Time  Nick         Message
08:26 spoing       Hi, In my inventory bar I only ever see one timber item - no matter how many trees I chop. I doubt this is intended but having trouble working out wher to begin debugging.
08:26 spoing       I'm using the Minetest Project Docker image ver 5.3.0. I have installed the unified_inventory mod and still see this bahavior.
08:27 spoing       Appreciate any hints or tips.
08:30 MTDiscord    <06F​lamore> Lag perhaps?
08:31 sfan5        uhh
08:31 sfan5        spoing: you have creative mode enabled either for yourself or globally
08:31 sfan5        a common mistake is to do /grantme all, which will also grant you "creative"
08:32 sfan5        if that is the case you can undo it using /revokeme creative
08:32 spoing       sfan5, thanks I'll check that now.
08:34 MTDiscord    <06F​lamore> Yeah that makes more sense
08:35 spoing       Do I need to restart the server to have such a change take effect?
08:35 sfan5        if you do something by editing a file, definitely
08:36 spoing       hmm, createive_mode was false in world.mt.  Where else could it be set?
08:38 sfan5        did you try /revokeme creative in chat?
08:38 spoing       Yes that had no effect.  and I don't believe I had done /grantme all or some such.
08:39 spoing       I found a setting in minetest.conf
08:40 sfan5        it could potentially be a mod doing this, dunno
08:40 sfan5        restart just in case
08:45 spoing       Thanks sfan5 that was it. rebooted the server and tree chopping increments the counter.
08:45 spoing       :)
09:44 Fleckenstein Does anybody know a Free Minecraft Sound pack (I need some sounds for MineClone2 development)?
10:14 MTDiscord    <06F​lamore> Pretty sure you can't use minecraft assets.
10:27 sfan5        a sound pack under a free license would presumably not include proprietary (original) minecraft assets
10:27 tpanmajia    clean room development
10:27 tpanmajia    might as well not anger c418
11:19 MTDiscord    <09s​rinivas> Is it possible for minetest to detect window size? And can it be sent to the server? So formspecs can be better optimized for mobile?
11:20 tango_       no
11:20 tango_       (that I know)
11:21 tango_       anyway, gave a look at nodecore
11:21 tango_       interesting approach
12:54 MTDiscord    <08a​ppguru> @srinivas : see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7658
13:11 MTDiscord    <09s​rinivas> Oh, i see, thanks
15:19 MinetestBot  02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: ContentDB: Add overwrite dialog when content is already installed (#1… 13edd0836 https://git.io/JLFSH (152021-01-04T15:18:31Z)
15:30 MinetestBot  02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Update Gitlab-CI pipeline 13e663aec https://git.io/JLF9m (152021-01-04T15:29:25Z)
15:48 Wuzzy        How do you drop item on android?
15:50 Krock        open inventory and drag it outside?
15:52 MTDiscord    <08a​ppguru> 3 dots -> item drop icon iirc
19:19 MinetestBot  02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: refacto: factorize multiple code parts from guiEditbox childs (#10782) 1358a7090 https://git.io/JLbvW (152021-01-04T19:19:20Z)
21:01 kaizak       Hey, anyone done updates for Apple Silicon ?
21:02 kaizak       Undefined symbols for architecture arm64:  "_png_init_filter_functions_neon", referenced from:      _png_read_filter_row in libIrrlicht.a(pngrutil.o)ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64
21:04 Krock        Hello. Did you check whether Irrlicht is using the correct libpng version?
21:04 Krock        respectively whether the right version is installed
21:04 kaizak       think I'll need to download manually from homebrew. let me give that a bash
21:04 Krock        although that should happen automatically when installing the development package in a sane package manager
21:05 kaizak       yeah I was expecting brew to sort out the dependacies for me
21:05 kaizak       yeah I was expecting brew to sort out the dependancies for me
21:05 Krock        dependencies
21:05 kaizak       brew install --build-from-source minetest
21:06 kaizak       thanks for the schooling ;-)
21:07 Krock        heh np. keep in mind that it might also be a packaging bug, where someone made a mistake when setting up the dependency list. though that's nothing a CLI command couldn't fix manually
21:07 sfan5        irrlicht might have its own internal png version, no idea of homebrew sorted that out
21:07 Krock        right.
21:08 Krock        also an internal jpeg library
21:08 sfan5        and zlib and bzip2 too
21:09 sfan5        it's sort of a mess, this fork has the bundled libs removed https://github.com/minetest/irrlicht
21:09 sfan5        but no idea if/how it builds on mac
21:36 kaizak1      looks like minetest sources dont use the preinstalled versions. Or I need to setup something else to tell the makefiles to use existing installation of packagesI've installed all the packages form here https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/minetest#defaultbut still get the same error.maybe I'm installing it using the wrong strategy ?
21:36 kaizak1      brew install minetestError: minetest: no bottle available!This is why I am building form sources.
21:40 kaizak1      anyone know if LD_LIBRARY_PATH or such things matter in the minetest installations ?
21:43 kaizak1      nm -a /opt/homebrew/lib/libIrrlicht.a this prints out the usual stuff
21:45 kaizak1      Undefined symbols for architecture arm64:  "_png_init_filter_functions_neon", referenced from:      _png_read_filter_row in libIrrlicht.a(pngrutil.o)ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64
21:45 sfan5        sounds like you need to figure how to build irrlicht correct first
21:46 kaizak1      iirlicht is installed and I can nm prints out things which suggest it is readable/usable
21:46 sfan5        see if you can patch out the code that calls png_init_filter_functions_neon (this func should have a C fallback)
21:49 kaizak1      its my first time using homebrew. I normally use linux system. Does anyone know what "no bottle avaiable" means ?
21:50 sfan5        I have very few experience with brew but to my experience that means no downloadable binary is available and you have to build from source
21:50 sfan5        to my understanding*
21:50 sfan5        maybe I should proofread my texts..
21:56 kaizak1      alrighty. looks like I'll need to work through using sources and seeing if I can hack the makefiles or the C-files. As I have no idea what the src code does I'd prefer to hack around makefiles and env vars :-)
22:08 kaizak1      oh my word I feel so stooopid sometimes.
22:08 kaizak1      downloaded zip and it just worked. can someone update the install instructions telling folks to ignore all the homebrew steps
22:09 kaizak1      dont know if by installing all the packages and then downloading made any difference. But I do feel like a right plonker for not trying the direct approach first
22:19 sfan5        uh
22:19 sfan5        chances are they downloaded a x86 build of minetest which will run slower than native on ARM
22:19 sfan5        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