Time Nick Message 00:35 erlehmann MisterE what do you want to do? 01:04 MTDiscord Nice, gj independent 56! I actually know what it took to get that working haha 01:42 MTDiscord just curious... one use case would be to make an object-based menu 01:42 MTDiscord inworld, like a floating ui 01:42 MTDiscord but just visible to one player 02:04 MTDiscord you can already do that with dynamic media 11:13 sfan5 dynamic media is not the fix for everything 11:13 sfan5 anyway: yes the server could send an entity to just a single player 11:36 MTDiscord maybe sending entities to just selected players would be a samll step towards network bubbles too 13:06 MTDiscord May not be the fix for everything, but you can do it 14:17 GNUHacker Ive this server crash: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8452 14:37 MTDiscord I've fixed this "engine feature" on few mods, player is available but not complete anymore. 14:38 MTDiscord So player variable check passes, also methods do work but return crap 14:40 MTDiscord Basically if not player or not player:is_player() then is not enough, you have to check every access. This however happens only during certain specific circumstances and I've not investigated root cause so no idea but I've verified that for example player instance is valid, it has methods but for one player:get_meta() returns nil 14:41 MTDiscord Basically player instance is available but engine does not anymore have complete data, player instance is crippled. 14:41 rubenwardy did the player leave? 14:41 rubenwardy The reference may have been invalidated 14:41 rubenwardy this shouldn't happen during a callback though 14:41 MTDiscord https://github.com/minetest-mods/stamina/pull/38 14:41 rubenwardy only when storing a player ref and using it eg: in minetest.after 14:41 MTDiscord There's one of those fixes 14:42 rubenwardy yeah, that's an invalid ref 14:42 MTDiscord As I said I've not investigated but it seems to only happen during entity step 14:43 sfan5 players do not have an entity step tho 14:43 MTDiscord They don't but you can look for players during entity step. 14:44 sfan5 true 14:45 sfan5 it'll depend on how you're doing that 14:45 MTDiscord Oh actually also possibly another place: on punch callbacks 14:46 MTDiscord And it happened multiple times when CSM crashed client, but I've no idea about CSM code 15:06 GNUHacker This is a bug that cause many server crashes (server version 5.4.1), dont close this issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8452 15:16 sfan5 the issue reporter says it does not happen anymore and the steps in the issue are not enough 15:16 sfan5 if you can still reproduce it you can open a new issue with reproduction steps 15:26 MTDiscord On that issue wondering what "async callback involved" actually means... if it is keeping ref in variable and using through minetest.after or similar then it is invalid. 15:32 independent56 TFW your servers are on the bottom of the list? 15:34 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/zFybxe2 15:36 sfan5 they'll go up if you leave them online for an hour or something 15:37 independent56 Nice! i was using data from last morning before it refreshed. Look at where they are now: https://imgur.com/a/dKpWzIH 15:41 independent56 Where did that forum post discussing server rankings go? 15:51 GNUHacker sfan5, I what server version "dont happend anymore"? In in 5.4.1 20:15 independent56 What is the most effective downwards way to mine? I need diamonds at -1024, but i am only at  -265. Do i continue my 2*1 hole? 20:18 independent56 I will use water instead of a ladder 20:19 independent56 Ooh, it has better stopping power 20:21 erlehmann independent56 minetest does not check downwards falling speed. get a cheat client and an autominer, that is the most efficient. 20:21 independent56 I'm on a singleplayer game; i donot want to cheat 20:21 Pexin manipulate worldgen. this is Best Way 20:21 independent56 I am getting diamonds for digtron, my preferred auominet 20:24 erlehmann independent56 are you on linux? 20:24 Pexin landscape composed entirely of diamondblock, and no materials to make adequate pickax 20:24 erlehmann hahaha 20:25 erlehmann independent56, with the linux program xdotool you can make minetest think that you are holding the mouse button continuously 20:25 erlehmann then just sit back and relax 20:25 erlehmann i mined a bunch of obsidian that way a few days ago lol 20:25 Pexin until you eeach a tall empty cavern andSPLAT 20:26 Pexin or pickax breaks 20:31 independent56 Or you leave the IRC out of fustration 20:33 erlehmann lol