD
18:32 Doc22 we should make it
18:33 mauvebic we have more welfare recipients than trees around here lol
18:33 NotReallyNick Western Oregon is anyway, not eastern Oregon.
18:33 Doc22 dogs and lizards and turtles
18:33 Doc22 and yes mauvebic i agree
18:33 Doc22 too much obamacare
18:33 NotReallyNick SO it was changed by Celeron55 himself? Okay, cool. Not hacked then.
18:33 rarkenin I really don't know much about the biomes in the US. They are clearly not Perlin-based.
18:33 Doc22 yeah
18:33 Doc22 but i like perlin noise D:
18:33 Doc22 i wanna make some cool algorithms
18:34 mauvebic not american
18:34 Doc22 what country?
18:34 mauvebic and im talking about welfare, not healing the sick
18:34 Doc22 yeah
18:34 Doc22 same here
18:34 Doc22 obamacare isnt about healing the sick.
18:34 Doc22 its about giving free money to people that dont want to work
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18:34 Doc22 sooo
18:34 Doc22 yeah
18:34 mauvebic how does cash get into their hands from a health program?
18:34 Doc22 heres the thing
18:35 Doc22 it isnt a health program
18:35 Doc22 people vote for obama so they can get free handouts
18:35 rarkenin I don't know much about the economy, and honestly, I don't want to think about it.
18:35 mauvebic you know who the biggest welfare recipients are in your country right? banks, contractors, etc.
18:35 Calinou people vote for obama so they can get VAT
18:35 Calinou just like us :D
18:35 Doc22 yea i know
18:35 rarkenin All I know is that Bitcoins are rising gradually.
18:35 Calinou rarkenin: the economy, powered by 150 660Tis.
18:35 Doc22 but look at the millions of people who are getting free moneyu
18:35 Calinou (and three titans)
18:36 Doc22 they dont work
18:36 Calinou Doc22: "free money"... @_@
18:36 rarkenin Calinou: I am saving up for a Titan.
18:36 Doc22 they arent sick
18:36 Doc22 they arent handicapped
18:36 Calinou rarkenin: haha
18:36 Doc22 its free for them
18:36 mauvebic how old are you?
18:36 Doc22 oh i see
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18:36 Doc22 lol
18:36 Calinou actually, on the long run, it may not be that expensive compared to buying 3-5 mid-end cards
18:36 Doc22 free money
18:36 rarkenin Doing Blender odd jobs, Bitcoins, and working at a robotics and engineering summer capm.
18:36 Doc22 took me a sec to understand it
18:36 mauvebic do you have your own health insurance, or you still mooch off your parents?
18:36 Calinou graphic card gens are going to last longer and longer, so you'll have highest-end performance until 2014 (maxwell/oland), high-end performance until 2016...
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18:36 Doc22 i have my own health insurance
18:37 Calinou so you can keep it for a while, except if it fries :P
18:37 jordan4ibanez lol c55's been drinking :P http://www.thecoveralls.org/vili/tb/tt3.jpg
18:37 Doc22 payed for by my parents
18:37 Doc22 :)
18:37 Doc22 im 14
18:37 Doc22 whatddya expect
18:37 Calinou on top of that, the titan uses as much power as my 570 iirc, but is twice as fast :P
18:37 Doc22 a 14 year old isnt going to have his own health insurance
18:37 Calinou but used 570s are almost 10 times cheaper :P
18:37 mauvebic well until you actually have to pay bills for yourself, you should reserve judgement until then, then you can say whatever you want
18:38 Doc22 ...
18:38 Doc22 i know because i see it
18:38 Doc22 in the people around me
18:38 rarkenin I worry so obsessively about overheating that I panic for 5 degrees celsius over normal temps.
18:38 Doc22 and my parents
18:38 Doc22 they feel the same way
18:38 mauvebic they pay bills
18:38 Doc22 and most of the people i know
18:38 Doc22 yes they do
18:38 mauvebic theyre entitled to bitch, and vote, you aint
18:38 Doc22 and my dad spent 40 years in the military
18:38 Doc22 30*
18:38 mauvebic its easy to complain when you're taken care of
18:38 Doc22 ...
18:39 Doc22 you dont even live in america
18:39 Doc22 im not complaining
18:39 Doc22 im stating
18:39 mauvebic thank god
18:39 Doc22 that obamacare
18:39 Doc22 is a load of bs
18:39 Doc22 for lazy people
18:39 Doc22 that dont wanna work
18:39 mauvebic so you've worked?
18:39 Doc22 and you see people that want to use their obamacare to buy a new iphone 5
18:39 mauvebic paid for your computer?
18:39 Doc22 yes
18:39 Doc22 i bought a 1600 pc
18:39 Doc22 that i saved for
18:40 Doc22 over several years
18:40 Doc22 and put it together myself
18:40 Doc22 I KNOW
18:40 Calinou rarkenin: my CPU doesn't even hit 40°C in load, and I slightly overclocked it :P
18:40 Calinou my graphic card reaches 50°C or so in load
18:40 Doc22 wow
18:40 jordan4ibanez doc22 try to type in one sentence
18:40 jordan4ibanez so
18:40 mauvebic several years,, you're 14, what kind of work are we talking about?
18:40 Calinou 60°C at worst
18:40 jordan4ibanez you're
18:40 jordan4ibanez not
18:40 jordan4ibanez spamming
18:40 Doc22 ok
18:40 Doc22 sorry
18:40 jordan4ibanez like this
18:40 rarkenin Two of my GPUs are overclocked for Blender use.
18:40 Calinou true spirit 140 on the CPU + define XL R2 as case
18:40 Doc22 yes i will type in full sentences from now on
18:40 Doc22 instead of
18:40 Doc22 spamming
18:40 Doc22 LD
18:40 Calinou rarkenin: how did you overclock kepler cards under linux?
18:40 Doc22 :D
18:41 Calinou the nvidia driver doesn't let you do this as of fermi, no?
18:41 rarkenin No, I reboot into Windows for that. :(
18:41 Calinou heh
18:41 Doc22 i havent even checked my cpu temp
18:41 Calinou you could also flash bios, but that's risky
18:41 Doc22 but i know that its cool
18:41 Calinou (did anyone ever try this?)
18:41 * NotReallyNick shutters at the thought
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18:41 Calinou Doc22: desktop or laptop?
18:41 Doc22 i have a new mobo that has auto flashing for bios
18:41 Doc22 desktop
18:41 Calinou my netbook's monocore CPU is at 40°C on idle, 55°C on load
18:41 Calinou ...monocore, 1.6ghz
18:41 Doc22 you put in flash stick
18:41 Doc22 and push a button
18:41 rarkenin Yeah, it's sad, but I can only do so much at default clock sped.
18:41 Calinou my quadcore 4.0ghz is much cooler
18:42 Doc22 and it puts bios on a sick
18:42 Doc22 stick
18:42 Calinou Doc22: my mobo has TWO bioses
18:42 Doc22 mine too
18:42 Calinou one can be used if you brick the other one
18:42 Doc22 a graphical uefi
18:42 jordan4ibanez So does mine
18:42 Calinou Doc22: what's your mobo? :P
18:42 jordan4ibanez xD
18:42 Doc22 and a backup one
18:42 Doc22 asus sabertooth x79
18:42 jordan4ibanez it has relife also, so I can use any bios I want. >:D
18:42 Calinou oh, you're the guy with a 3930K?
18:42 Doc22 pretty schweet mobo
18:42 Calinou or 3820, forgot
18:42 Doc22 yeah
18:42 Calinou Z77 MPOWER here :P
18:42 Doc22 the 300$ one
18:42 Calinou 3820 then
18:42 rarkenin I did a ton of GRUB reconfig, and it will reboot into W1nd0w$, run the render, and shut down right away if a file is in a ceratin location.
18:42 Doc22 i dont need a better cpu
18:43 Doc22 never gets above 40%
18:43 Doc22 my mobo is awesome
18:43 Calinou a 3820 is worse than a 3770K, except on programs which need a lot of RAM bandwidth and you're on quad channel
18:43 Doc22 just to tell you how awesome
18:43 rarkenin Coreboot is a good idea, but I haven't set that up yet.
18:43 Doc22 it has 64gb ram
18:43 Doc22 that is overkill
18:43 Calinou on asus, you pay the brand a lot
18:43 Doc22 big time
18:43 Calinou remove the "xtreme x-fi audio" sticker on your audio chip, see what's below
18:43 Doc22 the rest is soo epic
18:43 Calinou ...a via chip
18:43 rarkenin 16 gigs here. =(
18:43 Calinou 8
18:43 Doc22 i dont care too much about the audio
18:43 Calinou (to be in dual-channel)
18:43 Doc22 and i need some prescision audio
18:43 Doc22 for something
18:43 * Calinou should migrate to his 256GB 840 pro soon :P
18:44 Doc22 then i can get a pci card
18:44 Calinou when 13.04 is released i'll do that
18:44 Doc22 wow
18:44 Calinou 525MB/s in sequential reads, 135MB/s on the HDD :P
18:44 Doc22 256gb
18:44 Calinou fastest consumer desktop SSD as of today
18:44 Calinou (not counting raid)
18:44 Doc22 i have like 600mb/s ssd read
18:44 Doc22 :)
18:44 Calinou raid?
18:44 Hwkiller put ssd in raid, watch your computer take-off
18:44 Doc22 no
18:44 Calinou pci-e?
