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IRC log for #minetest-mods, 2012-09-02

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00:24 ecube joined #minetest-mods
10:26 PilzAdam joined #minetest-mods
11:28 Jordach joined #minetest-mods
11:28 Jordach good morning
12:18 VanessaE joined #minetest-mods
12:40 Jordach i see your 30km away
12:40 Jordach (minetest wise)
12:41 Jordach VanessaE, i tried larger maps
12:41 VanessaE and?
12:41 Jordach 62000 all dirs
12:41 Jordach and the game at 32700 stops rendering
12:41 Jordach EVERYTHING
12:41 Jordach unless i have full viewing range
12:41 Jordach i cant see beyond that point
12:41 VanessaE I'm curious
12:42 Jordach https://github.com/celeron55/minete​st/issues/228#issuecomment-8221532
12:42 VanessaE at around 30000 in both X and Z, do you see objects glitching out?  edges that dance around, signs disappearing?
12:42 Jordach there is a #define in constants.h
12:42 Jordach change that into 62000 or (anything bigger than 32700
12:42 VanessaE like this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBDPPJ6t0wA
12:42 Jordach i saw
12:43 Jordach next time, dont record at 720p
12:43 VanessaE oh I guess you DID see :)
12:44 VanessaE eh
12:44 VanessaE 720p is a necessity for this kind of issue to be evident
12:45 VanessaE besides, the game isn't supposed to render anything past ~31000
12:45 VanessaE so no surprise it gets weird above 32600 :-)
12:49 Jordach ive tried inf maps
12:50 Jordach (and a un-signed v3s16
12:50 Jordach thats the problem
12:50 Jordach v3s16 is a 16 bit bastard
12:50 Jordach ergo - 31000
12:51 Jordach VanessaE; minetest can go beyond 31000 upto infinity +1
12:51 Jordach but the co-ordinate system and v3s16 is the bug that stops it
12:52 VanessaE so how to fix it?
12:52 Jordach un-sign v3s16
12:52 VanessaE and how to fix the rendering bugs when you're that far out, for that matter...
12:52 Jordach (un-signed variables can hold any number) its the co-ords that do it
12:53 VanessaE unsigned 16 bit can only go 0-65535, so you'd need a signed long instead
12:53 Jordach yes, but we need a converter
12:53 VanessaE (that'll go ~ -2 billion to +2 billion)
12:53 Jordach 2 bill would do me
12:53 VanessaE go over to -dev and ask c55 if there's anything technically stopping the idea
12:54 VanessaE he's there
12:54 Jordach no.
12:54 Jordach thats for you
12:54 VanessaE no sense pursing it if there's some fundamental limit
12:54 Jordach the graphics and map size are related
12:54 VanessaE no, he doesn't like me too much as it is
12:54 VanessaE I need others to propose these ideas
13:03 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=40649#p40649
13:05 VanessaE jordach: v3s16 must be changed into a long integer.   <-- into a long *signed* integer
13:05 Jordach updated
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13:18 Jordach found a bug about those odd shadows
13:19 VanessaE it's the floating islands that does it
13:19 Jordach not that, but the strange pattern it made
13:20 thexyz VanessaE: no
13:20 VanessaE oh
13:20 VanessaE what odd shadows then?
13:20 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/t6nEM.jpg
13:20 VanessaE OH those
13:20 Jordach its a box around my spawn
13:20 Jordach A BOX AROUND MY SPAWN
13:20 VanessaE I've seen those on my maps before too - what IS the cause?
13:20 thexyz https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/195
13:26 Jordach the f10 bug happens on windows too
13:27 VanessaE Jordach: odd workaround: you can decrease your chance of crashing (in linux) if you are spinning while you hit F10 - that is, slide the mouse to one side and hit F10 while it's moving.
13:27 VanessaE for reasons that escape me, it works more often than not.
13:27 thexyz strange
13:28 thexyz never have had such crash
13:28 VanessaE doesn't completely stop the crash, but it does seem to help
13:28 Jordach i just literally check the chat with f10 and this has encountered an error and needs to close
13:28 VanessaE "deep inside irrlicht" is c55's guess where the bug is
13:28 Jordach or what we see from c55, deep inside minetest
13:29 VanessaE thexyz: it only seems to happen in multiplayer mode
13:29 VanessaE never had it happen in singleplayer
13:29 thexyz it doesn't happen for me even in multiplayer
13:30 VanessaE huh.
