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Jordach |
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Jordach |
minetest.check_for_falling fails after using minetest.remove_node() and minetest.dig_node() |
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timdorohin |
Well, i have no idea what to do now. Redis background save causes server lag up to 11s every time it wants to, and i can't figure out reason of this (la and iowait still small). |
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sfan5 |
does redis stop responding during that time? |
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timdorohin |
redis-bgsave is non-blocking by design, so... |
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timdorohin |
sfan5: https://mtstat.us.openode.io/lor.minetestserver.ga:30000 - maximum lag chart. at 11:31 and 11:36 redis saved db |
| 09:20 |
sfan5 |
I know that it's designed to be non-blocking, but the question is what happens in practice |
| 09:20 |
timdorohin |
at this time server was running about 2-3 hours |
| 09:23 |
timdorohin |
sfan5: anything. at 11:45 i restarted server and everything was fine till 11:47 when redis saved db again |
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timdorohin |
sfan5: and after second restart (12:03) looks like issue is gone. Heisenbug! |
| 09:29 |
timdorohin |
It's windows-style of problem solving: reboot and pray until it works again |
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timdorohin |
But really, io load is 5%, LA<1 what could be wrong? |
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longerstaff13-m |
Having to use my phone through a flipping wifi extender at church as the main router doesn't seem to work with my phone |
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longerstaff13-m |
Both are Netgear |
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longerstaff13-m |
My sister and her fiancé can get on with their phones (then again, my phone does have faulty wifi in it) |
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rdococ |
I'm going to use Blockly for my "using blocks to program Minetest mods" concept. |
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rdococ |
My screen is so small, even though it has thousands of pixels... |
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rdococ |
In fact, it has more than a million pixels and yet it's so small. |
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Krock |
rdococ: street lanterns are one pixel and YUGE |
| 14:41 |
rdococ |
The screen's not necessarily *physically* small, but stuff can feel so cramped |
| 14:42 |
rdococ |
Especially on Discord, or when using the Blockly Developer Tools. |
| 14:46 |
rdococ |
hmm... should drawtype just be a text field or an input? |
| 14:48 |
rdococ |
actually, I might create a block for each drawtype that lets you specify various inputs for them |
| 14:52 |
rdococ |
Krock: if you only specify 3 tiles to register_node, are they interpreted as {Y, X, Z}? |
| 14:53 |
Krock |
depends on drawtype |
| 14:53 |
rdococ |
normal drawtype |
| 14:54 |
rdococ |
I've decided to have a block for every drawtype that includes inputs for the drawtype and any properties the drawtype has |
| 14:55 |
Krock |
for normal it's https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L5845 |
| 14:55 |
Krock |
that's without any rotation applied |
| 14:55 |
Krock |
i.e. param2 = 0 |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks :) hey Krock |
| 16:31 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 16:33 |
Mr_Pardison |
ayyy |
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timdorohin |
sfan5: well, lags gone after swithing redis to appendonly log persistence |
| 16:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister :) |
| 16:34 |
timdorohin |
tenplus1: hi |
| 16:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi tim :P |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
I added very simple pushing abilities to mobs api, you can now push cows/sheep/pigs around |
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timdorohin |
tenplus1: Yay! |
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Mr_Pardison |
time to do some herding! |
| 16:38 |
tenplus1 |
in mob definition add: pushable = true, |
| 16:38 |
tenplus1 |
I've only done it for those 3 animals so far :D |
| 16:38 |
IcyDiamond |
I'm trying to make a multiblock structure for fusion reactor but i have no idea how to validate these positions with facedir supported as well |
| 16:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi icy |
| 16:39 |
IcyDiamond |
hi |
| 16:40 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-19:39:43.png this is how i store the structure, the one i've selected is the controller that i want to check its surroundings at |
| 16:40 |
IcyDiamond |
topmost array is y |
| 16:41 |
IcyDiamond |
table, sorry |
| 16:41 |
IcyDiamond |
this is lua |
| 16:41 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 16:41 |
IcyDiamond |
im way too bad at math but im going to try anyway |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
