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VanessaE |
a few more m's this time eh? |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
perhaps an actual name might be in order :) |
| 00:18 |
khonkhortisan |
tapping a button that is stuck on doesn't make it unpress |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
tap it harder, like with an admin pick. that'll learn it ;) |
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* VanessaE |
pokes NekoGloop |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
Heh |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
random highlight is random |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
Someone else wanted the ipad |
| 00:44 |
NekoGloop |
I got it back :3 |
| 00:44 |
CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2844 /branches/stable-0.4/src/inventory.cpp: Remove "Unknown inventory identifier" deserialization errors, because they can break forward compatibility |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2845 /branches/stable-0.4/ (src/clientserver.h CMakeLists.txt): Version 0.4.3-rc0; increase PROTOCOL_VERSION due to backwards-incompatible InventoryList width field |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2846 /branches/stable-0.4/src/guiKeyChangeMenu.cpp: Add aux1_descends to key change menu |
| 00:44 |
CIA-59 |
minetest: matthew.i * r2847 /branches/stable-0.4/src/ (guiMainMenu.cpp guiMainMenu.h subgame.h util/string.h): |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: Enforce stricter world names using a blacklist |
| 00:44 |
CIA-59 |
minetest: Blacklisted characters are: / \ |
| 00:44 |
CIA-59 |
minetest: matthew.i * r2848 /branches/stable-0.4/src/guiMainMenu.cpp: Prevent world creation if the world already exists |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2849 /branches/stable-0.4/CMakeLists.txt: Version 0.4.3 |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2850 /branches/meta_set_nodedef: Version 0.4.3 |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2851 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Add meta:set_nodedef() and supporting code |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2852 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/games/minimal/mods/experimental/init.lua: Print out __nodedef data |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2853 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Store special node definitions in MapBlock and get them via Map |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2854 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/src/ (test.cpp util/pointer.h): Fix and test SharedPtr and HybridPtr |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2855 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/src/ (6 files): Add ContentFeatures based methods to MapNode |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2856 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/ (src/scriptapi.cpp doc/lua_api.txt): EnvRef:get_nodedef() |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2857 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/src/ (map.h util/pointer.h map.cpp): Some node lighting and add/remove code |
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* VanessaE |
clobbers CIA-59 with an evil sword |
| 00:44 |
NekoGloop |
Holy shit |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
LOL EVIL SWORD |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
HELL YEAWH |
| 00:45 |
CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2861 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/doc/lua_api.txt: Update lua_api.txt |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2862 /branches/meta_set_nodedef/games/minimal/mods/experimental/init.lua: Something |
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CIA-59 |
minetest: perttu.ahola * r2863 /tags/0.4.3: Version 0.4.3 |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
Oh and i am seeking better textures for my evil stuff, they arent evil enough. |
| 00:46 |
M13Coder |
crap hes here too |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
isn't is kinda customary to spew those commit messages at the time they're actually made? :) |
| 00:48 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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M13Coder |
crap CIA-59 is herr o___o |
| 00:51 |
M13Coder |
here* |
| 00:51 |
NekoGloop |
Its a version control bot |
| 00:52 |
M13Coder |
what? |
| 00:52 |
NekoGloop |
... |
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Basstard` |
Done yet? |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
with? |
| 01:08 |
M13Coder |
what |
| 01:10 |
Basstard` |
Minetest |
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NekoGloop |
Meow. |
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M13Coder |
wolf |
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M13Coder |
bark bark |
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M13Coder |
cat=food |
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* NekoGloop |
smirks |
| 01:20 |
NekoGloop |
No dog has a mouth large enough to eat me |
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OldCoder |
<NekoGloop> No dog has a mouth large enough to eat me |
| 01:22 |
NekoGloop |
What? |
| 01:22 |
OldCoder |
Wander into the middle of a conversation |
| 01:22 |
OldCoder |
And wonder what you missed :-) |
| 01:22 |
* OldCoder |
scrolls up |
| 01:22 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 01:22 |
OldCoder |
It's just an interesting line out of context |
| 01:22 |
* OldCoder |
laughs |
| 01:22 |
OldCoder |
I see |
| 01:22 |
M13Coder |
:) |
| 01:26 |
Basstard` |
This was the first thing I saw when I checked back in a channel, had no idea what they were talking about: "10 cm is MORE than enough for me to faint on the spot." |
| 01:27 |
NekoGloop |
Knowing you, you did know. Or at least thought you did. |
| 01:30 |
Basstard` |
I found out that they were talking about spiders, in ##hardware. |
| 01:30 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 01:34 |
NakedFury |
I would not faint but even the tiny tiny spiders may cause me to scream and exit the room. Im a man but still spiders just scare me |
| 01:35 |
MuadTralk |
spiders are creepy icky little things |
| 01:35 |
MuadTralk |
I freak out at them |
| 01:35 |
NekoGloop |
Well you arent alone xD |
| 01:47 |
NakedFury |
also to small lizards, snakes, almost any disgusting insect(cockroaches I kill but they freak me out), but spiders are at the top of the list |
| 01:52 |
Basstard` |
Spider cockroach. |
| 01:52 |
NekoGloop |
There probably is some hybrid |
| 01:54 |
M13Coder |
bye see ya guys later |
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| 02:26 |
cy1 |
acklp my world is not go |
| 02:26 |
cy1 |
oh, the derp port |
| 02:26 |
cy1 |
yesh, is working fine |
| 02:29 |
cy1 |
anyone want a world where stack size is 999? |
| 02:30 |
NekoGloop |
I want a world where max stack size is 65535 |
| 02:31 |
NekoGloop |
Like in junk jack |
| 02:31 |
cy1 |
yeah, but that would be good if clients could display stack in hex |
| 02:31 |
cy1 |
ffff |
| 02:31 |
cy1 |
it looks kind of ugly in decimal though. |
| 02:32 |
cy1 |
how about a world without backporting, or re-digging? |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
It would be FFFF which many people would add a few U's to :D |
| 02:32 |
cy1 |
ehehe |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
World without backporting and redigging! |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
Where do i sign up?! |
| 02:32 |
cy1 |
verge.info.tm 6989 |
| 02:33 |
cy1 |
stopping the redigging is as simple as "disable_anticheat = true" in minetest.conf |
| 02:33 |
cy1 |
makes the server do a _lot_ less processing too. |
| 02:33 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 02:34 |
NekoGloop |
I wonder if singleplayer would do that as welll... |
| 02:34 |
cy1 |
the anti-speedhax are hardcoded in though, so it takes an #if 0 in the code |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
What? |
| 02:35 |
NekoGloop |
disable_anticheat fail xD |
| 02:35 |
cy1 |
you can't just edit minetest.conf you have to recompile. |
| 02:36 |
NekoGloop |
I never compiled ^^" |
| 02:36 |
cy1 |
anticheat is what replays every dig and place interaction every player makes on the server... so you get to watch yourself digging slowly :p |
| 02:36 |
cy1 |
antispeedhax is what backports you when you're running around. |
| 02:39 |
cy1 |
I plan to replace both eventually with a database to track player statistics in an easy to summarize way, so admins can tell who's griefing without having to skim that debug.txt, and not bother trying to force people not to cheat. |
| 02:39 |
cy1 |
Taking them out is easier than putting that database in though. xD |
| 02:40 |
cy1 |
Any server getting griefed can just turn off interact, and rollback to a backup (mine is backed up hourly), ban the griefer etc. |
| 02:40 |
NekoGloop |
Yup |
| 02:40 |
cy1 |
