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IRC log for #minetest-dev, 2021-10-14

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00:19 MTDiscord <Jordach> uh some recent changes to irrlicht are causing the dreaded spinning camera bugs
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00:48 MTDiscord <Jordach> four month old build -> still spinning
00:48 MTDiscord <Jordach> launching MT from a terminal on mac prevents this
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10:20 Wuzzy hey sfan5, let's talk about 11110 i guess its easier in chat ...
10:21 Wuzzy so are you still in the review process or are you done?
10:21 Wuzzy (i agree with the current new comments, however)
10:22 sfan5 #11110
10:22 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11110 -- Fix number of tool uses being off by 1..32767 by Wuzzy2
10:22 sfan5 no thats all
10:22 sfan5 I didn't test the PR yet but I assume I'll find that it works
10:24 Wuzzy cool, thanks
10:29 MTDiscord <luatic> I'm getting the impression that somewhen during the last 5 years, character.b3d lost it's normals.
10:32 MTDiscord <luatic> https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/2e7b509a94dbbe2c407d47e9bd1ad1d97c403cfe#diff-bc34e796b0cb0c4371a3c073649334c4abfee8b0780758b41c6bb2725ae2771e removed the normals from character.b3d! Please revert!
10:33 MTDiscord <luatic> I always found it suspicious how that commit reduced the size of character.b3d
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10:41 MTDiscord <luatic> https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2901
10:44 sfan5 instead of creating a revert pull it would be better to create one that re-exports the model with normals
10:47 MTDiscord <luatic> I am not good with exporting B3D models though
10:47 MTDiscord <luatic> s/with/at
10:48 MTDiscord <luatic> I'll try GreenXenith's exporter now (https://github.com/GreenXenith/io_scene_b3d), we'll see
11:09 MTDiscord <luatic> Turns out the exporter apparently has some kind of config for exporting normals which is by default set to false. I just hardcoded true for now and got a fixed model with normals:
11:09 MTDiscord <luatic> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747163566800633906/898165641004081194/character.b3d
11:17 MTDiscord <luatic> There you go, game#2902
11:17 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2902 -- Readd character.b3d normals by appgurueu
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14:10 appguru Krock: Can you provide the second approval? I'd like to see it merged quickly - a mod of mine needs those normals.
14:16 sfan5 are you sure your users use 5.5.0-dev
14:18 MTDiscord <luatic> Well, only 5.4.x is missing the normals so far. And indeed, my mod might actually force users to use 5.5.0-dev as it will likely use the new dynamic media API.
14:21 MTDiscord <luatic> Oh, and the PNG writing utility ;)
14:27 MTDiscord <luatic> Question related to that: The only advantage I see in using the embedded [png modifier is that it would only be sent to players who actually receive the texture, while dynamic media is sent to either all clients, or single clients specified by the modder. On the other hand, the embedded modifier would probably be sent over the wire many times, whenever object properties / formspecs / whatever uses the texture is sent, plus there is some
14:27 MTDiscord overhead from the base64 encoding and texture parsing. Currently, both can't be removed from caches and stay there forever.
14:30 sfan5 you have understood why I was so against adding it
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14:58 MTDiscord <luatic> Lazy loading of dynamic media would be nice
15:02 celeron55 spinny loading icons everywhere
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16:33 MTDiscord <luatic> It looks like player:get_look_dir() is slightly off sometimes?
16:38 MTDiscord <luatic> #11692
16:38 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11692 -- player:get_look_dir() is slightly off sometimes
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17:53 pgimeno but view bobbing is client side, right?
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17:58 pgimeno does that mean that the client is constantly sending updated view coordinates to the server?
18:01 Krock it does send yaw and pitch
18:02 Krock and the resolution is 1/100 acccording to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/network/serverpackethandler.cpp#L481-L482
18:02 Krock this should really be a f32 ...
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19:16 appguru Trivial partial view bobbing fix: #11695
19:16 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11695 -- Fix view bobbing not resetting when resting by appgurueu
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