ah HAH! |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1 *pounce* |
| 16:43 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Vanessa |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: I've been waiting for you :) |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
whassup ? |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
I was wondering if you'd be willing to work your "redo" magic on bas080's bees and vines mods? |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
link me with the mods andI'll check 'em out |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/bas080/vines ~ https://github.com/bas080/bees |
| 16:46 |
tenplus1 |
okies, bookmarked them, will check both out :P |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 16:53 |
IcyDiamond |
lua could really use `continue` |
| 16:53 |
IcyDiamond |
>.> |
| 16:54 |
tenplus1 |
explain icy ??? |
| 16:54 |
IcyDiamond |
stacked if statements in loops are so disgusting looking |
| 16:54 |
IcyDiamond |
for something do if something ~= 1 then continue end ... end |
| 16:55 |
tenplus1 |
isnt that what while loops are for ? |
| 16:55 |
IcyDiamond |
as opposed to right now you need |
| 16:55 |
IcyDiamond |
for something do if something ~= 1 then .. end end |
| 16:55 |
tenplus1 |
while condition is true, loop ? |
| 16:55 |
IcyDiamond |
but the if statements stack up.. |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
refactor, functionalize |
| 16:56 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-19:55:52.png |
| 16:56 |
IcyDiamond |
im probably a bad coder |
| 16:56 |
IcyDiamond |
but oh well |
| 16:56 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
| 16:57 |
IcyDiamond |
in that screen, if i could use if idef > 0 then continue end, it would save an ident |
| 16:57 |
IcyDiamond |
same with if defi.millibuckets > 0 then |
| 16:57 |
IcyDiamond |
okay that one is a bad example but yeah |
| 16:57 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 16:58 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-19:58:23.png idents just annoy me but inline looks even worse |
| 16:59 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-19:58:57.png see, this is much better |
| 16:59 |
IcyDiamond |
XD |
| 16:59 |
tenplus1 |
so long as code is readable I'm ok with either or |
| 17:00 |
IcyDiamond |
first screen is wrong, it needs to be ~= |
| 17:00 |
IcyDiamond |
w/e |
| 17:02 |
IcyDiamond |
ill figure this out one day |
| 17:02 |
IcyDiamond |
rn im too lazy |
| 17:06 |
IcyDiamond |
can you rotate a voxelmanip? |
| 17:07 |
tenplus1 |
doesnt voxelmanip have it's own schematic placement, and if so a rotation option like the original |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
IcyDiamond: "continue"? Since when? |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
is there a graceful way to transfer a node's metadata into the itemstack that's created when its dug? |
| 17:08 |
IcyDiamond |
Krock: 18:53 <+IcyDiamond> lua could really use `continue` |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
it's* |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
well, it has goto |
| 17:08 |
IcyDiamond |
meh |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
might be able to use on_dig Vanessa, copy metadata, add item, paste information and remove node |
| 17:09 |
Krock |
and if you have many nested if-checks to reduce, then use repeat until false end |
| 17:09 |
IcyDiamond |
i hate the idea of gotos in any language |
| 17:09 |
Krock |
and breaks inside |
| 17:09 |
tenplus1 |
goto's can be handy sometimes, but messy |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
preserve_metadata = function(pos, node, old_meta, drops) ... end |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
that as node definition. not sure if it requires 5.0-dev, though. |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
...is not availabe in 0.4 |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
+l |
| 17:15 |
Krock |
ah |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
after_dig_node provides the node information, but not the itemstack |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
continue is a goto |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
well, it's a jump |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
:D |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
if false then is also a jump |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
very true |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
function calls too.. there's not much more than computing or jumping in code |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
there's no real need for jumps |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
just skips |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
you don't really need turing completeness |
| 17:19 |
Krock |
but then you can't implement loops, if you only skip |
| 17:19 |
Krock |
it has to go back in some point |
| 17:20 |
timdorohin |
Krock: just skip through pointer overflow) |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
(unbalanced parentheses are now balanced again |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
