Time  Nick           Message
06:10 Extexo         Say you're typing in a formspec and the formspec updates while you're typing and what you were typing gets erased, is there a way to prevent that?
06:23 anuke[m]       type in a text editor
06:24 anuke[m]       please add [SOLVED] to the thread topic thanks
06:33 Extexo         Huh? I didn't post a thread topic.
06:37 anuke[m]       joke
06:37 anuke[m]       i am giving very unhelpful advice
11:52 MTDiscord      <10L​apis Lazuli Wolf> When I slept in the default bed,I did not respawn by the bed upon death.
14:59 MTDiscord      <08a​ppguru> Gustavo6046: regarding that fix, you might want to have a look at the flowingliquid utilities I provide in modlib: https://github.com/appgurueu/modlib/blob/master/minetest.lua#L148-L262
15:42 zceejkr        Hello, I want to run a minetest server, but I already have some other services running on it. How much resources does a server use? Note the machine I want to run it on also lacks a GPU.
15:45 sfan5          I can't give you exact numbers but it's pretty lightweight (depending on which game/mods you run)
15:45 sfan5          and don't worry, you don't need a GPU
15:45 zceejkr        So all the rendering takes place on the client side?
15:46 sfan5          yes
15:47 zceejkr        Alright, thanks.
16:07 daiNoZord      Hello, I've looked at the api, several inet search results, the modding handbook and a bunch of mods - so far I've managed to set "meta" for a node ie. "owner", "infotext" and (i assume) "pos" - but I'm totally baffled now as to how to pass that data to another node. Or, more accurately, retrieve it by punching another node. The idea being.. any player can punch one single, central node and be teleported to their own,
16:07 daiNoZord      player-specific ("owner") node. Thanks to Wuzzy and Krock I met tables (briefly) before and was successful in that respect. Is that what's required here? Or do things need to be written to a file? Ugh.. I think I'm outta my depth here (lol)
16:10 sfan5          since you cannot search the entire world for that other node you'll need to save its positon somewhere central
16:10 sfan5          ideal for that would be player metadata
16:11 daiNoZord      ah.. so attach the meta to the player and not the node?
16:12 daiNoZord      but you can get puncher:player_name - so isnt that player meta?
16:12 daiNoZord      and compare that to some remote node meta, stored in a table somewhere?
16:12 daiNoZord      or am i way off
16:13 sfan5          why do you want to store anything in nodemeta at all?
16:14 daiNoZord      so it acts like... a player-specific "homing beacon" that individual players can teleport to. And they can all do it just by punching one, special, central node that does the look-up
16:21 zceejkr        Hello, so I am running my server now, at the logs say it is listening on 0.0.0.0:30000. But when I do an nmap scan from another machine in the local network, the port 30000 is reported as opened, but the state is CLOSED.
16:21 daiNoZord      It may be the wrong, or least efficient way to do it but its the logical solution in my head. But I over-complicate things.... If their's a better way I'd love to hear it.
16:22 zceejkr        As I understand this means that the port is opened correctly in the firewall, but no service is listening on it.
16:22 zceejkr        Any ideas what the problem could be?
16:22 sfan5          zceejkr: Minetest uses UDP, you cannot scan it with nmap to determine if it's "open"
16:22 zceejkr        Ahhh
16:22 zceejkr        I opened TCP ports
16:22 zceejkr        Cheers
16:24 sfan5          daiNoZord: but storing that data in nodemeta doesn't get you anything? how are you gonna find that one node when you need to read the data?
16:27 daiNoZord      that's where I'm up to - ok so the homing beacon idea is out. I just thought that comaring the puncher name with a "owner" index alongside a "pos" value was the way to go - but that shows how much I have left to lear :)
16:28 daiNoZord      *comparing
16:28 daiNoZord      *learn (lol)
16:31 daiNoZord      ok i think it just occurred to me that set meta can be after_place and get_meta on punch but both for the same node and trying to access them from another node is a no-go
16:31 daiNoZord      damn
16:33 sfan5          I think you need to think over your idea from the perspective 'what does the mod to determine where to teleport the player (where their own node is)?'
16:36 daiNoZord      all I could think was this node needs a "label" and simplest way must be - label == puncher name. I'll take a step back and look at it again. Thanks sfan5 :)
16:39 daiNoZord      I'm sure I must need to create a "list" or "table" somewhere, somehow though...
16:41 daiNoZord      oh can u assign a variable (the nodes pos) to player meta? and look it up that way?
17:03 daiNoZord      Ah.. PlayerMetaRef.. "There is currently no text in this page.." - maybe not then..
17:12 daiNoZord      and "set_meta" as a search in lua.api.txt returns a depracated entry...
17:19 daiNoZord      set_attribute is deprecated... hmm..
17:19 daiNoZord      I don't think player meta is the way after all
17:24 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Player meta persists between restarts...it exists until you either delete the player data from the DB or empty it via code
17:26 daiNoZord      IhrFussel: Thanks - that's good to know - I was just looking at how to "set" it. My searches turn up empty so far
17:26 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> If you somehow store a list of node positions that are owned by that player you could load that specific node via core
17:26 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> code*
17:27 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> That's easy player:get_meta():set_string("somekey", "value")
17:27 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And to get player:get_meta():get_string("somekey")
17:28 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And to get player:get_meta():get_string("somekey")
17:28 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> If you set the value to "" it gets deleted
17:29 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And if get_string() returns "" the value doesn't exist
17:29 daiNoZord      aha! so after_place (node1) player:set_string, and on_punch (node2) player:get_string? ooh - that could work :)
17:30 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> There is also set_int() get_int() and more...but for your usecase string sounds like what you need
17:31 daiNoZord      fantastic! thankyou very much!
