Time  Nick          Message
00:14 guzzi         how deep do people usually dig?
00:14 guzzi         it looks like minetest goes pretty deep
00:18 nephele       it goes very deep
00:18 VanessaE      it goes down more than 31km below sea level
00:19 guzzi         yeah. i have gone down about 500.  i have mesacons mod.  just looking for those i guess
00:19 guzzi         the pipe mod looks fun too
00:19 VanessaE      I think mese starts below 1000m
00:20 guzzi         I got kinda bored of minecraft. so i came back
00:21 LoneWolfHT    If you get bored of MTG try Nodecore
00:22 VanessaE      bah, all you need it mtg + Dreambuilder ;)
00:22 guzzi         dreambuilder?
00:22 guzzi         nodecore? huh
00:23 VanessaE      Dreambuilder is a massive modpack that I maintain, comprised of lots and lots of popular mods :)
00:24 guzzi         oh damn that looks sick
00:24 guzzi         i am going to boot it up
00:25 VanessaE      enjoy :)
00:35 guzzi         awe sick textures
01:34 EvergreenTree guzzi: do give nodecore a go if you want, it is a lot of fun and quite a change of pace from normal minetest/craft style gameplay
01:36 EvergreenTree also, while dreambuilder is very cool (I play it a lot), it is certainly not the only minetest game worth worth checking out
01:43 MinetestBot   oil_boi: May-22 15:39 UTC <texmex> I like the format of the current videos. Always new features presented, it’s like small gifts each video.
01:51 leo_rockway   greetings, minetesters.
02:01 leo_rockway   oil_boi: hey, spiders attack during the day. Is that intentional?
02:03 oil_boi       leo_rockway, Oh I'll fix that now
02:04 leo_rockway   oil_boi: It makes surviving the first night a lot harder, that's for sure ;-)
02:04 leo_rockway   surviving before the first night, that is.
02:27 oil_boi       Oof and I just finished putting it in
02:31 oil_boi       I dunno I'm just going to throw this on here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9873#issuecomment-632972474
02:32 oil_boi       This stops mobs from being an absolute disaster when you have a farm, yet still keeping in a less annoying form of collision correction
02:57 oil_boi       A*_noprefetc vs A*?
02:57 oil_boi       prefetch**
03:01 Emerald2      Woohoo got to gdb the segfault. https://pastebin.com/zYdRtVEM
03:02 guzzi         evergreentree, checking it out now
03:03 Emerald2      I'm running 5.2.0 from the Ubuntu ppa so not sure why I'm getting this crash.
03:03 Emerald2      New NodeCore server does it reliably tho.
03:04 EvergreenTree Just a warning about nodecore, there is minimal instruction and you are expected to figure things out on your own
03:04 guzzi         np
03:05 Emerald2      Yeah I know. I played it before. Got really stuck on some stuff tho. XD
03:06 EvergreenTree I would say it's sort of comparable to how old DOS point and click adventure games (not in gameplay but in how you're expected to figure things out)
03:06 EvergreenTree s/how//
03:26 oil_boi       Also thanks texmex
03:26 guzzi         evergreentree , latest master just crashes on me
03:27 EvergreenTree Weird.  I haven't updated in a bit so it still works for me
03:27 EvergreenTree I need to go to bed, but I will try to see what's wrong tomorrow
03:37 guzzi         anyone ever have the last 3 rows of inventory disapear on them?
03:38 guzzi         ah i see what the issue is
03:39 guzzi         wierd they are like greyed out now
03:40 guzzi         seems like loading nodecore changed my inventory storage somehow
03:40 Emerald2      NodeCore only has 2 rows of inventory.
03:40 Emerald2      Wait I mean 1.
03:40 guzzi         oh. i removed the nc_ mod folders.
03:40 Emerald2      Good typing me.
03:41 guzzi         how do i get them back?
03:41 Emerald2      It should only effect you when playing NodeCore tho.
