Time Nick Message 11:21 Ant2006 Dose anyone know why MineClone2 is not in MineTest? 11:23 calcul0n_ what do you mean? it is in contentdb 11:28 Ant2006 it is on the website but not in the game see https://0x0.st/Hb4B.png 11:28 MTDiscord you need to spell it correctly 11:37 Ant2006 true but even when it's spelt correctly the main game is not there. 11:39 MTDiscord ah right, your minetest is too old 11:39 MTDiscord minetest 5.7.0 is the latest, mineclone2 requires 5.5+ 11:40 Ant2006 thats why I couldnt install it form the website, stupid behind repos. thanks 11:41 Ant2006 minetest should have it's own repop 11:41 Ant2006 repo* 11:41 MTDiscord have you tried flatpak 11:44 Ant2006 I'm good 11:44 Ant2006 ill get a deb 11:45 MTDiscord trying a distro that doesn't have obsolete official repositories is a good idea too 11:46 MTDiscord there are minetest-devs ppas you can add too 11:47 Ant2006 just realised 11:47 Ant2006 I might try that 11:51 Ant2006 it works now thanks mate 13:01 Helenah For soome reason with a stable release, I can't get it to suppor OGLES. https://termbin.com/ykf6v 13:01 Helenah *support 13:03 MTDiscord pretty sure the compile option is ENABLE_GLES rather than ENABLE_GLES2 13:04 Helenah Oh... 13:14 Ant2006 Well I have another problem https://0x0.st/Hb4l.mkv I can't get minetest and minetest-server at the sametime. 13:16 MTDiscord you can run a dedicated server using a client binary with minetest --server 13:16 Ant2006 oh 13:17 MTDiscord minetestserver is only useful for headless environments where you don't want a dependency on Xorg and such 13:17 Ant2006 ok that makes sence 13:17 Ant2006 sense 13:17 Ant2006 thanks 13:25 Ant2006 it's working now but it's not like my mates can join 0.0.0.0:30000 do I gotta use portforwding or somthing to make it work 13:26 Helenah That's correct, 0.0.0.0 basically means all. So you're binding to all addresses that your computer has assigned to it. 13:27 Ant2006 so it's like lan just for my house internet 13:28 MTDiscord you don't need to port forward if your friends are on the same local network 13:28 Ant2006 they are at there house 13:30 Ant2006 I was folowing this video https://youtu.be/Xxt-5YXM4HI 13:32 Ant2006 wait I don't have vps 13:34 Ant2006 Is there a way 0.0.0.0 can be my public ip that I can give to my friends? 13:35 MTDiscord 0.0.0.0 simply means it'll listen for all connections 13:35 Ant2006 0.0.0.0 can be good at school thow 13:36 Ant2006 but my mates arnt on the same wifi as me when I'm at home 13:36 MTDiscord you'll need to port forward, and give your friends your public IP address (just google "what's my ip" and you should see it) 13:37 Ant2006 I see your ip you gotta registor your name on libre chat 13:38 ROllerozxa you sure about that? 13:38 Ant2006 yes 13:38 Ant2006 or you use vpn 13:39 ROllerozxa "[ROllerozxa] (~ROllerozx@voxelmanip.se): ROllerozxa" 13:39 Ant2006 optus is dumb my setings are at https://192.168.0.1/2.0/gui/#/login/ and I get another loging. what I'm I ment to type there I should call them up tomorow and ask 13:40 Ant2006 it's thats not registerd 13:41 MTDiscord pretty sure it's registered, just not cloaked. it's the minetest discord<->IRC bridge, its hostname is the IP address of the server it's running on 13:41 MTDiscord Oh no, you have my ip 13:41 Ant2006 it's fine proberly 13:42 ROllerozxa well I see you haven't cloaked yourself either... o.o 13:42 Ant2006 I thoght I had an acount 13:42 Ant2006 whops 13:42 Ant2006 whats the worst that can happen anyway 13:42 Ant2006 ? 