17:31 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> No no... local meta = player:get_meta(); local val = meta:get_string("key"); meta:set_string("key", value)
17:32 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Like that
17:32 daiNoZord      ah yes sorry - was short-handing it lol
17:33 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> But to load a specific position in MT it requires something called voxelmanip...look it up
17:34 daiNoZord      yes.. voxelmanip was the thing I wanted to get to after this... I love it when a plan comes together
17:34 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> You forgot get_meta() though then
17:34 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Also you cannot store tables as player meta...use minetest.serialize(table)
17:36 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Or wait is that the wrong one...one sec
17:36 daiNoZord      yes the tab is open on serialize/deserialize. I need to learn what that means. I just closed 194 crucial browser tabs... and im building it back up quickly..
17:36 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Nope it's correct
17:37 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Yes so serialize() then store in meta and later deserialize() the string from meta
17:37 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And you have your table back
17:38 daiNoZord      cool. but to set the player meta on_place and find it on_punch would work in this case?
17:39 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> What exactly is your goal? You wanna store meta in on_place() and check that meta in on_punch()?
17:40 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> If so then yes that works...meta is accessible anywhere where you have an actual player object
17:40 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Player meta*
17:41 daiNoZord      after_place (node1) "this is your player-specific-block", ... on_punch (node2) "teleport to node1 (per-player)"
17:41 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> But there is one big limitation for player meta...it can only be accessed while that player is in the game
17:41 daiNoZord      is serialization/deserialization necessary in this scenario?
17:42 daiNoZord      Ah yes but theyre the puncher
17:42 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Will the meta just have 1 position?
17:42 daiNoZord      yes just 1
17:42 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Then you can just store it as minetest.pos_to_string(pos) in the meta
17:43 daiNoZord      in player meta?
17:43 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And to convert it back minetest.string_to_pos(metavalue)
17:44 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> Yes like local postr = minetest.pos_to_string(pos); player:get_meta():set_string("somekey", postr)
17:46 daiNoZord      ok that is really helpful - thankyou IhrFussel! :)
17:47 MTDiscord      <11I​hrFussel> And to convert back from meta to pos: local pstr = player:get_meta():get_string("somekey"); ifpstr == "" then return end; local realpos = minetest.string_to_pos(pstr)
17:47 blaise         Texes is getting double fisted with no ky
17:47 blaise         XD
17:49 daiNoZord      blaise you shouldn't do things like that to your mum
18:32 zceejkr        How do I create a new world on my server?
18:32 sfan5          you want to throw away the old one and start from scratch?
18:34 zceejkr        I would not mind yes. I installed the mineclone2 mod, do I even need a new world for it?
18:34 zceejkr        Or will it work fine if I use it in the old world?
18:34 sfan5          mineclone2 is a game, not a mod
18:35 sfan5          and yes it needs an entirely new world
18:35 sfan5          in any case you'll need to locate your world folder and just ... delete it
18:35 zceejkr        :D
18:35 zceejkr        alright
18:35 zceejkr        Thanks :)
18:36 zceejkr        How would I run multiple worlds?
18:36 zceejkr        Is there a command to create a fresh world next to an old one?
18:38 daiNoZord      ive never tried it but i reckon if i open multiple terminal windows and run mts on each then that just might work. its a stretch tho. try that :)
18:39 zceejkr        Ah, what I meant is how can I have multiple worlds, but run one at a time. Something like minetestserver --worldinit worldname
18:40 zceejkr        To create a fresh world in the worlds folder.
18:40 sfan5          you can run multiple server instance, make sure to pass different locations for --config --logfile and --worldname
18:46 zceejkr        Ok I got my world/game running now. Thanks for all the help sfan5.
18:57 Extexo         I'm gonna post this again cause it was ignored yesterday:
18:57 Extexo         Say you're typing in a formspec and the formspec updates while you're typing and what you were typing gets erased, is there a way to prevent that?
18:59 Extexo         Ping me when an answer is given
18:59 daiNoZord      what does the formspec belong to and what causes it to update?
19:32 Extexo         It's a node's formspec
19:32 Extexo         And it gets updated when new information is added
19:33 Extexo         Which is done realtime
19:33 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> hm
19:34 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> Extexo: perhaps look into somehow getting the text value when you are redrawing? and add that in
19:36 Extexo         How do I get the text value without it being entered yet?
19:36 sfan5          you can't
19:36 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> oh? fun
19:37 sfan5          your best bet probably is to hold off updating it until the player finishes doing stuff
19:37 Extexo         Oof
19:37 Extexo         Kk
19:42 MinetestBot    02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Server-side authority for attached players (#10952) 137832b68 https://git.io/JtXoK (152021-02-15T19:41:19Z)
20:55 MinetestBot    02[git] 04NathanielFreeman -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Update Spanish translation (#2824) 1373ea8e2 https://git.io/JtXPC (152021-02-15T20:54:48Z)
21:29 MTDiscord      <10L​apis Lazuli Wolf> @paramat If I sleep in a bed,it doesn't set my spawn point there. I'll respawn at my original point.
21:29 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> paramat is around?
21:31 sfan5          he is not
21:31 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> @Lapis Lazuli Wolf
21:36 MTDiscord      <10L​apis Lazuli Wolf> Well,is this where I can report bugs?
21:36 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> github.com/minetest/minetest_game
21:52 Conradish006   ~cdb Draconis
21:53 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> hehe
21:53 * Conradish006 snickers then runs away
21:57 MTDiscord      <10L​apis Lazuli Wolf> I submitted it there now.
21:57 Conradish006   While you wait for a response, you can always play ~cdb Draconis
21:58 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> hehe
21:58 MTDiscord      <09s​rinivas> this video is sponsored by raid draconis legends