Time  Nick           Message
01:52 ghoti          How would I cause a particular sapling not to respond to bonemeal/fertiliser?  I *think* I could modify the bonemeal mod to explicitly exclude the sapling in question, but is there a way for me to affect this behaviour from a separate mod without having to maintain a patch?
01:55 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> in theory you could use node or function overrides
01:57 ghoti          I don't know how to do that. Can you suggest an example of this I can learn from?
01:58 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> i suppose i should go look at how this mod operates
02:02 ghoti          I'm thinking that https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/bonemeal/src/master/init.lua#L477 is where I would put an additional condition. I don't think I would want to replace the entire on_use() function, that's kind of large and subject to change.
02:07 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> lua local old_use = minetest.registered_items["bonemeal:fertiliser"].on_use minetest.override_item("bonemeal:fertiliser", {   on_use = function(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)     if pointed_thing.type == "node" and minetest.get_node(pointed_thing.under).name == "ignore:me" then return end     old_use(itemstack, user, pointed_thing)    end })
02:07 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> that should work
02:08 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> to modify it from a external mod
02:09 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> replace ignore:me with the itemstring you dont want bonemeal to affect
02:09 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> and obviously this mod needs to depend on bonemeal so it loads first
02:41 ghoti          Oh my goodness. It works! Thank you so much, I was dreading having to remember details months from now when bonemeal next gets updated. :-)
02:44 Andrew         How possible would it be to add a Boeing 777 to Minetest? I mean APercy's hidroplane already does a great job at a cessna 172-like aircraft's flight model.  The problem is, what is the max speed Icould achieve with a Minetest entity?
02:47 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> well, you have the question of what size is used in c++ for velocity vector, but i would think your way more likely to run into slow loading areas first
02:47 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> being a issue
02:47 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> ghoti: your welcome
03:15 MinetestBot    02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Cap damage overlay duration to 1 second (#11871) 1384fdd36 https://git.io/JSC1X (152022-01-03T03:14:02Z)
03:15 MinetestBot    02[git] 04Desour -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix vector.from_string returning a table without vector metatable 131965628 https://git.io/JSC1D (152022-01-03T03:15:41Z)
03:28 MTDiscord      <exe_virus> Andrew, if you avoid using any lua mapgen, and set the world backend to dummy (ram only) I think you can get some pretty good load speeds
03:29 MTDiscord      <exe_virus> Especially with multithreaded mapgen
03:31 Andrew         exe_virus: Yeah, but that wouldn't be sustainable in a server in the long run
03:36 MTDiscord      <exe_virus> Ah, this is for online use? Then you really need to make the ignore block non-physical, so they can fly into unloaded blocks
03:38 Andrew         Yup
03:39 Andrew         otherwise we'd stall all the time
05:12 Andrew         Hi
05:12 Andrew         Oops, wrong buffer
05:12 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> lol
05:44 ghoti          So, I see headanim, playeranim and character_anim. Is there one to be avoided? Are the extra features of character_anim really noticeable? Or costly in terms of server performance?
05:47 MTDiscord      <Jonathon> character_anim depends on bloatlib, so best to avoid that. playeranim says its a ugly hack itself, but it does support the most rotation. meanwhole headanim is probably the most simple, but it only supports turning the head up and down
08:34 luk3yx         @Jonathon Why avoid character_anim just because it depends on modlib?
08:36 MTDiscord      <Sublayer plank> :yesmodlib:
08:57 definitelya    luk3yx: It's certainly ambitious; but it would only work out as a concept if the majority of people actually used it.
08:57 definitelya    (and improved it)
17:01 james[m]123456 Does anyone want to join my new minetest server?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3f2fb0ea814371d502c0bc3483c5132adbfaed7c)
18:34 Calinou        whoa, Minetest caverns can get truly massive now
18:34 Calinou        on seed 3073727301666396218, teleport to 157 -1556 -24
18:34 Calinou        Minecraft's new caverns are much smaller in comparison
18:36 Calinou        this is with v5 mapgen, that probably explains it
19:39 eflister       hi, i installed 5.4.1 on ubuntu via the software app (is that snap?).  i've got game controllers (xbox X|S and ps dualshock 4) connected via bluetooth and they can control other games like supertux.  under "settings" i set "enable_joysticks" and tried the different "joystick_type" options, but minetest doesn't seem to see them at all.  looking
19:39 eflister       at https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4153 it seems they should work at least somewhat, what am i doing wrong?
20:14 james[m]123456 <eflister> "hi, i installed 5.4.1 on..." <- I dont know about that.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4ffde2380a682099b9582efe2def69ebcdcdd185)
20:37 Calinou        eflister: I'd try building from source and see if it works to see if the issue comes from Snap sandboxing
20:37 Calinou        https://github.com/minetest/minetest
20:40 eflister       Calinou: thanks -- i also installed the other games that do work via the software app.  in some cases i had to enable the joystick permission in the software app, but minetest doesn't have that option.  i notice several games including minetest have multiple instances in the software app, why is that?  are some snap and others not?
20:50 Calinou        yes, it's most likely that one of them is the Debian/Ubuntu package while the other is Snap or even Flatpak
21:01 sfan5          in theory a snap or flatpak package could interfere with access to joysticks
21:02 eflister       Calinou+sfan5: ok, that one says it is a snap.  i tried the other one (5.3.0+repack-2.1) from ubuntu-impish-universe, same results.  is it still worth trying to build myself?
21:04 james[m]123456 I've also tries to get a PlayStation 4 and Xbox one controller to work with it. And no luck.
21:04 james[m]123456 Same with Xbox 360 controller. Did not work.
21:04 james[m]123456 When I last tried.
21:08 eflister       james[m]123456 - what do you make of that github issue, looks like people have at least some indication that it's communicating...
21:11 james[m]123456 eflister: Looks good they are working on this. I would be happy. That and when we get good VR support.