18:44 Doc22 just a 128 gb ssd
18:44 Calinou Mb or MB? :P
18:44 Doc22 my mobo has raid build in though
18:45 Doc22 Mb
18:45 Calinou then it sucks
18:45 Calinou my HDD is faster
18:45 Calinou (in terms of sequential read, not access time :P)
18:45 Doc22 wait oh Megabits or MegaBytes
18:45 Doc22 its MB
18:45 Calinou ah
18:45 Doc22 sorry
18:45 Calinou which SSD?
18:45 Doc22 lel
18:45 Doc22 its a crucial
18:45 Doc22 M4 i think
18:46 Hwkiller I have the same one I think
18:46 Hwkiller in my netbook though
18:46 Doc22 to top it off, i have a 20$ cd drive
18:46 Calinou a crucial M4 will never go at 600MB/s
18:46 Hwkiller I boot to login in ~3 seconds
18:46 Doc22 rlly?
18:46 Calinou it's slower than a 840 pro in general :P
18:46 Doc22 hmm
18:46 Doc22 well its pretty dang fast
18:46 Calinou the 840 pro is expensive for a reason, go read some reviews of it :P
18:46 Doc22 boots in like 5 seconds
18:46 Calinou anyway, sequential speeds don't matter much
18:46 Doc22 yeah
18:46 Doc22 i wouldnt know
18:46 Calinou fiability, performance on small files, etc
18:46 Doc22 im not that expereinced
18:47 Doc22 after all im 14
18:47 Doc22 but i know a lot for a 14 year old
18:47 Hwkiller and you type in many
18:47 Doc22 in general,
18:47 Hwkiller lines for
18:47 Hwkiller a 14 year old
18:47 Calinou no,
18:47 Calinou really?
18:47 Doc22 is it more efficient to have a few larger files
18:47 Doc22 or many small ones
18:47 Doc22 i type 56wpm
18:47 Calinou for read/write speeds? yes
18:47 Doc22 im programmer
18:47 * Calinou types 96wpm :P
18:47 Doc22 ok
18:47 Doc22 wow
18:47 Calinou http://speedtest.10fastfingers.com/
18:47 Doc22 thats amazin
18:48 Hwkiller I top out at around 96
18:48 Hwkiller Not sure what my avg is
18:48 Hwkiller I'm fastest on my netbook; lemme try on my work computer
18:49 * Calinou just beat his record in typing test
18:49 Doc22 got 59
18:49 Doc22 lol
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18:50 Calinou http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/temp/keyboard_suffering.jpg
18:50 Calinou ^^^^
18:50 Hwkiller 113 on an unfamiliar keyboard :)
18:50 Calinou better than 98.64%
18:50 Hwkiller You are better than 98.97% of all users (position 1061 of 103126
18:50 Hwkiller oh ho!
18:50 Calinou I'm better than all the windows ans OS X users combined \o/
18:50 rarkenin I'm a slow typist.
18:50 Calinou (btw, my keyboard is a G11)
18:50 Calinou gaming keyboard \o/
18:51 Doc22 lol
18:51 Hwkiller this is a crappy dell keyboard; I'll try on my netbook later
18:51 Hwkiller I fly on that thing
18:51 Doc22 i have a sticky keyboard
18:51 rarkenin My keyboard is really bad.
18:51 Doc22 so yeah
18:51 Doc22 old
18:51 Doc22 like 8 years old
18:52 Calinou mine isn't mechanical :>
18:52 Doc22 109 wpm... thats crazy
18:52 Doc22 mine isnt either
18:52 Doc22 it haz soda splls and shiz
18:52 Doc22 spills
18:52 Hwkiller 116 that time
18:52 Doc22 :O
18:52 Doc22 i havent found a good keyboard that  i like
18:52 Doc22 for under 100$
18:52 rarkenin 81st percentile. 60 WPM.
18:53 Doc22 50 is my goal
18:53 Doc22 for cost
18:53 Doc22 of keyboard
18:53 rarkenin I prefer http://play.typeracer.com since its text is coherent English.
18:53 Doc22 ill try it
18:54 Hwkiller 128rpm on that one, rarkenin
18:54 Hwkiller I won the race :p
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18:54 rarkenin 67 WPM. :/
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18:55 Calinou if I really concentrate I'd get 120WPM at most
18:55 Hwkiller oh wtf, it accused me of cheating
18:55 Calinou haha
18:55 Hwkiller 138rpm
18:55 Hwkiller bam
18:56 rarkenin I suck at typing since my joints are slightly messed up.
18:56 Calinou rig them then
18:56 Calinou <animator joke>
18:57 rarkenin Alluding to Blender armatures>
18:57 rarkenin '?
18:57 Doc22 lol
18:57 Calinou yeah
18:57 Doc22 im obviously not as good as you gusy
18:57 Doc22 but im pretty good :)
18:57 Doc22 guys*
18:57 Doc22 gusy XD
18:58 Doc22 anyhow, i gtg
18:58 Doc22 bye guys
18:58 rarkenin I start out fast, get slow and erronous, and pick up the pace at the end again.
18:58 Hwkiller I did worse the last two times in the race one.
18:59 Hwkiller ~90wpm
18:59 Hwkiller But heck yes; 138wpm on the test meant to assess whether I'm cheating :p
18:59 Hwkiller That said, I never think fast enough to actually type 138wpm in any real scenario.
18:59 STHGOM happy Easter everybody!
18:59 rarkenin Very nice, I wish I could type faster.
19:00 rarkenin I mean, it IS the 21st century. Typing will probably get you farther than swimming. :P
19:02 STHGOM hahaha
19:02 NotReallyNick As long as you aren't comparing both activities in the water.
19:02 STHGOM hahahahaha
19:02 rarkenin Pfft.
19:03 NotReallyNick * rarkenin types while swimming most of the time
19:03 rarkenin I really can't. My hands are far from each other most of the time. But, I could tie two waterproof single-handed Dvoraks to my wrists...
19:04 NotReallyNick Maybe that's why you don't type quickly ...
19:04 rarkenin Then while diagnosing why Blender refuses to flip its normals, I bash my head into the end wall since I was staring at a waterproof laptop, not the floor markings.
19:05 rarkenin Not a good idea.
19:05 NotReallyNick No, not at all a good idea.
19:05 NotReallyNick You shouldn't try to multitask to such extremes.
19:05 STHGOM dorvak? as in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard ?
19:06 kaeza that's wht Windows is for
19:06 kaeza what*
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19:06 rarkenin STHGOM: Yeah. They have singlehanded ones.
19:06 STHGOM hi
19:06 STHGOM oky
19:06 NotReallyNick Widows is for what? Making your computer quit working?
19:06 rarkenin Windows is used as a ballast when throwing computers into water.
19:07 Menche Windows screws up my clock when i boot into it
19:07 rarkenin I mean, penguins are more hydrodynamic than panes of glass.
19:07 STHGOM HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
19:07 Menche i swear it takes several reboots to install one set of updates
19:07 rarkenin But apples rot in water.
19:07 kaeza ^
19:08 NotReallyNick Apple rot anywhere. But so do penguins. And windows shatter and cut your hands.
19:08 rarkenin Penguins are better than apples.
19:09 NotReallyNick I'm not sure you can compare such unlike objects.
19:09 STHGOM yes, they taste good.
19:09 Menche lolipops are better than unicorns.
19:10 NotReallyNick Maybe that's because lolipops are real.
19:10 STHGOM yummy
19:10 rarkenin I have an idea! Let's argue about operating systems by competing in an unrelated activity... Like competitive wirewinding.
19:10 kaeza NotReallyNick, for the same reason you can't compare different operating systems
19:11 Calinou or just start another amd-vs-intel war, rarkenin
19:11 rarkenin Funnnnnnnnnnn.
19:11 Calinou buut... intel is already inside
19:11 NotReallyNick How about we not try to compare things such as panes of glass and penguins, as they have nothing to do with the operating systems they represent.
19:11 Calinou </trollface>
19:11 STHGOM what does CDP mean in the public server thingy?
19:11 Menche UDP?
19:11 Calinou creative do... no, creative-damage-pvp
19:11 Menche oh, those
19:12 STHGOM oke
19:12 STHGOM gotit
19:12 NotReallyNick I don't see CDP listed.
19:12 Calinou C = creative, D = damage, P = pvp, * = empty passwords disallowed
19:12 kaeza NotReallyNick, how about you stop mindlessly bashing Windows users then?
19:13 mauvebic found a Bismarck mesh, no titanic :(
19:13 Calinou ^ this should be added in the multiplayer menu, some kind of key
19:13 STHGOM bash bash
19:13 kaeza sorry, but I'm getting sick of this crap
19:13 rarkenin NotReallyNick: We need an emergency clearobjects on your server right about now.
19:13 Calinou +1 kaeza
19:13 Hwkiller I don't think he was bashing windows *users*, just windows
19:13 Calinou ^
19:14 Hwkiller unless I missed something
19:14 Menche hopefully the map isn't too big for a clearobjects
19:14 rarkenin He has a modified clearobjects that works in a different fashion.
19:14 NotReallyNick kaeza: How about they stop using the worlds worst operating system then.
19:14 Calinou NotReallyNick: deal with it
19:14 STHGOM worst?
19:14 kaeza Hwkiller, I can cite several posts here and on the forums where he clearly calls Windows users "stupid"
19:14 NotReallyNick The map is way to big for a regular /clearobjects.
19:14 Calinou some people need windows for their day job, some for games, some for photoshop/premiere/indesign/whatever
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19:15 Hwkiller kaeza: ah, so I did miss something
19:15 Hwkiller :p
19:15 Menche Apple makes me use windows; the *only* thing I use it for is iTunes.
