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Zeno` |
hmmmm, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/mapblock_mesh.cpp#L247 |
| 04:20 |
Zeno` |
^^ is there any way that can be done faster? |
| 04:20 |
Zeno` |
or anyone else... :) |
| 04:21 |
Zeno` |
data->m_vmanip.getNodeNoEx() is kind of slow and this is being done a lot of times every frame |
| 05:00 |
RealBadAngel |
Zeno`, its not done on each frame |
| 05:02 |
Zeno` |
no? |
| 05:02 |
Zeno` |
time of day maybe? |
| 05:02 |
RealBadAngel |
also not ;) |
| 05:03 |
RealBadAngel |
meshes are updated on dig, place or change camera view |
| 05:03 |
Zeno` |
well, yes, so if you're moving every frame? |
| 05:04 |
RealBadAngel |
just put something that will dump a text to console at the start of mapblock mesh |
| 05:04 |
RealBadAngel |
you will see how often its called |
| 05:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i will remove highlighting and cracks from here too, so it will be called even less often |
| 05:08 |
Zeno` |
it's called a lot |
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Zeno` |
1850616 times in my last test (with 373 called to Game::updateFrame()) |
| 05:09 |
Zeno` |
16809984 calls to getTileInfo |
| 05:09 |
RealBadAngel |
blocks are big |
| 05:09 |
Zeno` |
they are :) |
| 05:10 |
RealBadAngel |
count calls to mapblock mesh not its helpers |
| 05:10 |
RealBadAngel |
and btw, ofc it can be done faster |
| 05:10 |
Zeno` |
1368 calls to MapBlockMesh:: |
| 05:10 |
RealBadAngel |
just enable the lighting and trash it ;) |
| 05:11 |
Zeno` |
enable the lighting? :3 |
| 05:12 |
RealBadAngel |
irrlicht lights |
| 05:12 |
Zeno` |
oh is that all |
| 05:12 |
Zeno` |
I'll do that right this second.. gimme 10 |
| 05:13 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, not that easy |
| 05:14 |
RealBadAngel |
some kind of old lighting has to be left there, just to calculate light level at pos |
| 05:14 |
Zeno` |
yeah I was being sarcastic :D |
| 05:15 |
Zeno` |
there we go, 5 nanoseconds improvement |
| 05:22 |
RealBadAngel |
where? |
| 06:22 |
kahrl |
Zeno`: I added some comments to refactor_main, will probably investigate the question of whether the current_xyz fields are needed later |
| 06:22 |
kahrl |
need to sleep now, cya |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
thanks |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
sleep wel |
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Zeno` |
Is there a 0.4.11 release plan? |
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| 10:03 |
Zeno` |
#1788 |
| 10:03 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1788 -- Update Indonesian Language by srifqi |
| 10:03 |
Zeno` |
any objections? |
| 10:05 |
Zeno` |
any comments? |
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Zeno` |
I'm going to merge 1788 |
| 10:20 |
Zeno` |
srifqi contributed the original file so I am assuming that they want to improve their translation |
| 10:21 |
Zeno` |
sound fair? |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
| 10:38 |
Amaz |
Everyone seems to be dead... |
| 10:38 |
Zeno` |
I can't see anything wrong with the translation |
| 10:39 |
Zeno` |
It's trivial... I will apply |
| 10:50 |
diemartin |
any news on weblate/whatever? |
| 10:51 |
kaeza |
(related) |
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Zeno` |
the what? |
| 10:54 |
Zeno` |
oh |
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kaeza |
... |
| 11:29 |
kaeza |
I will need more gun to kill (newly added) globals :/ |
| 11:30 |
kaeza |
or kill the ones that add them in the first place, rather |
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Fritigern |
Taoki: Remember? http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-03#i_3176733 |
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Taoki |
Fritigern: Hehe, yeah :P BBL though, need to go now |
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kaeza |
okay, maybe this will get negative comments, but can we deprecate all the symbols that are defined in the global namespace that shouldn't be and move them under `minetest`/`core`? (e.g. dump, ItemStack, nodeupdate) |
| 14:15 |
kaeza |
maybe not `dump`, because it's generic enough, but `nodeupdate` definitely does not belong in `_G` |
| 14:23 |
celeron55 |
nodeupdate is really a historic relic of the first ever test made for 0.4 that shouldn't have been there since two years ago 8) |
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kaeza |
I'm bringing #1341 up to date, and noticed that practically everything in `builtin/falling.lua` is being dumped into `_G`, for example |
| 15:05 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1341 -- Builtin cleanup, part 1 (game). by kaeza |
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kaeza |
err, `builtin/game/falling.lua` rather |
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ShadowNinja |
kaeza: nodeupdate should be namespaced. ItemStack, PerlinNoiseMap, PseudoRandom, VoxelManip, ... too, although it's awfully convenient to have them as globals. dump can stay global since it's only meant for quick debugging, real serializing should use serialize(). |
