Time Nick Message 03:05 jas_ main_menu.x.ogg doesn't respect mute_sound=true. good night 10:02 dievri Hello. Based on what minetest decides, if player is newly registered account? 10:04 sfan5 probably whether get_auth returns nil 10:16 jas_ !mod 10:16 MinetestBot jas_: morefaces [morefaces] by Dogzilla131 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3959 10:17 jas_ dead mod :'( 10:17 jas_ !server 10:17 MinetestBot jas_: King of the Hill :: Modern Warfare (CapturePoint) | ratmix.com | Clients: 0/32, 0/3 | Version: 5.2.0 / minetest | Ping: 133ms 13:30 Bombo trying to compile it 13:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04luk3yx -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove null bytes from TOCLIENT_BLOCKDATA (#10433) 1309af0c5 https://git.io/JUVcz (152020-09-26T13:31:54Z) 13:32 eeerungur static_spawnpoint < this sets the default spawn for when someone joins the server right? does it allow people to change their respawn points with beds? 13:32 Bombo does it need LevelDB and Redis and Prometheus and SpatialIndex? 13:33 Bombo the apt install line on https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-5 doesn't instasll these 13:33 sfan5 those are optional 13:34 sfan5 eeerungur: that only applies to new people or when you don't have another spawnpoint (such as a bed) 13:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04BuckarooBanzay -> 03minetest/minetest: Enable LuaJIT on the Docker image (#10414) 139eb4516 https://git.io/JUVcD (152020-09-26T13:32:49Z) 13:34 sfan5 so yes beds will still work 13:34 eeerungur sfan5: thanks for your help. :) 14:01 jas_ !test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhGTFuIStPs 14:09 Krock I can only see lava that might cause slow rendering times there 14:20 jas_ yes thx 14:20 jas_ i didn't notice while recording 14:21 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> What did i miss? 14:22 Krock G​enshin: hopefully me 14:22 Krock jas_: lol ;) 14:22 Krock animated nodes might perform a bit worse 14:22 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Hello Krock, how are things? :) 14:26 jas_ so make lava not animate? 14:29 Bombo is PostgreSQL optional? it uses sqlite anyways? 14:30 heavygale https://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends you can choose what backend you want to use for your server 14:31 Krock hi Genshin. Most is fine - just the weather isn't that motivating. 14:32 Krock Bombo: yes, optional. requires a build that supports it 14:33 Krock check that by running minetest(server) --version 14:33 Krock actually. that might not be listed in the output. hmm. 14:34 Krock ldd minetest(server) | grep sql 14:35 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Weather can be a drag, over here is very hot to go outside, lol 14:56 Bombo -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! 14:56 Bombo just because PostgreSQL Redis Prometheus SpatialIndex 14:57 Bombo what are these for? 14:57 Bombo Krock: are these really optional? 14:59 Krock Bombo: disable them 14:59 Krock perhaps they're enabled by default, so use -DENABLE_POSTGRESQL=0 15:00 Krock or whatever. the exact setting is documented in README.md 15:01 Bombo cmake .. -ENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF 15:01 Bombo hm 15:02 Bombo cmake looks for a file with that name 15:03 sfan5 -DENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF not -ENABLE_POSTGRESQL=OFF 15:03 sfan5 also it would've been useful to say what cmake says before the "Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!" 15:03 Bombo OH ;) 15:05 Bombo no got it the D was missing 15:05 Bombo sorry 15:06 * Bombo watching make 15:13 Krock make -j 16:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MoNTE48 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: replace InputDialogActivity on simple dialog window (#10034) 134298d95 https://git.io/JUw4O (152020-09-26T16:42:22Z) 16:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04EliasFleckenstein03 -> 03minetest/minetest: Patch fast/teleport vulnerability when attached to an entity (#10340) 1365c15e1 https://git.io/JUw43 (152020-09-26T16:41:44Z) 16:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Tyler-2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Log server announce on updates and deletes too (#10177) 13917e357 https://git.io/JUw4s (152020-09-26T16:41:16Z) 17:14 fruitsnack hello, probably not the best place to ask about this, but what's going on with git.minetest.land? 17:14 fruitsnack MineClone2 is hosted there and it's been down for 2 days 17:22 eeerungur fruitsnack: probably unrelated, but i've just noticed my mineclone2 server has crashed. 17:32 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> fruitsnack: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25401 17:34 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> also this reddit post talks about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/izze13/is_mineclone2_having_trouble_any_tips_for_someone/ 19:10 Pie-jacker875 is it possible to define params on worldedit 19:10 Pie-jacker875 I want to set the selection to moreblocks:slab_wood, param2: 20 19:24 Pie-jacker875 how am I supposed to set a region to slabs that are in a certain orientation 19:24 Pie-jacker875 I have yet to find an example of how to do this 19:25 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/ChatCommands.md#param2-param2 19:25 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> That file documents all the commands 19:26 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> Including the one for setting param2 19:26 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> And if there is a command you need and cant find, there is always //luatransform 19:27 Pie-jacker875 how about replace param so it only targets one type of node 19:28 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> at that point you'll probably need to