19:17 mauvebic droning on and on about windows says one thing, its not really about windows at all lol
19:17 mauvebic youre average user doesn't give a shit if they use something else
19:17 STHGOM hello OldCoder!
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19:18 NotReallyNick Okay, objects cleared. Since that item drop update, there has been dropped cobble everywhere ....
19:18 Menche item drop update?
19:19 NotReallyNick If your inventory is full, you can still dig, but the dug node is dropped as an item. Instead, it should not let you dig if your inventory is full.
19:20 Calinou hello, renewable lava
19:20 kaeza lol
19:20 * Calinou slaps NotReallyNick with the "how not to let poisonous people ruin your OSS project" book from google
19:20 NotReallyNick Hello? Don't you mean goodbye?
19:20 Calinou really, these "build" and "survival" games are stupid
19:20 Calinou we could just use renewable_lava minetest.conf setting instead of having two additional repos
19:21 Menche i don't see that much difference between the two
19:21 Calinou see
19:21 NotReallyNick I know! I want the conf setting too.
19:21 Calinou survival, build and minetest_game is what CoolBits 32 is too CoolBits 64 is to CoolBits 128
19:21 NotReallyNick Also, why slap ME? *I* didn't want the repo split.
19:21 Calinou well... sorry. :P
19:21 kaeza Calinou, unless PilzAdam starts actually adding some survival stuff (read: until some mobs are fast) there is not much point in separate repos
19:22 Calinou we could just have settings and not different games
19:22 NotReallyNick He added bones, which is something.
19:22 Calinou different games would be suitable for eg, a game that emulates minetest 0.3.3, or minecraft
19:22 NotReallyNick Bones should be in common though.
19:22 STHGOM أعتقد يجب أن تكون حماية الأصناف النباتية للحماية.
19:22 Menche i don't get the point of the "safe" bones in "build"
19:22 Calinou STHGOM: "favo" looks like "lava", we know.
19:22 NotReallyNick The point is to allow bone blocks to build graveyards.
19:23 STHGOM muahaha
19:23 NakedFury what is it with bones? when you die there is a bone where you died with all your items?
19:23 STHGOM Creo PvP debería ser para la protección de las creaciones.
19:23 NotReallyNick With bones, yes. With safe bones, not inventory loss, bjust a bone block.
19:24 Calinou safe bones could instead be called "hey look, i died here" blocks
19:24 NakedFury should always lose items on death. part of the risk of playing survival
19:24 Calinou and write that text on the block
19:24 Menche maybe have it leave gravestones?
19:24 Calinou we could have an "hardcore" setting for that, NakedFury :P
19:24 Calinou why not?
19:24 NotReallyNick The safe bones is in the build game, not the survival game.
19:24 Calinou it makes the game much more challenging
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19:25 Calinou you can't eternally travel with mese tools and sword
19:25 Calinou if we have actually challenging mobs, you're NEVER going to travel around with these for long
19:25 Calinou (unless you just put yourself in a 1x2 box of stone)
19:25 jordan4ibanez max_hear_distance doesn't work when looping?? or is it because it is connected to an object?
19:29 kaeza sparky, ¿qué?
19:29 celeron55 < Calinou> really, these "build" and "survival" games are stupid <- you can propose something else if you wish to
19:30 NotReallyNick We propose that settings be added, as we had proposed before the split.
19:30 rubenwardy bye all
19:30 kaeza bye
19:30 NotReallyNick Bye.
19:30 celeron55 but really, history shows that we aren't really able to develop minetest_game to suit everybody's needs
19:30 celeron55 it's where that change came from
19:31 NotReallyNick With conf settings, we CAN though.
19:31 celeron55 we're seeing if it'd work better that way
19:31 NotReallyNick Well, do what you will. You said to propose something, and I did.
19:31 STHGOM bye
19:32 celeron55 PilzAdam: ^ take note
19:32 celeron55 the settings should be saved per-world though
19:32 NotReallyNick YES! Definatly per world.
19:32 celeron55 there does not exist any facility for such currently
19:32 Calinou definitely*
19:32 celeron55 and hever has existed
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19:32 kaeza yeah. these settings can fuck up existing worlds if changed
19:33 paxcoder !up mt1.gameboom.net
19:33 MinetestBot mt1.gameboom.net:30000 seems to be down
19:33 PilzAdam I dont like to give users the ability to change the game
19:33 Calinou jordan4ibanez: use mono sound?
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19:33 Calinou any sound connected to an objet must be mono
19:33 mauvebic why not?
19:33 PilzAdam they should have the freedom to choose a game, but not just pick the parts they want
19:33 PilzAdam thats too boring
19:33 mauvebic why not
19:33 NotReallyNick Each world should have it's own minetest.conf on any serious server.
19:33 rubenwardy I got 43 words per minute
19:33 rubenwardy http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english
19:33 mauvebic youd rather put up with endless complaints about lack of configurability lol
19:33 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: How is it boring to have choices?
19:33 Calinou minetest.conf settings are the way to go
19:34 rubenwardy "You are better than 64.81% of all users"
19:34 Calinou prefix them with "game_" maybe, to not mix them with engine settings, or make them per-world
19:34 PilzAdam a game should be challenging and there should be parts you dont like very much but you have to do them
19:34 PilzAdam that makes it interesting
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19:34 mauvebic naw it just makes them go elsewhere
19:34 Calinou at least, I'd like to see renewable_lava and remove_items_on_death settings
19:34 STHGOM you should be able to select minetest chat
19:34 Calinou what mauvebic said
19:34 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: A chalenge is the whole point of SOME worlds. But NOT the whole point of ALL worlds.
19:34 PilzAdam mauvebic, if everything is not good, then yes
19:35 Calinou PilzAdam: look at red eclipse, a lot of users are pissed of instagib. but it's not going to be removed, else a lot of users would leave
19:35 mauvebic on the assumption that the one calling the shots is always right and knows what everybody else wants
19:35 paxcoder ruskie, 67
19:35 mauvebic the latter has been consistently proven wrong
19:35 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, well, the build is game is were you have no challenge
19:35 Calinou mark shuttleworth says "+1", mauvebic.
19:35 STHGOM i do not like insta-gib >:(
19:35 kaeza paxcoder, 26 :(
19:36 PilzAdam survival shouldnt be configureable
19:36 PilzAdam either you can handle it, or you die :-)
19:36 mauvebic people switch to linux because they dont like theyre OS calling the shots, so imagine an OSS game doing more of the same lol
19:36 mauvebic *their
19:37 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: Okay. Make survival not configurable. But put configurable stuff in common, where custom games can use it. Override the configuration in survival with your difficult settings.
19:37 PilzAdam common is just the base, and everything that needs to be configureable should be done in the actual games
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19:37 mauvebic i mean, what if i wanted to make, say, a space survival, and im stuck with all these elements i dont want, do i have to fork?
19:38 STHGOM howdy
19:38 thefamilygrog66 hey folks, was the minetest.net site hacked?
19:38 NotReallyNick Yeah, you have to fork, because there is no configuration.
19:38 NotReallyNick No, apperently that's a joke by celeron55.
19:38 thefamilygrog66 oookay
19:38 Calinou "The average WPM on 10fastfingers is 42 WPM. This number is extracted from over 14 million tests, spread out over 41 languages."
19:38 STHGOM hahaha
19:39 mauvebic 20$ for a half finished titanic mesh, wtf lol
19:40 kaeza mauvebic, welcome to the commercial world :)
19:40 paxcoder OT: There's this technology where you can place something resembling a pill in the ground, and then it draws power and material from it, self-assembles, and then converts solar energy into material that can be processed into fuel
19:40 STHGOM 0.4.6 is still called minetest though :D
19:41 mauvebic naw in commerce they sell a finished product, and its usually their ownj
19:41 mauvebic *own
19:41 celeron55 mauvebic: considering the work required and the potential amount of customers, that sounds reasonable :P
19:41 NotReallyNick 0.4.7 and the dev version are Communistcraft.
19:41 mauvebic i mean half these websites grab free meshes to try to sell them
19:41 celeron55 well then it's crap
19:41 * Calinou beat his record
19:41 Calinou 112wpm :P
19:41 Calinou 0 wrong words!
19:42 paxcoder it's called plants: http://www.zawarudo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/mind-blown-2.gif
19:42 paxcoder Calinou, what try is that?
19:42 kaeza I only type with one hand
19:42 kaeza (if you know what I mean)
19:42 thefamilygrog66 gross
19:42 Calinou paxcoder: what do you mean by "try"?
19:42 paxcoder Calinou, how many times did you "try"?
19:42 thefamilygrog66 nice eric wareheim gif
19:43 mauvebic "medieval boat" == got imperial walker lol
19:43 STHGOM i could do 542 wpm if all i was typing is "bla"
19:43 Calinou paxcoder: http://10fastfingers.com/user/66977/
19:43 STHGOM who still plays 0.3.1?
19:43 Calinou (when I did the try with 109wpm earlier, I wasn't logged in)
19:44 * paxcoder uses his second language card
19:45 paxcoder STHGOM, digital ghosts at Kray
19:45 Calinou kray was shut down like 6 months ago
19:45 Calinou ...no?
19:45 thefamilygrog66 what's changed in 0.4.6?