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celeron55 |
i don't think those types have any real need to be put in a namespace |
| 16:23 |
celeron55 |
they won't ever cause any trouble anyway |
| 16:24 |
celeron55 |
(being correct for the sole sake of being correct does not help anyone; only annoys people due to being unnecessary change) |
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ShadowNinja |
celeron55: BTW, you should /cs access add z3n0 dev |
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| 19:13 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, sfan5, PilzAdam, ShadowNinja any of you alive? |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
a sec. |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/GYVEWmK.png |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
how do you like such plantlike? |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
looks good |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
maybe make the cubes thinner |
| 19:16 |
RealBadAngel |
its already half the thickness of wielded mesh |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
main point is to use wielded meshes for other things |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
like the plantlike in this case |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre generated anyway, so not a problem to use them :) |
| 19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
also, signlike with second texture (in special tiles) which could be made runtime: http://i.imgur.com/36CFEmh.png - visual scale of a sign = 10.0 |
| 19:23 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/RIm6BI7.png |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/LgEkEB5.png |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/B06cxs9.png |
| 19:27 |
PenguinDad |
I wonder if this would be useful for signs_lib |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc, it will draw sign realtime, without those gimmicks mod does |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
also VGA display will be posible |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
so any kind of display could be easily made, door lock pads, computer monitors, signs of any kind |
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RealBadAngel |
anything that will require text to be displayed on the surface |
| 19:32 |
Krock |
RealBadAngel, the plantlike drawing loks amazing! |
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| 19:33 |
Krock |
The text should have a shadow, so it's easier readable and looks better |
| 19:34 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/TwSDoSm.png <-- with shaders |
| 19:35 |
Krock |
interesting |
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RealBadAngel |
i need to port one function from irrlicht 1.8 to mt again for the feature to be perfect |
| 19:36 |
RealBadAngel |
1.7 lacks it |
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PenguinDad |
Krock: only if the font shadows are optional |
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RealBadAngel |
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1scene_1_1_i_mesh_manipulator.html#a5003ca5eabee96fe1c871bdb25ae43fd |
| 19:37 |
OldCoder |
ERROR: plantlife/trunks/generating.lua:146: attempt to index a nil value |
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OldCoder |
ERROR: plantlife/trunks/generating.lua:146: nodes_or_function_or_model |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 19:37 |
Krock |
wat? still using irrlicht 1.7? |
| 19:37 |
RealBadAngel |
we havent moved to 1.8 |
| 19:37 |
RealBadAngel |
beacause of some distros |
| 19:37 |
Krock |
oh. But it works |
| 19:37 |
celeron55 |
i generally don't like those cubic plants |
| 19:37 |
RealBadAngel |
not for me and older systems |
| 19:38 |
celeron55 |
i like to give the precise shape of many things to my imagination |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
I think there will be a setting for it, celeron55 ;) |
| 19:38 |
Sokomine |
the latest version does not compile for me: po/id/minetest.po seems to be the problem |
| 19:38 |
RealBadAngel |
celeron55, its voxelsish more than invisible plane ;) |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
Sokomine, gettext broken? |
| 19:38 |
celeron55 |
RealBadAngel: and? |
| 19:38 |
RealBadAngel |
looking straight down makes plantlike ivisible at all |
| 19:39 |
celeron55 |
not a problem for me |
| 19:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and this is lookin just cool |
| 19:39 |
Krock |
^ explain pls |
| 19:39 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc this will have to be an option |
| 19:39 |
RealBadAngel |
like fancy trees before |
| 19:39 |
RealBadAngel |
its just lotsa polygons more |
| 19:40 |
Sokomine |
krock: hm, perhaps. compiling without -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 fails likewise |