13:47 Jordach VanessaE; another texture bug; without lighting, http://i.imgur.com/Fexnt.png / with lights, http://i.imgur.com/z72qh.png
13:53 VanessaE Jordach: Turn on "smooth lighting" in the settings
13:53 Jordach no
13:53 VanessaE it helps somewhat
13:54 VanessaE two stereos btw? :-)
13:54 Jordach symetry
13:54 Jordach thats the new spawn room
13:54 VanessaE fair enough
13:55 VanessaE I should make a big old-style console stereo like my grandma used to have
13:55 VanessaE ~2x2x6 feet, would be 1x1x4 nodes in minetest
13:55 VanessaE (because bigger looks better in the game)
14:01 VanessaE file a bug report :-)(
14:01 VanessaE on the lighting I mean
14:01 Jordach ive done enough for today
14:02 Jordach i also found out the content ignore bug
14:02 VanessaE I ain't doing it, c55 hates me enough as it is :-)
14:02 Jordach with my serv
14:02 Jordach you know fire decorates
14:02 Jordach on my place
14:03 VanessaE yes
14:03 Jordach thats what caused the content ignore
14:04 Jordach basic_fire is re-named
14:04 VanessaE ah
14:04 VanessaE it's supposed to be basic_flame, no?
14:04 VanessaE btw, I wonder if that can be animated too?
14:04 Jordach ye
14:04 Jordach fire:flame
14:05 * Jordach removed fire mod
14:05 Jordach i also found the weird turning bug soloution
14:06 Jordach move the minetest window away from screen edges
14:06 VanessaE turning bug?>
14:07 PilzAdam is there something like the java continue in lua?
14:07 Jordach dunno
14:07 Jordach VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1267
14:08 VanessaE oh that
14:08 Jordach yeah
14:08 Jordach i moved the minetest window so only half can be seen, turns out the mouse cant move unless there is screen room
14:38 Jordach VanessaE, some dude put a bomb under a friend of a friend's car
14:38 VanessaE oh my
14:38 VanessaE is the friend-of-friend okay?
14:38 Jordach hes about 30mi. away
14:39 Jordach whole street is out the houses
14:39 Jordach my dad says today going to go out with a bang
14:39 VanessaE *groan*
14:40 Jordach in the past 3 yeaars weve had 5 murders, 1 bomb, serveral assaults..
14:40 VanessaE where the hell do you live?  Detroit?
14:40 Jordach i thought im in london
14:44 Jordach trying to find my self on google
14:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/WGjcd.jpg
14:52 Jordach 500ft (long bar) 100m (short bar)
14:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you create a mesecon version with redstone textures that i can add to MiniTest
14:59 PilzAdam ?
14:59 Jordach et hum.
14:59 Jordach talking about MC textures
15:00 * Jordach drinks beer
15:00 PilzAdam Jordach, it already uses your textures
15:00 Jordach :D
15:00 Jordach btw
15:00 Jordach i can make the textures if you want
15:00 Jordach :)
15:00 Jordach i already did moreores
15:00 PilzAdam okay
15:05 VanessaE PilzAdam: I dunno, I could probably make something that resembles redstone, but it'll take a long while yet
15:05 VanessaE I assume you just want the conductors to be that way and not the whole theme
15:06 PilzAdam it would be better if it was the whole theme.... but conductors are a good beginning :-)
15:06 PilzAdam also Jordach want to do something
15:06 VanessaE eh, the whole theme isn't doable really, it would require a whole new version of mesecons
15:06 Jordach et hum
15:06 Jordach remove the un-needed folers
15:07 PilzAdam it just have to be a bit like MC redstone
15:07 VanessaE (as in new nodeboxes, new textures, and even new code in a few places)
15:08 Jordach node boxes extrude the texture\
15:08 VanessaE eh, no they don't :-)
15:08 Jordach see xpanes
15:08 VanessaE they are fully customized, in some cases 6 textures per object
15:09 VanessaE they can be made to look that way though
15:20 * Jordach picks up bottle, finds its empty :(
15:21 * VanessaE hands Jordach a bottle of sugar-free pink lemonade
15:22 Jordach ill drink anything - except sugar free crap
15:25 * Jordach slaps VanessaE with pure nothing
15:29 VanessaE I have to drink sugar free
15:30 Jordach i know
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22:20 VanessaE yay!  My animated torches and vessels mods are in minetest_game now! \o/

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