Time  Nick         Message
11:10 Bombo        i compiled minetest 5.5.0 for my raspberry pi3, with SDL, now i realized the keyboard doesn't work properly, i can't use shift key, so i can't enter chat commands, with / i get 7 instead, it's the same in console (no x) and with X (windowed) any ideas?
12:04 erle         Bombo does it work with previous versions?
12:12 sfan5        the sdl support in irrlichtmt is unfinished
12:13 erle         yeah also people had ideas about key mapping that turned out to be wrong
12:13 erle         i remember that around christmas i tested some key on 3 different laptops and minetest gave me 3 different names for the key
12:14 erle         forgot what key it was though
12:14 Markow       Shaders have made a great difference in the appearance of everything. Textures are looking great! Big difference when enabled and not disabled.
12:14 erle         which shaders in particular?
12:14 Markow       The 'shaders' setting, when enabled
12:15 erle         yeah, i have no idea what exactly it enables if no other boxes are checked
12:15 Markow       The trains in the Advanced Trains mod look much better now
12:15 Markow       Big difference when enabling shaders.
12:15 erle         i mean i have only one computer on which this setting does not slow the game to unplayable levels right now, but also i often aim for “crisp”, i.e. texture filtering
12:16 erle         i thought shaders are more for concrete features. like … waving plants or so.
12:17 erle         or bloom effects
12:17 erle         sfan5 can you remember what was wrong with bump mapping btw? it *was* wrong, but i wonder what was wrong about it and i forgot.
12:17 erle         i mean it got removed afaik
12:17 Markow       It definitely made an enormous difference in the appearance of many objects. I can post a before / after screenshot of some items.
12:18 erle         oh, please do
12:18 erle         just one screenshot is prob enough for en educated guess
12:18 erle         i mean two
12:18 erle         before/after
12:19 Markow       Example, when shaders were disabled (this is on the latest git snapshot), the subway in Advanced Trains looked like a simple yellow box without features. When enabled, all the features, curves, details came out, really nice.
12:20 sfan5        that's called object shading
12:20 Markow       It's a nice improvement.
12:23 erle         ah yeah, i guess curved models profit much more from this
12:24 erle         btw, advanced trains is the one mod i am thinking of when i argue for an entity attribute specifying a move path
12:31 Markow       Getting back to work on a 'Port City' on my MT Server :D
12:32 Markow       Work in progress:  https://imgur.com/RdZa4Qi
12:39 Markow       The 'stack2' command is pure genius in the Worldedit mod. Extremely productive.
12:48 sfan5        you're welcome ;)
12:52 Markow       Any setting setting available in the Basic Trains mod to give sound to the Japanese engine, before I modify the Lua code?
12:52 Markow       It runs too quietly, lol
13:04 Bombo        erle: good question :) ok i tested the debian 11 repo version 5.3.0, it works there
13:05 Bombo        hm will the mt version compiled with sdl use sdl in X windowed mode too?
13:06 Bombo        or can one chose if it uses sdl or whatever, x11?  opengl? gles?
13:07 MTDiscord    <ROllerozxa> irrlichtmt compiled with the sdl device will use sdl no matter what
13:28 Bombo        mkay
13:44 * Oblomov    wants a libcaca backend
13:50 Bombo        ;-)
13:50 Bombo        hm what version of zlib does mt 55 need? '  Could NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY) (found version "1.2.11")'
13:52 Bombo        i compiled it already with sdl so i thought i had all the deps, strange
13:56 sfan5        that means it couldn't find the library for it
13:56 sfan5        "i tested the debian 11 repo version 5.3.0, it works there" <- I guarantee you that isn't using SDL
14:01 Bombo        sounds like vicky pollard 'could not find, but found version'
14:33 Bombo        ok got it, had to add architecture amd64 and install all deps :amd64 too (cross compiling on i7 x86_64)
14:34 Bombo        err arm64
14:35 Bombo        but it doesn't run now, in X glxbadfbconfig
15:32 Bombo        now i added to IrrCompileConfig.h: #define _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_X11_DEVICE_ but still get the error 'X Error of failed request:  GLXBadFBConfig Major opcode of failed request:  152 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request:  34 ()'
15:33 Bombo        (glxgears runs)
15:48 kabou        Bombo I understand that you are attempting to crosscompile minetest for arm64 on x86_64
15:49 kabou        when you run glxgears, you are running it on x86_64 hardware, right?
