Time Nick Message 01:08 Sokomine yes...i found that issue now 01:09 Sokomine what i'm still looking for are servers or games where it does make sense (apart from the single game shown in the screenshots) 01:09 Sokomine so far i found 1 (one) server that was aware of the change/setting 01:10 Sokomine even my local games - which are nothing special, just mtg + varying mods - are not aware 04:17 Guest8 Helo? 04:24 MTDiscord Ello 05:02 lissobone Howdy! 05:02 lissobone Partners... 05:24 Blockhead256 Hello everyone. I was not well pleased with 5.9.0-dev's changes to fog 05:24 Blockhead256 I am interested in your opinions. Please read a bit about the history of the change and vote in my forum poll 05:24 Blockhead256 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=30513 05:30 MTDiscord I think it's not foggy enough 05:31 Blockhead256 jordan4ibanez: You must really be wanting more content just like it after playing Wuzzy's Shadow Forest then :P 05:32 MTDiscord https://tenor.com/view/man-lamp-evening-fog-gif-1564959516917002854 05:32 MTDiscord Needs to be able to be spooky 05:32 Blockhead256 to be clear, I am not proposing you be able to do it in every game. But I don't like it being behind debug priv 05:41 Mantar disabling fog has balance effects on Exile, being able to turn it off is not an intentional part of the game 05:46 MTDiscord Sounds like there should be a mod to allow you to turn it on and off in your game 05:47 MTDiscord To finely craft your gaming experience within the game you are playing how the game feels you should play itself at the will of the creator 05:56 Mantar exile's all about man vs. the environment, being to trivially just no-sell the threat of getting lost in the fog is not intended. might as well turn off damage and run creative, which is fine if you're playing locally and want to do that 05:56 Mantar *being able to 06:01 Mantar players shouldn't be able to switch it off and get perfect vision any more than they should be able to switch on wireframe mode to find caves or whatever. IE, not unless the game designer intended it to be an option 09:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix curl compatibility issues with colorize_url (#14615) 1359bf1d8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/59bf1d8cd97a1643b88b44374885c319c79269f5 (152024-05-09T09:31:10Z) 09:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04licaon-kter -> 03minetest/minetest: Cleanup Removed Java 17 Options (#14626) 13121d22f https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/121d22f137330e6320c1cca8261e1e98c72501d5 (152024-05-09T09:31:22Z) 09:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add benchmarks for server::ActiveObjectMgr 13dd475d8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/dd475d8af40c946caba674b617d1464f6c70b86b (152024-05-09T09:31:35Z) 11:15 shaft I see my fork of ts_furniture is having a hard time getting approved. Should I change the name and convert all nodes already placed instead? 11:15 Sokomine jordan4ibanez: that "you should play itself at the will of the creator" - that will is violated here in this case. they aren't even asked 11:28 MTDiscord Then there is a problem 11:28 MTDiscord Lucky for me I haven't looked into the issue at all so it doesn't affect me. I'm playing 4D chess with not giving a poop 11:59 Sokomine the problem is mostly the default behaviour - which was changed 12:00 Sokomine it's not about forbidding games or mods to use such a feature (like forbidding turning off fog). but it really shouldn't be the unexpected new behaviour everywhere and for all 12:13 Blockhead256 It seems I need to I am not insisting anyone let their artistic vision be trampled upon. Exile shouldn't let you toggle the fog, clearly 12:14 Blockhead256 but I think Minetest Game players deserve to have a keybind to toggle fog as they always have 12:14 Blockhead256 therefore, it shouldn't require debug priv 12:14 Sokomine *heavily nodding* 17:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03minetest/minetest: Android CI: Additionally make an AAB for uploading to the Play Store … 13178591b https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/178591b6d55cb87b3f5bd8ea748ad9bea0d90622 (152024-05-09T17:15:50Z) 17:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03minetest/minetest: Close formspecs with a single tap outside (#14605) 13e0e1d08 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e0e1d0855d38701cfb8c4ff130e65db40b9a2d86 (152024-05-09T17:16:08Z)