any server that doesn't is Doing It Wrong IMO |
| 02:42 |
NekoGloop |
My server doesnt! (my, singleplayer, server, that is. |
| 02:42 |
cy1 |
Come to my server! We have bananas! |
| 02:42 |
NekoGloop |
)* |
| 02:44 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 02:48 |
cy1 |
Seriously someone besides me and khonkhortisan would be nice. 3 people could start a city even maybe. |
| 02:48 |
NekoGloop |
I want to but i'm not at my computer ^^" |
| 02:48 |
cy1 |
well, just keep it in mind then! |
| 02:48 |
cy1 |
and if you see a good city spot on my server, lemme know |
| 02:48 |
NekoGloop |
Btw: khonkhortisan: had you given any thought to what i said last night? |
| 02:49 |
NekoGloop |
cy1: I'll just stick a sign there saying BUILD HERE!!! |
| 02:56 |
cy1 |
yeah IRC's a wee bit more reliable I'd say |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 02:57 |
NekoGloop |
Ruin my fun, why dontcha? |
| 02:57 |
cy1 |
"Oh you left a sign. Too bad I delete logs daily." |
| 02:57 |
cy1 |
"I'm sure it's somewhere between -31000 and 31000! |
| 02:57 |
cy1 |
" |
| 02:58 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
No, i placed it at -31001,-31001,-31001 just to piss you off. :D |
| 02:59 |
NekoGloop |
Besides i can just log out next to the sign then when i log in again i'll be right there. |
| 03:02 |
NekoGloop |
Aaaugh, i'm bored! |
| 03:02 |
cy1 |
oh no! |
| 03:03 |
NekoGloop |
</tobuscusanimation> |
| 03:04 |
NekoGloop |
You win internets if you get the reference |
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cy1 |
Huh, Tobuscus is the Halo Reach guy. |
| 03:44 |
NekoGloop |
No he's the diamond sword dude |
| 03:46 |
cy1 |
Well I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfwXi5LgNms |
| 03:46 |
cy1 |
and it's... totally in the same style |
| 03:46 |
NekoGloop |
I was quoting the beginning of that very thing xD |
| 03:47 |
cy1 |
as http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/549991 |
| 03:48 |
NekoGloop |
You do not appear to have adobe flash installed |
| 03:48 |
NekoGloop |
No shit i'm on an ipad |
| 03:49 |
cy1 |
eh, it's on youtube but they make you sign in because it's too scary |
| 03:49 |
NekoGloop |
Youtube app bypasses that |
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NekoGloop |
... This is unproductive |
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celeron55 |
wtf was that bot doing? |
| 05:20 |
celeron55 |
i've not done a single commit in _days |
| 05:20 |
celeron55 |
_ |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: not the first time it's done that either |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
also, good morning. |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
| 06:11 |
cy1 |
humm... how do you get the nearest nodes to a player on a regular basis... |
| 06:17 |
RealBadAngel |
morning all |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
cy1 specific nodes? |
| 06:22 |
RealBadAngel |
pointed? or what? |
| 06:22 |
cy1 |
in the area |
| 06:22 |
cy1 |
I guess however ABMs do it... |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
there was such function i think, lemme search |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
- find_node_near(pos, radius, nodenames) -> pos or nil |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
^ nodenames: eg. {"ignore", "group:tree"} or "default:dirt" |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
- find_nodes_in_area(minp, maxp, nodenames) -> list of positions |
| 06:23 |
RealBadAngel |
^ nodenames: eg. {"ignore", "group:tree"} or "default:dirt" |
| 06:24 |
cy1 |
hm... might work |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
gosh its still raining outside |
| 06:25 |
RealBadAngel |
2nd day |
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| 07:17 |
* VanessaE |
is back |
| 07:17 |
RealBadAngel |
hi VanessaE |
| 07:17 |
VanessaE |
hey hey |
| 07:18 |
RealBadAngel |
ive added mesecons to dependencies right now |
| 07:19 |
VanessaE |
How to Induce Insomnia - Lesson 1: Don't drink enough fluid, so you feel dehydrated. 2: Try to do something useful with the time derived from (1) - Bathe your cats. |
| 07:19 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
here you could feel overhydrated today |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
its still raining |
| 07:20 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 07:21 |
RealBadAngel |
but at least i slept well |
| 07:21 |
VanessaE |
good :) |
| 07:23 |
RealBadAngel |
have to go shoppnin to make some breakfast but when i look outside.... |
| 07:23 |
VanessaE |
fuck it :D |
| 07:23 |
RealBadAngel |
damn rain |
| 07:23 |
VanessaE |
why go out on such a miserable day - just stay home, suck down some ramen noodles and bury yourself in code or something :) |
| 07:24 |
RealBadAngel |
i gonna code all day today |
| 07:24 |
RealBadAngel |
but even coders need breakfasts lol |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE |
I just had mine, sorta |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE |
peanut butter and jam |
| 07:25 |
RealBadAngel |
tell me more, faster i will become more hungry ;) |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
that's all there is to tell |
| 07:29 |
RealBadAngel |
oke, im goin out |
| 07:29 |
RealBadAngel |
ill be back |
| 07:41 |
RealBadAngel |
so, im back |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
that was quick |
| 07:44 |
RealBadAngel |
shop is not so far from here |
| 07:44 |
RealBadAngel |
like a minute on bike |
| 07:45 |
RealBadAngel |
grabed some tomatoes from garden and makin sandwiches now |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
yum |
| 07:47 |
RealBadAngel |
own vegetables are best |
| 07:48 |
RealBadAngel |
always fresh and without any chemicals |
| 07:50 |
RealBadAngel |
ive added node breaker to the main tree |
| 07:50 |
RealBadAngel |
so you can play with it if you want |
| 07:50 |
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| 07:50 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 07:51 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Calinou |
| 07:51 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 07:52 |
VanessaE |
hi cal |
| 07:52 |
RealBadAngel |
ive got a question for ya |
| 07:52 |
RealBadAngel |
ive made at least alloy furnace, so bronze is now smelted |
| 07:53 |
RealBadAngel |
out of copper and tin |
| 07:53 |
RealBadAngel |
but have still there that craft recipe |
| 07:53 |
RealBadAngel |
got any idea how to solve it? |
| 07:55 |
* Calinou |
is trying out arch in virtualbox |
| 07:55 |
RealBadAngel |
dont try to hide ;) |
| 07:56 |
Calinou |
arch wiki security question: "date -u +%W`uname`|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g" |
| 07:56 |
Calinou |
derp |
| 07:57 |
* Calinou |
has 2 VMs booted at once |
| 07:57 |
Calinou |
uses more RAM than minecraft |
| 07:57 |
RealBadAngel |
heheh |
| 07:58 |
Calinou |
wtf? I just get ">" when doing that command |
| 07:58 |
RealBadAngel |
so? |
| 07:58 |
Calinou |
I'll hop in their channel and ask :P |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
unmatched quotes |
| 07:59 |
RealBadAngel |
and they will ban you propably for bein lame |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
put another ' before the final " |
| 07:59 |
RealBadAngel |
they always do so :) |
| 07:59 |
Calinou |
got it |
| 08:00 |
Calinou |
works :3 |
| 08:00 |
RealBadAngel |
so, can you now answer my question? :) |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
what question? |
| 08:07 |
RealBadAngel |
theres bronze crafting recipe in moreores |
| 08:08 |
RealBadAngel |
and ive made smelting recipe to get the bronze (imho a bit more sensible) |
| 08:08 |
Calinou |
you need 3 copper and 1 tin now to get bronze |
| 08:08 |
Calinou |
shapeless recipe |
| 08:08 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 08:08 |
Calinou |
brb: making this recipe give 2 bronze instead of one |
| 08:08 |
Calinou |
more logical :p |
| 08:08 |
RealBadAngel |
but moreores just craft it |
| 08:09 |
Calinou |
erm, it gives 3 ingots already |
| 08:09 |
Calinou |
nevermind |
| 08:09 |
RealBadAngel |
and i smelt it to get bronze |
| 08:09 |
Calinou |
and it needs 2 copper/1 tin |
| 08:09 |
cy1 |
why more copper? |
| 08:10 |
RealBadAngel |
3:1 is good ratio, dont change it |
| 08:10 |
cy1 |
"good" |
| 08:10 |
cy1 |
who uses bronze anyway? :p |
| 08:10 |
RealBadAngel |
i do |
| 08:11 |
cy1 |
orange blocks |
| 08:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i think my mod is "best customer" for moreores |
| 08:11 |
cy1 |
oh, huh |
| 08:11 |
cy1 |
what mod? |
| 08:11 |
RealBadAngel |
technic |
| 08:12 |
cy1 |
technic needs copper cable though, not bronze |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
it is 2/1 right now |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
and gives 3 bronze |
| 08:12 |
Calinou |
logical, you lose nothing |
| 08:12 |
RealBadAngel |
look again |
| 08:12 |
cy1 |
except ur soul |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
im using all of it, more or less |
