Time  Nick           Message
05:27 hecks          What's a typical map size in GB for a minetest server?
08:22 BuckarooBanzai hecks: depends, can be in the 100's of MB for smaller servers to 100GB+ for big servers
11:46 oil_boi        Is there a setting where I can make players move towards their look direction baked into an override or anything? Like look fly
11:49 sfan5          pitch_move exists but the server can't decide whether it's enabled
11:49 sfan5          would make a lot of sense though
11:52 oil_boi        Damn
16:14 Warr1024       You can probably detect whether the player is using pitch move or not by comparing control inputs with actual motion of the player object over time, but they'd need to be in a situation where they're actively using it, i.e. swimming or flying.  Then, if you detect it, the best you can do is advise them, e.g. pop up a message saying "pitch move is
16:14 Warr1024       recommended for this game; check the key binding menu to see how to toggle it" or something.
16:15 Warr1024       Ultimately how the player's inputs map to the intentions they confer on the player character is a player's decision and games should be limited in what they can mess with, unless they're trying to interfere with the player/character interaction somehow, like a controls reversed "confusion" debuff (which I think MT can't do without some ugly hacks)
16:16 Warr1024       In theory, you could attach the player to an entity and handle all movement controls server-side, like the way vehicles work, but the extra round-trip time from that would be very annoying under normal play.  Maybe there's something a CSM could do better though...?
16:18 Warr1024       There are situations where I'm tempted to mix server-side and client-side control, e.g. have the player get attached for a specific situation and then detached when the special movement is done, but network latency would lead to some jank, and if the movements wouldn't be smooth then I'm better off without them anyway.
16:46 oil_boi        Hm
16:46 oil_boi        I didn't want any lag to cause players problems so I didn't go with pitch move player_acceleration
16:55 MinetestBot    02[git] 04luk3yx -> 03minetest/minetest: Add LevelDB player database (#9982) 13982a030 https://git.io/JfHgG (152020-06-12T16:54:20Z)
19:57 oil_boi        sfan5, https://i.imgur.com/VItRmKc.png
20:12 skyliner_369   minecraft clone in minetest, oil_boi ?
20:12 oil_boi        Kind of, I'm making it the way I want it to be
20:13 skyliner_369   uh huh
20:14 skyliner_369   I'm working on my own mod, actually. The mod's name? simple. Smeltery.
20:14 oil_boi        Working on extreme optimizations and additions for servers
20:14 oil_boi        Very cool
20:15 skyliner_369   Not gonna lie, it's heavily inspired by tconstruct
20:15 oil_boi        Dump it into my game and we'll have Feed the Weast
20:15 skyliner_369   test the feed. XD
20:16 skyliner_369   feed the test
20:16 oil_boi        Very noice
20:16 skyliner_369   something like that.
20:16 skyliner_369   If I were to do something like that, though, it'd be a game and not just a mod(pack) lol
20:17 oil_boi        I was only half kidding, I want to create buildcraft elements, like quarries, because this is going to start as a MC clone and slowly turn into FTB, but you can't have a good game with a bunch of stuff without the core elements polished
20:18 oil_boi        I am building lua methods for ultra extreme optimizations, local elements and pointers so that calculations are as fast as the cpu can push out
20:18 skyliner_369   I'd actually make a few core things. Like fluid cores. Basically, a utility that makes putting fluids in node logic and UIs much easier.
20:19 skyliner_369   in other words, pointing luascripts to libraries written in not lua?
20:20 oil_boi        No, to make local files work from libraries with pointers to allow other files to intercept the data
20:21 oil_boi        Like this https://github.com/oilboi/Crafter/blob/master/mods/new_functions/init.lua
20:21 skyliner_369   ahh
20:26 skyliner_369   I actually know very little about lua... and how mods work. Can one mod basically <hash>include a script from another?
20:26 sfan5          oil_boi: nice
21:21 Wuzzy          skyliner_369: you mean "#include" like in C? In Lua we use "dofile()"
21:22 Wuzzy          I suppose you could theoretically run a script file from another mod... but i thiink this is a very dumb idea because the mod itself usually runs all their .lua files themselves
21:22 Wuzzy          We generally only want to run .lua files within the same mod
21:39 MinetestBot    02[git] 04hoodedice -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Change brake rail to red (#2692) 13d03d7e9 https://git.io/JfHPW (152020-06-12T21:37:23Z)