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Sokomine |
an option would be a good idea. people have diffrent tastes and can then change the game to look the way they like it |
| 19:41 |
PenguinDad |
Sokomine: are you sure that it doesn't work with -DENABLE_GETTEXT=OFF? |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
Sokomine, is there any error log |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
*? |
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RealBadAngel |
celeron55, how could you call flat sprite a shape? you are missing one dimension at least ;) |
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celeron55 |
RealBadAngel: why do you insist on making these last so-trying-to-be-cunning remarks to me |
| 19:48 |
RealBadAngel |
you seems always to be opposite to my ideas |
| 19:53 |
Sokomine |
krock pointed me to the solution (well, i probably ought to have take an look at the file myshelf): those "## Windows keyboard" lines seem to confuse whatever handles that file. deleting those lines helped |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
-> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1849 |
| 20:05 |
Sokomine |
celeron55: what realbadangel plans - especially regarding showing text on signs - is something we desperately need. the spawn at vanessaes server bears many signs - signs which show their text. and that seems to kill fps. we really need a better solution for that |
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Sokomine |
how plants are drawn is something else of course. hard to tell yet what will look/work best |
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celeron55 |
holy crap, it's like i just opposed everything everyone happens to be doing |
| 20:06 |
celeron55 |
I HAVE NOT OPPOSED ANYTHING, please just hilight someone else |
| 20:08 |
RealBadAngel |
celeron55, so just dont comment everything "i dont like it" in a first few words |
| 20:10 |
celeron55 |
i will, and i know some people agree with me; i like to side with them |
| 20:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Square plants look fine to me, but maybe a setting is in order. |
| 20:13 |
ShadowNinja |
Also, that translation issue broke the launchpad builds, so I'll merge it. |
| 20:14 |
Sokomine |
ShadowNinja: thanks. doing those changes as in krocks' pull request allowed me to compile the game again |
| 20:16 |
ShadowNinja |
Sources could use some organization. There are 18 mapgen-related files in the main dir. |
| 20:16 |
ShadowNinja |
About 10 database-related ones too. |
| 20:19 |
ShadowNinja |
gettext should be enabled in the travis build to catch these translation errors. |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, that plantlike looks weird |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
a 2 by 2 pixel area should also be 2 in depth |
| 20:21 |
PenguinDad |
RealBadAngel: the papyrus looks a bit thin |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
also the voxel detail is too high compared to the normal nodes |
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RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, i would like the thin to be same sized of single pixel (1/16th) |
| 20:30 |
RealBadAngel |
that would make them square |
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emptty |
Hello guys |
| 21:22 |
emptty |
I have a new bug report on ubuntu systems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minetest/+bug/1379551 |
| 21:22 |
emptty |
that's a crash, with the stacktrace and other information included in the report |
| 21:23 |
emptty |
since I am the debian packager, there is not much I can do about the bugs reported against ubuntu, but I thought you may be intersted |
| 21:26 |
sfan5 |
I think we got an issue for that on github |
| 21:29 |
sfan5 |
looks like it simply abort()'ed |
| 21:29 |
emptty |
Ah, I missed the first line of the report |
| 21:29 |
sfan5 |
without a log that bug report is probably not very helpful |
| 21:30 |
emptty |
That's a known bug, due to the fact that we have an outdated version of libcppjson in debian (and thus in ubuntu) |
| 21:30 |
emptty |
sorry for the noise, that bug is ours, not yours |
| 21:31 |
sfan5 |
it's better to ask |
| 21:31 |
emptty |
that's https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1147 on github |
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emptty |
btw while I'm here, do you guys plan to go for a release before chrismas maybe? |
| 21:35 |
emptty |
just to know |
| 21:36 |
sfan5 |
I don't know of any plans |
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hmmmm |
hmm |
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hmmmm |
readConfigFile() had a recursive mutex |
| 21:41 |
hmmmm |
i thought somebody just refactored settings.cpp and got rid of stuff like that |
| 21:41 |
hmmmm |
i think we should put some effort into making a christmas release |
| 21:54 |
emptty |
as a player, I'd appreciate a christmas release O:-) |
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