Time  Nick             Message
03:22 Guest0           Is there a character skin editor program available for making custom character skins?  Other than using a mod (which has a comment no longer working) or a photo editor like GIMP?
03:23 Guest0           I'm interested in making some higher quality skins, because many available on the skinsdb are not pleasing to my eye. Thank you.
03:25 Guest0           I've notice Minecraft skins have very high quality, even though I've never played Minecraft, I came across some looking for Minetest skins.  The skins from Minecraft aren't portable into Minetest are they?
03:39 deltanedas[m]    use a minecraft skin editor and move the parts as per sam, or edit one to save them in the correct locations
03:40 Guest0           delta do you happen to have a link to a recommended editor?
03:41 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> https://godly.github.io/minetest-skin-converter/
03:42 Guest0           Thanks MTD, that looks useful.
03:42 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> VannessaE had a model for supporting more minecraft skins in some mtg issue that paramat closed if you wanted to support more minecraft skins
03:42 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> something to do with arm widths and being backwards compatable
03:43 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> bit tired atm, sorry
03:47 Sven_vB          what's a good mod to make sun and moon round?
03:49 Guest0           the photo realism does that.
03:50 Guest0           https://github.com/Sharpik/Minetest-SharpNet-Photo-Realism-Texturespack
03:55 Sven_vB          thanks!
03:55 Guest0           For my own question, I found this online editor which looks promising, as it allows to edit in 3D instead of a flat canvas:  https://minecraft.novaskin.me/   (then use the converter Jonathan posted).
03:55 Guest0           Welcome Sven.  Glad I could help someone in return for all the help I've been receiving.
04:14 ZaraChimera      Trying to advance in the Skyblock Redo mod for Minetest. Running Minetest 5.3.0 I have the issue that neither the water source nor lava source will flow. I get the error "not allowing to replace CONTENT_IGNORE" when it tries to replace "air" with water or lava. Searching has not turned up anything to fix it with a number of links related to the error being dead.
04:14 ZaraChimera      (http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29758#p29758 is dead for example)
04:17 ZaraChimera      It's caused by Map::setNode() it seems.
04:17 Sven_vB          what's the stack trace?
04:21 ZaraChimera      Stack trace? (I am not familiar at all with lua.) I am running the stable on Windows.
04:27 ZaraChimera      This is the link to the mod I was using: https://github.com/ac-minetest/skyblock
04:27 ZaraChimera      Tried the one from cornernote in the past as well, but the quest progression is not completable either as it has no way to make the iron bars you have to place.
04:29 ZaraChimera      The Skyblock Redo prevents advancement beyond level 1 because of the issue that Water and Lava don't flow, so I can't get under my starter island using the water to place blocks lower for the stone generator. No stone means no furnaces and no advancement beyond level 1.
04:48 Sokomine         oh, backup of forum going on? fine
04:51 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> not much of a noticeable difference, business as usual, forms down, try again later
04:52 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> to be fair, has been way better since c55 upgraded phpbb and blocked the chinese bots
05:22 Sven_vB          how is the spawn position for new worlds determined? until now I thought it would just be at 0,0,0 (or above until air)
05:22 Sven_vB          (and down while air below)
12:13 MTDiscord        <05e​xe_virus> I feel like writing a SDL program that renders a .obj and lets you update textures on the fly shouldn't be too hard to write. But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.....
12:13 MTDiscord        <05e​xe_virus> Heck, maybe html5 + 3d is libraries will be even faster
12:14 MTDiscord        <05e​xe_virus> The hardest part is connecting textures to the 3D object in html
12:15 MTDiscord        <05e​xe_virus> Nice, it does already exist: https://github.com/Adjam93/threejs-model-viewer
13:30 acvarium36       Hi. I want to pipe minetest chat to Text to Speech. But messages from chat print in command line only if it is my server.
13:30 acvarium36       Is there a way to print chat messages to linux command line, if I am connected to the server as a client?
13:32 Krock            only by modifying the Minetest source code
13:32 Krock            or using CSMs which might be disabled by server
14:20 MTDiscord        <12W​arr1024> Be aware that text to speech may be hard to use on busy servers where there's a ton of chat happening really fast.
14:21 MTDiscord        <12W​arr1024> For accessibility, increasing the font size may work better in some cases.
15:14 acvarium36       It would be great, to have the way in game to message people, that are near you. And not as a plugin, but as a feature in the engine core
15:17 rubenwardy       that can be done by mods on the specific servers that want that
15:18 rubenwardy       I don't think it should be in the engine
15:21 Sven_vB          somehow my clouds seems to be blinking. they toggle visibility every few seconds. they stay their course though, so I guess they don't despawn. what might be wrong? using 5.3.0 on Ubuntu
15:28 Sven_vB          seems to be a bug in the regional weather mod. without that, I don't have any clouds.
16:19 LoneWolfHT       Did you disable clouds for your client?
17:15 daiNoZord        There's fall damage - but when a falling node lands on a player, there's no damage.. how come?
17:33 Krock            because the node isn't damaged either when a player falls on it?
17:34 daiNoZord        fair point
17:34 Krock            jk. it's not implemented but I remember a PR about that
17:34 Krock            or at least a discussion
17:42 MTDiscord        <12W​arr1024> I did node-falling-on-player damage in NodeCore.  Doing it properly and gameplay-interestingly was not trivial.  It also seems rare enough in normal play that it's arguable whether it's worth the trouble.