| 08:13 |
cy1 |
what good is bronze? |
| 08:13 |
cy1 |
it's softer than iron |
| 08:13 |
cy1 |
less conductive than copper |
| 08:13 |
RealBadAngel |
pipes |
| 08:13 |
cy1 |
it's terrible all the way around |
| 08:13 |
Basstard` |
cy1: You just gave two good reasons. |
| 08:14 |
cy1 |
besides using it to make a tuba why would you |
| 08:14 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, youre avoiding my question? |
| 08:14 |
Calinou |
what question? |
| 08:15 |
RealBadAngel |
my mod has alloy furnace |
| 08:15 |
RealBadAngel |
to produce alloys, including bronze. which IS an alloy |
| 08:15 |
cy1 |
high carbon steel ftw :x |
| 08:16 |
RealBadAngel |
your mod has crafting recipe to make an alloy |
| 08:16 |
RealBadAngel |
im askin how to solve that situation |
| 08:17 |
cy1 |
how would you make steel from iron without a smelter? - * - imagination - * - |
| 08:17 |
guest33454583 |
just override the recipe with one that gives nothing. i think in case of multiple recipes the last one is used |
| 08:17 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel, add something to that recipe, such as stick or cobble? :P |
| 08:18 |
RealBadAngel |
im makin stainless steel by cookin iron with some chromium in ratio 3:1 |
| 08:18 |
cy1 |
haha |
| 08:18 |
RealBadAngel |
guest33454583, i will try it |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
cy1: example smelting recipes used in my mod: |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
ALLOY SMELTING RECIPES: |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
3 copper dusts + 1 tin dust -> 4 bronze dusts |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
3 copper ingots + 1 tin tingot -> 4 bronze ingots |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
3 iron dusts + 1 chromium dust -> 4 stainless steel dust |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
2 sand + 2 coal dusts -> 1 silicon waffer |
| 08:20 |
RealBadAngel |
1 silicon wafer + 3 mithril dusts -> 1 doped silicon wafer |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
eek, mithril's too hard to find for such an expensive resipe |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
recipe |
| 08:21 |
RealBadAngel |
intended to be expensive |
| 08:22 |
RealBadAngel |
to make one solar panel you will need 12 mithril |
| 08:22 |
RealBadAngel |
grinded to 24 dusts |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you better increase the prevalence of mithril I guess :) |
| 08:23 |
Calinou |
shouldn't be too common |
| 08:24 |
Calinou |
it is more a "nice find" than an actual ore anyway |
| 08:24 |
RealBadAngel |
makin things easier to get is not improvin gameplay imho |
| 08:24 |
Calinou |
mithril tools being slower than mese |
| 08:24 |
Calinou |
(at least, pickaxes) |
| 08:24 |
Calinou |
but mithril sword is worth it :) |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
well folks, I think I'm ready to head back to bed :-) |
| 08:25 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, i think using mithril for chests and solar panels is way better use of it |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
yep |
| 08:26 |
RealBadAngel |
look at my recipes |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: suggestion: let the user place sideways/wall stairs back into the grid to rotate them back to normal stairs |
| 08:26 |
RealBadAngel |
all of your ores are used somwhere |
| 08:26 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, good idea :P |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: also, let the user put four smooth stone stairs into the grid in a 2x2 arrangement to get four stonesquare stairs. |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
er, four COBBL#E stairs. |
| 08:27 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
to get four stonesquare staris. |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
| 08:27 |
Calinou |
and four smooth stone = four stonebrick stairs |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
I'm too tired to type |
| 08:27 |
Calinou |
same for slabs too |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 08:27 |
Calinou |
however, I don't want to make moreblocks a dependancy |
| 08:27 |
Calinou |
no mod should depend on other mods than the default ones |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
you don't have to. |
| 08:28 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, you suggested me something right now? |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
just check for the presence of moreblocks' init.lua - if not found, don't define the additional recipes. |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
no |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, kay |
| 08:28 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou> no mod should depend on other mods than the default ones |
| 08:29 |
Calinou |
that's my philosophy |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
more blocks and more ores should be imported into minetest_game anyway |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
they're too useful not to be there. |
| 08:29 |
RealBadAngel |
following it i shall "consume" moreores |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
redcrab:30401 has the latest moreblocks release btw :-) |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
anyways, I'm off. |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
night :-) |
| 08:32 |
RealBadAngel |
is there a way to unregister crafting recipe? |
| 08:32 |
RealBadAngel |
night VanessaE |
| 08:37 |
RealBadAngel |
Calionou, heh, i can see you wont let me find a nice and easy solution |
| 08:39 |
Calinou |
won't change my recipe |
| 08:39 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 08:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i will find another way |
| 08:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i just thought as im the biggest customer for the moreores i can ask for somethin |
| 08:40 |
RealBadAngel |
while not, i will override it just |
| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
or i will just eat moreores |
| 08:41 |
RealBadAngel |
as you already suggested |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
but that would be just stupid |
| 08:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i wont do that |
| 08:44 |
RealBadAngel |
that rule you said is ok with very basic mods |
| 08:45 |
RealBadAngel |
adding something to the world |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
but then comes mods that actualy are using stuff youre added |
| 08:47 |
RealBadAngel |
moreores alone is just another dummy mod to produce just more picks because its possible to do so |
| 08:48 |
RealBadAngel |
all i ask for is cooperation |
| 08:48 |
RealBadAngel |
is that wrong? |
| 08:48 |
cy1 |
moreores produces awesome picks |
| 08:49 |
cy1 |
and not having modules depend on each other is paranoid and inefficient :< |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
Dependencies: |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
built-in mods: |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
default |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
dye |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
stairs |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
external mods: |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
moreores |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
flowers |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
pipeworks |
| 08:50 |
RealBadAngel |
and mesecons joined that list today |
| 08:50 |
cy1 |
like how VanessaE basically reinvented the nature mod, poorly |
| 08:50 |
cy1 |
I mean, no offense but |
| 08:51 |
cy1 |
if it's been done, doing it again is just askin for trouble! |
| 08:51 |
RealBadAngel |
i got your point |
| 08:51 |
cy1 |
RealBadAngel: I was mostly yelling at Calinou not you |
| 08:53 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah yeah. i was "yelling" at Calinou and all i got is he changed recipe for bronze |
| 08:53 |
cy1 |
deal w/it |
| 08:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i can, but i dont wont be rude |
| 08:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i do appreciate his work |
| 08:54 |
Calinou |
I didn't |
| 08:54 |
Calinou |
it is like this since forever |
| 08:54 |
RealBadAngel |
i know |
| 08:54 |
RealBadAngel |
but you made very BASIC mod |
| 08:54 |
RealBadAngel |
which now im using to build on |
| 08:55 |
RealBadAngel |
and in fact just ONE thing in it makes no sence |
| 08:57 |
Calinou |
don't want allows in my mods |
| 08:57 |
Calinou |
alloys* |
| 08:57 |
RealBadAngel |
so, what the heck is bronze then |
| 08:57 |
RealBadAngel |
milkshake? |
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RealBadAngel |
be consequent then |
| 10:36 |
* Basstard` |
chucks norris |
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Keegann |
hello |
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OldCoder |
Net Split! Save Yourselves! |