VanessaE: sounds like you need an engine change which adds "keep_meta" to the drop table |
| 17:21 |
rubenwardy |
you can unroll loops |
| 17:21 |
rubenwardy |
it'll be fine |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
this requires loops to have a static count of iterations |
| 17:21 |
rubenwardy |
or you could have virtual mapping of instructions |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
Krock: I'm doing as tenplus1 suggesteed |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
-s |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
-e |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
jfosnjobgjo[sbrwjobgajortbjo[ |
| 17:22 |
Krock |
apt-get purge your-old-keyboard |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
apt-get upgrade --force new-hands |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
run update first to ensure you've got the latests information |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
-s |
| 17:24 |
rdococ |
ugh |
| 17:24 |
rdococ |
there doesn't seem to be a channel to help with blockly development. |
| 17:24 |
rdococ |
#blockly and ##blockly don't exist on freenode, at least |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
also search though the channel descriptions. they might use another main channel |
| 17:26 |
rdococ |
For some reason, I can't get the development tools to export workspaceBlocks.xml |
| 17:26 |
rdococ |
the file's just empty |
| 17:26 |
rdococ |
well, it contains an empty xml tag |
| 17:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
| 17:27 |
rdococ |
hi |
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rdococ |
there seem to be tons of errors in the developer console about parsing JSON |
| 17:35 |
rdococ |
I have no idea why |
| 17:35 |
rdococ |
I'm trying to read the errors but I can't even access the JSON that the error is occuring with |
| 17:41 |
Fixer |
apt-get install white cheap yet good mitsumi classic back make keyboards great again without this thin hipster shit |
| 17:42 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 17:43 |
rdococ |
make minecraft great again, by playing minetest insteaad |
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tenplus1 |
o/ calcul0n |
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rdococ |
I might switch back to using Snap! blocks that don't do anything coupled with a completely separate interpreter in Lua. |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
At this point, it isn't even my own incompetence, but just that the tools I'm using are broken. |
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tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 17:59 |
benrob0329 |
Hello tenplus1 |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
he makes some amaziung redstone builds |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
| 18:04 |
Mr_Pardison |
ty |
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VanessaE |
tenplus1, Krock: in case you're curious, my solution: https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/minislots/commit/5b3cdf0af6b44ee7d0e933f8bb5f7b7d2c3478d3 |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
it's a bit manual, maybe a little brute-force, but it works. |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
I just wish I could set the itemstack's description or the contents of its mouseover tooltip |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
oh wait...I can |
| 18:13 |
tenplus1 |
hehe yay :) |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/minislots/commit/7e37f00d826be36a536beca1351dd8de3ebc9d21 |
| 18:21 |
tenplus1 |
now the money goes with the slot machine :) nice |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 18:21 |
VanessaE |
it used to require you to cash-out before it would let you dig |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
this is in prep for another feature though |
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rdococ |
I feel sad. |
| 18:23 |
tenplus1 |
you shoudl make a server called Casino Royale where you play machines to raise cash and buy blocks to build with :D |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
aw, rdococ has a sad :( |
| 18:24 |
tenplus1 |
why you sad rdococ ?? |
| 18:24 |
Mr_Pardison |
tenplus1: that's actually a very good idea. |
| 18:24 |
rdococ |
blockly developer tools doesn't want to export workspace blocks... |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: in fact, saving this stuff into the item meta is part of that next feature - I'm gonna add a basic owner's-only info/config screen, and the casino name is one thing they'll be able to set |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
I wanted to create a system that would allow you to create minetest mods in a visual environment |
| 18:25 |
Mr_Pardison |
could also have more fancy/expensive machines that allow you to directly get building items. |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
imagine trying to create a visual programming language with minetest formspecs, though |
| 18:25 |
tenplus1 |
