Time Nick Message 06:21 cheapie Group operation works now: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-04-20%2001-14-26.webm 06:23 cheapie The dispatching algorithm is much fancier than the old movestone ones - these actually estimate (not particularly well, at the moment) and compare ETAs to determine which car can arrive soonest, instead of just assigning the call to some random idle car (if there is one) or picking something closest. 06:29 Mantar more elevator porn: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-04-20%2001-14-26.webm 06:29 Mantar oops, wrong channel lol 06:30 cheapie Now I'm curious what channel it was meant for :P 06:30 Mantar oh I'm crossposting to #Exile-dev, one of my team members is doing a modern city-based game as a side project 06:32 Mantar he's working on road generation right now, but buildings and elevators and stuff are gonna heppen at some point 06:32 cheapie Perhaps he might also like the old ones this mod is meant to largely replace: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/movestone-elevator.webm 06:34 Mantar that one's more terrifying, so it might fit better, lol 06:35 cheapie It's especially terrifying when you just randomly fall through on the way up. Real fun in survival mode :P 06:35 cheapie (vertical movestones are... not great) 06:39 Mantar the sounds the movestone elevators make do not inspire confidence! reminds me of some videos of dangerous old Soviet elevators from like the 30s 06:42 lissobone What about digtron elevators? 06:43 cheapie The movestone ones are a huge pain to install too - a 3 car group serving 9 floors (like each of the three groups in that video), with 2 hall risers, provided it's using that design, has 188 digilines devices (if I counted right) that all have to be wired and have their channels set. 06:44 cheapie lissobone: I've never poked at digtron, how advanced of an elevator have people made with that? 06:45 lissobone They might be so advanced that I have never seen a single one. I have only made them myself: they're manually controlled from the inside, and may also be set to go automatically in a given direction. 06:45 cheapie "manually controlled from the inside" as in "just has up/down buttons and you have to stop it where you want" or "can take car calls but that's it"? 06:46 lissobone Kind of like up/down buttons. It also features an automatic control module that takes an amount of cycles (basically, number of nodes to go) and optionally speed. 06:47 lissobone Sometimes, though, as with any moving nodes, players can fall through it. That's why there are ladder-like digtron structure modules that a player can climb through: they prevent one from falling down. 06:47 cheapie So no ability to handle hall calls, multiple calls at the same time, other modes, etc., I assume. 06:47 lissobone Just a caveman's elevator. 06:48 cheapie I suppose that's /something/ but it doesn't sound much more functional than the shacknet ones :P 06:48 lissobone I think it can be fixed. Using the digtron's API, the digtron can be ordered to answer floor calls. 06:49 cheapie At that point it starts to just sound to me like "the movestone one with extra steps" 06:49 lissobone I can even imagine such a mesecon-containing contraption: the automatic control module would have to "scratch" the elevator shaft wall in order for the hypothetical "call module" to connect to it neatly. 06:49 lissobone Some extra steps, some less steps. On the good side, it can dig the shaft for you. 06:50 cheapie This is the one I'm working on, for comparison: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-04-16%2021-29-59.webm 06:52 lissobone Gave me goosebumps... 06:53 lissobone I have always liked elevators, especially empty ones. Who doesn't, though? 06:55 Mantar they are very cool 07:01 greeter i avoid elevators, but that's for health reasons 07:11 cheapie Someone else also made this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HYLsLT56fQ 07:11 cheapie I made a clone of it, but using a Luacontroller and some glue to get that to talk to techage instead of a Beduino: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/lc-techage-elevator-small.webm 07:15 cheapie The UI on that one was inspired by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kveN2GUO6hU&t=195 07:26 cheapie One more for tonight, the ridiculous closed-loop thing I did (more of a tech demo than a useful device) a while back: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/mtservo.webm 07:39 big-MAC lissobone make a mod that explains what jesus christ is 07:39 lissobone Ok. 07:39 big-MAC jesus christ is.... 07:43 lissobone Love. 07:43 lissobone Okay, I have finally decided to upgrade my 'goodtorch' mod. It has been a horrible mess of wiring until I made my projectile library. 07:44 lissobone It has already shrunk to half its previous size. 07:56 big-MAC lissobone now u need to read the talmud of jmmanuel 07:56 big-MAC see if u still say that 08:03 big-MAC https://files.catbox.moe/ns34ey.pdf 08:30 Mantar cool hoax bro 08:58 big-MAC i know 09:00 Krock cheapie: wow that elevator looks amazing 10:32 lissobone I need to discuss something important. 10:32 lissobone Actually, no... let's not... 11:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Desour -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix inconsistent rounding in VoxelLineIterator::VoxelLineIterator (#1… 135a07f5a https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/5a07f5a652717b72a746d27d48e027600a6fce7c (152024-04-20T11:03:34Z) 11:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Refactor profiler and related classes 1372eeb9f https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/72eeb9fecbbec7c6136508876d4ff346b12f0def (152024-04-20T11:03:42Z) 11:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Print profiler at end of session 134027e08 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4027e08cc876efed829cd41fe649e15ff0e64052 (152024-04-20T11:03:42Z) 11:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimize MapNode::serializeBulk 132af5191 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2af5191070816581ad0784f1cbe1c2a15da1adb7 (152024-04-20T11:03:42Z) 11:05 MinetestBot 02[git] (2 newer commits not shown) 12:11 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: mod_translation_updater.py: fix @n being incorrectly rejected 13b7887a3 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b7887a339db31931d431bb84c656f01dfa82c458 (152024-04-20T12:10:04Z) 12:52 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix profiler assertion failures 133bd5169 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3bd5169aee16f73723e5cee3b624abbb83f6531e (152024-04-20T12:32:35Z) 14:18 cheapie Krock: Which one, the entity-based one? That's the idea :D 15:18 cheapie The dispatching algorithm is working well enough now to demonstrate, even if the ETA calculations aren't the most accurate: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2024-04-20%2010-10-26.webm 16:02 MinetestBot 02[git] 04JosiahWI -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove include from particles.h 13d2a089f https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d2a089ffd96a4efd5004de54624fceca43985731 (152024-04-20T16:01:25Z) 18:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: HUD: Text element color support (#14558) 13c8a4140 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c8a41409d91e81282acf37cab0dcf7192145a4db (152024-04-20T18:36:44Z) 18:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04JosiahWI -> 03minetest/minetest: Do not link /latomic on MSVC (#14564) 13de1d8ec https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/de1d8ec0706321287ad747b1d6ffa91377460bd6 (152024-04-20T18:37:46Z) 19:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Save a copy during zlib decompression 1340a5e16 https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/commit/40a5e16e21ba9a0663fc93919291c1bf0e5c2e3a (152024-04-20T19:38:05Z) 19:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Run CI test also with ASan 13dd1904a https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/commit/dd1904a667cb2550652e41f402cebe3fd6e2d84d (152024-04-20T19:38:15Z) 19:59 imi can an admin log in as user without knowing this specific user's password? 20:02 MTDiscord An admin can always do /setpassword, so yes. But the user will notice that. 20:22 cheapie I wonder how many mods are using the async environment stuff. If it does what I think it does, it's pretty nice.