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OldCoder |
:-) |
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Calinou |
-christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, not only would it seem that Christmas came early this year, we must also have been much nicer than we thought! We're receiving a steady stream of packets at present and apologise for any inconvenience whilst we try work around the issue! Again, sorry and thank you for using freenode! |
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Calinou |
freenode staff needs to lrn2troll |
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Calinou |
just say "anony-mouses hate us, because we don't use xfce" |
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* Calinou |
updated his mods on sfan5's repo |
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Calinou |
:) |
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M13_ |
Hi |
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Calinou |
this guy voted for delete at afd request: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stuartyeates |
| 13:08 |
Calinou |
SMART |
| 13:08 |
Calinou |
ASS |
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Calinou |
DETECTED |
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M13_ |
Lolz |
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M13_ |
^^^ |
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M13_ |
hey Calinou |
| 13:09 |
Calinou |
hi |
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M13_ |
havent found a compiler for Windows yet :( |
| 13:09 |
M13_ |
it sucks |
| 13:09 |
M13_ |
how does celeron do it |
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M13_ |
he uses linux doesnt he |
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M13_ |
there |
| 13:11 |
M13_ |
he is |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
he compiles windows builds using MSVC (he has winXP in virtualbox) |
| 13:11 |
M13_ |
o ok |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
the stable ones only; he compiles nightly builds using minGW from linux |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
they're slower but he doesn't have to boot a VM to compile |
| 13:11 |
M13_ |
how do you do that |
| 13:11 |
Calinou |
google |
| 13:12 |
M13_ |
ok ill see |
| 13:12 |
M13_ |
can i do it with Minetest-M13 (Note : it was build on Minetest-c55 0.4-DEV20120122 |
| 13:13 |
Calinou |
why are you building such an old version? |
| 13:13 |
Calinou |
it lacks a shitton of features |
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M13_ |
Its got what i need to make it 10 x better |
| 13:16 |
M13_ |
and yes it is shit |
| 13:16 |
Calinou |
sound? stairs/slabs? day/night cycle? |
| 13:16 |
M13_ |
Generating sucks but i fixed that |
| 13:17 |
Calinou |
did you change 2 variables to fix it? :P |
| 13:17 |
M13_ |
Have stairs and slabs |
| 13:17 |
M13_ |
no |
| 13:17 |
M13_ |
many |
| 13:17 |
Calinou |
did you actually code something? 8) |
| 13:17 |
M13_ |
with help from oldcoder |
| 13:18 |
M13_ |
hes helping me learn c++ |
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OldCoder |
M13_, Hi |
| 13:18 |
M13_ |
how do i install mingw |
| 13:18 |
OldCoder |
M13_, Site has been updated |
| 13:18 |
M13_ |
no package for the newest version |
| 13:18 |
OldCoder |
M13_, I have a version that runs under Ubuntu |
| 13:18 |
OldCoder |
You can build it and cross-compile |
| 13:19 |
OldCoder |
M13_, clear cache and revisit site. Minor changes. I'll try to look at MinGW today or tomorrow. |
| 13:19 |
M13_ |
ok |
| 13:20 |
OldCoder |
M13_, mail or link me build instructions for MinGW approach |
| 13:20 |
OldCoder |
I'll try cross-building it myself |
| 13:20 |
M13_ |
o ur going to cross-compile? |
| 13:20 |
M13_ |
o ok |
| 13:20 |
OldCoder |
I will try |
| 13:20 |
OldCoder |
Mail or link the instructions |
| 13:21 |
M13_ |
is it works can you install it on my compile |
| 13:21 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 13:21 |
M13_ |
computer* |
| 13:21 |
OldCoder |
I will post instructions for everything |
| 13:21 |
M13_ |
ok |
| 13:21 |
OldCoder |
Everybody should know how to do it |
| 13:21 |
OldCoder |
But time is tight enough I can't dig up the getting started. Put what you know in a file and mail me or paste it somewhere |
| 13:22 |
OldCoder |
Need to run an errand now though the sun is not yet up |
| 13:22 |
OldCoder |
Back in a little while. The site will be updated further in the next few days. |
| 13:22 |
OldCoder |
BTW Fixed some of the CSS to make it work better with Chrome |
| 13:23 |
OldCoder |
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| 13:23 |
M13_ |
cool thnx |
| 13:24 |
OldCoder |
Oh, one more thing. M13_ I don't have time to run forums. mrtux suggests adding modern forums. I'll do that but look for somebody responsible to run them. May take a while. |
| 13:24 |
OldCoder |
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| 13:24 |
M13_ |
ok |
| 13:24 |
NakedFury |
hello |
| 13:24 |
M13_ |
whats wrong with my forums |
| 13:26 |
celeron55 |
http://minetest.net/packages/minetest-buildbot/minetest-buildbot-01.tar.gz |
| 13:26 |
celeron55 |
relevant |
| 13:26 |
OldCoder |
No offense intended. mrtux points out that self hosted is better. We can add forums directly to the site and customize. I've done this a lot in the past. You can even have a bames section. M13_ Study whatever C55 and the others can give you about Windows builds. Take responsibility and gather information politely. |
| 13:26 |
OldCoder |
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| 13:26 |
OldCoder |
g2g for now |
| 13:26 |
OldCoder |
*games section |
| 13:26 |
OldCoder |
Damn typos |
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OldCoder |
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celeron55 |
that up there is a mingw cross build script and some maybe-not-so-free-to-distribute hard-to-get files |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
thx; appreciated. Time is short. |
| 13:28 |
* OldCoder |
heads for the door |
| 13:28 |
M13_ |
ok thnx and what are the commands to cross-compile |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
^ celeron55 |
| 13:28 |
celeron55 |
M13_: rm -rf / |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
M13_, he has provided some info |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
But don't do |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
that last part :p |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
Thank him politely please |
| 13:28 |
celeron55 |
8D |
| 13:28 |
OldCoder |
Except for the rm -rf |
| 13:28 |
M13_ |
Thank you celeron |
| 13:29 |
M13_ |
bye bye |
| 13:29 |
celeron55 |
sfan5 uses uses mingw regularly for cross compiling too, i think |
| 13:29 |
celeron55 |
he has something roughly similar |
| 13:29 |
M13_ |
Celeron |
| 13:30 |
M13_ |
will this work with minetest 0.4_DEV_20120122 |
| 13:30 |
celeron55 |
dunno |
| 13:30 |
celeron55 |
and it'll require much tweaking for your uses |
| 13:31 |
M13_ |
ok |
| 13:31 |
M13_ |
can i use the buildwin32.sh to build it |
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Calinou |
celeron55, I bet if OldCoder didn't say that, he would do it :p |
| 13:35 |
M13_ |
aha working |
| 13:35 |
M13_ |
working... |
| 13:35 |
celeron55 |
http://youtu.be/rdIWKytq_q4 |
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NakedFury |
YouTube First Look: iPhone 5 [User: JimmyKimmelLive] [Views: 302] [244] [1] [Time: 00:01:41] |
| 13:36 |
M13_ |
i need packages |
| 13:36 |
M13_ |
irrlicht |
| 13:37 |
celeron55 |
uncomment the wget line in buildwin32.sh |
| 13:37 |
M13_ |
ok |
| 13:38 |
M13_ |
ALL |
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M13_ |
thnx |
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M13_ |
do i put my source in the folder and type in term ( ./buildwin32.sh <source name> )? |
| 13:44 |
celeron55 |
M13_: don't /msg me, i won't answer, ever |
| 13:44 |
celeron55 |
i have no idea how you haven |
| 13:44 |
celeron55 |
't figured out that already, but apparently in need to say it |
| 13:44 |
celeron55 |
-n |
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M13_ |
ok srry |
| 13:45 |
M13_ |
just wondering |
| 13:46 |
celeron55 |
M13_: it doesn't have any way to supply a source like that as-is, you need to modify the git clonings in there to copyings and so |
| 13:47 |
celeron55 |
or just manually do all that it does |
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M13_ |
i just copied my source into minetest.zip |
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celeron55 |
...that might work |
| 13:49 |
NekoGloop |
What, me logging in? ;) |
| 13:49 |
celeron55 |
it didn't work, try again |
| 13:49 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
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M13_ |
lolz it didnt |
| 13:50 |
NekoGloop |
I have no idea what is going on here |
| 13:50 |
M13_ |
im going to make it download my source from my site |
| 13:52 |
M13_ |
that worked :) |
