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IRC log for #minetest-mods, 2012-09-04

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08:02 jordach-tab joined #minetest-mods
08:02 jordach-tab sup.
08:03 jordach-tab left #minetest-mods
09:35 Jordach joined #minetest-mods
13:35 Jordach joined #minetest-mods
13:42 PilzAdam joined #minetest-mods
13:54 Jordach hello PilzAdam
13:54 PilzAdam sup
13:54 Jordach nothin
13:54 Jordach just maintained my server
13:55 Jordach (dustimg, it was like aliens in there)
13:55 PilzAdam so you arent a modder anymore but a server admin?
13:55 Jordach and im working on a wallpaper mod
13:55 Jordach i do both
13:55 PilzAdam cant be
13:55 Jordach i8 can be
13:55 Jordach glowstone:glowstone is not released
13:56 PilzAdam there are 3 different types of MT players: normal player/user (n00b), modders and server admin
13:56 PilzAdam you cant be two of them
13:56 Jordach when was this done
13:56 * Jordach cracks knuckles
13:58 Jordach PilzAdam; hello? redcrab fixes mods for his server
13:59 Jordach so is orby - made permablocks
13:59 Jordach (own server)
13:59 PilzAdam but hes more a server admin than a modder
13:59 Jordach but he made a mod
13:59 Jordach this is my point
14:02 Jordach VanessaE made part of a wallpaper mod, the ceiling paint in homedecor, however, im actually doing the whole hog, (its a term)
14:39 Jordach i should stop browsing imgur and get back to modding
14:44 VanessaE joined #minetest-mods
14:57 Jordach hello VanessaE
14:59 VanessaE hey]
15:00 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
15:00 VanessaE good morning all :-)
15:02 Jordach youre up late
15:02 VanessaE naw, I've been up since ~9am, just been out running an errand
15:02 Jordach oh cool and VanessaE - im working on a wallpaper and wall paints mod
15:03 VanessaE cool
15:03 Jordach (separate)
15:03 VanessaE something to complement homedecor I guess
15:04 Jordach since you only had ceiling paint
15:04 Jordach i though i'd expand on it
15:05 VanessaE good idea
15:05 VanessaE only prob of course is wallpaper near the floor/ceiling.  you'll have to have variants of wall paper/paint that can account for those
15:06 Jordach NODEBOXES
15:06 VanessaE yup :-)
15:06 Jordach and use something like the tree texture
15:07 Jordach top is what ever the floor is, side is for the wallpaper
15:07 Jordach tada
15:15 Jordach VanessaE - im a genius
15:15 Jordach does your mod still have the unifieddyes:red/blue/orange/<whatever> ?
15:23 Jordach PilzAdam; is there not a way to return a used item? (minetest.after_construct?)
15:24 Jordach say i have a paint roller
15:24 Jordach and use the paint, and i want it to be a un-used roller again
15:25 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1300
15:25 PilzAdam does this help?
15:25 Jordach im reading it right now
15:26 Jordach i have a node that needs a craft item
15:26 Jordach and when placing the node i want the node (not the stack) to be the craft item again
15:26 PilzAdam ?
15:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/qCEbz.png
15:29 PilzAdam what is the last word at the bottom?
15:29 Jordach note turns into craft item after build can turn back into node with glue and wallpaper
15:31 PilzAdam so you have a node in inv -> then place it somewher -> the node turns into craftitem
15:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ajYja.png
15:31 Jordach better
15:31 Jordach yes
15:31 * Jordach checks current node defs - screams in agony over so amny lines
15:32 PilzAdam in on_place_node you have to remove the node and add a the craftitem at the pos
15:32 Jordach aye.
15:34 Jordach i also want the node when dug to drop nothing
15:34 PilzAdam drop = ""
15:35 NakedFury joined #minetest-mods
15:35 VanessaE brb
15:35 Jordach i just re-thought my plan - it should drop old wallpaper
15:36 Jordach then has to be re-dyed
15:36 Jordach DUH!
15:36 PilzAdam drop = "modname:walpaper_old"
15:36 Jordach exactly
15:37 PilzAdam everything clear now?
15:38 Jordach yep
15:38 PilzAdam good
15:39 Jordach my learning code just accelerated by 16x
15:39 Jordach (mind preparing for C++ course)
15:40 PilzAdam learn java
15:40 Jordach no.
