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Duvalon |
Hi. How do settings work for mods inside a game? Does it use the individual mods' settings, or do you have copy all the mods' setting into a single settingstype.txt for the game? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> settings for mods inside a game are ignored |
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Duvalon |
Thanks. |
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Duvalon |
Is there any way to configure settings for a game without modifying the code? |
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Krock |
Duvalon: you can configure the settings in the main menu if that's what you want |
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Krock |
I don't quite understand your question |
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Duvalon |
I'm talking specifically for mods inside a game |
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Krock |
same thing. I can see them in the main menu configuration |
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Duvalon |
the settings for mods inside a game don't show in the main configuration |
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Duvalon |
Those are the settings for the standalone mod |
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Duvalon |
As in, you installed the game, and installed the mod too. Even if the mod is used inside the game, the settings won't be used. |
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Krock |
https://i.postimg.cc/Nj1nkrq8/grafik.png works for me |
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Duvalon |
I mean, the mod is *inside* the game, without you enabling it |
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Krock |
yes.. that's what I have here |
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Krock |
MineClone 2 is the game where it's inside |
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Duvalon |
Oh ok, I see. I'll have a look at how MineClone2 does it |
| 15:47 |
Duvalon |
Thanks |
| 15:47 |
Krock |
it's again with a settingtypes.txt file |
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Krock |
the settings that you change are written to your main minetest.conf file |
| 15:48 |
Krock |
.. and they overwrite the game's minetest.conf file (if there is any) |
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Duvalon |
Great. Thanks Krock. |
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MTDiscord |
<Meowie Gamer> Sup guys |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> celeron55: hey, the forums are throwing 504 gateway timeout errors |
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Duvalon |
Hey Meowie |
| 16:09 |
Duvalon |
I can't reach the forums either |
| 16:10 |
Duvalon |
It would be really helpful if the minetest.settings:get would throw a verbose log with the values used |
| 16:19 |
Krock |
you're welcome. |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
Duvalon: print(dump(your variable here)) usually suffices for debugging |
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celeron55 |
hmm, there's some crawler doing lots of requests |
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Krock |
it's not me this time around 8) |
| 16:21 |
celeron55 |
actually, these don't quite look like valid requests |
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celeron55 |
and it's closing the connection before it actually receives the result, i.e. http status 499 |
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celeron55 |
seems like DoS |
| 16:23 |
celeron55 |
it's doing requests like /viewtopic.php?t=1755/**/AND/**/6538=6538/**/UNION/**/ALL/**/SELECT/**/(SELECT/**/CONCAT(0x4c466b45,(NULL),0x4d6f4735)),2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33/**//**//**/AND/**/6538=6538 |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> sounds like a vulnerability scanner bot |
| 16:23 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> stuffs all GET arguments with junk to check for SQL injection and whatnot |
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muurkha |
this /**/ is a new one on me, is that a MySQL extension? |
| 16:27 |
celeron55 |
looks like there's also someone crawling the wiki |
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celeron55 |
i tweaked the rate limiting, let's see if it helps |
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celeron55 |
will take a while as i set up a large burst allowance |
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BuckarooBanzai |
celeron55: sounds like the thing sqlmap would do: https://sqlmap.org/ |
| 16:40 |
celeron55 |
looks like the forum is now usable-ish. i used to have an ip blocklist set up in nginx but i lost that when i switched to nixos |
| 16:40 |
celeron55 |
will need to set that up again some day i guess |
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Guest3980 |
hi guys |
| 16:48 |
Guest3980 |
i need some help :( |
| 16:49 |
BuckarooBanzai |
Guest3980: https://dontasktoask.com/ |
| 16:50 |
Guest3980 |
how i put my server in the pubblic server list? |
| 16:50 |
Guest3980 |
sorry |
| 16:50 |
BuckarooBanzai |
is it reachable from the public internet? (port forwarding set up) |
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Guest3980 |
yes |
| 16:51 |
BuckarooBanzai |
if so: you only need to enable the `server_announce` setting and adjust some names/ports |
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BuckarooBanzai |
!up pandorabox.io |
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MinetestBot |
pandorabox.io:30000 is up (112ms) (IPv6) |
| 16:51 |
Guest3980 |
i have only to uncomment it? |
| 16:51 |
BuckarooBanzai |
^ you can also check with this if it is reachable |
| 16:52 |
Guest3980 |
!up nicolino75.duckdns.org |
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MinetestBot |
nicolino75.duckdns.org:30000 is up (38ms) (IPv4) |
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Guest3980 |
its online :D |
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BuckarooBanzai |
haven't done that in a while but give it a try, can't really hurt |
| 16:54 |
BuckarooBanzai |
just checked, it should just be `server_announce = true` and maybe `server_description` ,`port` and `server_address` |
| 16:55 |
BuckarooBanzai |
afaik you can also try these settings on a "live" server with `/set` |
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Guest3980 |
thanks for help :D |
| 16:55 |
BuckarooBanzai |
!next |
| 16:55 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 16:56 |
BuckarooBanzai |
(no problem) |
| 17:02 |
MTDiscord |
Command sent from Discord by Niklp: |
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MTDiscord |
!up archtec.freemyip.com |
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MinetestBot |
archtec.freemyip.com:30000 is up (110ms) (IPv4) |
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Nicolino75 |
hi again lol |
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Nicolino75 |
any official discord server of minetest? |
| 17:06 |
Desour |
use irc, it's better |
| 17:06 |
Nicolino75 |
ok |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> Discord.gg/minetest |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Use whatever platform you feel most comfortable on |
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Nicolino75 |
thanks |
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Duvalon |
celeron55: I would recommend an IPS like snort or surricata |
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Duvalon |
if you don't use one already :D |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> yup, the url has been /minetest , don't really need to remember much xD |
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Nicolino75 |
my server is not on the public list, i think i will play alone :3 |
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wsor |
seems desour is https://xkcd.com/1782/ |
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muurkha |
irc does have its advantages |
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wsor |
like being stuck in the past in relation to any other modern platform like discord, matrix, etc? |