03:41 Emerald2      I gotta go do something rn so be back in 5ish.
03:41 guzzi         np
03:46 guzzi         ah yeah i am going to have to purge the sql db i think
03:47 guzzi         how do i reset my world?
03:51 Emerald2      Did you set the world up as a nodecore world?
03:52 guzzi         all i did was do a git clone of your master branch and activate all the mods
03:52 Emerald2      Master branch of what?
03:53 guzzi         https://gitlab.com/sztest/nodecore
03:54 Emerald2      Lemme see if I can get Warr in here. He's the dev.
03:56 guzzi         nah it isn't a big deal.
03:57 Emerald2      You can get NodeCore from CDB, too. Should be basically the same.
03:57 Emerald2      I'd just make a new world, honestly.
03:59 WarrIRC       nodecore is a game, not a mod or modpack
03:59 WarrIRC       so you don't "activate all mods"
03:59 WarrIRC       you have to clone it into games, not into mods
03:59 WarrIRC       if you try to play nodecore and MTG at the same time then I have no idea what will happen, but it probably won't be good
03:59 guzzi         oh
03:59 guzzi         yeah it was bad.
04:00 WarrIRC       CDB would install it in the right place for you if you use the in-game CDB browser
04:00 guzzi         i have a headless server. thus the confusion
04:00 * Emerald2    returns to looking for food. Brain isn't working.
04:01 WarrIRC       hmm, I'd have expected MT not to let you just enable mods that are inside a mods/ subdir like they are in a game ... unless they added recursive search to modpack loading or something
04:01 WarrIRC       The version that's on CDB tracks very closely with what's in git master, so pulling from git master is fine too
04:03 guzzi         i moved them
04:03 guzzi         i am dumb
04:03 guzzi         ok thanks WarrIrc.  Let me blow away this .minetest folder, clone into games and try again tomorrow
04:04 guzzi         afk
04:04 WarrIRC       heh, nodecore was intended to be brain exercise, but not the installation parts :-)
04:05 WarrIRC       If you run into more questions, you can find help in #nodecore.  I'm usually only on IRC via the Discord bridge though.
04:51 oil_boi       texmex, https://youtu.be/l2i6cA1nPJo
04:53 oil_boi       Oh yeah
04:53 oil_boi       !title
04:53 MinetestBot   oil_boi: Crafter - Mob Pathfinding Prototype 1 - YouTube
05:23 liljnc3       hey
05:23 freelikegnu   yo
05:24 liljnc3       hows it going
05:24 freelikegnu   ...
05:37 Emerald2      Segfaults. Segfaults everywhere.
05:39 freelikegnu   and not a drop to drink
06:32 Emerald2      ANAND: it's #nodecore
06:38 ANAND         That's the game's channel
06:43 Emerald2      Isn't that what you wanted? XD
06:43 Emerald2      I guess the new server got a new channel too. He just made it yesterday. XD
08:30 Emerald2      What's the verdict, ANAND?
08:35 ANAND         Dunno, I just found out the line that causes the segfault - Krock said he'll do further testing in minimal.
08:36 deltanedas    is there a way to run a nodes function when a node is placed/broken next to it?
08:36 deltanedas    i want to dis/connect nodes from a network when cable is broken/placed
08:37 ANAND         deltanedas: You could access the nearby nodes using the dug node's on_dig callback
08:38 deltanedas    wow im stupid
08:38 deltanedas    is there an array of directions somewhere or do i have to define it myself
08:39 ANAND         Array of directions?
