Time  Nick           Message
00:03 prairiewind[m] oh, the minetest irc channel has a relay to matrix
00:20 wsor4035       most (alll?) libera channels are mapped to matrix ones via a not the best relay
00:54 giov4[m]       <MTDiscord> "<Jonathon> also, i wouldnt be..." <- I just tried it and... if i try to run minetest.write_json(table) it just freezes for like 5 minutes and then crashes. I guess it's not made for big tables :\
00:56 wsor4035       what data are you even trying to use? also does have table have missing indexes?
00:59 giov4[m]       the table has a series of [hashed_position] = {node_id, param2} elements, so yes it has missing indexes. I'm using that to make a system that detects what changed in a map area and lets you reset it asynchronously, that's why I need it. But maybe I'm just using a dumb approach
01:00 wsor4035       yeah, write json is trying to fill in all the missing indexes
01:00 wsor4035       i tried to do something in the past, forgot what i did, might have been converting the hash to a string, or turning the pos to a string
01:02 wsor4035       see https://github.com/minetest/minetest_docs/blob/master/doc/persistence.adoc#minetestwrite_jsondata-styled
01:14 giov4[m]       oh this is useful actually, thanks
16:18 imi            hi, use-case: I have an in-place compiled MT server, and I want to run it in 2 instances (one production and one testing). now these 2 instances might have very different modsets: maybe even 2 different (versions of the same) mod. so I need to run them from 2 different directories to make sure a mod with the same name doesn't overwrite another mod. my question is: what needs to be copied and what doesn't need to be copied? bin for
16:18 imi            sure needs to be copied src for sure doesn't need to be copied. what else?
16:28 calcul0n       imi, you'll make your life much easier by making two clones and compile them separately
16:28 MTDiscord      <Warr1024> Is there really some compelling reason not to just make separate copies of everything just to be safe?  You might run into a situation where you want to update one thing and not the other and if they're linked together, you can't.  If you keep them separate, you can still copy over parts if you DO want them in sync.
16:28 calcul0n       there might be other options but all you get is saving a few Mo
16:29 MTDiscord      <Warr1024> I generally prefer to keep them separate to the extent of running them under separate containers or as separate users, at least.
16:33 imi            calcul0n: I might need to use git to be able to revert back&forth then
16:38 calcul0n       well this is exactly why git exists :)
16:58 sfan5          imi: use 'make package' to generate a tar.gz
16:58 sfan5          then extract that where and as many times as you need it
17:00 imi            ok thanks
17:14 imi            sfan5: would you be considering using submodules for minetest game and irrlicht?
17:15 imi            that way every mt commit would contain the hash of the corresponding commits of these other submodules
17:18 sfan5          see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13034