Time Nick Message 01:41 kyle56 !tell independent56 when it comes to that drama, i suggest you git over it and let it be and i mean that in the nicest way possible. however if you really wanna know, basically someone made an adult only server. not the first adult only server. but maybe the first with adult content. it was DOS attacked a few times by prominent minetest players and server operators to bring attention to it and it was "temporarily" removed while 01:41 MinetestBot kyle56: I'll pass that on when independent56 is around 01:41 kyle56 they look into adding rules or a adult-only tagging system. The server is still up btw. and still being worked on. 01:41 kyle56 thanks matey. thanks mate. 01:42 MTDiscord DOSd by like 2 people total 01:42 kyle56 well twice by the same person 01:48 kyle56 dont know if anyone saw it, but some server-side trickery by the owner was done to help encourage links to the site for that server to be removed from the forum >:) 01:56 kyle56 well i guess i should be honest. he is me. i am the server owner. on Jul 7 2023, long after i asked my forum account and threads to be deleted, i saw in my httpd logs that somewhere there was a minetest forum page linking to my site. it was the referer. so i decided to have some fun with that. 02:00 kyle56 anyway just came here to DM someone in the irc and saw that someone was still talking about that server. thought that was funny. 02:01 MTDiscord It's a shame that there are servers out there, like that one, that are still effectively hidden even from consenting adult users, since we just don't have the infrastructure to handle them yet. 02:02 MTDiscord https://tenor.com/view/gasp-in-spanish-spanish-gasp-gif-13289635 02:17 kyle56 yeah it does suck :/ oh well. i guess i just have to build a community some other way. I'm sure i can find people who share my interest. I think if anything, me putting my server in the list was kind of an experiment. I wanted to see who it would attract. Thankfully i did get a few like-minded people joining but since most people were babies on their mum's ipad or non-english speaking people, i dont even want my server in the 02:17 kyle56 list anymore. nothing against those types of people but they are not really the target audience for an English adult-only RP server. 02:18 MTDiscord It's not easy to screen users you get from the wild, but adults can generally follow instructions, so you can put them to a test. 02:18 MTDiscord I find that requiring people to ACTUALLY read the rules gets rid of the bottom like 95%. 02:18 MTDiscord Basically one of the "rules" of my server is the chatcommand you need to enter to get interact privs 02:19 MTDiscord people keep saying "I read the rules, can I get interact please" but I KNOW they haven't read the rules because they wouldn't have to ask if they did. 02:19 MTDiscord Also, I mitigated other players "cheating" for them by making the code unique for each player 😆 02:20 kyle56 thats true. i used to hate that idea since i saw a minecraft server that went way overboard with the idea. but a simple "type /verfiy XXXXX" thing hidden in the rules is effective enough. 02:21 MTDiscord How overboard you feel the need to go depends on how annoying you find the users who wander in 😄 02:21 MTDiscord you can also make "shout" not a default priv and then they can't even chat, if that's a problem. 02:21 MTDiscord But yeah, even simple measures are highly effective. 02:23 kyle56 ive come to actually like the idea of a simple test being used to keep unworthy people out. for example, on my site, my email is public but presented in a way that makes bot scraping more difficult but doesnt require some stupid JS browser challenge or captcha to reviel it. 02:23 MTDiscord My rules aren't just "none of this in the chat", but stuff like "anything you build here you license CC0", and "here are your privacy rights" and "here are your rights to a copy of the world", stuff that's actually pretty important for players to know... 02:24 MTDiscord A lot of players are like "nah, I don't need the rules, I'll just figure them out by getting banned" 02:27 kyle56 ooh i like those. those are pretty important. tho i am not that good at writing rules lol. on my secondary server, i do have a test in the form of 2 doors. one with signs that say 'dont go in here' and has a one way door and one that says 'go this way' if they go the wrong way, they get trapped. most players get trapped. 02:29 MTDiscord Heh, well, that does kind of play on player's curiosity. Even as adults we're used to the idea that those kind of instructions are misleading. Very Stanley Parable. 02:30 kyle56 true lol. tho i guess anyone who knows better knows they can use /killme to go back to spawn. 02:30 MTDiscord I'm on a Discord for one MC mod and their first rule is something like "if you want to get privileges to talk in here, say 'my favorite color is plaid' in the introductions channel" (they rotate the passphrase periodically) and even as the very first rule it still screens out like 80%. 