19:45 Calinou Kray: oh hai :P
19:45 paxcoder it was shut down, yes
19:46 Kray sup
19:46 OldCoder Hi
19:46 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, see the changelog that is linked in the forum topic
19:46 kaeza hi OldCoder
19:46 thefamilygrog66 cool thanks adam
19:46 OldCoder kaeza, pleased to c u
19:46 * mauvebic crosses fingers
19:46 kaeza same here OC
19:47 STHGOM novo minetest e muito bom
19:47 mauvebic sweet, finally found it
19:47 STHGOM 0.4.6 e muito bom
19:47 mauvebic some random file on 2shared lol
19:48 mauvebic wasnt really worth register to 4 different mesh sites but wtv lol
19:49 STHGOM e muito novo
19:49 mauvebic thought this was an english channel lol
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19:50 STHGOM hahaha
19:50 STHGOM i was just being goofy
19:50 kaeza STHGOM can speak english and google translate :P
19:51 mauvebic test spawning titanic...
19:51 kaeza *googletranslatish
19:51 STHGOM :D
19:52 STHGOM i will say something without translating it with google
19:53 STHGOM umm...
19:53 * Calinou is currently talking titanic.
19:53 Calinou blublblbluublub
19:54 mauvebic ugh, shoulda removed those cords/strings from the mesh lol
19:55 STHGOM muito bom
19:56 * kaeza reached 800 forum posts
19:56 mauvebic look any good? http://ompldr.org/vaHpucA/screenshot_3600637610.png
19:56 STHGOM :D
19:56 mauvebic (ignore the saucer section of the enterprise above)
19:57 Calinou the saucer is going to crush it :P
19:57 STHGOM muito bom mauvebic!
19:57 mauvebic looks, small tho
19:58 kaeza how long is it?
19:58 kaeza looks like ~150m
19:58 mauvebic i went with 269 length but the upper decks are unwalkable
19:58 mauvebic you can see the opening where the deck should be, but its 1node high lol
19:59 STHGOM you should make the Death Star!
19:59 mauvebic it wouldn't fit on a standard map
19:59 mauvebic (looked into it lol)
19:59 mauvebic ok so lets cheat and use 369
19:59 STHGOM ok then make a star destroyer
20:00 kaeza make the Highwind
20:00 mauvebic problem with starwars ships is they are rather ordinarily shaped, you could build easily by hand
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20:01 mauvebic not sure if 'by hand" means anything in english tho lol
20:02 mauvebic 'a la main' == manually?
20:03 STHGOM what do you mean by hand?
20:03 mauvebic legit style
20:03 * mauvebic pictures dancing koreans
20:03 celeron55 i hate star trek ships because they're so round
20:04 mauvebic thats why i didn't just down the fed ones :p
20:04 mauvebic cardassians, klingons
20:04 mauvebic only romulans are too big
20:05 thefamilygrog66 borg ship <> round
20:05 mauvebic fuck me
20:05 mauvebic its diagonal
20:05 mauvebic no wonder it looks like crap
20:07 NakedFury im with you celeron
20:08 NakedFury star trek ships just suck, no impressive at all
20:08 STHGOM they fly too
20:08 NakedFury the design is completely horrible for accesibility and probably wasted materials in construction
20:09 thefamilygrog66 screwdriver and bones, nice
20:10 mauvebic according to the designers up to 1/3 of some of the ships were empty on the inside, no compartments or anything
20:10 NakedFury ^wasted space+materials
20:10 thefamilygrog66 hey, once I've finished making a new mod, how do I go about moving the forum post from modding general to mod releases?
20:11 NakedFury you dont. only moderators do that for you
20:11 NakedFury follow the Mods posting rules and they will move it
20:12 STHGOM ooOOOoooo.......
20:12 thefamilygrog66 sounds good, thanks nakedfury
20:12 * STHGOM it looking at the 0.4.6 menu...
20:12 NakedFury pics or it a lie
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20:14 BlockMen_ hi everyone
20:15 NakedFury hi
20:15 STHGOM hellooo
20:15 mauvebic better: http://ompldr.org/vaHpueQ/screenshot_3601767405.png
20:15 STHGOM what is the build?
20:15 STHGOM for making worlds
20:17 BlockMen_ mauvebic, that looks great
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20:18 mauvebic i think the wife will like :-)
20:22 NakedFury mauvebic seeing that makes me think that we need rope like nodes that arent just ropes done like pipes. but an actual rope mechanic like it would be in real life
20:22 mauvebic doesnt sound like much fun to implement though lol
20:22 Menche set the endpoints, and have long entities strung together between them?
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20:23 Menche idk how you could make the rope actually sag
20:23 NakedFury would they act like real ropes? moving when pushed by the player? being round-ish maybe being tight or slack when the player wants?
20:24 mauvebic does the current physics even support it?
20:24 Menche not sure if you could do all that with the current api
20:25 Menche maybe it could calculate where the rope is, and put small spherical entities all along it
20:25 Menche recalculate and redraw it when pushed
20:26 mauvebic with so many people complaining about the time it takes to /clearobjects, not sure adding hundreds more entities will help
20:26 Menche make a large ship like that and watch your server lag into oblivion :P
20:26 mauvebic nor would you still have a rope after /clearobjects
20:26 Menche would it be possible to make dropped items disappear after, say, 10 minutes?
20:27 NakedFury they should
20:27 NotReallyNick Yeah, use PilzAdam's biultin_item plugin.
20:27 STHGOM like in mc
20:27 NotReallyNick *builtin
20:27 rarkenin The database would need to give them an age and a last active.
20:27 mauvebic just reconfigure drop items to record when they were dropped
20:27 NakedFury that should actually be a default feature
20:27 rarkenin For optimal performance.
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20:27 Menche i think i'll try that
20:27 NotReallyNick I don't think they should disappear. It should be optional.
20:27 WiredOnLinux Communistcraft :p
20:27 rarkenin Doing it in Lua is slow, though.
20:27 mauvebic works for bullets
20:27 Menche either make them vanish, or fix /clearobjects so it works
20:28 kaeza oh mah gawds! my secons submission to memebase made to the front page XD
20:28 kaeza -s+d
20:28 Menche the alternative is to have tons of entities all over the place
20:28 mauvebic someone said clearobjects loads the whole map into memory, dunno if thats true
20:28 NakedFury after a while dropped items should dissapear to remove the extra useless stress they are giving the game/engine
20:28 WiredOnLinux as anyone seen the new minetest website/
20:28 WiredOnLinux ?
20:28 NotReallyNick I fixed my local copy of /clearobjects. It takes less than a second, but only clears loaded objects.
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20:28 Menche my map was 300M, it filled up nearly 7G of memory
20:28 PilzAdam WiredOnLinux, no</sarcasm>
20:28 kaeza WiredOnLinux, I think it got hacked
20:28 Menche (that includes swap, i don't have that much)
20:28 PilzAdam kaeza, :D
20:28 WiredOnLinux lol
20:29 NotReallyNick No, it's a joke by celeron55.
20:29 NotReallyNick Not a hack.
20:29 Menche it crashed, and never actually cleared that
20:29 WiredOnLinux ok
20:29 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, why do you tell him?
20:29 kaeza NotReallyNick, :(
20:29 WiredOnLinux I thought celeron55 was making it a community game
20:29 NotReallyNick Yeah, that's why I had to fix my local /clearobjects.
20:29 WiredOnLinux ok, just was wondering :p
20:29 NotReallyNick PilzAdam: Sorry, I didn't know it was a secret.
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20:29 Calinou 'night everyone
20:29 NotReallyNick Night.
20:29 PilzAdam NotReallyNick, it isnt
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20:30 PilzAdam but its funny that people think it got "hacked"
20:30 kaeza nite
20:30 Calinou a small maptools update was released: permanent fire, fake fire, invisible igniters
20:30 playzooki wait, who did that thing
20:30 Calinou and admin pickaxe no longer drops anything when mining stuff
20:30 NotReallyNick Did what?
20:30 NotReallyNick Never mind.
20:30 playzooki you know to the website
20:31 Menche LOL
20:31 * Menche sees the minetest.net website
20:32 playzooki i dont think its that funny
20:34 PilzAdam BlockMen_, can you update this to 0.4.6? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest
20:35 Menche but seriously, I really hope the site is changed back soon
20:35 BlockMen_ why are you releasing that fast. 5 days ago i got chip.de to update to 0.4.5 ...
20:35 BlockMen_ and i can do, but i dont think today
20:35 PilzAdam k
20:36 PilzAdam BlockMen_, I got chip to update to 0.4.4 two months after release or so :-)
20:36 Menche so why is minetest.net like that?
20:37 BlockMen_ PilzAdam, seems they get faster then :D
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20:43 BlockMen_ gd n8t everyone
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21:11 mauvebic i knew this would happen : got sucked into a documentary on olympic class ocean liners lol
21:16 VanessaE afternoon all.
21:17 NotReallyNick Good afternoon, yourself.
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21:22 kaeza afternoon V
21:26 Uberi joined #minetest
21:26 VanessaE hey
21:27 Uberi hey VanessaE
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21:35 jojoa1997|Tablet pilzadam ping
21:35 PilzAdam pong
21:35 jojoa1997|Tablet http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81481#p81481
21:35 jojoa1997|Tablet that will explain stuff for now on
21:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: did you add the missing copper blocks?  if not, do it ;)
21:35 jojoa1997|Tablet github is useless to me on my pc :(
21:36 jojoa1997|Tablet and i cant copy and paste on tablet so i am stuck to the mediafire app
21:36 jojoa1997|Tablet please update pilzadam all the aliases are done
21:36 Uberi what? we have copper now?
21:36 VanessaE Uberi: yeah.
21:36 NotReallyNick Yeah, there's copper.
21:37 Uberi in the default games?
21:37 kaeza hmm...
21:37 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, added your link to the first post
21:37 VanessaE gold, copper ores, bronze allow (copper+steel), diamond all added.