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* NakedFury |
hola |
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NekoGloop |
Hole |
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NekoGloop |
xD fail |
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Calinou |
HOLO |
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Calinou |
he only lives once |
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NekoGloop |
XD |
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NekoGloop |
Hi realbadangel |
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RealBadAngel |
hi neko |
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NekoGloop |
I assume you still havent gotten it working? :P |
| 14:55 |
RealBadAngel |
what? |
| 14:55 |
NekoGloop |
Tubes |
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RealBadAngel |
im coding all the day |
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Calinou |
someone advertisted his MC server on IRC: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202756/ |
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Calinou |
24/8 |
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Calinou |
what's the name of the 8th day? |
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NekoGloop |
It's called derp |
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Calinou |
:} |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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iqualfragile1 |
Hallo PilzAdam |
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PilzAdam |
sup |
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NekoGloop |
Ceiling |
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NekoGloop |
I have an idea for a mesecons machine |
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NekoGloop |
Tripwires |
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PilzAdam |
a machine or a new node? |
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NekoGloop |
Well you place the tripwire on the ground... |
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PilzAdam |
so pressure plates? |
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NekoGloop |
Two special nodes would be at either end... |
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NekoGloop |
Those nodes would give of a mesecon signal |
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NekoGloop |
(instead of the tripwire itself |
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VanessaE |
IR laser transmitter/receiver nodes sound nice |
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VanessaE |
also, hi |
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PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
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NekoGloop |
Yeah, that would work as well |
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NekoGloop |
However the player is not allowed to see the tripwire |
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VanessaE |
HA! there's the man of the hour now |
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PilzAdam |
Hallo Jeija |
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NekoGloop |
xD |
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Jeija |
Hi everyone! "there's the man of the hour now" > wut? |
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NekoGloop |
You, we were talking about a mesecon idea i had |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:34] <NekoGloop> I have an idea for a mesecons machine |
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PilzAdam |
<NekoGloop> I have an idea for a mesecons machine |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:34] <NekoGloop> Tripwires |
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PilzAdam |
<NekoGloop> Tripwires |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:37] <PilzAdam> so pressure plates? |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:37] <NekoGloop> Two special nodes would be at either end... |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:37] <NekoGloop> Those nodes would give of a mesecon signal |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:37] <NekoGloop> (instead of the tripwire itself |
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VanessaE |
[09-13 11:37] <VanessaE> IR laser transmitter/receiver nodes sound nice |
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PilzAdam |
lol |
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NekoGloop |
Omg hl spam away |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
Ninja'd :) |
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PilzAdam |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Minetest#More_sources |
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Jeija |
So it's about a light barrier? |
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PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
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Jordach |
sup PilzAdam |
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VanessaE |
Jeija: an 'electric eye' as they used to call it |
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Jeija |
= light barrier, right? |
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Jordach |
celeron55, WHY THE FRIGG did you use a short signed variable for v3s16 |
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VanessaE |
like those door sensors in a convenience store that chime when you walk through the open door |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
yeah basically |
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PilzAdam |
Jeija, the current pressure plates are somehow slow, can you use a globalstep timer to check for players? |
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NekoGloop |
Jeija: You know those laser tripwires they use in movies and the like? |
| 15:43 |
Jeija |
We need one thing: on_collision for nodes and entities, that would be awesome |
| 15:43 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 15:44 |
NekoGloop |
Globalstep? |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
+1 |
| 15:44 |
Jeija |
(the grass steps must have been worked somehow ?!?) |
| 15:44 |
Jeija |
I mean the footsteps |
| 15:44 |
NekoGloop |
I had to remove item_drop because of globalstep |
| 15:44 |
NekoGloop |
Jeija: look at skyblock, it does it somehow |
| 15:45 |
* Jordach |
knows a lot of C++ |
| 15:45 |
* PilzAdam |
knows a lot of java |
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* NekoGloop |
wants a cup of java (not really) |
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\Jan |
http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1347549737771.jpg |
| 15:54 |
thexyz |
new iphone is crap |
| 15:54 |
thexyz |
like previous ones |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
+1 |
| 15:55 |
* PilzAdam |
doesnt like apple(s) |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
hi Calinou |
| 15:55 |
\Jan |
I'm waiting for the nano version: http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1347551227107.jpg |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Minetest/ |
| 15:55 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 15:58 |
NekoGloop |
English wikipedians are assholes |
| 15:58 |
\Jan |
Rude |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
[16:58:15] <NekoGloop> English wikipedians are assholes: either that or they do not know about open source |
| 15:59 |
PilzAdam |
the german wikipedians are better |
| 15:59 |
\Jan |
Or that the wikipedia page creation rules are sort of like "if only a few people know about it we don't really care" |
| 15:59 |
VanessaE |
so who can fix the article? |
| 15:59 |
* PilzAdam |
not |
| 15:59 |
PilzAdam |
im working on the german one |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
language wikipedians are often better |
| 16:00 |
\Jan |
Because there are about a dozen people a week trying to make a page about their local shop / grandfather / dog |
| 16:00 |
Calinou |
less GUFs |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
[17:00:00] <Calinou> language wikipedians are often better language specific? |
| 16:00 |
\Jan |
Someone gets 1,000 hits on their youtube video and now they think they're popular and need to have a wikipedia page about them |
| 16:00 |
\Jan |
â”('～`ï¼›)┌ |
| 16:01 |
Calinou |
yes, language specific |
| 16:01 |
\Jan |
So english wikipedia is quite strict about that |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
i almost have that...like i give to fucks about my views...it just shows that i do my videos well |
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| 16:02 |
\Jan |
I haven't done anything on wikipedia in forever; I wonder if I still have my permissions or whatever |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
you do; accounts are not removed for inactivity |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
and anyway you can edit without an account |
| 16:03 |
\Jan |
