Time  Nick             Message
00:01 KacperMinetest   bash minetestserver
00:29 MTDiscord        <04L​one_Wolf> Wait, is that how you're supposed to launch programs? I just ./minetestserver
00:31 perrier          I started a dedicated server without the ./
00:31 perrier          !up 69.247.56.186:30003
00:31 MinetestBot      69.247.56.186:30003 is up (130ms)
00:31 Noclip           KacperMinetest, @Lone_Wolf: Launching it with bash seems to be the issue.
00:32 Noclip           If I do "bash minetest" I get an error.
00:33 Noclip           But "bash firefox" works, just don't ask me why. ?
00:35 Emerald2         I just type the name of the program and it looks through various directories where programs would be found until it finds it.
00:37 Noclip           Emerald2: Yea but that only works if your programm is within one of those directories that are specified in the PATH variable.
00:37 Emerald2         True.
00:38 Noclip           And if it's not you either have to execute it via the full path or put "./" in front of it in case it's in your working directory.
00:39 KacperMinetest   Yeah, using bash was the problem
00:40 Noclip           KacperMinetest: Running a file with "bash filename" only works if your file is a bash script but not if it's a binary file.
00:40 Emerald2         I'd never heard of running either that way.
00:43 Noclip           If you put "#!/bin/sh" or "#!/bin/bash" in the first line of your bash script and make the file executable you can also run it with "./filename". Normally you don't run execute things with "bash filename". You should really get that weird idea out of your head.
00:47 Noclip           Emerald2: "bash [options] [command_string | file]"
00:47 Noclip           If you run a bash script with "bash filename" you don't have to make it executeable and you can leave out the "#!/bin/bash" headline.
00:48 Emerald2         Yeah I knew about that first bit being the way to do it.
01:16 SX               oh that "include -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1", is that basically portable minetest (as in common portable software distributions)?
01:17 SX               been playing with symlinks to keep sanity, that sounds a lot better if I got it right :)
01:20 MTDiscord        <04L​one_Wolf> Ye, portable minetest
06:32 tango_           I wish  MT had directional lightss 8-P
06:54 MTDiscord        <09s​rinivas> hmm, it could be implementable with particles?
07:12 tango_           srinivas: in what sense?
07:13 tango_           my idea with a directiona light would be that it only lights up blocks in a certain direction, but with the benefit that it decays more slowly (say 1 every 4 or 8 blocks)
07:13 tango_           if I remember how lighting was done in MT, this isn't something you can readily implement
07:13 MTDiscord        <09s​rinivas> well, you create particles with their own low glow, and it may just about work out
08:06 MTDiscord        <11I​hrFussel> Do particles actually emit light? I know entity glow doesn't
09:34 anon5[m]         no
09:35 anon5[m]         only light source blocks and the sun emit light
09:36 MTDiscord        <02B​lais3> meep meep
09:37 blaise           meep meep
10:55 MTDiscord        <09s​rinivas> oh well
10:55 MTDiscord        <09s​rinivas> !tell tango_ looks like i was wrong about that implementation of particles
10:56 MTDiscord        <09s​rinivas> /tell !tell tango_ looks like i was wrong about that implementation of particles
11:03 tango_           srinivas: np, I'm online and I've seen it
11:06 blaise           lol
11:34 tango_           but thanks anyway 8-)
14:50 tango_           is it possible for nodes to have connections specifications based on the node they are connecting to?
14:55 Wuzzy            tango_: ?
14:56 Wuzzy            tango_: look for "connects_to" in lua_api.txt. but i don't think i understand what you want
14:57 tango_           Wuzzy: very poorly phrased on my side, sorry. I'll try to explain with an example: consider the wall for example. When it's “alone” it appears like a post, but when it “connects” (e.g. to a nearby wall or stone block) its appearance changes due to the connecting part of the box
14:57 tango_           this connecting part seems to be independent from the type of the node it connects to
14:57 Wuzzy            oh ok.
14:57 tango_           so I was wondering if it's possible to specify different forms or textures for the connection based on the node type
14:58 Wuzzy            if a node connects, there can only be one connection style, sorry
14:58 Wuzzy            you cannot change how the connection looks, you can only determine *when* the node connects
14:58 tango_           I see 8-/
14:59 Wuzzy            what would always work as a workaround is by regiestering new nodes ... which sucks a little
14:59 tango_           how would that work?