use luatransform 19:28 Pie-jacker875 lol 19:28 Pie-jacker875 so I take it there's no replace mix either 19:29 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> yes, use worldedit addition mod 19:30 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> Here's the luatransform command if you want 19:30 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> //luatransform local name = "moreblocks:slab_wood" local param2 = 20 if minetest.get_node(pos).name == name then minetest.swap_node(pos, {name = name, param2 = param2}) end 19:30 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> https://github.com/sbrl/Minetest-WorldEditAdditions < for replacemix 19:30 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> also adds a lot more helpful commands 19:30 Pie-jacker875 RIP my building 19:30 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> always make backups 19:31 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> nothing in worldedit can be reverted 19:31 Pie-jacker875 at least it was just a single slice of my building 19:32 Pie-jacker875 also thanks for indulging my laziness 19:33 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> wasn't there a mod that added a worldedit //undo at one point? 19:33 Pie-jacker875 I was just reading about that, sounds like there is at least one but it's not entirely reliable 19:34 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> i think lsw had it at one point, i would have to ask ls13/cee-gee about it 19:34 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> https://github.com/HybridDog/we_undo 19:34 MTDiscord <11J​onathon> or there it is 20:37 Bombo how do i make a user an admin again? /grantme all doesn't seem to work 20:38 Bombo 'insufficient permittions' 20:38 Bombo s/tt/ss 20:41 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> hopefully someone can test this https://notabug.org/Genshin/cheat_detection 20:41 Bombo in ~/.minetest/games/ i did 'git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git' then edited 'minetest_game/minetest.conf' added just 'name=bombo' but '/grantme all' didn't work 20:43 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> > hopefully someone can test this https://notabug.org/Genshin/cheat_detection @/g/ what features does it have? like what hacks does it check for? 20:45 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> @oneplustwo So far it can detect: Killaura, Fast dig, instant break nodes, forced fast, forced fly, forced noclip, and jesus walk 20:46 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> what does fast dig do? 20:46 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> i thought unlimited range was solved 20:46 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> fast dig allows you to instantly dig diggable nodes 20:47 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> what about scaffold? 20:47 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Not yet 20:48 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> i mean technically people could have a normal client and just set right_click_repeat to 0.01 20:51 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Also it has a automod feature that allows a server host to enable/disable autoban or autokick when detection found a culprit consistently triggering the following detections 20:52 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> digging fast is different from breaking fast 20:52 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> if a player breaks an obsidian node in under a second using the bare hand, thats an issue 20:52 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Yes, breaking fast allows you to dig unbreakables with anything, even your bare hand 20:52 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> insta break isnt that op 20:53 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> you cant break obsidian with your bare hands 20:53 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> Depends on the game 20:53 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> depends on the dig time 20:53 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> and i think the instabreak is client side only or something 20:53 MTDiscord <11G​reenXenith> Maybe you missed the part where it said "cheat" 20:54 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> well i have a hacked client with instabreak 20:59 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> and i know that if the node takes more than a second to mine, you cant really instabreak it 20:59 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> doubt 21:00 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> also: setting speeds to that wouldn't do anything on right click because of server_step 21:00 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> it'd read rightclick as a single button press due to delayed updates 21:03 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> > also: setting speeds to that wouldn't do anything on right click because of server_step @Jordach still, blocks can be place a lot faster 21:03 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> and? i can click stupid fast 21:03 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> doesn#t change a thig 21:04 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> games that /dont/ use the default Minetest mechanics come out unscathed 21:04 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> well the speed at which you can bridge is similar to the speed at which you can scaffold 21:04 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> which was my point 21:04 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> nerdpoling is the easiest thing on the planet 21:05 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> look down and hold right mouse 21:05 Bombo oh got it it has to go into ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 21:05 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> https://tenor.com/view/picard-double-facepalm-reaction-gif-3521249 21:05 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> you took the gif right out of my mouth 21:06 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> > doubt @Jordach wdym 21:07 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-oh-no-hells-kitchen-no-nope-gif-10726820 21:08 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> i basically wrote a brand new game using the Minetest engine without even touching the standard digging and placing controls at all 21:09 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> the world is used, just as terrain 21:09 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> no survival or crafting 21:09 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> point being? 