Time  Nick           Message
10:17 Oblomov        well, this is nice https://lwn.net/Articles/826134/ (lua 5.4)
13:55 sfan5          the close thing is interesting
13:56 specing        dumb if you ask me, close should be called automatically if a destructor is defined
13:58 specing        and why did they bother with adding const, they could've added <mut> instead and made everything const by default. PLus its shorter to write.
14:00 sfan5          they seem to love breaking changes but making every variable const by default does seem excessive
14:01 sfan5          the thing with destructors is if you want those you are automatically forced to implement copy and move semantics
14:01 sfan5          far from trivial
14:02 sfan5          this is the same underlying reason why you can "just" add C++'s RAII to C
14:02 sfan5          (plus name mangling)
14:02 sfan5          can't*
14:04 sfan5          what does work in C is __attribute__((cleanup(...))) and surprise it's conceptually just like <close>
14:06 specing        I don't see why copy/move semantics would need implementing. Lua objects function like a shared pointer already, and copying is explicit (table.deepcopy?)
14:08 sfan5          would you prohibit a destructor on userdata?
14:08 sfan5          wait nvm
14:09 sfan5          it looks like you're right and that's not needed at all
16:42 MTDiscord      <goodclover> Is it possible to change a player's nametag height? I can't find anything relevant in lua_api.md, beyond hiding it and doing a custom one via HUD text.
16:43 MTDiscord      <goodclover> It seems to be hard-coded to 2 nodes above the bottom of the player, no matter the player's eye_heigh or collisionbox.
17:40 MinetestBot    02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Settings: semi-automatic callback cleanup 13e3813cf https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e3813cf027c9fb6d086db087f13557f86eb4730a (152024-10-17T17:38:49Z)
17:40 MinetestBot    02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean up header includes related to settings.h 134975afb https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4975afb5ff375c5ce004615f98aeffce7c0455ff (152024-10-17T17:38:49Z)
17:40 MinetestBot    02[git] 04ALiwoto -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix getDimension throwing error if there is \r at end of line (#15299) 13f2ab887 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f2ab887644f627ced3d91f589f7617cc0d647c27 (152024-10-17T17:39:11Z)
17:45 Desour         @goodclover: pos.Y = m_prop.selectionbox.MaxEdge.Y + 0.3f; in GenericCAO::updateNametag()
17:46 MTDiscord      <goodclover> mmm I hadn't set selectionbox so was assuming it was being copied from collisionbox… but there's no reason something else might not have set it…
17:48 MTDiscord      <goodclover> Setting selectionbox to nil fixed it!  Thanks!
17:48 Desour         I guess when nametags are lua hud (#9270), pos will be configurable
17:48 ShadowBot      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9270 -- Treat built-in hotbar, nametags, minimap, crosshair like Lua HUD elements
17:48 Desour         np!
17:48 Desour         !next
17:48 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:53 ireallyhateirc gotta rename the bot to LuantiBot :P
19:12 SwissalpS      LMTB = LuantiMinetestBot
19:16 ireallyhateirc Linmt = Luanti is not minetest
19:29 sfan5          GNU/Luanti
19:31 mmuller        GNUanti.  Where did that name come from, anyway?
19:47 yezgromafic    ... or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Luanti
19:48 yezgromafic    the blog post says "Luanti” is a wordplay on the Finnish word luonti (“creation”) and the programming language Minetest Luanti employs for games and mods, Lua."
19:49 sfan5          unfortunately we will have to rename again once we switch to JavaScript next year
19:51 Krock          adding the Electron dependency was the best decision so far. This will finally support all image formats out of the box
19:51 Krock          and also includes model rendering via WebGL
19:52 yezgromafic    <sfan5> that is a joke right? the matter is too serious for me to just assume
19:52 SwissalpS      GLUanti :p
19:54 Krock          yezgromafic: and you're not taking me serious?
19:56 SwissalpS      there have been requests to have MT run in browsers. (not sure those asking had any idea about how MT works)
19:57 yezgromafic    Krock dont tell me that I should</3
19:57 celeron55      SwissalpS: there already is a fork/port that runs in the web browser. it could use some polishing and upstreaming, if you're so inclined
19:57 Krock          :3
20:14 SwissalpS      huh, so that wasn't a joke. I'm in no way interested in a browser version
20:19 celeron55      it doesn't use javascript or really anything special and is a very thin system overall: https://github.com/paradust7/minetest-wasm
20:19 celeron55      it's actually mind boggling that's possible with so little
20:25 SwissalpS      hmm, that github repo says 50% javascript, a third shell and 17% html
20:28 ireallyhateirc web browers are cringe anyway
20:30 celeron55      that repo isn't the only thing needed. it refers to other repos also which contain modified versions of minetest, irrlichtmt and some wrapper type code
20:33 ireallyhateirc Luanti as a service
22:39 cheapie        5950X arrived, can finally get 60 FPS with the default view range most of the time
22:39 cheapie        Also "make clean && time make -j32" came back a hair under 57 seconds, which is nice.
22:48 SwissalpS      wow, my build takes at least 20 minutes if not more :D
22:50 cheapie        What CPU is that on?
22:53 SwissalpS      Pentium® T4300  × 2
22:54 SwissalpS      hehe
22:54 SwissalpS      if I get over 15 fps, I'm amazed :p
22:56 ireallyhateirc wow a pentium
22:56 ireallyhateirc that's a living fossil there
22:57 cheapie        I have a 120MHz Pentium Classic and a 200MHz PMMX around here somewhere... never tried running Luanti on them though.
22:58 ireallyhateirc the name change gave me intrusive thoguhts
22:59 ireallyhateirc every time I say "Luanti" a weird feeling appears