Time Nick Message 10:06 Quiark anyone having bug in inventory that it incorrectly reacts to mouseup? 10:06 Quiark I pick up item using mousedown but it gets dropped to a nearby slot where I do mouseup 10:32 sfan5 by "nearby" do you mean you are hovering over the slot it ends up in or not? 10:55 MinetestBot 02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix object interaction distance not being checked (#10547) 137589cbe https://git.io/JkJpH (152020-11-09T10:55:15Z) 11:00 MinetestBot 02[git] 04m42uko -> 03minetest/minetest: Joystick: Remap joystick-specific KeyTypes to generic ones 13e1142ee https://git.io/JkJhZ (152020-11-09T10:58:50Z) 11:15 tango_ Quiark: I've seen it happen too 11:15 tango_ sfan5: to me it happens during the motion from the slot it comes from to the slot I plan to put it in 11:15 tango_ sometimes it drops on one of the intervening slots 11:16 tango_ and if there's something in it it gets swapped with that 11:16 tango_ very straonge 11:16 tango_ I hadn't considered it might be lag 11:16 tango_ (in the mouseup event handling) 11:16 tango_ the impression I get is as if the click + move + click becomes two drag motions 16:15 hisforever Hi I had a mod that had invisable light block .I don't remember the mod, anybody know it? 16:18 sfan5 !mod wield_light 16:18 MinetestBot sfan5: There are no results for this query :( 16:18 sfan5 !mod wieldlight 16:18 MinetestBot sfan5: There are no results for this query :( 16:18 sfan5 !mod wield light 16:18 MinetestBot sfan5: Lighten wielded item [wielded_light] by bell07 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19378 - https://github.com/minetest-mods/wielded_light 16:18 sfan5 that one=? 16:24 hisforever that helps stan thanks 18:06 BuckarooBanzai !up 2600:3c04::f03c:92ff:fe5c:411a 18:06 MinetestBot [2600:3c04::f03c:92ff:fe5c:411a]:30000 seems to be down 18:15 MisterE Hi, is anyone here? 18:16 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> possibly 18:16 MisterE :) 18:17 MisterE I want to set player movement to 0 programmatically 18:17 MisterE Im not sure if there is a good way to do that 18:19 jackdoe Hello? 18:19 MisterE hello 18:19 jackdoe Hi. How's it going? 18:20 MisterE I have a modding problem 18:20 jackdoe I'm kinda new to Minetest after having played Minecraft for a long while. 18:20 MisterE Oh! Welcome 18:20 MisterE You understand what minetest is, right? 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:21 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. 18:22 MisterE "its not a game, its an engine" You have to install your own mods to make the game playable. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 LoneWolfHT rubenwardy: ^ 18:22 MisterE Go to the content tab to install mods 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 MisterE tSTOP, pls 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 jackdoe I know its an open source recreation of Minecraft. I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:22 LoneWolfHT Unless matrix is broke that's spam 18:22 MisterE yep 18:22 MisterE :\ 18:23 jackdoe I know Minetest is an open source recreation of Minecraft 18:23 jackdoe I played Mineclone 2 for a bit. 18:23 Ingar !ops 18:23 jackdoe Hey. 18:23 MisterE was that spam on purpose? 18:23 jackdoe Spam? 18:23 MisterE reposting... 18:23 MisterE tIDK, 50 x 18:24 jackdoe Okay, Im a newbie to Minetest after playing Minecraft for a while so I wanted to see what anyone can tell me about Minetest. 18:24 MisterE Ok 18:24 jackdoe I played Mineclone 2 for a bit but it kinda left me wanting as it had a few things I miss from Minecraft. 18:24 MisterE For the best experience, join a server 18:24 MisterE ^^ 18:24 jackdoe Okay 18:24 jackdoe I always found Minecrafts music very soothing 18:25 MisterE Look for servers that have an interesting description nd a lot of players 18:25 jackdoe And I always notice how you have to keep holding down the "forward" key when jumping or else you stop in mid-air 18:25 MisterE A good start is Blocky SUrvival, though survival isnt hard there, there are lots of interesting builds 18:27 jackdoe Can you link me there? 18:27 jackdoe Cant seem to find it on ContentDB 18:28 MisterE @ jackdoe: Go to the servers tab and search Blocky SUrvival 18:28 MisterE t*Blocky Survival 18:28 jackdoe But anyway, Im still willing to give Minetest a second chance. Other than it being open source, what does Minetest have that Minecraft doesnt? 18:30 MisterE The idea behind minetest is that you can mod literally anything. If you are here to have fun, go to the servers tab and join a few and find a good one to play. You get a different experience with each server. Some servers have original content that the server owners make. Try the server IFS for a lot of original content 18:32 MisterE Minecraft is a game. Minetest is not a game... it is a program that allows you to play games. TO play a game, you can either make one by installing mods from the ContentDB or you can join a server (much better) 18:33 jackdoe I certainly find that overwhelming with all the mods on offer. 18:33 jackdoe I'm just looking to try and recreate Minecraft as close as possible. 18:35 Ingar there are games that do just that 18:35 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> If you're trying to recreate Minecraft as closely as possible, I'd recommend Minecraft. They emulate not only the gameplay, but even the licensing, pricing model, etc. 18:35 jackdoe *chuckles* 18:36 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> If you're here then it means you must be looking for something that's different in some important ways. 18:36 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> From what I understand the closest experience to Minecraft that MT has is probably MineClone2 right now. 18:36 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> it's a game, available for install on the content tab. There may be servers for it, I'm not sure, haven't looked. 