13:42 ROllerozxa well, someone figuring out your nationality I guess 13:43 ROllerozxa anyways cloaks aren't automatic on libera chat, you'll need to join #libera-cloak and say "!cloakme" to get cloaked 13:44 Ant2006 am I good now? 13:44 ROllerozxa yeah now you're cloaked 13:44 ROllerozxa anyways re: router login, usually there's a default username and password combo 13:45 Ant2006 is it admin 13:45 ROllerozxa perhaps, you'd have to try 13:45 ROllerozxa either that or it's written somewhere on the router 13:45 Ant2006 hmm that makes sence 13:45 MTDiscord Google router model number, find instruction manual for it, see if default creds are in there. 13:46 MTDiscord If the default doesn't work then uh oh gotta ask your parents or whatever. Or if it's really yours and you just forgot the password, might have to factory reset it. 13:47 Ant2006 my parents don't cear 13:48 Ant2006 mtdiscord u in usa I looked up your ip 13:49 MTDiscord how dare you accuse me of being american 13:49 mrkubax10 lol 13:49 Ant2006 whats wrong with being an american? 13:49 Ant2006 funny sentence thow 13:53 Ant2006 so your on a vpn? 13:53 MTDiscord I don't even have to know it's IP and I can already tell that it's location is the internet. 13:53 mrkubax10 MTDiscord is a bridge... 13:53 Ant2006 he is on discord? 13:54 mrkubax10 who 13:54 MTDiscord Everyone that's taking through MTDiscord is in discord. Hence the name. 13:54 Ant2006 oh there is a discord 13:54 mrkubax10 XD 13:54 Ant2006 I didn't know 13:54 ROllerozxa I'm both on discord and on IRC. this is my IRC account 13:54 Ant2006 till now 13:54 mrkubax10 I suggest reading 13:54 ROllerozxa good advice 13:55 mrkubax10 it can help sometimes 13:55 Ant2006 you can just open more then one irc client if you want dubble people 13:55 Ant2006 duble 13:55 MTDiscord God no, single people is bad enough. 13:56 Ant20061 hello 13:56 Ant20061 its me 13:56 Ant2006 I 13:57 ROllerozxa ...brilliant magic trick... 13:57 wiojfowjiow im the problem its me 13:57 wiojfowjiow i stand derectly at the sun but 13:57 Ant2006 never in the merror 13:57 mrkubax10 Thunderbird, very cool 13:57 Ant20061 it must be exosting allways looking for the antiherow 13:57 wiojfowjiow idk the lerics 13:58 wiojfowjiow ive also used seamonkey 13:58 wiojfowjiow life tip seting up seamonkey for email is much easerer if you just do it all in thunderbird then import it into seamonkey 14:00 Ant2006 I'm gonna see discord and matrix and see how well the brige works 14:00 ROllerozxa https://www.minetest.net/get-involved/ 14:02 Ant2006 so witch cannel on discord is a brige to irc 14:02 Ant2006 ? 14:03 Ant2006 https://youtu.be/I7HahVwYpwo?t=167 14:03 ROllerozxa the entire "IRC" category. you might not have access to it until you get the newbie rank in the discord 14:03 Ant2006 k 14:04 Ant2006 is there a matrix brige 14:04 ROllerozxa there's a matrix<->IRC bridge 14:04 Ant2006 also I think you should just begin with access to the irc channles 14:05 Ant2006 so a irc discord matrix, madness thats how I will make a server if I ever need one 14:05 MTDiscord Note that if you spam IRC via discord you may lose your IRC bridge privileges or get muted. 14:05 Ant2006 my name is Ant2006 dose that show up correctly on your screen? 14:06 Ant2006 idk anny warr1024 14:07 MTDiscord IIRC there was a technical reason why discord users couldn't be given access to IRC immediately before earning their first rank, but it cuts down on spam and keeps the bridge safer, so it's just as well. Most of the spam that happens in IRC happens on the IRC side of the bridge. 14:08 MTDiscord If you're already using IRC via IRC then there's no point in using it via discord. 14:09 Ant2006 true 14:09 Ant2006 why do you think matrix is connecterd to irc and not discord, wouldint it be better if it was connecterd to discord 14:10 Ant2006 my name is not Warr1024 it's Ant2006, dose it show up wrong on discord? 