Time Nick Message 01:16 jfcaron Tried Minetest + Mineclone2 for the first time today 01:16 jfcaron I have no prior experience with Minecraft, but I seem to be missing something. 01:16 jfcaron I turned off damage because the monsters were impossible to beat or avoid 01:17 jfcaron And I crafted everything until stone/wood and a clay flowerpot but I can't seem to find any iron or anything higher-level. 01:17 jfcaron Is this what regular Minecraft is like too? 01:46 Dacmot jfcaron: no. You should be able to find all kinds of materials when digging. Mostly coal on the surface, and others lower down. The deeper you go, the better the materials, generally. 04:34 jfcaron Thanks Dacmot 05:06 jfcaron Went down to the lava, found a decent amount of iron 05:06 jfcaron and some copper 05:06 jfcaron and managed to escape after all my stone pickaxes broke Q_Q 05:07 jfcaron I stupidly didn't bring any wood 05:30 lissobone If you like getting stuck in dark caves with no light, you might consider trying NodeCore later. 05:31 lissobone I personally believe that MineClone is way too hardcore for me. Perhaps it's due to the fact that I am used to mobs_monster's (a mod for MTG) apparent calmness and the fact that I usually live in the forest, but the hordes of monsters are just unbearable. 05:32 lissobone I even played it with friends. They, too, believe in its hardcoreness. 05:32 jfcaron Yeah I turned off damage 05:32 jfcaron there are tons of monsters, not sure why the density is so high 05:33 lissobone Maybe the spawn density/frequency can be configured via some setting. Or, if there is none, you can always modify a single digit in the source code (you are free to). 05:33 lissobone I will check. 05:35 jfcaron How do I discard an item...this rotten meat always comes back into my inventory lol. 05:36 lissobone oh sorry i exited my Emacs (where i also chat) and searched for where i can look at the source code 05:36 lissobone what a foolish raghead i am 05:37 lissobone okay, i am in ~/.minetest/games/mineclone2/mods/ENTITIES/mcl_mobs/init.lua, let's search 05:38 lissobone 'mob_cap' is what regulates the top limit of mob number, and it's conveniently controlled by a bunch of settings! 05:39 lissobone you can go to minetest settings and search for 'mob_cap' 05:48 jfcaron neat 06:04 Mantar standard protocol for minecraft and clones is to build a shelter ASAP and only go out in daytime, nights are too dangerous 06:04 Mantar most of the MC mobs burn up in daylight, too 06:11 jfcaron Is there an automap 06:11 Mantar depends on the game, Mineclone has one you craft from... paper and coal? I forget 06:12 Mantar once you have one you can press V (or whatever you've bound the map key to) to display it 06:13 jfcaron Oh there is a minimap with V without any special item 06:13 jfcaron grr how do I throw something away 06:13 jfcaron it just pops back into my inventory 06:16 Mantar huh, is there not a trash can on the formspec anywhere? 06:17 Mantar could always dig a hole and drop it in there, the spinny item will expire eventually :D 06:18 Mantar I've done that on games that don't provide a trash slot 06:20 jfcaron Yeah I threw stuff off a mountain so it would fall away from me 06:20 jfcaron I can't seem to find the trash in Minetest+MineClone2 06:21 Mantar yeah I just looked, there isn't one. kinda rude IMO 06:21 Mantar but in my world I built a pit with an eternal flame in it so it burns up objects that land in it :) 06:22 jfcaron lol I can make a golden pickaxe 06:22 jfcaron doesn't seem worth it 06:22 Mantar yeah Minecraft is silly 06:23 jfcaron I guess it wants me to make stuff with redstone now? 06:23 jfcaron Copper doesn't seem useful 06:28 Mantar it's a stepping stone to iron, really 06:28 Mantar redstone is used for machinery and such 06:29 Mantar you'll want to explore the overworld for special sites, and later build (or repair an existing) a portal to the nether 06:31 jfcaron What should I look for? 06:32 Mantar villages can be useful to trade for stuff, pyramids have nice loot, and there are other sites to discover 06:35 jfcaron Found a couple igloo things 06:40 jfcaron Mined out a floating island thing but there was nothing 06:40 jfcaron I'll try a bigger one 06:40 lissobone Floating island? Are you on mapgen v7? 06:41 jfcaron Yeah that was the entry already there when I started 06:41 jfcaron I figured that was the recommended default 06:41 lissobone I like 'carpathian', honestly. Has very tall mountains. 06:41 jfcaron I know too many Romanians to pick that one. 06:42 Mantar v7 is pretty good if you like fantastic landscapes 06:42 lissobone jfcaron: and probably western Ukrainians too 06:42 Mantar Carpathian is very nice, too, we support that one on Exile in addition to valleys 06:47 jfcaron I made it to the top of the flying chicken-shaped island 06:48 jfcaron It's so high the ground doesn't render 06:48 lissobone [Press 'R' for Unlimited Render Distance!] 06:49 Mantar I don't think that's bound by default anymore, you have to set it yourself 06:49 lissobone I thought that too. 06:49 Mantar too many people tanking their system by pressing it by accident. now it's "range select" 06:50 lissobone I have just been testing minetest with various compilation options. I was in devtest and discovered that this is so. 06:50 lissobone There is a reason for my experiments. Minetest's controls for some reasons fail when my layout is cyrillic (Russian), but chat keyboard input works just fine (just not opening the chat itself since it requires one to press T). 06:51 Mantar floating islands are mapgen things, I don't think Mineclone puts anything special on them. other mapgens don't have floating islands 06:51 jfcaron ah 06:51 jfcaron Ok snap it's almost midnight 06:51 jfcaron Need to shower & go to bed 06:52 Mantar 'night 06:53 lissobone Sorry, my Emacs lagged for some reason. I tried to disable 'ibus' to see if that would change anything and it messed with my window. 14:08 MiniontobyPI Hey guys, I have been playing around with the `minetest-server --terminal` feature. I am trying to run minetest-server in the background and also allowing to pipe commands in (and out...). But whatever I try, it just doesn't work and/or messes up the terminal in which you run the command 14:09 MiniontobyPI (btw stdin is mkfifo pipe file: `minetest-server --terminal < mypipefile`) 14:13 MiniontobyPI s/minetest-server/minetestserver/ 14:16 MiniontobyPI mostly going wrong because of the "Begin log output over terminal (no stdout/stderr backlog during that)" 14:16 MiniontobyPI And it seems like the game doesn't continue on whilst in --terminal mode or 14:16 MiniontobyPI *or so 15:07 sfan5 it's not possible to use the ncurses console like that 15:07 sfan5 it requires a terminal 18:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03minetest/minetest: Add SDL2 Java code 13fca60e2 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/fca60e2a415514aa9e9cae9c66775acddf2f496a (152024-04-08T18:15:37Z) 18:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03minetest/minetest: Migrate the Android port to SDL2 1307fdf71 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/07fdf7158d055dfda340cbdd8707193354869be3 (152024-04-08T18:15:37Z) 18:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04grorp -> 03minetest/minetest: Improve SDL GL fallback code 13cc1bfc6 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cc1bfc6d03571c8944406615fff5ec0786feaec5 (152024-04-08T18:15:37Z)