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ireallyhateirc |
luatic mentioned that I could work around entity rotation interpolation by hacking bones and attachments |
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ireallyhateirc |
I guess that would involve making an entity with no texture or mesh, just an armature and then controlling rotation by playing animation? |
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ireallyhateirc |
and of course attaching the actual entity to the bone that is rotated |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> ireallyhateirc: basically yes, except you don't even need animation, you can just use a bone override on the bone. bone overrides can be interpolated, but need not be. |
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ireallyhateirc |
what's wonderful |
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ireallyhateirc |
I see several issues open for rotation + interpolation so I guess the issue is known and on the dusty TODO list |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> #14599 probably best describes what you want. You might want to leave a short comment. |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/14599 -- Smooth Rotation with set_yaw for lua entities |
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ireallyhateirc |
will do |
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runxiyu |
Does ipv6_server make it ipv6-only? Or does it simply enabe ipv6 without affecting ipv4? |
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runxiyu |
bind_address is not set |
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sfan5 |
runxiyu: it makes it support both |
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runxiyu |
nice thx |
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iisu |
Hi, how can I make a wallmounted node without rotating the mesh? |
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Bombo |
i got an error in fireworks_reimagined: ServerError: AsyncErr: Lua: Runtime error from mod 'fireworks_reimagined' in callback luaentity_Step ... init.lua:273: bad argument #2 to 'random' (interval is empty) |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 -- Burned wood |
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Bombo |
how can that be, the args are hardcoded? https://github.com/DragonWrangler1/fireworks_reimagined/blob/main/init.lua#L273 |
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ireallyhateirc |
iisu, you need to write a node definition of a wallmounted node |
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ireallyhateirc |
unless that's not what you mean |
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ireallyhateirc |
in the node definition set this: paramtype2 = "wallmounted" |
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iisu |
I have paramtype2 = "facedir", and I call minetest.item_place_node(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing, minetest.dir_to_facedir(vector.subtract(pointed_thing.under, pointed_thing.above))). |
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iisu |
But I want the item to drop when the node it was placed on is mined. wallmounted has this behaviour but idk how to position the mesh correctly. |
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iisu |
When I change paramtype2 to "wallmounted" and call minetest.item_place_node(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing, minetest.dir_to_wallmounted(vector.subtract(pointed_thing.under, pointed_thing.above))), the mesh gets rotated when placed on wall. |
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iisu |
(drawtype = "mesh") |
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ireallyhateirc |
you're probably looking for core.add_item(pos, item) |
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ireallyhateirc |
iisu, you probably have to rotate the mesh in Blender or something |
| 12:44 |
ireallyhateirc |
I also encountered this problem |
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iisu |
Haven't thought of that. Thanks. |
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ireallyhateirc |
Also in the end you don't have to rotate the node. You can select axes while exporting the node in Blender |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Bombo: hardcoded and precisely the wrong way around. the "min" must come first. -5 > -8. it needs to be math.random(-8, -5) or -math.random(5, 8). |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> strictest would have caught this ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> https://github.com/appgurueu/strictest/blob/3086335123e34dd79c8c60eb9f799384bb873804/lua.lua#L104 |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i've sent the mod author a PR: https://github.com/DragonWrangler1/fireworks_reimagined/pull/16 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Add explanation to touchscreen item tooltip code (#15607) b50b619 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b50b619be7af04bb7ecb1b30b628532d88c1844b (2024-12-31T13:11:17Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Show active HW buffers in profiler d884a16 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d884a1624fbf20647fa98ef0bce755b4fb5a5e0e (2024-12-31T13:47:46Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Avoid some inefficiencies when handling ItemStack(Metadata) a2058f7 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a2058f7f3a2d2c95c6b6effdf161e326c8d2f35c (2024-12-31T13:47:46Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Replace data structure for HW buffer book-keeping 40afc84 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/40afc845972ad350a04230570eb65f02ebd789ae (2024-12-31T13:47:46Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Clean up Irrlicht shader API 1ea8763 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/1ea87632597877d673dce50a157ea3afd932a580 (2024-12-31T13:47:46Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] (5 newer commits not shown) |
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Blockhead256 |
did somebody say totally oversized textures? https://old.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/pjldfy/extra_cells_joke_walrus_texture_uses_twice_as/ |
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Blockhead256 |
ireallyhateirc: MTG mod soupers DEMAND ports of all useful mods to their modding game |
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Blockhead256 |
MTG is meant to be played from the Content tab as much or more than the Start Game and Join Game tabs |
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ireallyhateirc |
I left a really ugly review for MTG, mostly because it pissed me off. I first tried Minetest back in 2018 or so, played vanilla, got disappointed that it's boring and unfinished, then went to read the wiki where I found "we're never going to add mobs, this thing is perfect" |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> hehe |