14:11 Ant2006 no wait your discord name is Warr1024 man I'm slow 14:12 MTDiscord Hah, 's okay, take all the time you need 😅 14:14 Ant2006 I thorght that because when people metion other people on irc it looks the same 14:15 Ant2006 can you send me a photo of the brige I wanna see it, use 0x0.st 14:16 MTDiscord Can't photograph the bridge, it's just software and has no physical existence for light to bounce off of. 14:17 Ant2006 no what dose it look like on your screen 14:17 Ant2006 lol 14:17 Ant2006 I love how pasific you were 14:18 Ant2006 about the light and whatnot 14:18 MTDiscord Doesn't look like anything. We can't see the bridge, we see through it. That's kind of the point. We just see messages. 14:18 MTDiscord https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1114558645351501904/image.png 14:18 MTDiscord (monospace font is not standard discord, that's just how I have it) 14:18 Ant2006 I'm a bot 14:18 MTDiscord I've never been pacific. I used to be more atlantic but now I'm mostly neither. 14:19 ROllerozxa beep boop 14:19 Ant2006 I made a discord bot 14:19 Ant2006 before 14:20 Ant2006 hey discord users have you used matrix 14:20 Anthony[m] wow this is a brige 14:20 MTDiscord Yes 14:20 Anthony[m] this is me on matrix 14:20 Anthony[m] wow 14:20 Anthony[m] this is so cool 14:20 MTDiscord A lot of those of us who actually talk are on all of them. 14:21 MTDiscord Matrix is budget broken discord tbh 14:21 Anthony[m] i knew brigers existerd but seeing them is better 14:21 ROllerozxa "hey discord users have you used matrix" yes, I'm @rollerozxa:matrix.org on matrix 14:21 MTDiscord I used the matrix portal room for a while but the IRC integration was so jank that I gave up on it 14:21 MTDiscord Yeah, the public/default integration sucks 14:22 Ant2006 so now you use discord 14:22 Anthony[m] MTDiscord: its decetilised so i like it more 14:22 MTDiscord Much better off running your own bridge 14:22 AmandaROllerozxa test 14:22 Ant2006 I saw this test in irc 14:22 MTDiscord Now I just use discord for most things (since most of the people and activity is there) and I use thelounge for IRC for the few things that are exclusive there. 14:22 Ant2006 and you can see it in discord , I can't 14:23 AmandaROllerozxa wow, the latency here on the matrix bridge is awful 14:23 Ant2006 it took a sec to type to be fear 14:23 Anthony[m] do it again ill make a recording,, ill tell you when 14:24 MTDiscord If you have to run your own bridge to access IRC from matrix then that kind of mostly defeats the propose. Might as well just run thelounge and bridge directly from yourself to IRC. 14:24 AmandaROllerozxa I wonder if there's something about matrix in itself that makes it laggy 14:24 AmandaROllerozxa I've set up a matrix<->discord bridge for the principia community and the latency has been just as bad 14:24 * Anthony[m] uploaded a video: (3429KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/btVhZtGmByAWSvuCeutDpfxP/2023-06-04%2000-23-52.mkv > 14:25 Anthony[m] AmandaROllerozxa: not sure 14:25 Ant2006 why dose it download, why can't I whatch it on the website 14:25 MTDiscord Matrix itself is IIRC more complex than IRC. It's not like a channel where messages are passed so much as like a cryptographically signed repo that keeps getting commits added to it. 14:26 Anthony[m] AmandaROllerozxa: did you see the clip 14:27 AmandaROllerozxa .mkv moment 14:27 Anthony[m] yes its a mkv and/? 