17:46 daiNoZord        True. More ppl would probably be annoyed by it while mining than appreciate in other ways. Ok, so I like to drop sand and gravel when mining to get down big drops, but if I had another falling node, any arbitrary new_node, how do I change it so that it lands and turns into a little spinny "discarded" item?
17:51 Krock            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/falling.lua#L281-L291
17:51 Krock            change this code so that it creaes a dropped item
17:51 daiNoZord        Ah cool thanks
17:52 Krock            or better: overwrite this function from an external mod to keep things clean as possible
17:52 MTDiscord        <10n​erzhul> this bridge works in 2 ways ?
17:52 Krock            @nerzhul no
17:53 MTDiscord        <11J​onathon> lol
17:53 Krock            it works in many ways
17:53 MTDiscord        <10n​erzhul> okay it's the nether
17:53 Krock            but in this channel there's indeed a duplex connection to discord
17:54 MTDiscord        <12W​arr1024> Discord <-> IRC <-> Matrix and maybe beyond...
17:54 Krock            Web Log <--^
17:54 Krock            supposed to connect to IRC
17:54 MTDiscord        <10n​erzhul> yep i just looked
18:36 daiNoZord        someone beat me to it..
18:43 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Zughy -> 03minetest/minetest: Consistently use "health points" (#10868) 1344a9510 https://git.io/JtWTV (152021-01-27T18:42:02Z)
19:17 sonomicheleya[m] Hi, I need to update an entity props after a command is issued. I thought I could store the object id in the entity props when it’s activated and then retrieve the object with minetest.object_refs[id]. How can I get the object id from inside the entity on_activate callback? Or is there a better way to do that?
19:17 sonomicheleya[m] I know minetest.object_refs shouldn’t be used, it’s the same for minetest.luaentities? If not, how can I get the id and store it?
19:28 rubenwardy       you can store the ObjectRef as long as you check it before use
19:28 rubenwardy       ids are not stable so there's not much point in using them
19:29 rubenwardy       check it -> make sure the methods don't return nil (5.2+)
19:37 sonomicheleya[m] I think it should always exists, I mean, I use it when someone is editing the entity so the entity is there
19:39 sonomicheleya[m] But I can’t serialize userdata, so I should do something like “entity._obj_ref = nil” before serializing the entity, right?
19:39 rubenwardy       it tends to be a good idea to only serialize certain keys in an entity
19:44 sonomicheleya[m] Yeah that’s a nice idea, I could just serialize custom props  thanks
19:56 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> if you need to store players, just store their player name
19:57 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> iirc it's the only "objectref" that's technically static across world loading
19:57 Krock            no exactly. from join to leave.
19:57 Krock            and singleplayer players IIRC still don't ever leave
19:58 Krock            or was it on_shutdown that isn't called? no idea
19:58 MTDiscord        <12W​arr1024> fairly sure at least one of those is reliably called on SP quit
19:58 Krock            yeah
20:13 sonomicheleya[m] It’s not a player I need to save, they are npcs, I’ve created a thread on the forum on wip mods section, it’s called folks
20:53 sonomicheleya[m] I’ve done it, I don’t think it’s the best way but it works, maybe in the future I’ll figure out another way to do it
21:08 MTDiscord        <05e​xe_virus> Good luck! Npc mods are hard to do right
21:11 Krock            use AI
21:14 sonomicheleya[m] Thank you exe!
22:01 Andrey01         hello, is there any doc that explains how the rotation system of entities works? I don`t quite understand that thoroughly
22:24 beanzilla        Hi, I am having an issue with my mod not reading the settings defined in settingstypes.txt in my mod's directory. (Specifically it does not seem to be using the boolean value stored) https://pastebin.com/T7itLwnS
22:24 beanzilla        Pardon the miss types of settingtypes.txt
22:24 sfan5            settingtypes.txt is only for the menu, it's not used at runtimes
22:24 sfan5            runtime*
22:25 beanzilla        Ok... so what should I use for my mod's config then?
22:25 sfan5            settingtypes.txt is fine but you'll also need to put the default values into your code
22:26 beanzilla        Alright, thanks.
22:38 beanzilla        Ok, I think my code uses the default values now, but it seems it always uses them. How do I have it use what is set in settingtypes.txt then?
22:41 sfan5            there seems to be another misunderstanding
22:41 beanzilla        sorry. :(
22:41 sfan5            settingtypes.txt defines the setting description, types and default values for the menu editor
22:41 sfan5            the values users set for settings are stored in minetest.conf
22:43 beanzilla        Ok, so on startup of Minetest that's when the settingtypes.txt is read and loaded, and used by the settings editor in the main menu?
22:46 sfan5            yes
22:49 beanzilla        So really what I need to use is something like mod storage? This way mymod will track it's settings and load them on start of it's self?
22:50 sfan5            no
22:50 beanzilla        ?
22:50 sfan5            what you want is for the user to put mymod_allow_command_line = true in their minetest.conf
22:50 beanzilla        Ah, ok... so in mymod's directory minetest.conf will contain that... then I access it the same way?
22:51 sfan5            it's the central minetest.conf also used by the engine
22:51 beanzilla        Ah ok I know where that is now.
22:52 sfan5            but yes you access it exactly like the code excerpt you posted
22:52 beanzilla        Ok, now it's starting to make more sense.
22:53 beanzilla        How do I make it so if it doesn't exist it will add that to the minetest.conf?
22:54 sfan5            you could explicitly call set_bool(...) but why?
22:55 beanzilla        Oh, duh the default would then be used so, nvm.
22:55 sfan5            yes