08:40 ANAND         Get the dug node's pos, add and remove 1 from each of the coordinate to get 6 coords corresponding to the touching nodes
08:42 deltanedas    {{x = -1, y = 0, z = 0}, ...}
08:42 deltanedas    it seems like thats a very common thing
11:23 MinetestBot   02[git] 04Awkor -> 03minetest/minetest: Modernize include guards and add missing ones (#9898) 13037422f https://git.io/JfaGT (152020-05-23T11:23:05Z)
11:25 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sorcerykid -> 03minetest/minetest: Add on_authplayer callback and a last_login parameter to on_joinplaye… 13a976b7f https://git.io/JfaGt (152020-05-23T11:24:06Z)
11:28 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sorcerykid -> 03minetest/minetest: Add on_authplayer callback and 'last_login' to on_joinplayer (#9574) 1315ba75e https://git.io/JfaGc (152020-05-23T11:25:29Z)
12:12 _Zaizen_      Hy everyone I would like to know if there's a way to know the position of a node i've found with raycast. I can't find the appropriate method, maybe it's just that it has a strange name
12:12 NetherEran    raycast:next() gives you a pointed_thing
12:13 _Zaizen_      Yup but I need to know th e position of that node.
12:13 nephele       core.raycast? local node = raycast:next() , and then node["under"]
12:13 NetherEran    ^
12:13 Krock         est31: who has access to f-droid? I thought you redirected me to nerzhul last time https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9839#issuecomment-633032868 ?
12:13 _Zaizen_      Thanks everyone
12:13 nephele       node is a table you can print with minetest.debug(dump2(node)) too to see the full format
12:13 Krock         !next
12:13 MinetestBot   Another satisfied customer. Next!
12:13 est31         hi Krock
12:13 Krock         o/ est31
12:13 est31         Fdroid maintainers have
12:14 est31         (access)
12:14 Krock         does this need a correction? https://dev.minetest.net/Releasing_Minetest#Build_and_Publish_Android_APK
12:15 Krock         Sounds like we should go to #froid directly
12:17 Krock         * #fdroid  without the typo
12:32 Krock         ^ est31 ?
12:33 yrungr        i wonder if you can build minetest for your own phone.
12:33 yrungr        the minetest in the android store is broken.
12:34 Krock         yes
12:34 yrungr        cool.
12:34 Krock         though I don't know what build setup you need to get it working
12:38 blaise        arm crossdev toolchain, or a binmisc qemu chroot
12:42 yrungr        interesting.
12:45 Krock         yrungr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lspXOXNGQ  <-- you now
12:45 blaise        lol
12:47 Krock         (the AMV that uses the song is quite good btw)
12:55 yrungr        weird, youtube seems broken. the page loads, but videos are not loading.
12:55 Emerald2      Is there a way to change the 'player joined the game' and 'player left the game' messages?
12:57 Calinou       they're defined in builtin/ Lua
12:57 Calinou       so yes, but they're defined server-side
12:57 Calinou       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/misc.lua#L45
12:58 Emerald2      Cheers Calinou. Had somebody on discord asking but the people in the know are sleeping. :)
12:58 Emerald2      Could a server owner change them, or no?
12:59 blaise        there is a minetest discord server?
12:59 blaise        :o
13:00 Emerald2      Technically unofficial. Got a buncha new people when the forums were down, because C55 put a link there.
13:00 olliy         mmhmm
13:02 nephele       i think overiding minetest.send_leave_message would be sufficient?
13:02 blaise        surprise
13:09 Emerald2      Hey Krock. Warr is wondering what you meant about a chest and getting a player hand.
13:18 appguru       "i think overiding minetest.send_leave_message would be sufficient?"
13:18 appguru       and minetest.send_join_message, probably
13:19 Krock         Emerald2: the "hand" slot item can be swapped with node inventories
13:20 Krock         though that might be a MT issue that callbacks aren't triggered
13:20 appguru       Is someone working on a fix already?
13:20 appguru       I might be interested in having a try.
13:54 luvo          evening veryone!
13:57 Krock         still afternoon
14:09 luvo          right haha
14:16 luvo          is there anyway of getting more info about the "Collision info missing, this is caused by an out-of-date/buggy mod or game" error?
14:17 luvo          like, what mod? or the only way is uninstalling and installing one by one?