21:37 VanessaE s/allow/alloy/
21:37 jojoa1997|Tablet k
21:37 PilzAdam Uberi, dont you use 0.4.6?
21:37 Uberi oh wait I minute I remember now
21:37 Uberi PilzAdam: don't play survival much :)
21:37 jojoa1997|Tablet also could you update the github readme thingy to add me to contributors
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21:37 jojoa1997|Tablet since i did rewrite the basis of it all
21:38 PilzAdam you can do it
21:38 jojoa1997|Tablet no i cant
21:38 jojoa1997|Tablet remember
21:38 jojoa1997|Tablet github is useless to me on my pc :(
21:38 VanessaE so fix it. :)
21:38 jojoa1997|Tablet and the tablet i can really only use github to download
21:38 Uberi why's that jojoa1997|Tablet?
21:39 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae my mom blocked it
21:39 Doc22 :O
21:39 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: then get her to *un* block it.
21:39 Uberi what? why on earth would your mother block GitHub?
21:39 jojoa1997|Tablet she will block everything that isnt school stuff
21:39 Doc22 because of that one virus download
21:39 PilzAdam block your mother :-)
21:39 VanessaE Uberi: she's trying to ground him from games
21:39 Doc22 lol
21:39 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah but haha she cant
21:39 Doc22 i have that right now...
21:39 Doc22 thats why im not playing
21:39 Doc22 D:
21:40 VanessaE serves both of you right for not using your computers responsibly :)
21:40 NotReallyNick If you listen to lamefun, Github is evil. That's why it's blocked.
21:40 mauvebic appropriate repost: http://youtu.be/UFKF5jjsqOY :p
21:40 jojoa1997|Tablet vanessae she blocked it because i played more than half a day over break
21:40 VanessaE NotReallyNick: yeah but at least he finally shut up here with his javascript evangelism.
21:41 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: this constitutes "irresponsible" usage also.
21:41 jojoa1997|Tablet it was sprong break with all the homework done
21:41 Doc22 really, just my life was falling appart
21:41 jojoa1997|Tablet i asked her if i could play
21:41 VanessaE at your age you shouldn't be using a computer more than an hour or two a day anyways.  you've got other shit you should be doing - like going out with friends or so
21:41 Doc22 so i needed break from stuff
21:41 Doc22 i dont have friends
21:41 Doc22 :'(
21:41 * NotReallyNick giggles about the idea that all non-JavaScript languages would possibly be banned
21:41 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i am getting a new phone
21:41 VanessaE NotReallyNick: I know.  Insane, huh?
21:41 mauvebic dont force kids to make friends they dont want to - i hated that
21:42 jojoa1997|Tablet 0gb you want to get rid of C++ and lua
21:42 Doc22 i want friends, but not the bummy ones
21:42 Doc22 i dont wanna get into drugs D:
21:42 VanessaE mauvebic: if we don't keep teaching our children to go out and make friends, we end up with the trash we have in our political offices.
21:42 NotReallyNick If you force freindship, it won't be real freindship anyway.
21:42 Doc22 i want friends...
21:42 jojoa1997|Tablet Doc22 wANNA BE FRIENDS OF THE BANNED
21:42 Doc22 umm
21:42 Doc22 idk
21:42 Doc22 maybe
21:42 jojoa1997|Tablet yay
21:42 Doc22 :/
21:42 Doc22 ?P
21:43 jojoa1997|Tablet get me a way to bypass bsecure NOW
21:43 Doc22 ?:P
21:43 NotReallyNick jojoa1997|Tablet: LAMEFUN wants languages banned. *I* don't.
21:43 mauvebic the trash we have in politics is less the result of lack of friends and more attributable to fawning admiration for Ayn Rand
21:43 Doc22 lol no
21:43 Doc22 i dont want banned D:
21:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i have freind
21:43 jojoa1997|Tablet s
21:43 VanessaE NotReallyNick: he wants all programmable devices banned except in the hands of big-name corps
21:43 mauvebic ive found the social butterfly types to be the dumbest breed ive ever come across
21:43 Doc22 /msg jojoa1997|Tablet ok heres the tunnel etc.... blah blah blah
21:43 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i got a new phone that isnt android so i might get a way to upload to github
21:43 mauvebic they talk and talk and talk about nothing
21:43 NotReallyNick VanessaE: Yeah, that too.
21:44 * jojoa1997|Tablet blows up the world
21:44 * jojoa1997|Tablet if i cant have github then no one can
21:44 NotReallyNick Get a new git host.
21:44 mauvebic alot of people are so desperate for friends they lie all the friggin' time
21:44 Doc22 lol yeah
21:44 Doc22 mom didnt think of that :3
21:44 NotReallyNick Github isn't the only place thet does free git.
21:44 Doc22 i want friends
21:44 Doc22 but im not a lier
21:44 Doc22 i want REAL friends
21:45 Doc22 that dont just want me cuz im cool or because they can cheat off of my work
21:45 Doc22 etc
21:45 mauvebic and some people seek out friendship purely out of self-interest
21:45 mauvebic ie, what you can do for me
21:45 Doc22 probably a girl :/
21:45 mauvebic but dont ask me anything
21:45 Doc22 (dont worry, im a guy)
21:46 Doc22 so no lesbian today
21:46 jojoa1997|Tablet my mom is blocking the site github
21:46 mauvebic i didn't hate school, i hated people :p
21:46 jojoa1997|Tablet so it cant access github.com
21:46 jojoa1997|Tablet i love school but i love quiet more
21:46 rarkenin Who blocks GitHub?
21:46 Doc22 same here buddy
21:46 mauvebic in fact, i learned much faster doing correspondance courses
21:46 Doc22 HIS MOM
21:46 Doc22 yeah
21:46 Doc22 same here
21:47 rarkenin I know.
21:47 Doc22 i have leard SOOOOOO much with just google
21:47 rarkenin Github is a legitimate programming site. Nothing like free-XXX_VidS-free.com
21:47 mauvebic i had the poorest attendance in school, with 99% and 100% in maths and sciences lol
21:47 Doc22 perlin noise, java, html, css, php, lwjgl, blender, texturing, etc
21:47 rarkenin And what fool DDoSed it recently?
21:47 Doc22 notme
21:48 Doc22 i actually don't know much about github
21:48 Doc22 i want to learn more
21:48 Doc22 but I also want to know more about other things
21:48 Doc22 :/
21:48 Doc22 haven't really just sat down and looked at it
21:48 jojoa1997|Tablet rarkenin my mom blocks all sites not relating with homework
21:48 Doc22 hmm...
21:48 mauvebic so use a live image
21:48 jojoa1997|Tablet my only bypass is my tablet and my new phone that will be charged up tomorrow
21:49 mauvebic or a proxy
21:49 Doc22 german sentence in rosetta stone: "Eine toilete"
21:49 Doc22 im getting an ipad soon
21:49 jojoa1997|Tablet this program is the best out there
21:49 Doc22 :)
21:49 rarkenin I use GitHub for completing CS homework every two days... It's clearly not an illegitemate site.
21:49 Doc22 ^_^
21:49 Doc22 o, spp ja[[u
21:49 jojoa1997|Tablet proxies dont work
21:49 Doc22 wow
21:49 Doc22 fingers were in bad pos
21:49 jojoa1997|Tablet and mymmom checks all my programms
21:49 Doc22 lulz
21:49 mauvebic dont forget to clear the cache
21:49 Doc22 get something that doesnt register in windows
21:50 Doc22 or save cache
21:50 mauvebic and hiding porn in /temp files isn't fooling anyone
21:50 jojoa1997|Tablet one sec
21:50 Doc22 no kidding
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21:50 Doc22 not that i have any thing to hide
21:50 NotReallyNick I have to use some pretty bogus things for school, being for school doesn't make it legitimate, rarkenin.
21:50 Doc22 i dont need any addictons
21:50 jojoa1997|Tablet forum.minetest.net
21:50 Doc22 = bad
21:50 Doc22 for me
21:50 Doc22 my whole life almost fell apart a month ago
21:50 Doc22 D:
21:50 rarkenin No, I'm saying that it is useful for homework AND legitimate.
21:51 jojoa1997|Tablet http://bsecure.mobi/product_page_internet_filter2.html
21:51 PilzAdam Doc22, jojoa1997|Tablet, if your moms block sites for you, its probably the best for you
21:51 jojoa1997|Tablet no
21:51 Doc22 my mom doesnt
21:51 jojoa1997|Tablet well
21:51 Doc22 she isnt techy enough
21:51 Doc22 and she doesnt have to
21:51 jojoa1997|Tablet it was around 2 months ago when i didnt do homeworkj for days
21:51 Doc22 lol
21:51 mauvebic mothers' dont always know best :po
21:51 rarkenin You... delinquent...
21:51 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: and THAT is why,.
21:52 jojoa1997|Tablet my mom is the computer tach of my family and i am very techy
21:52 VanessaE to be fair, you deserved it.
