Time  Nick           Message
02:52 Parnikkapore_m <independent56> "https://i.imgur.com/jGXohP4...." <- Only the cart layer looks spaghetti to me
02:52 Parnikkapore_m I fear for what happens once those elevators break
03:25 fluxionary     i've started a major rework of moreblocks and wouldn't mind input https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/pull/191
03:25 fluxionary     (though i'm probably going to sleep in a moment)
07:36 definitelya    I see many mods have their trees drop all their leaf and log nodes, for every tree cut. Is the engine capable of specifying a chance for them to drop something, instead?
07:36 definitelya    (While still part of the tree, not when you are building something, of course).
07:36 definitelya    Because I love the big trees, but dang if that's a lot of materials!
07:47 independent56  I had a race with my sister
07:48 independent56  https://i.imgur.com/pbCs8JF.png https://i.imgur.com/m9AHHHD.png https://i.imgur.com/lTTZaDb.png
07:48 independent56  The train wasn't even at full speed, but the airplane was slower
07:50 independent56  This is why Avdtrains is better then Super Duck Hidroplane
07:51 independent56  Airplane is better at felxibility, trains better at accuracy, speed, and proximity.
07:52 definitelya    independent56: I choose: a Transformer. :P
07:54 independent56  And yet there are people who use vehicle mods, combinng the need for tracks of a train with the slowness of a plane, and are inflexible and require special infrastructure
07:54 independent56  all for "freedom"
11:30 independent56  Are bonemeal, fertiliser, and mulch effectively the same? Is one more effective?
11:34 calcul0n_      they have different probablities to grow the crops
11:34 independent56  Ah, makes sense
11:34 calcul0n_      mulch is the least efficient, bonemeal is better and fertiliser is the best
11:35 independent56  Mulch seems the best solution as it is renewable
11:35 independent56  (Sorry, i went all revision guide)
11:36 independent56  Bonemeal seems to be the worst for renewability
11:36 independent56  And fertalise rseems to be a mix
11:37 calcul0n_      bones are easy to produce with a deployer+breaker machine but you need tons of them because drop chances are very low
11:38 calcul0n_      so yes, mulch is a good option to keep it simple
12:06 independent56  Oh, makes sense
12:06 independent56  With mulch it's literally "ok, some of my output goes here"
12:09 independent56  I thought for bones you had to do /kill independent56 a hundred times
12:14 independent_   Potential improvement for //stack2: if the previous stack2 operation was within 5 minutes and no other worldedit commands have been called, Take theiterations value and only iterate over what hasn't been iterates (//stack2 50 and then //stack2 80 is actually //stack2 50-80 if that makes sense)
12:16 sfan5          no
12:17 sfan5          that means the operation can possibly fail to do what is expected if you don't wait long enough
12:17 independent_   Oh, makes sense
12:17 independent_   Because you can edit blocks
12:17 independent_   30 seconds? or maybe even 10?
12:18 sfan5          zero seconds
12:18 sfan5          if the user wants to continue a previous stack they should move the selection
12:20 independent_   Potential improvement - add arithmetic
12:21 independent_   /shift x 50*20 and then //stack2 20 20 0 0
12:21 independent_   For the same effect as //stack2 80 20 0 0
13:23 Pexin          definitelya: know about vacuum?
13:24 Pexin          chainsaw tree, vacuum dropped items
13:25 Pexin          requires pipeworks i think
13:40 independent_   Yes, needs pipeworks
13:40 independent_   Or technic for the technic vaccum, which you can click and suck all the blocks around
13:41 independent_   But pipeworks allows chest integration
14:11 independent_   I have the capability and want to run a freight railway. But i don't have anything to transport. What multi-stage processes, excluding tree-farming and food production, can be situated in seperate factors with freight transport in the middle?
14:11 independent_   s/factors/factories
14:50 definitelya    Pexin: Thanks, I just installed lumberjack, and it got rid of the leaves issue, at least. I'll check vacuum out.
17:56 ball           Which is older, 0.4.17.1 or 5.4.1?
18:05 MTDiscord      <ROllerozxa> 0.4.17.1
18:05 MTDiscord      <ROllerozxa> 5.5.1 is the newest
18:07 Krock          weird question
18:12 ball           Thanks
18:12 ball           I'm surprised that mine is newer than my son's
18:13 ball           (he's on Linux)
18:14 ball           Is 0.4.17.1 ~= 4.17.1?
18:18 MTDiscord      <ROllerozxa> well there's no version that was ever called 4.17.1 so it should be the same
18:18 MTDiscord      <ROllerozxa> prior to 5.0.0 minetest used 0ver
18:18 MTDiscord      <ROllerozxa> so it went from 0.4.17 to 5.0.0
18:19 Krock          perhaps don't use ancient package repositories. 5.0.0 itself is already a few years old
18:19 Pexin          did ubuntu even update from 5.1.1 in 22.04?
18:20 Pexin          I mean they recommend snap, so
18:24 Krock          they basically enforce snap for Firefox
18:25 Pexin          looks like the repo version is 5.4.1
18:26 definitelya    ball: Make sure u are downloading from https://www.minetest.net, the only official one, if u use the website.
18:48 ball           definitelya: I built mine through pkgsrc.  His came from whatever Raspberry Pi OS uses.
18:49 definitelya    Ok