15:40 Jordach i'd have something that cleans itself
15:42 Jordach white wallpaper drops itself - because old paper is white, thus meaning (white can be re-dyed) white drops white, even though the others become old paper
15:43 Jordach i know what i want with the mod by the end you will probably need a papyrus farm, since it eats alot - 1 default:paper is 3 of em
15:44 * Jordach makes secondary mod - that is recommended
15:44 PilzAdam my farming mod adds papyrus growing
15:45 Jordach good poiny
15:45 Jordach point
15:45 Jordach but some people might not want other FULL mods
15:45 Jordach like mesecons, they are separate
15:45 Jordach so that they can have their own little fork - in that sense
15:46 PilzAdam people can install more mods IMO
15:46 Jordach yes, but what if you want a smaller variant
15:46 Jordach and you SUCK at modding
15:47 PilzAdam just dont use the unwanted items/nodes
15:47 PilzAdam that is my philosphy
15:48 PilzAdam install as many mods as possbile and use only a few of them
15:48 Jordach so would          on_construct = func(drop = "wallpaper:roller"),
15:48 PilzAdam nope
15:48 PilzAdam wait
15:50 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/3622654
15:51 VanessaE back
15:51 PilzAdam hi again
15:51 Jordach i see pilz,
15:51 Jordach thank you
15:52 PilzAdam Jordach, but why dont use a item instead of node?
15:52 PilzAdam btw Adam and not Pilz
15:52 Jordach because i want IT to LOOK like a tool
15:52 Jordach s/tool/TOOL
15:52 Jordach and VanessaE's mod does the same with the paint roller
15:52 PilzAdam you can create a item
15:53 Jordach is a node, but looks like a tool
15:53 PilzAdam that drops a item when placing it
15:53 Jordach but how i have it works better
15:53 Jordach no extra defs
15:53 * VanessaE pops some bubble wrap
15:53 PilzAdam why use a node that looks like tool, when you can use tool that looks like tool?
15:54 VanessaE in my case, because I didn't know how tools worked at the time
15:54 VanessaE (still don't)
15:54 Jordach STOP.
15:54 Jordach pass me the bubble wrap
15:55 VanessaE haha
15:55 Jordach everyone turns into kids when that comes out
15:55 Jordach tell me im wrong
15:55 PilzAdam you are wrong
15:55 VanessaE just boxed up one of my little gadgets to send out tomorrow
15:55 VanessaE so of course the bubble wrap came out :-)
15:55 Jordach your c64/128 toys
15:56 VanessaE yeah.
15:57 VanessaE but I was avoiding mentioning that because it's way off topic :-)
15:58 VanessaE "my little gadgets" coulda been foam pickaxes designed like my HDX Mese Pick :-)
16:02 Jordach VanessaE - does unified dyes still have :red/blue/<whatever>?
16:02 Jordach OR - have a way to craft the default dyes
16:02 VanessaE yes, why?
16:03 Jordach i was wondering - add supoort for unified or use the default dyes
16:03 VanessaE dyes crafted in unified dyes are compatible with mods that use the inbuilt dye system properly
16:03 VanessaE i.e. mods that rely on dye groups
16:03 Jordach PROPERLY. HA!
16:03 Jordach ill use the default dyes
16:03 VanessaE go ahead
16:03 VanessaE UD will connect with them.
16:03 VanessaE if you make unifieddyes:red, wool_red will use it
16:03 VanessaE for example
16:04 VanessaE (or whatever the node name is for built-in red wool)
16:04 Jordach sneaky
16:11 Jordach hehe
16:17 Jordach made separate way to create dyes - for the default mod - VanessaE, you can help me later.
16:18 * VanessaE shrugs
16:18 VanessaE my way is best. :-)
16:18 VanessaE forces the user to actually work for their colors instead of doing something stupid like craft flower -> dye
16:19 Jordach thats what i am doing as well - but mine for brown is evil
16:19 Jordach dirt + water bucket + orange
16:19 Jordach (dye)
16:20 Jordach at LEAST it adds a basic way to add in the default dyes
16:21 * Jordach bangs head on wall
16:22 Jordach 11 (wallpaper) * 10 carpets * 11 paints = whole bunch of fun
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16:23 Jordach VanessaE - 11 (wallpaper) * 10 carpets * 11 paints = whole bunch of fun
16:24 Jordach ill leave the mod for now
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16:33 Jordach PilzAdam; http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=37898#p37898 handy to know.
16:33 PilzAdam thats what it meant to be: handy
16:49 Jordach VanessaE - im making a replica space shuttle
16:51 VanessaE cool
17:21 PilzAdam lol "[...] Minetest-c55, dessen Hauptentwickler Fremdbeiträge eher vorsichtig handhabt;" google translated: "[...] Minetest-c55, whose main developer of foreign contributions rather careful handle;"
17:21 PilzAdam from: http://blog.dieweltistgarn​ichtso.net/minetest-delta
17:23 VanessaE er, ok
17:40 Jordach lol
19:49 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/A0inQ.png SPACE!
19:49 Jordach ISH....
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22:15 * jordach-tab waits for technic mod :-)
22:15 jordach-tab looks awesome.

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