21:52 Doc22 yeah
21:52 jojoa1997|Tablet but now i dont
21:52 Doc22 nobody i know is into computers
21:52 VanessaE (though two months' worth of such grounding is excessive imho)
21:52 Doc22 idk how i got into them
21:52 jojoa1997|Tablet but it was also a 3 week long winter break
21:52 Doc22 i just always wanted to learn about them
21:52 mauvebic i had to work for everything, tv, computer, washing 18 wheelers at 13 & 14, but not my sisters :p
21:52 Doc22 and i finally just startd
21:52 Doc22 started
21:52 jojoa1997|Tablet uh this has been going on for half a year
21:52 Doc22 with C++
21:52 Doc22 then i started doing Java
21:52 Doc22 then html php css etc
21:53 mauvebic 'course, my parents were incredibly outmoded lol
21:53 jojoa1997|Tablet my mom has taught me how to bypass the system and always save files in hidden folders inside a regular folder that is inside a hidden folder
21:53 Doc22 lol
21:53 jojoa1997|Tablet my mom creates her works website and is the tech for all there problems
21:54 jojoa1997|Tablet though it isnt her job
21:54 jojoa1997|Tablet really helpfull when pc messes up though
21:54 rarkenin I'm doing odd jobs and renders with Blender as the only computer-oriented person in the house.
21:54 Doc22 so are you into computers at all?
21:54 Doc22 ohhh...
21:54 Doc22 ive bricked one computer that i had soo many times
21:54 Doc22 thank you Boot and nuke
21:54 Doc22 DBAN
21:54 rarkenin My parents and brother cannot function without a giant chrome icon in the dead center on the desktop, and a giant arrow pointing to it for the desktop backgrround.
21:54 Doc22 lol
21:55 Doc22 i dont care
21:55 jojoa1997|Tablet ?
21:55 Doc22 as long as my icons are organised
21:55 mauvebic my mother and sister can't operate computers without letting just about anybody install random shit
21:55 Doc22 and it isnt solid white
21:55 mauvebic "trust me! its better!"
21:55 rarkenin I don't use a GUI half the time.
21:55 Doc22 heh
21:55 mauvebic ends with "can you fix my computer?"
21:55 Doc22 i use guis if they are easily available
21:55 Doc22 but otherwise i love command line :)
21:56 Doc22 but i wish i knew more about linux cmd line
21:56 rarkenin After giving up on making them type ONE command to get into a GUI, I ended up making them buy a separate computer although they already have another one.
21:56 mauvebic even though i saved up a year for my computer, i was never paid for the countless times i had to reinstall win95, win98, and the dreaded winME
21:56 Doc22 i know that feeling bro
21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet i use only guis
21:56 jojoa1997|Tablet but i also didnt know what a command line was before minetest
21:57 NotReallyNick I use the GUI for local stuff, and the command line for remote stuff and compiling. Also for dealing with Github.
21:57 Doc22 i hate apple except on ipads
21:57 Doc22 macs are soo hard for me to use
21:57 Doc22 and so restrictive
21:57 NotReallyNick I like Macs, but I like Ubuntu more.
21:57 * Menche likes Arch linux
21:57 jojoa1997|Tablet my new phone http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-C395-xpression/technical-specifications
21:57 mauvebic ^
21:57 Doc22 i like windows best (what? I grew up on it) and then Ubuntu, then any other linux, then any other os, then mac
21:58 mauvebic i had to give up on windows after smashing my 6th or 7th keyboard, they cost 40$+ back then lol
21:58 Doc22 lol
21:58 Menche nearly all of my family are huuge Mac fans
21:58 Doc22 yeah
21:59 Doc22 the only apple things my family has are two ipods
21:59 mauvebic when windows ME came out, i thought of self-immolation, but gas prices had gone up
21:59 Doc22 and soon an ipad
21:59 Doc22 i like the ipads
21:59 Doc22 but not the macs
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet rarkenin
21:59 Doc22 and ipods are too small (my fingers are huge)
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet minitest is now alot like minecraft
21:59 Doc22 minitest?
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet has tnt flint and renmed every block
21:59 Doc22 minetest*
21:59 jojoa1997|Tablet minitest
21:59 Doc22 communistcract**
21:59 Menche it has tnt and flint now?
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet it is a game that is meant to resemble minecraft
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet yes
22:00 rarkenin Yeeeeessssss?
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet and gold tools
22:00 Doc22 budder..
22:00 Menche in default?
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i plan on adding other stuff this weekend
22:00 mauvebic communistcraft: pure creative gameplay where the nodes get easier and easier to break :p
22:00 jojoa1997|Tablet lapiz lazul/emeralds/dye
22:00 mauvebic with exploding homedecor TVs lol
22:00 Doc22 lol
22:01 jojoa1997|Tablet and cactus and papyrus fall when digging bottom one
22:01 mauvebic well that makes senses, floating plants and all
22:02 Doc22 http://insovietrussiajokes.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/spoon-bends-you/
22:02 Doc22 In matrix, you bend spoon
22:02 Doc22 In soviet russia, spoon bends you!
22:02 mauvebic technically, if a pipe is full of oil, that should explode too
22:03 mauvebic (in communistcraft)
22:03 Menche the site's back to normal now
22:04 Menche what was that anyway?
22:04 mauvebic lol
22:04 mauvebic c55's late april fools
22:04 Doc22 yeah
22:05 Doc22 did anyone screenshot it?
22:05 Menche yeah, someone got a screenshot on the forums
22:05 Doc22 ok good
22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet what does the OS proprietary mean
22:05 jojoa1997|Tablet ?
22:05 VanessaE it means a company wrote it, kept the source code secret, and sold it.
22:05 rarkenin It means it is made by a company, and is closed-souce with trade screts.
22:05 mauvebic my cat's a commie: when i pick her up, she pets me
22:06 VanessaE and won't tell others how the program's internals work
22:06 VanessaE hence Windows is a proprietary OS, Catalyst is a proprietary video driver, etc.
22:06 Doc22 like halo
22:06 Doc22 or black ops 2
22:06 jojoa1997|Tablet ok so
22:06 Doc22 i like opengl better then catalyst :)
22:06 jojoa1997|Tablet how can i figure out the platform
22:06 Doc22 for?
22:07 VanessaE the platform means whatever combination of OS and hardware design
22:07 jojoa1997|Tablet or OS
22:07 VanessaE e.g. X86 with Windows, or AMD64 + Linux, etc.
22:07 Doc22 if i make anything good, i want to share it with people
22:07 Doc22 like my video game
22:07 jojoa1997|Tablet lg xpression
22:07 Doc22 i want to sell it and make a living on it
22:07 jojoa1997|Tablet that is what i am trying to find
22:07 VanessaE that's your phone?
22:07 Doc22 but i dont want to keep it closed source
22:08 jojoa1997|Tablet mom upgraded
22:08 Doc22 i will be easy about sharing my code
22:08 jojoa1997|Tablet only touchscreen phone that i could get free with the 2 year plan
22:08 Doc22 i could have an online feature that is hosted by me where you have to buy it if you want it
22:09 VanessaE free?  you've been duped.
22:09 Doc22 like being able to play on servers
22:09 VanessaE you're paying for the phone as part of your contract.
22:09 Doc22 aaaaand another person got duped
22:09 kaeza DING! lamefun mk2: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=81488#p81488
22:09 VanessaE if it says the OS is proprietary, then the platform is probably also.  Usually phones run some variant of ARM these days I think.
22:10 Doc22 lamefun :D
22:10 VanessaE kaeza: naw, that's not so bad.  he's just advocating adding support for a newer C++ is all, I think
22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet well my mom controls it
22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet also i cant get a smart phone that needs a data plan
22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet so that cuts down the selection
22:10 jojoa1997|Tablet it is better than my current phone way better
22:11 VanessaE whereas lamefun wants to ban all programmable devices and force everyone to abandom everything except javascript and html5
22:11 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: don't get a data plan.
22:11 VanessaE use WiFi instead
22:11 VanessaE data plans are an insane ripoff
22:11 mauvebic true dat
22:11 jojoa1997|Tablet i know but my mom wont pay for one
22:12 mauvebic id rather login to the nearest unsecured wifi lol
22:12 mauvebic or sometimes, poorly secured wifi lol
22:12 jojoa1997|Tablet i would only us wifi but i also got my better res and bigger tablet
22:12 Doc22 mickey-d's
22:12 VanessaE most modern phones can already do WiFi.  you just have to let it connect through your LAN.
22:12 Doc22 use their wifi
22:12 jojoa1997|Tablet my school has wifi
22:12 mauvebic alot of people just dont change their default WID or password lol
22:12 Doc22 yeah
22:12 Doc22 login,
22:12 jojoa1997|Tablet anyways i cant have a "smart phone"
22:12 Doc22 change password
22:13 Doc22 change wep code
22:13 VanessaE jojoa1997|Tablet: you don't need a smartphone if you have a tablet.
22:13 Doc22 :3
22:13 mauvebic UPS is notorious for this lol
22:13 Doc22 true dat
22:13 VanessaE tablets do everything "smart" phones do, but they do it better.
22:13 Doc22 i have neither
22:13 Doc22 so im getting a tablet
22:13 Doc22 why do i need a phone
22:13 VanessaE (except that tablets of course don't do too well at phone calls ;) )
22:13 Doc22 who would i call
22:13 Doc22 yeah
22:13 mauvebic ugh tablets, having the hold it up or crane my neck, no thanks lol
22:14 mauvebic my back is already killing me
22:14 VanessaE Doc22: sooner or later you'll find reason to call someone....such as 9-1-1 (or whatever your region uses)
22:14 mauvebic 999 in UK
22:14 mauvebic i think
22:14 VanessaE right
22:14 Doc22 yeah
22:14 Doc22 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTv7b9RyTu62Q9_NJKCL8QP6jJZfhTXYUTl_318sCiwR95CxxbEhg
22:14 Doc22 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZYGc3hBXKNX3lZmzrIqpWEUyhgqqNOolFguWzLZOPYdgubFJ5mw
22:14 Doc22 lol
22:15 Doc22 for now, i dont really need a phone
22:15 VanessaE Doc22: which is why we have a cheap prepaid cell phone.  costs us $30/mo for max 1000 mins + 1000 text messages
22:15 mauvebic best option
22:15 Doc22 dont phones let you call 911
22:15 mauvebic you can even get cheap data on prepaid
22:15 VanessaE we don't use more than a quarter of that, but it's there if we need it and it's the cheapest plans
22:15 Doc22 whetehr theyre paied or not
22:15 VanessaE Doc22: cell phones do, yes.