nuuu, around the machines are store blocks that showcase and sell blocks :) it all adds to the experience :D |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
tenplus1: and since it takes in and pays-out minegeld, your idea could work :) |
| 18:25 |
Mr_Pardison |
no but for ones that you can't craft. |
| 18:26 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, gotcha mister :D |
| 18:28 |
IcyDiamond |
sweet |
| 18:28 |
IcyDiamond |
i got my multi-node structure to work |
| 18:28 |
IcyDiamond |
not with facedir yet tho |
| 18:29 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-21:28:44.png even reports errors |
| 18:30 |
rdococ |
Ooh, imagine creating Minetest mods in Minetest |
| 18:31 |
IcyDiamond |
no idea how to do this with accounting facedir |
| 18:31 |
IcyDiamond |
guess i have to rotate an array somehow |
| 18:31 |
tenplus1 |
unless you have 4x arrays for each direction |
| 18:31 |
timdorohin |
rdococ: we need to go deeper :D |
| 18:31 |
tenplus1 |
and depending on direction of coinsole it checks whichever array suits that orientation |
| 18:31 |
rdococ |
something like scriptblocks, except you would select a region and it would scan for nodes that act like hat blocks or definitions on their own and then it would translate it to lua |
| 18:32 |
rdococ |
we can call it... nodely |
| 18:33 |
IcyDiamond |
https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-09-15-21:33:15.png my data |
| 18:33 |
IcyDiamond |
xD |
| 18:33 |
IcyDiamond |
the variables are content IDs so its easy to compare to voxelmanip |
| 18:34 |
rdococ |
looks like the width and height are 15, correct? |
| 18:34 |
IcyDiamond |
yes |
| 18:35 |
tenplus1 |
wait, thought it was 3 high ? 15wide 15 deep ? |
| 18:35 |
rdococ |
yes |
| 18:35 |
IcyDiamond |
yes |
| 18:36 |
rdococ |
then you can convert them to coordinates, and then rotate the coordinates |
| 18:37 |
IcyDiamond |
https://termbin.lunasqu.ee/ms4u heres how i do it right now |
| 18:37 |
IcyDiamond |
(its bad i know) |
| 18:37 |
rdococ |
x = (i - 1) % 15; y = math.floor((i - 1) / 15); -- these coordinates are zero-indexed |
| 18:38 |
rdococ |
s/y/z/ |
| 18:38 |
IcyDiamond |
yeah |
| 18:41 |
tenplus1 |
this may sound silly but, how about minetest.find_nodes_in_area(pos1, pos2, {"group:nodebits")) |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
count how many of the purple blocks it contains, and only check if "air" is in the right places |
| 18:42 |
rdococ |
minetest.find_nodes_in_area(yay, yay, yay) |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
that way you dont need to rorate |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
*rotate... if air is in right place (since it's circular in any rotation) and number of group:nodebits is accurate then it's build properly :D |
| 18:43 |
IcyDiamond |
well i need specific nodes in specific places |
| 18:43 |
IcyDiamond |
on the structure |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
check for air and the 4 possible controller positions, if pos1 or pos2 or pos3 or pos4 etc |
| 18:44 |
tenplus1 |
that way you dont need to scroll through every solid node, only air which voxelmanip can check real quick |
| 18:44 |
tenplus1 |
and since it's circular an easy find_nodes_in_area can count the solid bits |
| 18:45 |
tenplus1 |
just a possibility :D |
| 18:48 |
rdococ |
actually, if you offset the x and y so that they're centered around 0 (you might have to offset by a non-integer, but there shouldn't be any precision loss if you only offset by whole halves e.g. 7.5) then you can multiply each coordinate based on the four directions |
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rdococ |
https://github.com/google/blockly-devtools/issues/307 |
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tenplus1 |
nite all o/// |
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Calinou |
hi :) |
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xerox123 |
word of caution, that bug where spamming spaces makes it look like someone else said something? Just happened on a server, might be just one guy doing it everywhere |
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ChimneySwift |
servers which allow newline characters in chat also have that issue if people insert them with csm |
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ChimneySwift |
it's good to know that it's possible though, if people are getting fooled they need to be told that it's a thing XD |
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ChimneySwift |
large monitors and chat coloring csms also ruin those |
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rdococ |
blockly developer tools combined with my testing document was more than my RAM could handle |
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rdococ |
I'll need to download more :/ |
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ChimneySwift |
dang, make sure you delete system32 before trying to download more ram |
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rdococ |
if your internet is fast enough, cloud RAM |
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ChimneySwift |
XD |
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