18:37 jackdoe I'm just disappointed that Mineclone 2, so far, feels more like a cheap clone of Mincraft and I want to see if I'm missing something, if anyone can persuade me to give it another chance 18:37 MisterE Minetest is not free minecraft. Here, you will find a great diversity of content bc users can make their own content easily. Do you understand how to join a server? thats what you want to do... 18:37 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> yeah, any clone is likely to be "cheap" 18:37 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> When it comes to imitating Minecraft, Minecraft really has an advantage that nobody else can access. 18:37 Ingar and microsoft's money :D 18:38 jackdoe Well thanks anyway guys. As for trying the servers, I think I'll give that a try some more 18:38 MisterE Mineclone *is* not only a cheap clone of minecraft, its a *free* clone of minecraft. It is also supposed to be nostalgic... as Minecraft was many years ago. 18:38 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> I make a game for Minetest myself, and find Minecraft to be a pretty crappy clone of it. 18:38 jackdoe Unfortunately for me, I didnt play Minecraft right when it started. I only played the more recent versions and thats what I fell in love with. 18:38 jackdoe Right down to the atmosphere and music 18:39 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> That sucks. It was the earlier versions when it was really at its best :-) 18:39 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> I'm sorry you had to miss that 18:39 Ingar Especially the epic bugs 18:39 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> Maybe it's for the best for you, since at least they still make the version you love. 18:39 jackdoe What was it about the original version that the current one lacks? Besides the bugs? 18:40 Ingar jackdoe: far more 'uncomplicated' 18:40 jackdoe Fair enough 18:40 Ingar I also liked the worlds more 18:40 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> I bought MC back in the beta days, but ended up leaving because I was dissatisfied with gameplay direction. I ended up getting into the MC modding scene a bit, but then came over to MT because the modding tools in this world are much better than they've ever been in MC. 18:41 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> So, yes, it's possible to come to MT from MC and find it to be anything other than just a cheap knock-off. 18:41 jackdoe Can I at least find soundtrack mods for MT? 18:41 jackdoe um, music packages? 18:41 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> Music for MT games is rare because the size of the media files. Mostlly people just play their own music in the background in a separate player. 18:42 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> There ARE some packages that do music when it's integrated into gameplay. IIRC the Infinite Ikea does some music cue control based on gameplay environment...? 18:42 jackdoe Im interested. What was it about the gameplay that you felt dissatisfied with? 18:43 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> They just kept adding crap. They had this really cool voxel world emergent mechanics thing they could have focused on, but instead they just kept adding pets and other frivolities that didn't build on what they had. I saw the Better than Wolves mod going in a different direction, and building a comprehensive gameplay experience where each added element built on others, rather than just being more fluff. I wanted more of that, 18:43 MTDiscord and eventually wanted to MAKE more of if. 18:44 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> MC Vanilla kept going more and more in the fluff direction, and I played BTW for a while but my own attempts to expand and mod for it ran into issues with the extremely restrictive licensing. 18:45 Ingar imho, minecraft fun died when bukkit died 18:45 jackdoe Who? 18:45 Ingar bukkit, it was a server-side "mod organizer" and many interesting features 18:46 Ingar so, basicly, mods. 18:47 Ingar (disclaimer: I'm actually still running a vanilla mc server) 18:47 sfan5 "plugins" is what they're called 18:47 Ingar sfan5: right! 18:53 jackdoe Other than Mineclone2, any games you guys can recommend? 18:53 jackdoe What about mods too? 18:55 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> I can always recommend my own game, NodeCore. 18:55 jackdoe Funny. I just downloaded it now 18:56 jackdoe So you made it? 18:56 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> mostly, yeah 18:56 jackdoe I'll be sure to give it a try 18:57 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> I started having help after a while, so some features are contributed by others 19:05 MisterE Is there a way to test if player is in first person or 3rd? 19:11 Krock that's not exposed to the Lua API yet 22:21 sagax hi all! 22:21 sagax how to hot-reload code from mod? 22:21 sagax without restart game 22:23 MTDiscord <11I​hrFussel> Impossible 22:26 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> There is a mod for hot reloading 22:26 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> the only thing you cant reload is node registrations 22:28 sagax uff, hard reload for each changes 22:28 rubenwardy it's possible for cod 22:29 sagax cod? what is? english not native for me, sorry 22:29 rubenwardy +e 22:29 rubenwardy code 22:29 rubenwardy you can dofile files to load and run again, you'll need to design it to work well when ran multiple times 22:29 rubenwardy and not have any thing like register_* in it 22:29 sagax hm 22:29 sagax is sound as good 22:30 sagax i want reload code from mod 22:30 sagax hot-reload 22:37 rubenwardy it's not possible to hot-reload without designing the mod to allow that 22:37 rubenwardy and even then, you can only hot reload code 22:37 rubenwardy you can use devtest to get a faster loading time 22:37 rubenwardy it's a game bundled with Minetest 22:37 rubenwardy well, sometimes 22:37 rubenwardy *sometimes bundled with minetest 22:50 sagax hot reload code 22:50 sagax i mean - hot reload code 23:39 tango_ I have WAY too much tin and not enough copper 23:40 tango_ I wonder if it's because I'm color blind and copper veins are harder to see