14:17 sfan5         look at the backtrace
15:18 guzzi         nodecore is sick
15:18 guzzi         dreambuilder too
15:18 guzzi         not sure which my daughter will like better, but I am exited to try both.
15:19 guzzi         i setup a world for each. not sure if my little vm can handle both at once but we will see.
16:51 deltasquared  just noticed a 'indexing a nil value' crash in a (possibly older) mod and I noticed it's using self.object:getvelocity() in it's on_step() callback, whereas the lua api documents :get_velocity(). is this a deprecated typo, and if so was it recently changed to return nil at all? from my reading of the line and debugging the entity's self table at the time of the crash, I can't seem to tell what else would be causing it.
16:52 deltasquared  for reference, this is blockmen's pyramids mod, and the offending line is: self.object:setvelocity({ x=self.direction.x*mummy_chillaxin_speed, y=self.object:getvelocity().y, z=self.direction.z*mummy_chillaxin_speed })
16:52 deltasquared  (a tad redundant with the number of calls, but looks otherwise legit, so not sure what's going on here.)
16:53 sfan5         getvelocity is the same as get_velocity just an old name
16:53 sfan5         !mod pyramids
16:53 MinetestBot   sfan5: Pyramids [pyramids] by BlockMen - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7063 - https://github.com/BlockMen/pyramids
16:53 deltasquared  right. I've gotten the error te reliably trigger currently (and yes I've pulled latest), so I'll try adding some asserts.
16:54 deltasquared  the adformentioned line is line 294.
16:54 deltasquared  in mummy.lua
16:54 deltasquared  in case anyone wants to try and beat me to it ;)
16:54 sfan5         https://github.com/BlockMen/pyramids/blob/master/mummy.lua#L207
16:54 sfan5         it should return after removing here
16:55 deltasquared  ... well shoot, I plain skipped over that
16:55 deltasquared  the mummy is trapped in lava too, that would explain it
16:55 deltasquared  (and it'd explain why returning nil. ok, I'll try that just to make sure
16:56 deltasquared  but that does seem likely
17:06 deltasquared  gah. the entity died in lava before I could confirm it, but I'm putting that in anyway.
17:06 deltasquared  thanks for the help sfan5
17:06 sfan5         you're welcome
17:09 SwissalpS     I coloured a homedecor:glowlight_quarter_14, placed it, rotated it a couple times with screw driver; dug it and -> boom server crashed
17:10 sfan5         probably already fixed in 5.3.0-dev
17:11 SwissalpS     tx, server is on 5.2 still
17:48 luvo          Hey, I'm trying to build a server with the --terminal capability
17:49 luvo          but when I compile with `cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 -DBUILD_UNITTESTS=0 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_CURSES=ON`, it keeps saying: -- Could NOT find Curses (missing: CURSES_LIBRARY CURSES_INCLUDE_PATH) \n -- ncurses not found! even though I have all these packages installed: libncurses6:amd64, libncursesw6:amd64, ncurses-base, ncurses-bin, ncurses-term
17:50 luvo          Any idea?
17:50 luvo          I checked the necessary packages for building from source and in the Debian/Ubuntu command, doesn't appear nothing about curses. In fedora/arch it does
17:51 sfan5         what about the -dev package?
17:52 luvo          I tried, but no -dev packages for libncurses6/w6 are found
17:52 luvo          maybe try 5/w5 versions?
17:53 luvo          yep, that's it. With ncurses 5 it works
17:53 luvo          `libncurses5-dev` and `libncursesw5-dev`
17:53 deltasquared  I'll have to remember that one myself.
17:53 sfan5         you reeally just need libncurses-dev
17:53 deltasquared  the ubuntu package is a bit stale, so I've had to build mine locally.
17:54 sfan5         whether that's ncurses 5 or 6 doesn't matter I'd say
17:54 deltasquared  (and no, the snap does NOT count.)
