Time  Nick            Message
17:00 FavoritoHJS     the forums have been unusually slow for a month or so
17:00 FavoritoHJS     anyone have any idea why?
17:01 ROllerozxa      implying they ever used to be fast
17:02 FavoritoHJS     must... not... start... civil... war...
17:16 MTDiscord       <exe_virus> Honestly they have been slow for me for the past 2-3 years. Only reason I avoid them, someday I'll grab every findable asset on there from internet Archive and be done with it, cause it's nearly unusable, but has so much hidden value
17:27 FavoritoHJS     why is the maximum light level for artificial lights 14 and not 15?
17:27 Krock           15 is sunlight
17:27 Krock           and the engine would go nuts if you use that for artificial light
17:28 FavoritoHJS     but I'm fairly certain that sunlight and nodelight are stored separately
17:28 FavoritoHJS     then again, I might be underestimating c55phagetti
17:28 Krock           there's only node light
17:29 Krock           sunlight does strictly speaking not exist in Minetest
17:30 FavoritoHJS     so how does the devtest light tool even work?
17:30 Krock           does it light up your surroundings?
17:30 Krock           if so, then it modifies param1 which is commonly to store light of "transparent" nodes
17:31 FavoritoHJS     no, it tells you the light where you use it
17:31 FavoritoHJS     and it outputs sunlight and artificial separately
17:31 Krock           that's because there's two light banks: one for daytime and one for night
17:31 Krock           night will tell you the value without sunlight propagation
17:32 Krock           and day is with all mixed together
17:33 Krock           this is not the most elegant solution, see #11060
17:33 ShadowBot       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11060 -- Change light banks meaning by numberZero
17:38 rubenwardy      You can calculate sunlight and artificial by looking at the day and night banks
17:39 FavoritoHJS     it seems like the night bank always contains the nodelight component
17:40 FavoritoHJS     sunlight seems to be unobtainable by only looking at the banks, though
17:40 FavoritoHJS     there are situations where sunlight is less than nodelight, in which case both banks will only show nodelight
23:49 LandarVargan[m] Someone's having issues loading the serverlist, I'm not webversed enough to have any idea what's going wrong https://fosstodon.org/@minetestrat/109326255087018320
23:50 LandarVargan[m] Oh, I'm 2 hours late
23:52 LandarVargan[m] Or not. They get `503 Service Temporarily Unavailable nginx/1.22.0` when they try to load the link in-browser
23:53 LandarVargan[m] @sfan5