I thought permissions got removed for inactivity though |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
never |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
why would they do that |
| 16:03 |
\Jan |
â”('～`ï¼›)┌ |
| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
Admins lose admin if they are inactive |
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| 16:04 |
NekoGloop |
Maybe you're confusing that? |
| 16:09 |
* Jordach |
has to use MSVC++ |
| 16:09 |
Calinou |
read: not banning someone every day |
| 16:14 |
frogcrush |
Anyone know HTML/CSS? |
| 16:14 |
NekoGloop |
Nope |
| 16:15 |
celeron55 |
enough to have made minetest.net |
| 16:18 |
thexyz |
frogcrush: why do you ask this question in #minetest> |
| 16:19 |
frogcrush |
B/c everywhere else I asked I got laughed at ;) |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, Hi |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, What do you need? |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
i do |
| 16:20 |
frogcrush |
OldCoder: I am trying to make the center part of my page white against a dark-coloured background |
| 16:20 |
OldCoder |
BTW I trust you do not actually crush frogs. They are hoppy little friends. Paste your code to a paste site. |
| 16:21 |
rubenwardy |
use a div with a white style for center page |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
^ Yes |
| 16:21 |
frogcrush |
OldCoder: Never. I made the u/n when I was twelve for RuneScape :D |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
nested tables. :) |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
I was going to add the div |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE is also correct |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, show us your code |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
(for those of us whose HTML skills are still stuck in the late 90's :) ) |
| 16:21 |
rubenwardy |
<div style="background-color:#FFFFFF; --positioning code--"> |
| 16:21 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, have you visited this site: |
| 16:22 |
OldCoder |
http://giveupandusetables.com/ |
| 16:22 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 16:22 |
VanessaE |
CSS is useless for a lot of stuff people keep trying to shoehorn into it |
| 16:22 |
frogcrush |
http://pastebin.com/bK2pxny6 |
| 16:22 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 16:22 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
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| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
<table width="100%" bgcolor="#808080"><tr><td><table width="90%" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><tr><td> your content here </table></table> |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
simple. |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
<body bgcolor="#000000"> |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
(with proper indenting it makes perfect sense) |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, would you like to try the tables approach VanessaE has proposed? |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
Tables are fine IMHO |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
well yeah, <body> is better for the overall background color. |
| 16:24 |
frogcrush |
Just trying :) |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
Give Up. Use Tables. Do It. |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
so reduce the 100% to 98% or something. |
| 16:24 |
OldCoder |
Dooooooo eeeeeeeeeeet |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
tables are good... |
| 16:25 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
<3 |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
no |
| 16:25 |
frogcrush |
It just still won;'t fill the entire height of the browser window ;/ |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
tables are good only when you need tables |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
if you need to fill entire height google for "css sticky footer" |
| 16:26 |
frogcrush |
Oh, I tried that :D |
| 16:26 |
frogcrush |
This is why I stick to XAML *sigh* |
| 16:26 |
* NekoGloop |
flips a table in the general direction of oldcoder |
| 16:26 |
* OldCoder |
ducks |
| 16:26 |
OldCoder |
Quack |
| 16:27 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 16:27 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
<elbat> |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
"table" flipped |
| 16:27 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, Reviewing, then |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, the table approach should work but I will probably comment on divs in 15 to 30 minutes |
| 16:32 |
thexyz |
2012, people still use tables |
| 16:32 |
thexyz |
i mean, use them in the wrong way |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 16:32 |
frogcrush |
Perhaps its something else in the code? Here is the full files: http://pastebin.com/nQxue1hu |
| 16:33 |
frogcrush |
Who doesn't use tables? |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, I don't propose to debug your code; but I'll comment on the original question |
| 16:33 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, people do use tables. There is some debate about them. |
| 16:34 |
frogcrush |
Now I feel like that one guy who was bugging c55 about the old builds :D |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
tables are not good at all for designing websites |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
too much useless shit |
| 16:35 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, relax and pull up a lilypad |
| 16:35 |
khonkhortisan |
A flowing layout is better, but I haven't done one yet |
| 16:35 |
thexyz |
and i thought nobody uses it |
| 16:37 |
celeron55 |
i don't use tables, except a bit for when i am lazy |
| 16:37 |
celeron55 |
-for |
| 16:38 |
celeron55 |
they make me cry but if i have 5 minutes to change a complex layout, it's only going to happen with horrible tables |
| 16:38 |
OldCoder |
How do you do three column layouts simply without tables? |
| 16:38 |
khonkhortisan |
if you just go by the rule that tables are for tablular data you'll be fine |
| 16:38 |
celeron55 |
OldCoder: inline blocks |
| 16:38 |
khonkhortisan |
css |
| 16:38 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 16:39 |
celeron55 |
or floating elements, but inline blocks are the best way |
| 16:39 |
celeron55 |
or, well |
| 16:39 |
celeron55 |
depends on the details |
| 16:39 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, code coming shortly |
| 16:39 |
celeron55 |
there could be more ways too, but you didn't tell how you'd exactly want it to behave |
| 16:40 |
NekoGloop |
Meow. |
| 16:40 |
celeron55 |
also i am not an expert web designer |
| 16:40 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, what works works |
| 16:40 |
OldCoder |
What is an "expert" but a practicing theorist? |
| 16:40 |
OldCoder |
^ Obi Wan |
| 16:40 |
frogcrush |
Nice quote |
| 16:40 |
celeron55 |
well, more like experienced and professional |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 16:41 |
celeron55 |
i am inexperienced and amateur |
| 16:41 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Do a second site |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Then you will be experienced |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Sell it |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Then you will be professional |
| 16:41 |
celeron55 |
well, to me, being professional means it'll pay the bills |
| 16:41 |
celeron55 |
not just selling one thing |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Professional means being paid |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
Webdev can pay the bills |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
Easier if you live in India |
| 16:42 |
* OldCoder |
is distracted and asks forgiveness for this |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
They will promise an Instagram clone for $150 |
| 16:42 |
celeron55 |
it can, but until you've lived by web developing for a month, i don't call you a web dev professional |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
Fair enough |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
<--- Not a webdev professional |
| 16:42 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
<--- Webdev professional |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
Made enough for a month last month |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
Probably not this month though |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
Can't compete with the Indians |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
For Pete's Sake... I signed up one Indian friend at Elance |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
He is working for $2.00 per hour |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
And goes :D :D :D about that |
| 16:44 |
celeron55 |
well, prices of stuff vary a lot around the world |