02:35 MTDiscord I want to stab all of those people 02:35 MTDiscord it makes my life hell 02:35 kyle56 actually you comparing my test to The Stanley Parable is perfect. i didnt even think about that. i probably should make a different test. er.... well i would if i cared about that server. 02:35 MTDiscord Haha, no real need, you just need a sign that says "warning: do not stick blowtorch up your nose and ignite" and let darwin take care of the rest 😄 02:36 MTDiscord :) 02:36 MTDiscord gonna add that to VE-Classic (Formerly 09:47 MinetestBot independent56: Aug-19 01:41 UTC when it comes to that drama, i suggest you git over it and let it be and i mean that in the nicest way possible. however if you really wanna know, basically someone made an adult only server. not the first adult only server. but maybe the first with adult content. it was DOS attacked a few times by prominent minetest players and server operators to bring attention to it and it was "temporarily" r 09:49 independent56 !tell kyle56 I already have gotten over it; the only times i remember bringing it up recently is first seeking closure on the drama in IRC, and the second time only marginally mentioining it when telling a forum user not to use screenshots of the hotbar in a public SFW thread. 09:49 MinetestBot independent56: yeah, yeah 09:49 independent56 WHY ISN'T IT TELLING ME IT'LL PASS IT ON? 09:49 independent56 Ugh, computers are too cursed for me 09:52 independent56 Someone who hosts the adult-only servers should make a server listing accoridng to the installation instructions: https://github.com/minetest/serverlist 12:56 MTDiscord There just aren't enough adult oriented servers yet for a second server list to coalesce around it yet. Each owner would run their own, or just not bother, and we'd have a bunch of fragmentation. 12:57 MTDiscord Maybe if there's ever a critical mass then someone would make one, and if they could get the SFW list proxied and merged in, there would be one central list again that has all the servers. 12:58 MTDiscord But then I bet somebody would protest at its mere existence. It's like there are people who think their generation should be the last one... 13:16 independent56 I'm shocked because i made my first formspec and it's not that bad! https://i.imgur.com/o353aVt.png 13:16 independent56 I'm really suprised i even figured out the co-ordinate system in the first place 14:46 independent56 What function exactly does mesecons use to run Lua from inside the game? 14:52 MTDiscord <.niklp> Lua controllers have their own sandbox implementation 14:53 independent56 Do they provide an API for me to run lua from? 14:53 independent56 Becuase that'd be really helpful 15:01 independent56 Welp, that's another mod idea: Ingame lua API 15:03 MTDiscord oh, like sandboxed scripting? That might pair nicely with arena_lib for user-made minigames. Hmm... 15:03 MTDiscord I wonder if there could be an arena_lib extention to luacontrollers or something 16:48 MTDiscord oh, i can chat here now i guess, so im wishing a good day to whoever sees this message 17:02 m33 Hi guys, I'm giving a try to minetest, any advices on how to create a world (solo) with many mountains ? I mostly get flat lands, sands and sea... 17:47 calcul0n_ m33, maybe try the valleys mapgen 17:48 calcul0n_ also if you're using v7 then walk away, it has huge mountains too 22:30 MinetestBot kyle56: Aug-19 09:49 UTC I already have gotten over it; the only times i remember bringing it up recently is first seeking closure on the drama in IRC, and the second time only marginally mentioining it when telling a forum user not to use screenshots of the hotbar in a public SFW thread. 22:34 kyle56 !tell independent56 OMG lol. didnt know someone had posted a screenshot of that server there. thats kinda funny but at the same time i kinda wish he didnt do that. i guess i should use a sqlite viewer on my backups for that day to see just what was in that toolbar that needed to be cencored LMAO. 22:34 MinetestBot kyle56: I'll pass that on when independent56 is around 22:52 kyle56 oh and someone archived it. lol of course. gotta preserve whatever you can use to stir up drama. ya know what tho since he posted nsfw stuff to the forum, maybe he should just be banned. 22:54 kyle56 then again, if it were up to me, many more players would also be banned and moderation would be more strict. 22:54 kyle56 well i mean users not players since its a forum 23:06 kyle56 that would include one user who has a special rank. not gonna say who. but i think they should be banned. at least if the community is to be more friendly and welcoming. there is a balance that needs to be maintained. you want a community to be inclusive but to TOO inclusive. because if you are inclusive to scumbags then they make the community more toxic and less inclusive.