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Desour |
the thing is, discord doesn't have any real advantages over similar chat apps |
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wsor |
according to you. |
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Desour |
what do you mean with "stuck in the past"? you don't need a time machine for irc |
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wsor |
irc is pure text. it also limits you to short line lengths, it has no support for grouping channels, markdown, formating, emotes, etc |
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muurkha |
well, being stuck in the past is nice when I'm on limited cellular data connections; I know nobody is going to send me a 3-megabyte funny image and use up 10% of my data allowance for the day |
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muurkha |
but the big advantage is that it's not centralized under the control of a company |
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pjalsDaniel[m] |
well, if you don't want centralization matrix might be for you |
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wsor |
while i like matrix, i also have to admit that its markdown support is poor, matrix rooms requiring you to do manual upgrades which really is just archiving the old one and moving to a new one, matrix spaces being more of a random collection of channels and nothing more, etc |
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Desour |
those new features aren't needed in a public chat |
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pjalsDaniel[m] |
(if your talking about irc i mean) |
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muurkha |
(although libera is centralized under the control of a volunteer cooperative, and their corruption by a for-profit company is what resulted in the freenode-to-libera transition) |
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wsor |
says you Desour, your obviously set in your ways. |
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muurkha |
matrix's markdown support does have bugs yeah |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> what annoys me most about IRC is the lack of a proper history protocol |
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wsor |
afk a bit |
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muurkha |
I do use matrix |
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pjalsDaniel[m] |
i scrolled up to see some context, nvm |
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muurkha |
yeah, luatic, agreed |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> you need bouncers or logs |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> and for the logs you'd have to figure out how to feed them to your chat app |
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muurkha |
I've found matrix to be kind of flaky |
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muurkha |
of course irc is flaky too in its own ways |
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muurkha |
matrix doesn't have netsplits |
| 17:27 |
muurkha |
I feel like the matrix/scuttlebutt/slack idea that "a chat is a globally visible log to which we append messages" is a better basis than the IRC/XMPP idea "a chat is a CB channel on which messages are unreliably broadcast to whoever is connected at the moment" |
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Desour |
for a public chat I want logs that everyone can easily access without registering anywhere. I haven't yet seen this done with discord, matrix, zulip or any other chat program than irc |
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muurkha |
I haven't either but it's relatively easy to set up with matrix |
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muurkha |
or zulip |
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muurkha |
not sure if discord allows it |
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muurkha |
IRC does have support for emotes |
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* muurkha |
hugs wsor |
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muurkha |
also emoji: ? |
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Desour |
I guess they were referring to reactions |
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muurkha |
oh, that would make sense. it would be nice to have reactions yeah |
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Desour |
but they don't really fit into chats, as a message can then be edited after it's sent |
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pjalsDaniel[m] |
Desour: with matrix theres view.matrix.org or guest accounts in matrix.to |
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pjalsDaniel[m] |
it relies on public rooms though |
| 17:32 |
pjalsDaniel[m] |
s/it/view.matrix.org/ |
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Desour |
oh, cool I didn't know view.matrix.org, thanks! |
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muurkha |
pjalsDaniel[m]: thanks! I didn't know that! |
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wsor |
back, yeah, i was refering to reactions to messages |
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* muurkha |
pats wsor on the head |
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wsor |
lol, thanks |
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muurkha |
:) |
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Nicolino75 |
guys |
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Nicolino75 |
how i can add mobs and hungry? |
| 18:41 |
Nicolino75 |
i have only the console |
| 18:42 |
Nicolino75 |
linux console |
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Alias |
Nicolino75: 1. Find the mod you want to add on a git repo 2. Go to the mod repo of your server 3. clone the git repo to the mod folder 4. Go to your world folder 5. enable the mod in your world.mt |
| 18:46 |
Nicolino75 |
thanks,thanks,thanks,thanks |
| 18:50 |
Nicolino75 |
where i can find the mobs and hungry mod? |
| 18:50 |
Nicolino75 |
some website are slow :/ |
| 18:51 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> content.minetest.net |
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Nicolino75 |
thanks again :3 |
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Nicolino75 |
i cant find the folder :( |
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fluxionary |
is there some way to have per-world settings for worlds i launch through the GUI? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> no |
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Krock |
fluxionary: map_meta.txt |
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fluxionary |
Krock: thanks! |
| 20:35 |
Krock |
well, I wouldn't advertise to rely on mapgen setting getters/setters for that, though. |
| 20:36 |
Krock |
a separate file would make more sense to avoid overwriting crucial map parameters |
| 20:49 |
fluxionary |
it seems only the mapgen settings are read from there? i put another setting in there and it's not showing up |
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kilbith |
I was in a IRL dev meeting yesterday and realized how fucking ugly people in this area were :/ |
| 20:59 |
rubenwardy |
better to look like an arse than be an arse :) |
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kilbith |
you never met me IRL so have no idea about it |
| 21:04 |
kilbith |
it if happened I'd certainly grab some guys by the collar |
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Krock |
rubenwardy: why not both? 8) |
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rubenwardy |
haha yeah, there's a lot of arse-looking arses too |
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rubenwardy |
I don't judge grabbing men by collars but that's not appropriate for this channel |
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MTDiscord |
<savilli> Minetest forum takes ages to load. Is it normal? |
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rubenwardy |
yes unforuntately |
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Desour |
see https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2022-09-24#i_6018308 |
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