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Blockhead256 |
I don't think anybody ever accused MTG of being perfect, but that nobody could agree which direction it should go (if any), so it had better stay put |
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ireallyhateirc |
I came back after 2-3 years and stayed because I discovered other games and Exile specifically |
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Blockhead256 |
A game that never changes is a perfect choice for modding if you ask me |
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ireallyhateirc |
but now that it's not the project's official scarecrow for new players I have no reason to be angry about it |
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Blockhead256 |
Mojang: Let me refactor enough to completely break all your mods every version. It's okay, Forge will do the legwork again anyway |
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ireallyhateirc |
so with minimal effort I can provide code examples for my API and something for mod soupers to enjoy |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i too remember my first MTG experience many years ago. i think my brother had found Minetest on the ubuntu software store and then we were playing MTG, and we were wondering when the mobs would show up. after they didn't show up for a while we realized that there would probably be no mobs, but eventually we found things like NSSM and got into modding. |
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Blockhead256 |
yes sadly that's how it used to go, unless someone luckily chose a good multiplayer server |
| 14:04 |
Blockhead256 |
my first session with MTG ended pretty quickly, I don't think I even got to mining |
| 14:04 |
Blockhead256 |
but one login to LinuxForks (followed by getting lost), left such an impression that I had to come back months later to "that server with the trains" |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i fondly remember LOTT (lord of the test) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> (singleplayer as well) |
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ireallyhateirc |
Blockhead256, as for modding I think MTG tried to port modding habits of proprietary games while not providing a playable gameplay which proprietary games usually provide |
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Blockhead256 |
rest in piece to the potential community members who have up after one go with MTG and maybe a bad server as well |
| 14:05 |
Blockhead256 |
s/have/gave |
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Blockhead256 |
yes unfortunately a lot of the mods for MTG were crap clones of mods for Minecraft |
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ireallyhateirc |
so while it's perfect from a modder's point of view, it's not so perfect from a player's point of view. Well unless you're the kind of player who enjoys Linux From Scratch |
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Blockhead256 |
like Technic is a poor IC2 clone, pipeworks is a bad version of buildcraft's pipes, and mesecons is poor man's redpower |
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Blockhead256 |
MTG proves the point that it's not enough to have a game that's great to mod, the base game has to be fun |
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Blockhead256 |
something lost on people who've been stuck in a loop of modding something like Minecraft or Skyrim for so long that they forget what base game is |
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ireallyhateirc |
and even if you make your perfect mod soup that works and is fine gameplay-wise then you end up with something that's not artistically consistent |
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Blockhead256 |
the value of a fully integrated experience can't be understated |
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Blockhead256 |
whether that's a good game for Luanti, a vendor-lock scenario like Apple, or something else |
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sfan5 |
can someone recommend a place on a server with many node/block changes going on |
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Blockhead256 |
there was "fm: Sky: Alone in the deep", that had some kind of landslide mechanics, not sure what it was |
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Blockhead256 |
but that's dropped off the list. |
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Blockhead256 |
Maybe the other "fm" servers have it though |
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ireallyhateirc |
sfan5, Land of Bugs or Exiled From Other Servers |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> fm is freeminer, so if you are testing luanti that's an extra variable |
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ireallyhateirc |
every 30s mapchunks with soil get rewritten |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> sfan5, actually, any mesecraft server, find a place with smoke |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> or, hmm, not sure if it still has smoke. |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> if it does, you can make smoke with any fire or oven, but to get lots of it find a place with lava |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> oh right, I guess Exile would win this contest |
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Bombo |
luatic: thx it works now ;) playing around with mesecons to build a fireworks ;) |
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sfan5 |
ireallyhateirc: this might be useful https://0x0.st/8s7a.txt |
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ireallyhateirc |
lol yeah probably |
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[git] grorp -> minetest/minetest: Remove normal map leftovers (#15609) f54d209 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f54d209bc8cb6c4ae8735090b2eb6f15af35ed36 (2024-12-31T18:28:57Z) |
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MTDiscord |
<prolller> still here: fm: Sky: Yggdrasil tree growing btw maybe oldest running server |
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MTDiscord |
<prolller> fm: World Of TNT use dirt spring at some high point, or lava/water spring, feel free to destroy anything, its for tests |
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MTDiscord |
<siliconsniffer> IIRC there was also a server called just "sky"? |
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MTDiscord |
<prolller> its one server, Sky; fm: Sky: * (depend on current spawn point) https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=7068 same map all time |
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<siliconsniffer> Thanks! Need to have a look, this was pretty much the first server I ever played on =) |
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