22:15 Doc22 ok then my moms old cell phone
22:15 Doc22 ding!
22:16 Doc22 get a cheap small solar panel at radioshack
22:16 Doc22 and im set
22:16 mauvebic of course, i didnt have my wife when i signed onto the smartphone contract, now i regret it lol
22:16 Doc22 lol
22:16 VanessaE Doc22: what about ordering in for chinese?  or calling your doctor?
22:16 Doc22 i dont like chinese
22:16 mauvebic or calling your chinese doctor?
22:16 Doc22 D:
22:16 VanessaE ok, deli then
22:16 VanessaE or pizza
22:16 VanessaE or whatever
22:16 Doc22 im too far for pizza delivery but i just use my home phone
22:16 Doc22 im 14 remember
22:17 VanessaE exactly.
22:17 VanessaE you're only 14.
22:17 Doc22 soooo
22:17 VanessaE you've got another 70+ years ahead of you.
22:17 mauvebic i have to carry a phone unfortunately, been ambulanced a few times for panic attacks and people wonder where ive been
22:17 VanessaE you will need a phone soon enough :)
22:17 Doc22 not what i meant
22:17 Doc22 but yeah
22:17 rarkenin Is there a way to query a connected user's IP address without banning them?
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22:17 Doc22 i probably do
22:18 jojoa1997|Tablet shoot
22:18 mauvebic otherwise having the boss being able to reach you at any time, drives me nuts
22:18 Doc22 right now, getting a subscription for me on a phone is just donating 20+ dollars a month to verison/at&t
22:18 Doc22 erc
22:18 jojoa1997|Tablet i just read some reviews and it says there is no wifi
22:18 Doc22 get
22:18 Doc22 a
22:18 Doc22 ipad
22:18 Doc22 get
22:18 Doc22 a
22:18 Doc22 ipad
22:18 mauvebic that can fit in one line
22:18 Doc22 ik
22:18 jojoa1997|Tablet cough cough see name
22:18 Doc22 im just making it obvious
22:18 Doc22 :3
22:18 jojoa1997|Tablet cough cough see name
22:19 Doc22 cough cough but is your "tablet" a ipad
22:19 jojoa1997|Tablet ANDROID AMZING TABLET
22:19 Doc22 oh ok
22:19 jojoa1997|Tablet better
22:19 jojoa1997|Tablet though i do wish it had github
22:19 mauvebic who codes on a tablet?
22:19 Doc22 cough cough wheeze snort* (spits booger) Cough wheeze**snort**(uses kleenex)
22:19 mauvebic except gnome devs
22:20 Doc22 im going to when i have mine
22:20 Doc22 theres an app called textasti
22:20 Doc22 textastic
22:20 Doc22 with code correction
22:20 mauvebic textstasi?
22:20 Doc22 for tons of languages
22:20 Doc22 textastic
22:20 mauvebic ahh
22:20 Doc22 and apparently it has ftp abilities :)
22:20 Doc22 coding at mickey-dees
22:20 Doc22 ahh
22:20 mauvebic yall know tablets are consumption devices right?
22:20 Doc22 yes
22:21 mauvebic ok lol
22:21 Doc22 especially apple
22:21 mauvebic apples are fashion devices
22:21 Doc22 but who's to keep me from enjoying the comforts of home pc on the go
22:21 mauvebic and an indicator of how easily someone is willing to part with good money lol
22:21 Doc22 and yes i know
22:21 Doc22 but i am like 50/50 between producer and comsumer
22:21 Doc22 so i want lots of games
22:21 mauvebic i shit you not: some of my former colleagues would pad the bills of iphone users lol
22:22 Doc22 lol
22:22 mauvebic "tape fee" and such lol
22:22 Doc22 i know people that are like 10 and have iphones
22:22 mauvebic and they paid
22:22 Doc22 i used to have friends
22:22 Doc22 EVERY person in their family
22:22 Doc22 had a phone
22:22 Doc22 and they were complaining about how they cant afford to get fast food
22:22 mauvebic had to leave my friends in montreal
22:23 Doc22 i moved like 9 times in 14 years
22:23 mauvebic i tried bringing them along in hermetically sealed containers, didn't work
22:23 Doc22 lol
22:23 Doc22 same here
22:23 Doc22 but most of the move
22:23 Doc22 moves
22:23 Doc22 i didnt have time to make friends
22:23 Doc22 :'(
22:23 Doc22 i have a handfull of good friends
22:23 Doc22 but most of em are far away
22:23 mauvebic me i just couldn't take the metro anymore, and montreal is a big enough city that you cant walk everywhere
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22:24 Doc22 gtg in a sec
22:24 jordan4ibanez minetest's new theme http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Padanaya%20Blokov.mp3
22:24 Doc22 kinda has a medievel touch
22:24 Doc22 in background
22:24 Doc22 :O
22:25 Doc22 medieval
22:25 Doc22 medeival
22:25 Doc22 whatever
22:25 Doc22 lol
22:25 NakedFury russian?
22:25 Doc22 maybe
22:25 Doc22 idk
22:25 Doc22 he is making a communist weapons mod
22:25 Doc22 :D
22:26 Doc22 ok well guys i gtg
22:26 Doc22 so ill c u later
22:27 jojoa1997|Tablet yay
22:27 jojoa1997|Tablet i found a git client for android apk
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22:28 mauvebic mmm more coffee - had chills for 4 days
22:28 STVMGOM hi
22:29 LAD joined #minetest
22:29 mauvebic was the titanic red white and black? all i find are paintings or monochromatic pictures
22:29 LAD ... would any one direct me to the 0.4.6 change log?
22:29 mauvebic pilzadam has the link i think
22:29 mauvebic its on the forums in the anouncement too
22:30 PilzAdam LAD, see the forum topic
22:30 LAD ...?
22:30 mauvebic 0.46 anounce thread
22:30 LAD i found it onec and i always forget where to find it after hmm
22:30 LAD ok
22:31 LAD and where would that be?
22:31 mauvebic general i think
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22:31 PilzAdam in "General Discussions"
22:31 LAD ... ok
22:31 LAD thanks
22:32 LAD found it .thanks  :)
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22:33 LAD i would call 0.4.6 the green update
22:34 LAD or train upstae since there also new ores
22:35 LAD what does lava not renewible any more mean??
22:36 LAD hmmmmm singlenode mapgen sounds intresting
22:37 jordan4ibanez http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Motivator.mp3 this reminds me of nascar heat!
22:37 VanessaE LAD: it means lava won't keep rebuilding when you scoop some up.  it is finite, not infinite now.
22:37 rarkenin Can mossy cobble be crafted?
22:37 jordan4ibanez no
22:37 LAD .. ok
22:37 VanessaE rarkenin: some mods can do that.
22:37 rarkenin But not in default?
22:37 mauvebic just let food rot on cobble :p
22:37 VanessaE no
22:37 LAD you could a;so code it your self
22:38 VanessaE gloopblocks will turn cobble to mossy cobble in the presence of water though
22:38 mauvebic didnt 0.3 do that too?
22:38 jordan4ibanez if grass is next to cobble, cobble should turn into mossy cobble, and if mossy cobble is next to cobble, cobble should turn into mossy cobble
22:38 LAD ... ohhh we can see where people are looking now :)
22:39 LAD massoy is made by cobble in water
22:39 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: which would cause most cobble to become mossy over time.
22:39 rarkenin That's a good idea. Also tweak grass growth a little.
22:39 VanessaE you don't want viral spreading like that.
22:39 rarkenin It can be a very slooooow spread.
22:39 jordan4ibanez Exactly, which happens in real life! I'm talking about tall grass not normal grass blocks
22:40 mauvebic ideally, you should always have more growth around bodies of water
22:40 jordan4ibanez brb
22:40 NakedFury I would say more like high grass(not the node)+water+cobble+time(chance)= mossy cobble
22:40 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: with your idea, one single tall grass could turn a 1000x1000 cobble into mossy cobble.  that's overkill.
22:40 mauvebic and deserts should expand slowly
22:40 LAD ... intresting update
22:40 NakedFury then add mossy cobble to that equation and even more chance and it spreads to other cobble
22:40 VanessaE and no, that's not what happens in real life if the cobble is being used regularly.
22:41 LAD hey the changelog did't mechin the 3d clouds im charging a fine for inacorite data :P
22:41 LAD menchin*
22:41 VanessaE LAD: then I fine you $30 USD for three errors in that sentence.
22:41 mauvebic *inaccurate
22:41 rarkenin And I'm charging a fine for misspelling "inaccurate"
22:41 VanessaE mention, inaccurate, I'm
22:41 LAD lol :P
22:41 mauvebic :P
22:41 NakedFury did't is wrong too. did not or didn't
22:42 mauvebic i try not to correct spelling unless im like "wtf" lol
22:42 LAD erhim im the king of LAD world so DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM
22:42 VanessaE come on.  menchin?  inacorite?  you did not learn that in school.
22:42 LAD ummmm
22:42 LAD nope :P
22:42 LAD i spell how it spels
22:42 LAD hmmm DERP
22:42 LAD i spell how it sounds
22:42 VanessaE well don't.  and there's another $10.