| 16:44 |
OldCoder |
Oh, yes; especially rent |
| 16:44 |
celeron55 |
and food |
| 16:44 |
OldCoder |
Friends in Scotland say come and live here |
| 16:44 |
celeron55 |
and those tend to be the ones where people spend the most money |
| 16:44 |
OldCoder |
$1,000 per month is colossal |
| 16:44 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 16:45 |
cisoun |
Be an engineer. |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
As I have been |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
Since before everybody in this chat was born |
| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
It is all webdev now |
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| 16:45 |
OldCoder |
ReckonMan, wb |
| 16:45 |
cisoun |
Engineer in computer science ? |
| 16:45 |
ReckonMan |
ty :) |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
cisoun, Yes. Mathematics too. Double major. |
| 16:46 |
cisoun |
damn |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
It has been a long strange trip |
| 16:46 |
cisoun |
A good engineer earn 8000 - 12000$ / month here. |
| 16:47 |
OldCoder |
Where is "here" ? |
| 16:47 |
OldCoder |
<--- Is actually sort of good |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
oh god im coding C++ |
| 16:50 |
NekoGloop |
xD |
| 16:50 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Indeed |
| 16:50 |
OldCoder |
Jordach BTW is doing C++ puzzles from school and the code is fine |
| 16:56 |
cisoun |
OldCoder: sorry, Switzerland |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
cisoun, thx |
| 16:56 |
cisoun |
But that's normal, our money is very strong. |
| 16:56 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 16:56 |
cisoun |
That's why french worker come here. |
| 16:57 |
cisoun |
hehe |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, screenshot coming up |
| 16:58 |
OldCoder |
shortly |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
[17:57:02] <cisoun> That's why french worker come here. : was it Calinou? |
| 16:58 |
NekoGloop |
I thought french people came for the wine? |
| 16:58 |
frogcrush |
:D |
| 16:58 |
cisoun |
I don't think so. /o\ |
| 16:58 |
Jordach |
maybe the choc |
| 16:59 |
cisoun |
fondue |
| 16:59 |
Jordach |
>.> |
| 16:59 |
cisoun |
Wine's good here too actually. The good thing to do today is to buy wine from countries where the weather's very hot. Argentina, Australia, ... |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
ROBLOCHON |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
the typo of the damned |
| 17:00 |
cisoun |
hahaha |
| 17:06 |
* PilzAdam |
is back (you may ask yourself: "Was he away?"; the anser is "Yes") |
| 17:07 |
BartoCH_ |
cisoun, let me remind you that you were the last area to join Switzerland if i am not wrong ;-) |
| 17:07 |
OldCoder |
|
| 17:07 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush: http://oldcoder.org/test/baconcenter.jpg |
| 17:07 |
OldCoder |
Code for that will be posted in a couple of minutes |
| 17:07 |
* NekoGloop |
is back (Fasten your seatbelts, this is gonna be a bumpy ride!) |
| 17:07 |
OldCoder |
ls |
| 17:07 |
khonkhortisan |
NekoGloop, no I haven't |
| 17:07 |
OldCoder |
Oops |
| 17:08 |
cisoun |
BartoCH_: what do you mean "the last area" ? |
| 17:08 |
OldCoder |
This is not my xterm :-) |
| 17:08 |
BartoCH_ |
Jura, am i right? :-) |
| 17:08 |
cisoun |
WATCHU KNOW 'BOUT BACON |
| 17:08 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: ... Wut? |
| 17:08 |
cisoun |
#epicmealtime |
| 17:08 |
frogcrush |
BACON! |
| 17:08 |
khonkhortisan |
something you said yesterday |
| 17:08 |
BartoCH_ |
OldCoder, cd /bar && more beer |
| 17:08 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 17:09 |
cisoun |
A-DRIPPIN THAT SAAAUWCE |
| 17:09 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, see the screenshot linked above and the code is: |
| 17:09 |
OldCoder |
http://pastebin.com/bTrhuqMH |
| 17:09 |
OldCoder |
Done |
| 17:09 |
OldCoder |
|
| 17:10 |
frogcrush |
Thanks, trying |
| 17:10 |
cisoun |
The "style" tag must be included in the "head" tag. |
| 17:10 |
OldCoder |
cisoun, is correct |
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| 17:11 |
OldCoder |
BUG! |
| 17:11 |
OldCoder |
<--- ashamed |
| 17:12 |
OldCoder |
frogcrush, corrected code is at: http://pastebin.com/hm4FdF38 |
| 17:12 |
frogcrush |
OK, thanks :) |
| 17:14 |
cisoun |
BartoCH_: Neuchâtel (Le Locle precisely) |
| 17:15 |
* frogcrush |
wishes HTML was as easy as XAML |
| 17:15 |
* Jordach |
wishes c++ had a easy to use 12hr clock |
| 17:15 |
* PilzAdam |
wishes something, too |
| 17:16 |
* NekoGloop |
wishes nothing |
| 17:16 |
frogcrush |
It doesnt? |
| 17:16 |
NekoGloop |
Beat that. |
| 17:16 |
* frogcrush |
will stick with C# |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
bleh |
| 17:16 |
* PilzAdam |
wil stick with java |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
use something original..you know, c++ |
| 17:17 |
* frogcrush |
smacks PilzAdam |
| 17:17 |
PilzAdam |
use something protable,.. you know java |
| 17:17 |
PilzAdam |
*portable |
| 17:17 |
khonkhortisan |
robocode is in java |
| 17:17 |
frogcrush |
C# runs on Windows, Mac, Linux, UNIX |
| 17:18 |
frogcrush |
OldCoder: Thanks for the code. I really appreciate it |
| 17:18 |
OldCoder |
Hey |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 17:19 |
* OldCoder |
nows |
| 17:19 |
* OldCoder |
bows |
| 17:19 |
frogcrush |
Plus, C# runs web apps, and Silverlight, and on iPhone and Android, plus Windows Phone, and Xbox |
| 17:19 |
OldCoder |
Damn typos |
| 17:19 |
frogcrush |
Agreed. |
| 17:19 |
PilzAdam |
java has applets ;-) |
| 17:19 |
frogcrush |
With a bunch of security holes :D |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
thats makes it interesting |
| 17:20 |
frogcrush |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/261843/time_to_give_java_the_boot.html |
| 17:20 |
khonkhortisan |
um why aren't there any specifications? What if I wanted to write a compiler? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_Sharp_%28programming_language%29#Versions |
| 17:20 |
frogcrush |
lol yes, interesting |
| 17:20 |
frogcrush |
There are specs somewhere |
| 17:21 |
frogcrush |
.NET 4.5 is still in beta |
| 17:21 |
BartoCH_ |
cisoun, ha, j'étais pourtant proche ! :-P pardon pour la confusion |
| 17:21 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, see PM. I think your school is wrong. |
| 17:21 |
cisoun |
BartoCH_: ;) |
| 17:21 |
BartoCH_ |
cisoun, de ce côté, Vaud |
| 17:21 |
cisoun |
Salut voisin. o/ |
| 17:21 |
frogcrush |
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7029 |
| 17:21 |
BartoCH_ |
viens boir un verre ! |
| 17:21 |
BartoCH_ |
:P |
| 17:21 |
BartoCH_ |
boire* |
| 17:28 |
cisoun |
Je veux bien. 8 ) |
| 17:30 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I recalculate the light? |
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| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
magic. :) |
| 17:30 |
* VanessaE |
is back |
| 17:30 |
OldCoder |
wb |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
wb |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
hrm, did I stumble into #minetest-fr or something? :) |
| 17:31 |
OldCoder |
Well, we helped a frog crusher who did not actually crush frogs |
| 17:33 |
Basstard` |
Orange crush? |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Green Frogs Crush |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
Frog Juice one assumes |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
there's a place here that sells, I kid you not, "frog jam" |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
(in addition to "traffic jam" and "toe jam") |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
(and "bear jelly") |
| 17:36 |
Basstard` |
Does it taste like frog? |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
SAW: I wanna play a game... |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
Me: I cant |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
SAW: Why the hell not?! |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
Me: Ive got a mac... |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
(all of which, I'm pretty sure, are unrelated to the objects the names are derived from :-) ) |
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| 17:42 |
khonkhortisan |
my game won't quit until //dig returns |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
go to the terminal, ctrl-\ |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
(backslash) |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
that'll kill the server quickly |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
but not very gracefully |
| 17:49 |
khonkhortisan |
it forgets that it dug anything |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
I did say it wouldn't be graceful |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
worldedit needs progress displays of some kind |
| 18:00 |
sfan5 |
+1 |
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| 18:22 |