14:28 AmandaROllerozxa it doesn't want to preview, I had to download it to watch it 14:28 * Anthony[m] uploaded a video: (3462KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/aSPmddpebeHsUjzthJqdcJuq/2023-06-04%2000-23-52.mp4 > 14:28 Anthony[m] thats what i was thinking 14:28 AmandaROllerozxa anyways yeah for some reason it's like the bridge has higher latency from a "cold boot" rather than when constantly chatting 14:28 AmandaROllerozxa (it's the same thing with the discord<->matrix bridge, actually) 14:29 Anthony[m] its better then real mail 14:29 Anthony[m] :) 14:29 Ant2006 whats real mail like a week 14:29 Ant2006 of deleay 14:29 ROllerozxa but ngl, the matrix bridge is not gonna beat using a bouncer on IRC... 14:29 Anthony[m] wow that was a 2 sec delay 14:30 Anthony[m] Anthony[m]: 2 sec about my message mabey one 14:31 Anthony[m] irc dosint suport deletignn so if i delete it will stay on irc and proberly here https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2021-04-11 14:31 Ant2006 worng date 14:31 Ant2006 https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2023-06-03 14:33 ROllerozxa it's still possible to delete messages in IRC, you just need to be in the physical presence of all members online, and have a $5 wrench... 😏 14:33 MTDiscord Between mkv and mp4 there's only one format that can consistently be streamed, allowing playback without having downloaded the end of the file, and that's mkv, so naturally every platform that embeds videos only properly supports one format, and of course, that's mp4. 14:33 potatoxel[m] well u cannot delete messages in any chat app 14:33 potatoxel[m] ;o 14:33 potatoxel[m] u dont know if the other persons app honored ur request 14:34 potatoxel[m] sucha tomato 14:34 potatoxel[m] u always need a wrench 14:34 ROllerozxa Warr1024: yeah it's a bit unfortunate. OBS records video in .mkv by default and I'm sure it's a great format, but it also doesn't get previewed... 14:34 MTDiscord I can delete messages on IRC, the deletion is just invisible to other people. 14:34 potatoxel[m] tomatoful 14:34 potatoxel[m] i afk 14:35 Ant2006 thats dumb about the mp4/mkv message just incase you didnt relise because irc dosnt suport hilihghting messagers that well 14:35 Ant2006 so I had to say what message I was talking about 14:36 MTDiscord IRC doesn't really itself support much, but your client has the option to add support for a lot of things, and there are already conventions it should follow for that. 14:37 Ant2006 but then it looks jank in old clients 14:37 Ant2006 amagin if I send a message andd it was a reply to a message and it was this: 14:37 Ant2006 true:" but then it looks jank in old clients" 14:37 Ant2006 so I'm saying true about but then it looks jank in old clients 14:38 Ant2006 that looks jank and not many people will have a client that makes that look good 14:40 MTDiscord Right, IRC doesn't natively do "reply to" or "threads" or anything. You just have to make it clear what you're talking about yourself. Matrix has a thing for this, and it's usually okay, but it's got its own jank. 14:41 Ant2006 yep 14:41 Ant2006 I gotta sleep 14:41 Ant2006 good night 14:45 Anthony[m] before i go whats jank about matixers message hilighting 14:45 Anthony[m] * message hilighting? 14:49 Anthony[m] wait i just relised for the last hour we have been off topic, whops 15:16 MTDiscord IRCv3 has stuff for that too, but nobody except that one cloud service actually implements it last I checked 15:23 Helenah Okay so I did -DENABLE_GLES=TRUE but still no GLES driver available when I start the game, for both ogles1 and ogles2, it says invalid driver specified and falls back to opengl. Scroll up for more information. 15:24 MTDiscord are you building irrlichtmt with GLES2 enabled too? 15:28 Helenah MTDiscord: I can't remember needing to do that, here's my script: https://termbin.com/u6130 15:29 MTDiscord if you're on 1.9.0mt10 you'll need to define _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_OGLES2_ in IrrCompileConfig.h 15:31 Helenah So this explains why I didn't need an extra step with the dev source/ 15:31 Helenah ? 17:10 sfan5 you can just use the dev source btw, it works fine 21:18 * Desour achieved to get a "pure virtual method called" in C++, by calling a member function in a parent destructor o/