17:54 luvo          oh I see
17:54 luvo          should I create an issue for the package to install in the ubuntu commandline?
19:52 luvo_         So I'm using the signs_lib with street_signs mods in my server. I checked the signs_lib forum post and found about the  ISO-8859-1 support suggested in 2016. I tried the mod but could not display the ñ (using _ instead). Any idea how you work it? cc/ VanessaE
20:06 guzzi         how do i reset my world database?
20:07 guzzi         i copied an existing world and changed the game to nodecraft.  The intial area  now says unknown everywhere.
20:07 guzzi         I just want to reset it
20:08 guzzi         I am using a headless server
20:08 sfan5         rm map.sqlite
20:09 guzzi         ok cool thanks
20:16 rschulman     Is node_io still being worked on? The github repo hasn't seen any action in 2 years.
20:16 rschulman     Could just be that its done, though.
20:53 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimize particlespawner sending by not sending to distant players 1310c3002 https://git.io/Jfa21 (152020-05-23T20:52:21Z)
20:53 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Implement spawning particles with node texture appearance 139d6e7e4 https://git.io/Jfa2M (152020-05-23T20:52:21Z)
21:02 oil_boi       :O :O :O :O :O That is so cool! Now we can have awesome effects! Thanks sfan5
21:04 sfan5         you're welcome
21:07 oil_boi       Does the distant player's particle spawner optimization have a fixed radius?
21:08 sfan5         it uses max_block_send_distance to devide
21:08 sfan5         decide*
21:12 luvo_         Is there anyway of changing the username I have on a public server?
21:13 sfan5         ask the server admin to do it, it is a manual process unfortunately
21:13 luvo_         thx!
21:13 appguru       not a good idea tbh
21:14 appguru       the playername is used as an identifier everywhere - from protections to DMs to mail to whatever
21:16 luvo_         mmm I see...
21:25 oil_boi       Holy crap I can get around the node only particle restriction by creating a node of the food with register_food and create an ungettable node to work from :O
21:26 nephele       oh hi oil_boi :)
21:26 oil_boi       Hi nephele
21:26 who0          Hi Guys, I've just update to 5.2.0 (I cannot open my previous world ... the error is : "Unknown node: doors:door_wood_b_1". Could you help me ?
21:28 sfan5         might be a bug with one of your mods
21:28 appguru       this is probably related to the get_content_id change
21:28 appguru       you now have to call it after the nodes have been registered iirc
21:29 nephele       huh? i've never used that call :g and am on 5.3-dev
21:29 who0          It seems to be reltaive to "mods/handle_schematics/init.lua"
21:29 who0          (just remove this mod and it works)
21:30 sfan5         oil_boi: better yet you can register a node where each of the 6 sides is a different food :D
21:30 oil_boi       A physical texture index, I like it!
21:32 appguru       Dynamic media loading would be nice
22:10 oil_boi       Already taking advantage of it! https://youtu.be/-W4LoA-I0Uw
22:11 oil_boi       Treecapitator has also been updated with it :D
22:14 sfan5         cool
22:52 guzzi         i have a world setup and I switched the creative to true.
22:52 guzzi         I don't see the creative inventory though.
22:52 guzzi         i do have dreambuilder mods on
23:01 guzzi         I also  just tried a fresh world with no mods
23:12 guzzi         i am on 5.2
23:12 guzzi         minetest game
23:19 guzzi         headless
23:24 guzzi         i set it in the world file
23:24 guzzi         i also see the setting in minetest.conf
23:24 guzzi         hh
23:24 guzzi         huh
23:29 guzzi         ah ok. you HAVE to set it in the minetest.conf file
23:29 guzzi         so i created a new one and set the --config switch
23:38 guzzi         well wait. that didn't work
23:38 guzzi         let me see if i messed up
23:41 guzzi         oh i got it somehow
23:41 guzzi         i had to click the chest in smart inventory