* VanessaE |
randomly highlights NekoGloop |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
;D |
| 18:22 |
NekoGloop |
Nooooo! |
| 18:22 |
* NekoGloop |
melts |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, been at this challenge for a while |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
http://pastie.org/4715318 |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
make a trip calc with returning time |
| 18:23 |
Jordach |
in a 12hr fashion |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
fun |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
yep |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
i also have some others too |
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Jordach |
filling buses |
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Jordach |
which returns how many was in the last bus |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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LAD |
reckon u on here?? |
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LAD |
hmmm |
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LAD |
he left |
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M13Coder |
hello |
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* Jordach |
needs sleep |
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M13Coder |
celeron55 you there? |
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ecube |
Must... turn.. on... timestamping... for... freenode... |
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M13Coder |
:0 |
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M13Coder |
QUEIT |
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M13Coder |
hey Orby |
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T_A_N_K |
has anyone written an economy mod for minetest? |
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M13Coder |
no |
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T_A_N_K |
good, did anyone update the mod api for minetest 0.41? |
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M13Coder |
idk |
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VanessaE |
0.4.1? |
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VanessaE |
that's old |
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VanessaE |
also ltns. |
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T_A_N_K |
0.4.1 is the stable no? |
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VanessaE |
0.4.3 |
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T_A_N_K |
give me a crash course, what's new? |
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VanessaE |
too much to list here :-) |
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VanessaE |
really, there's way too much |
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T_A_N_K |
no i mean for modding api |
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T_A_N_K |
i need to know how to get sign information |
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VanessaE |
Not sure what all has changed in the API, but there have been a few new things |
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MiJyn |
hi T_A_N_K |
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T_A_N_K |
hello mijy |
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T_A_N_K |
mijyn |
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MiJyn |
:D |
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T_A_N_K |
i'm going to go on a mod rampage |
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VanessaE |
there's lots of mods to look at :-) |
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* VanessaE |
mumbles something about checking out her collection :) |
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T_A_N_K |
i need help, how do you do a BASIC string in lua? |
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T_A_N_K |
there's all this fancy shmancy tutorials, all i want is str("foo" + 23232 + "foofoo") lol |
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VanessaE |
"foo".."bar".."baz" --> "foobarbaz" |
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VanessaE |
e.g. something = "foo".."bar".."baz" |
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T_A_N_K |
so just str("foo".."test".."test"? |
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VanessaE |
print(something) --> "foobarbaz" |
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T_A_N_K |
oh okay thank you |
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T_A_N_K |
are you able to change the font style/color in this game yet? |
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VanessaE |
not that I know of, short of a texture pack maybe |
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T_A_N_K |
now there's a get_player_name worker, is there a get_player_message? |
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T_A_N_K |
bonk! |
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VanessaE |
dunno |
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Basstard` |
I'd like a massage. |
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NekoGloop |
hello people |
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VanessaE |
hey neko |
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NekoGloop |
what'd I miss? :3 |
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VanessaE |
not much - TANK is back at least :-) |
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VanessaE |
aside from that, nothing |
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NekoGloop |
who dat? |
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T_A_N_K |
hello neko |
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NekoGloop |
hello person i dont know |
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T_A_N_K |
i am jordan4ibanez, or 313hummer on youtube |
| 22:37 |
NekoGloop |
aaaah, that awesomesauce person :D |
| 22:39 |
T_A_N_K |
yay, man there really needs to be a get_player_message thing called when someone says something |
| 22:40 |
NekoGloop |
you appear to have a lot of mods backed up your need to review, re: gloopores, gloopblocks, toolsizes, charcoal... you could just do all my mods in one vid :D |
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T_A_N_K |
maybe i will! |
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NekoGloop |
oh and gates, cactusmod, etc... |
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NekoGloop |
jsut look at the topics i made on the forums xD |
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NekoGloop |
just* |
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NekoGloop |
make sure to download my rendition of cactusmod, not pilzadams'; his is a bit weird... |
| 22:43 |
NekoGloop |
huh, only one of my mods is still in modding general xD |
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NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&user_id=2600 here ya go, t_a_n_k |
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NekoGloop |
dont forget to download minetest 0.4.3 as well |
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T_A_N_K |
i'd look neko but the site is overloaded, i saw some of your mods, their pretty dang cool |
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NekoGloop |
site is overloaded? |
| 22:47 |
T_A_N_K |
but i need your help, how do i get on_item_use? |
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T_A_N_K |
now it's not! |
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NekoGloop |
on_item_use? |
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NekoGloop |
in a itemdef, define on_use = function(...) ... |
| 22:48 |
NekoGloop |
assuming you mean lua. |
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T_A_N_K |
yes i do |
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bas080 |
Hey people of the planet earth |
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OldCoder |
Hey back |
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Basstard` |
Plan 9? |
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T_A_N_K |
lol |
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T_A_N_K |
how would i write from within minetest's directory? |
| 23:37 |
T_A_N_K |
like /home/user/ <-BAD ~/this/is/the/directory <-GOOD |
| 23:40 |
T_A_N_K |
yes many times |
| 23:40 |
T_A_N_K |
we made blockplanet |
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donaldr3 |
does anyone know how full_punch_interval works? changing it's value doesn't seem to have much of an effect |
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bas080 |
punch intervals work with groups i guess... The length of the node punching is defined in the default init.lua.... |
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bas080 |
i think! |
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NekoGloop |
Lol |
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bas080 |
Does that answer your question? |
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NekoGloop |
Hi bas |