15:50 kabou        but when you crosscompile for arm64, the build system will look for arm64 X11 headers and will attempt to run arm64 specific tests
15:50 Bombo        kabou: no glxgears on the raspi
15:50 kabou        allright then
15:51 kabou        can you compile for x86_64 natively without problems?
15:51 Bombo        i compile on x86_64 for arm64/aarch64 copy it over to the raspi, run it in X
15:51 kabou        did you try compiling it on the raspi instead?
15:51 Bombo        yes x86_64 works
15:51 Bombo        no it's too slow and gets too hot
15:51 kabou        cross compiling is a lot trickier than regular compiling
15:52 Bombo        compiling with #define _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_SDL_DEVICE_ in IrrCompileConfig.h did work
15:52 Bombo        it runs without X and with X windowed
15:52 Bombo        on the raspi
15:53 Bombo        just one prob: the keyboard doesn't do shift, so i can't type /chatcommands
15:53 Bombo        so i wanted to compile a version of 5.5 without sdl now
15:55 Bombo        on the first try i compiled with a chroot and qemu on my i7 x86_64, it worked, took ~95mins now with aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc only ~7 minutes :)
15:58 Bombo        -- Looking for _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_OGLES1_ - not found -- Looking for _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_OGLES2_ - not found -- Looking for _IRR_COMPILE_WITH_OPENGL_ - found
15:58 Bombo        -- Found OpenGL: /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libOpenGL.so
15:58 Bombo        -- Found X11: /usr/include
15:58 Bombo        -- Looking for XOpenDisplay in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libX11.so;/usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libXext.so - found
15:58 Bombo        hmm
16:07 MinetestBot  02[git] 04Desour -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix the documentation of InvRef:get_lists() and clean up code (#12150) 138d38743 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/8d387433b14791db95e59127b5e6e30f58155c1e (152022-03-29T16:06:16Z)
16:07 MinetestBot  02[git] 04TurkeyMcMac -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimize swapping nodes with equivalent lighting 1311aab41 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/11aab4198be1a0f1104a433896e908e4c86de0c9 (152022-03-29T16:06:44Z)
16:07 MinetestBot  02[git] 04TurkeyMcMac -> 03minetest/minetest: Store vector metatable in registry 1306d197c https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/06d197cdd042392e1551e5e7244c61300a6bb4e3 (152022-03-29T16:07:00Z)
16:11 sfan5        btw for performance reasons you probably dont want to be using OpenGL on an rpi
16:12 Bombo        so do i enable gles1 or gles2?
16:13 sfan5        the latter
16:14 sfan5        but also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12035#issuecomment-1027192813
16:20 Bombo        -- Found OpenGLES2: /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libGLESv2.so
16:56 Bombo        sfan5: well, that worked. thx :)
16:56 Bombo        30fps now \o/
16:59 Bombo        and keys work /grantme all ;)
17:03 Bombo        is there a way to see what driver is used right now? 'Using: opemgl|gles1|gles2|sdl|whatever' don't see that in the log
17:05 Bombo        and for audio too pulse, alsa or what is used
17:42 definitelya  Bombo: If the pulseadio daemon is enabled, it should have taken over audio streaming, system- wide.
18:38 Bombo        //! DEVICE is the windowing system used, several PLATFORMs support more than one DEVICE
18:38 Bombo        //! Irrlicht can be compiled with more than one device
18:39 Bombo        but doesn't seem to work, i added sdl and x11 and gles2, says no opengl-es2 support compiled in
18:40 Bombo        just testing ;)
19:19 sfan5        device is either x11 or sdl, video driver is either opengl or gles1 or gles2
19:19 sfan5        no idea if the sdl device even supports gles (I hope?)
19:20 sfan5        the state of both will be somehow apparent in --verbose output
23:24 paradust     Is there a script somewhere for building the distribution directory? Including fonts, mods, etc? I see much of it in the minetest source repo, but not all of it
23:26 _Zaizen_[m]1 celeron55: hi, could you check your matrix?