14:59 tango_           you can change a node based on a nearby node?
15:02 Wuzzy            well you need to figure out the workaround yourself, sorry
15:02 Wuzzy            minetets does not help you here
15:02 Wuzzy            and obviously, client speedup flies out of the window, no matter what you do
15:05 tango_           8-/
15:05 Wuzzy            tango_: fyi, before we had connects_to, there was already a walls mod
15:06 Wuzzy            the trick was just registering a node for every possible wall/connection node, and needed a LOT of callbacks to update neighbor walls by hand, etc
15:08 tango_           that's a horrible hack
16:21 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Wuzzy re sprite based players and attachments
16:21 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> I don’t believe there is a way to cull the sprite cisually
16:22 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Hiding the sprite removes attachment visibility as it then removes the parent
16:23 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> In other words parent visibility affects attachments
16:24 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Easiest way would be to set the texture to an invisible pixel
16:25 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> But that wouldn’t affect other clients just local CAO
16:26 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Fortunately because of third person mode resetting visibility for attachments I could hook that and specifically set sprite mode manually
16:27 Wuzzy            why cant the sprite just not be hidden depending on the camera mode?
16:28 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Because that would remove any first person attachment
16:28 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Because parent visibility overrides attachments
16:30 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> I believe the hack for checking object type might actually return false for meshes
16:32 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Non meshes like sprites
16:32 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> I’ll tear apart content cao later
16:37 Wuzzy            ???????????????????
16:37 Wuzzy            wtf?
16:37 Wuzzy            are we talking about the same bug?
16:43 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Yes
16:43 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> The hack kicks in when player mesh is set
16:44 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> Because of the camera being exactly centred on the sprite
16:44 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> It’s effectively invisible
16:45 big_caballito[m] is there a 16px TP that support etheral?
16:45 big_caballito[m] the 32px textures are ugly
18:41 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> local man almost executes a minetestserver on iPhone with emulated x86
18:41 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/769269319439613982/image0.png
18:42 Krock            just a few instructions missing
18:43 Krock            pretty cool tho
18:44 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> considering it's a VM on ARM64V7
18:45 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> if the app actually gets SSE2+ in the VM
18:45 MTDiscord        <10J​ordach> it may actually be possible to properly get Minetest on iOS without the usage of multicraft
19:21 big_caballito[m] perrier: My connection timed out, that's why I left
19:21 big_caballito[m] Is that on my end or yours?
19:40 MTDiscord        <13G​enshin> ?
20:02 Fixer            damn, they dmcaed youtube-dl... wtf
20:02 big_caballito[m] ?
20:03 cheapie          Odds are someone will just fork it and it'll reappear elsewhere. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
20:16 MTDiscord        <04L​one_Wolf> Ouch
20:25 Calinou          you can probably grab it from pip in the meantime
20:25 Calinou          pip install --upgrade --user youtube-dl
20:25 Calinou          that's where I grab it from, so it's always up-to-date
20:25 Calinou          https://pypi.org/project/youtube_dl/
20:25 Calinou          it's with a underscore actually, but both work
20:54 cheapie          Also available here, among other places: http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/y/youtube-dl/youtube-dl_2020.09.14.orig.tar.gz
20:59 Montresor        2020.09.20 is the latest version, however.
23:17 a1fa             hello
23:19 garywhite        hello a1fa
23:21 a1fa             so I made myself a server admin with name = "player_name"
23:21 a1fa             is there anything else that needs to be changed?
23:22 a1fa             but it's not letting me /grantme all
23:23 garywhite        Is there another admin account?
23:24 a1fa             no
23:26 garywhite        hmm, is the server just in singleplayer?
23:27 a1fa             not sure, mineclone2, and creative mode
23:27 a1fa             i see the user_priv table has me as shout
23:27 a1fa             and interact
23:27 a1fa             should i drop admin in there too?
23:28 a1fa             is the format all?
23:30 garywhite        adding the privs priv might solve your problem
23:31 garywhite        since admin isn't a priv in MT afaik
23:32 a1fa             insert into user_privileges (id,privilege) values (30,privs);
23:33 garywhite        worth a try I guess
23:33 a1fa             that did it
23:39 garywhite        hooray
23:41 a1fa             are there any more pre-fabs /spawnstruct to be downloaded?