21:10 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> it's immune to the usual "hacks" 21:10 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> which are nothing more than boring source code edits made by script kiddies like you 21:10 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> tracers? 21:10 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> fullbright? 21:10 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> what is display gamma 21:10 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> HUDbypass? 21:11 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> lol 21:11 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> touché 21:11 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> bypassing the only formspec on join in my game wont do you any good 21:12 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> it's required to actually play the game 21:12 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> so in other words 21:12 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> wait what is your game even for? 21:12 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> https://gfycat.com/timelybrokenbighornedsheep https://gfycat.com/welloffillfatedemperorshrimp 21:12 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Its a first person shooting game 21:13 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> because of the design, i can port it to any game engine that runs Lua due to it's non usage of Minetest related APIs 21:14 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> interesting 21:14 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> client side hacks pose no threat as everything is calculated server side 21:14 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> clients are basically untrusted entirely 21:14 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> freecam? 21:14 Pie-jacker875 wallhacks 21:14 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> fixed in engine today 21:15 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> how is freecam fixed? 21:16 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> im sure its not 21:16 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Wallhacks? You mean no priv noclip? 21:17 Pie-jacker875 pretty sure wallhacks typically means seeing enemies through walls when you shouldn't be able to 21:19 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Pretty sure a detection with raycast would solve that problem 21:20 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> lol 21:20 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> isnt rendering client side? 21:20 MTDiscord <10J​ordach> yes and irrlicht is so crap you might as well write a new minetest client 21:20 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> lol k 21:22 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> i learned programming yesterday so idk 21:23 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifianakis-funny-laugh-laughing-weird-laugh-gif-3547058 21:23 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> yes i opened terminal 21:24 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> then i typed "tree" and then "top" and now i am best hacker in school 21:24 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> how are you gonna get down from there though? 21:24 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> ? 21:26 MTDiscord <04L​one_Wolf> Not a hacker until you can get down without Mr. Incredible 21:27 MTDiscord <12W​arr1024> to be fair down comes from geese, not tree tops 21:28 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> i hacked my school 21:28 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> :(){:|: &};: 21:39 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Tbh I only added strict detection for the following hacks: Killaura, Fast dig, instant break nodes, forced fast, unlimited range, forced fly, forced noclip, and jesus walk. 21:40 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> The rest are pretty minor to even add detection for them. Scaffolding isnt too much of an issue tbh 21:41 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> It doesn't disrupt gameplay in any way 21:48 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> But if people want me to add a detection for it, i'll gladly make one 21:54 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> > The rest are pretty minor hacks to even add detection for them. > > Scaffolding isnt too much of an issue tbh @/g/ depends on the game 21:58 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> @oneplustwo > But if people want me to add a detection for it, i'll gladly make one 23:53 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> happy now? @oneplustwo 23:53 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/759563390909153312/Screenshot_at_2020-09-26_19-53-20.png 23:57 MTDiscord <04o​neplustwo> the council is satisfied with your work. they will now claim credit for it 23:59 MTDiscord <13G​enshin> Repo is AGPLv3