22:43 VanessaE :)
22:43 mauvebic if anything, the english language has changed over the centuries to reflect how words really sound anyhow
22:43 LAD $5000000000 for being an airigent bum :P
22:43 mauvebic give it another hundred years and ittl be right
22:43 VanessaE airigent?
22:43 VanessaE oh ffs.
22:43 LAD :P
22:43 VanessaE LAD spelling stuff like that makes you look like a moron.
22:43 mauvebic id hate to see how he spells "heinous"
22:43 VanessaE come on, make an effort.
22:45 LAD BONES MOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
22:45 rarkenin Or floccinaucinihilipilification. I hope I don't have to watch him spell "floksynohseenienilipilificayshun"
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22:45 LAD ... maucebin i dont even know what that is  :P
22:46 mauvebic hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia, the fear of long words
22:46 LAD i can always just configer it
22:46 LAD nope im good
22:48 VanessaE mauvebic: don't you cuss on this here channel :D
22:48 mauvebic what the heinous or the hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia?
22:48 mauvebic :P
22:49 VanessaE the latter. :)
22:49 mauvebic lol
22:49 * VanessaE scrolls back and draws some squiggly red lines under most of LAD's words. :)
22:49 mauvebic he's gone :p
22:49 VanessaE I know :)
22:49 mauvebic grammar overload
22:50 STVAGOM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....................................
22:50 * mauvebic checks #pidgeonenglish
22:50 VanessaE I don't care as much for grammar as I do for spelling.  I mean, shit, we have irc clients with built-in spellcheckers.
22:50 mauvebic does xchat?
22:50 VanessaE yep
22:50 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/#p6yjLEfh
22:50 mauvebic i must not be paying attention lol
22:50 mauvebic or rarely screw up :/
22:50 mauvebic or need glasses
22:51 VanessaE heh
22:51 STVAGOM next time LAD comes on can someone ask him what time zone he is in
22:51 VanessaE well perhaps your copy isn't configured to do that; I don't know what all has to be in place for it to work (it just does on my box)
22:51 mauvebic cccp him next time
22:52 mauvebic well if its like the IM clients, i prolly need a library that isn't default on arch
22:52 mauvebic you know arch forums bans users of archbang? and yall thought politics here was bad lol
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22:57 rarkenin Has anyone noticed the absurdity in cubic meter nodes yet? A single node weighs on the order of tones, yet we are picking it up with a pickaxe, or even by hand within seconds.
22:57 mauvebic if it were up to me, the nodes would 1/4 the size
22:58 mauvebic a serious way to differentiate from MC, and add detail
22:58 mauvebic but then all nodeboxes would be borked :/
22:58 mauvebic 1/4 default nodes with grouping would help
22:59 rarkenin Yes. I'm tired of breaking my wrists with this 3-ton slab of glass.
22:59 mauvebic tho its a bit late in the game to make that kind of fundamental change
23:00 rarkenin True.
23:00 mauvebic you can do 1/4 nodes with nodeboxes, but it involves a fair bit of trickery to group them together in halves and 3/4's
23:01 jordan4ibanez VanessaE yes, that's how moss spreads
23:02 jordan4ibanez there could be a toll (scraper) to remove moss from mossy cobble stone
23:03 mauvebic lol cactusses do line up on flat maps - it looks liek theyre holding up the titanic lol
23:09 mauvebic http://ompldr.org/vaHpxMQ/mapnew.png
23:16 rarkenin It is "cacti".
23:21 mauvebic meh, we dont have any in canada :p
23:21 VanessaE bbl
23:24 mauvebic is there a mod that uses particle spawners for smoke? would look cool on me boat
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23:33 EduardeCalibal I thinking...  Is possible make some fog in the current state of the game engine?
23:33 EduardeCalibal :-D
23:34 jordan4ibanez vanessaE left to research cobblestone for a month so she could continue the arguement
23:34 Exio EduardeCalibal: particlespawner!
23:34 mauvebic F3
23:34 jordan4ibanez You need a smoke machine
23:34 EduardeCalibal Smoke machine, yes. :D
23:34 jordan4ibanez use jeija's mesecons
23:34 jordan4ibanez profit
23:34 NakedFury heavy smoke effects from fires
23:35 EduardeCalibal Well, the wheater mod is making some flutuations in my frame rate...  :-/
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23:35 EduardeCalibal I have 5~8 less fps when have rain...
23:36 kaeza ald also causes lag :(
23:36 kaeza and*
23:36 EduardeCalibal Yes...  Is it.
23:36 EduardeCalibal I purge this from my server for now.
23:36 EduardeCalibal :-/
23:37 EduardeCalibal Someone have problems for catch back glass made by the circular saw?
23:37 EduardeCalibal Here I lost all...
23:37 EduardeCalibal :-/
23:37 jordan4ibanez merge the weather mod with some modifications and it will be good
23:37 jordan4ibanez weather client*
23:37 EduardeCalibal I like the snow mod.
23:37 EduardeCalibal :)
23:37 kaeza you migh like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkQA8q5-UJY
23:37 kaeza +t
23:38 EduardeCalibal Ok, I repaired the timbe mod here (my own version).
23:38 EduardeCalibal I will see it.  :D
23:39 EduardeCalibal FPS 20, same here with the rain.
23:39 jordan4ibanez I like this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/587/files
23:40 jordan4ibanez how do you do that kaeza
23:40 kaeza what?
23:40 kaeza sandstorm?
23:40 jordan4ibanez how do you spawn particles around the player smoothly
23:40 EduardeCalibal Nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=a9nh1KvBU-s
23:40 kaeza ParticleSpawner s
23:41 kaeza EduardeCalibal, :D
23:41 EduardeCalibal I need play minetest in this computer inside the minetest. :D
23:41 jordan4ibanez I wonder if on_step rain could get if it is snowing and create a particle spawner accordingly
23:42 jordan4ibanez air not rain*
23:42 kaeza jordan4ibanez, Jeija's weather mod supports rain and snow
23:42 Menche all air blocks? wouldn't that lag?
23:42 jordan4ibanez I know that, but it is bugg
23:42 kaeza I posted the snowstorm but nobogy gave a shit
23:43 kaeza -g+d
23:43 EduardeCalibal Snowstorm make many snow in the map?
23:43 jordan4ibanez weather should really be a client side thing
23:43 kaeza err...sandstorm*
23:44 EduardeCalibal sandstorm make many sand in the map?
23:44 EduardeCalibal Or is only a effect in the screen?
23:44 kaeza it's just visual effect for now
23:45 kaeza I planned to use biome helpers in plants_lib to add it only on deserts but meh
23:45 EduardeCalibal I am workin in one idea for small water, dirty of other things lost in the ground after "events".
23:45 EduardeCalibal :D
23:46 EduardeCalibal Very small...  Like a line.
23:46 kaeza umm... I don't understand...
23:46 kaeza can you spell that in portuguese?
23:47 EduardeCalibal Like a spit in the ground.
23:47 EduardeCalibal Como um cuspe no chão...
23:47 EduardeCalibal :D
23:47 kaeza ah! :D
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23:48 EduardeCalibal AFK
23:48 jordan4ibanez just do /away
23:48 EduardeCalibal If I use away I remember of this use in one or two weeks...
23:48 EduardeCalibal :-o
23:49 EduardeCalibal :-P
23:49 EduardeCalibal Now I dont know how come back... -.-
23:49 mrdragons aw, the site's back. :(
23:50 EduardeCalibal Back?
23:50 EduardeCalibal AFK...
23:50 NotReallyNick Yeah, it was back about an hour ago.
23:50 Menche /away and /back
23:50 NotReallyNick I guess we can't have Communistcraft after all ....
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23:51 Menche dug nodes and craft results go to a central chest rather than your own inventory?
23:51 Menche and everyone gets some of it
23:51 Menche the admin gets most
23:51 NotReallyNick Yes.
23:52 * NotReallyNick begins writing a Communistcraft game for Minetest
23:52 jordan4ibanez I'll make the weapons
23:52 Menche bad players get teleported to a gulag
23:52 NotReallyNick The weapons are from default.
23:53 jordan4ibanez Have you seen my latest weapon?
23:53 NotReallyNick The sheep gun?
23:53 jordan4ibanez The real gun
23:53 NotReallyNick No.
23:54 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/afr_hkycJ-Q that's the beta of it, I have to rework the mesh
23:56 jordan4ibanez And I have another tool that will be very useful for mining
23:57 Kacey NotReallyNick, i know who you are
23:57 NotReallyNick Everyone here knows who I am.
23:57 Kacey lol ok 0gb
23:57 NotReallyNick I'm not really Nick, I'm 0gb.us.
23:58 NotReallyNick VanessaE outed me when I first donned this new name.
23:58 mauvebic coming along nicely: http://ompldr.org/vaHpxaw/screenshot_3615112384.png
23:58 YoungDerp my newest nick is a play on OldCoder's
23:58 OldCoder Hi!
23:58 YoungDerp hi
23:58 OldCoder What is a Derp anyway?
23:59 YoungDerp a derp is a derp
23:59 OldCoder All right
23:59 OldCoder That seems sensible
23:59 YoungDerp Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.” In image macros, the subject is typically portrayed with eyes that are pointed to each side and a caption that reads “DERP.” The words “herp” and “derp” are often used in rage comics to replace nondescript names or parts of conversation.
23:59 OldCoder Hmm
23:59 NotReallyNick YoungDerp: A definition cannot include the word being defined.
23:59 OldCoder You seem sharper than that

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