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IRC log for #minetest, 2021-01-13

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01:47 iamweasel hi
01:48 iamweasel are there any good mods with weapons? better if it's 1 or a few fun well-balanced weapons, ranged is a plus
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04:27 SwissalpS iamweasel: take a look at [multitools] https://github.com/ChimneySwift/multitools
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08:06 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Factorize more guiEditBoxes code (#10789) 4b01282 https://git.io/JtfOD (2021-01-13T08:05:09Z)
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10:00 imi hi
10:01 imi I have a minetestserver running (under linux). how do I terminate it? Can I just press ctrl-c and expect it to terminate properly?
10:12 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> yes or use the X
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11:02 MTDiscord <I​hrFussel> 'killall minetestserver' is fine too if you only have 1 instance running
11:14 imi for some weird reason my minetestserver created a new world in bin/worldname instead of using the regular worlds/worldname
11:16 imi does it matter in which directory do I start the minetestserver? e.g. if I go to bin and issue ./minetestserver or one dir aboce and issue ./bin/minetestserver (handcompiled)
11:18 celeron55 if you use --world its parameter is a path, not a name (and you have to use --world if you want to create a new world instead of using an existing one)
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11:18 celeron55 so if you cd to bin and run minetestserver with --world foobar, you'll get a world in bin/foobar
11:18 celeron55 if you have a world named foobar in worlds and use --worldname foobar, then it'll use that
11:19 celeron55 so if you cd to bin and want to create a new world named foobar in the regular world directory using minetestserver, you need to use --world ../worlds/foobar
11:21 celeron55 alternatively what works is to create an empty directory foobar in worlds and then use --worldname, it'll find it and fill it in
11:21 imi I have a world foobar at ../worlds/foobar but it created a new one at ./foobar
11:21 celeron55 yes, that's correct if you use --world and not --worldname
11:22 celeron55 path vs. name
11:22 imi ./minetestserver -map-dir ../worlds/foobar seem to be the most self explanatory
11:23 celeron55 it does exactly the same as --world
11:24 imi ok so it's not --worldname but --world?
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13:42 MTDiscord <I​hrFussel> --world expects a path and --worldname expects a name that exists in the worlds dir...simple as that
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21:02 Wuzzy Question to all: Do we have an Android / iOS version of Minetest, but for version 0.4.17?
21:02 Wuzzy In other words: Is there a way to join JT2 on Android?
21:02 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Yeah download from source maybe.
21:03 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Choose the apk
21:05 Wuzzy oh noes
21:05 Wuzzy Is there a NOOB-PROOF way to do this?
21:05 Wuzzy There should be an official 0.4.17 download so players can play on JT2 again
21:06 Wuzzy oh wait. is minetest on iOS?
21:06 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> I'll link it to you
21:08 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Is 0.4.17.1 ok? 0.4.17 doesn't have an apk option.
21:09 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.17.1/Minetest-0.4.17.3.apk
21:10 rubenwardy yeah
21:10 Wuzzy its okay
21:10 rubenwardy Minetest doesn't support iOS because the App Store T&Cs are problematic, Wuzzy
21:10 Wuzzy ah
21:10 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Ye sorry this is for Android
21:10 rubenwardy it arguably conflicts with GPL
21:10 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> oof
21:10 Wuzzy isn't it the other way round? "iOS doesn't support Minetest" 😛
21:10 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Android ftw
21:11 rubenwardy "App Store doesn't support Minetest"
21:11 rubenwardy because we could support iOS, but we wouldn't be able to publish it
21:11 rubenwardy and as iOS is heavily locked down, you'd need to jailbreak your device or get a developer license ($100 per year) to install custom apps
21:12 Wuzzy oh I just wanted to help an user to move away from one of those weird mobile forks ...
21:12 Wuzzy Yes I know Apple sucks completely
21:12 rubenwardy Multicraft is on iOS, they believe they have a loop hole in LGPL that's not in GPL
21:12 rubenwardy I don't think that's true, and I'm not sure how much it's worth supporting such a toxic platform anyway :D
21:13 Wuzzy the player I'm talking to is on an iPad. Is this iOS or macOS?
21:13 rubenwardy iOS lol
21:13 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Why is it toxic? I'm out of the loop lol.
21:13 MTDiscord <F​lamore> Multicraft is 0.4.0
21:13 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> f xD
21:14 rubenwardy Knot Abbot: <rubenwardy> and as iOS is heavily locked down, you'd need to jailbreak your device or get a developer license ($100 per year) to install custom apps
21:14 rubenwardy also the app store thing
21:14 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> yeah no thanks apple
21:14 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> I'm so glad I switched.
21:15 MTDiscord <F​lamore> Jailbreaking sounds better than paying the fee
21:15 Wuzzy Is iPad iOS or macOS?
21:15 rubenwardy I've responded, iOS
21:15 rubenwardy iOS is the mobile OS.  macOS is the desktop OS
21:16 rubenwardy macOS doesn't have this problem because they actually allow other app stores and sideloading apps
21:17 MTDiscord <K​not Abbot> Weird.
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