Time  Nick       Message
08:26 appguru    Regarding #9903 : I have merged raistlin's branch so that he should appear as co-author
08:26 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9903 -- Properly implement exposing the zoom key by appgurueu
11:33 BruceLee   I need help guys,
11:33 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/mods$ ls
11:33 BruceLee   master.tar.gz minetest_mod_weather
11:33 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/mods$ pwd
11:33 BruceLee   /home/sec/minetest/mods
11:33 BruceLee   So... I've got the weather mod in the right folder
11:33 BruceLee   I've also added load_mod_minetest_mod_weather = true inside world.mt
11:34 BruceLee   But the stupid thing says; 2020-05-21 11:25:27: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "animals" "minetest_mod_weather"
11:34 BruceLee   Is it broken or something now on linux? Worked fine on windows with the gui
11:34 BruceLee   Said weather mod was: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5245
11:34 BruceLee   Any help would be greatly appreciated
11:36 BruceLee   I've also opened a ticket, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24771
11:36 BruceLee   Either I'm missing something the instructions don't provide, or it's just borked on Linux...
11:41 luvo       which version of minetest do you have?
11:42 BruceLee   my client is 5.20
11:42 BruceLee   And the server on linux is
11:42 luk3yx     Are you sure it isn't meant to be called "weather"?
11:42 BruceLee   Uh I don't know how to find out the version of minetest the server is running?
11:43 BruceLee   luk3yx, well how would I know? It never says that in the readme, or on the post?
11:43 BruceLee   That's like the deal, how do are you supposed to know what it is meant to be named if no one tells you in the readme?
11:43 BruceLee   Real newb here, sorry
11:43 BruceLee   I'll try rename the folder inside mods/ to weather and update worlds.mt, sec
11:44 BruceLee   mv minetest_mod_weather/ weather
11:44 BruceLee   Time to update world.mt and see if it works upon reboot
11:44 Emerald2   Normaly the mod folder would have the name of the mod.
11:45 Emerald2   Which usually involves just taking -master off the end, the way they come if I get them straight from github or wherever.
11:45 BruceLee   That's what I did
11:45 BruceLee   I simply removed -master
11:45 Emerald2   Wow it sure got named weirdly in the first place then.
11:45 BruceLee   Nope still didn't work
11:45 BruceLee   I renamed it to weather
11:45 BruceLee   Says /setweather command not found
11:45 BruceLee   Wow, this sucks hard
11:46 Emerald2   What's inside the mod folder itself?
11:46 Emerald2   It's not a folder in a folder is it?
11:46 Emerald2   Like weather doesn't have another weather in it?
11:46 luk3yx     Oh, I see
11:46 BruceLee   /mods/weather
11:47 luk3yx     Is there a mods/weather/weather?
11:47 BruceLee   Inside the mods folder is a folder called weather just like the tutorials on utube show
11:47 BruceLee   Oh I'll have look
11:47 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/bin$ ./minetestserver --config /home/sec/minetest/minetest.conf
11:47 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:44:56: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "animals"
11:47 BruceLee   .__               __                   __
11:47 BruceLee   _____ |__| ____   _____/  |_  ____   _______/  |_
11:47 BruceLee   /     \|  |/    \_/ __ \   __\/ __ \ /  ___/\   __\
11:47 BruceLee   |  Y Y  \  |   |  \  ___/|  | \  ___/ \___ \  |  |
11:47 BruceLee   |__|_|  /__|___|  /\___  >__|  \___  >____  > |__|
11:47 Emerald2   OK and what's inside that weather?
11:47 BruceLee   \/        \/     \/          \/     \/
11:47 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:44:56: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sec/minetest/new-worlds]
11:47 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:44:56: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:8888.
11:47 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:45:26: ACTION[Server]: D [203.160.118.168] joins game. List of players: D
11:47 BruceLee   Er, sorry sec
11:47 BruceLee   awh crap
11:47 BruceLee   There is a weather folder inside the weather folder
11:47 Emerald2   It happens lol.
11:47 BruceLee   So I'll need to make it only one level deep yep?
11:48 Emerald2   Yeah.
11:48 BruceLee   Okay done, time to give it a reboot
11:48 BruceLee   Loading
11:48 BruceLee   Here's hoping
11:49 BruceLee   WTF
11:49 BruceLee   Invalid command
11:49 BruceLee   ...
11:49 luvo       did you change the name in the world.mt file?
11:49 luvo       oh the name was right
11:49 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~$ cd minetest/mods
11:49 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/mods$ ls
11:49 BruceLee   master.tar.gz  weather
11:49 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/mods$
11:49 luvo       ok, ok
11:50 luvo       what's the invalid command
11:50 BruceLee   /setweather anything
11:50 Emerald2   Hmm is that the correct load mod syntax?
11:50 BruceLee   Correct load mod syntax??
11:50 BruceLee   When I launch minetest it no longer says unable to find the mod
11:50 BruceLee   /setweather rain
11:50 BruceLee   /setweather snow
11:51 BruceLee   On the website for the mod
11:51 BruceLee   It says yes you can use /setweather rain or /setweather snow or /setweather none
11:51 Emerald2   <BruceLee> I've also added load_mod_minetest_mod_weather = true inside world.mt
11:51 luvo       and if you enter the world config on the client (the gui) does it say it is enabled?
11:51 BruceLee   Oh
11:51 BruceLee   I think I updated that
11:51 BruceLee   One sec
11:52 BruceLee   For some reason
11:52 BruceLee   It changed load_mod_weather = false
11:52 BruceLee   Instead of true
11:52 BruceLee   I'll try change it to true and do another reboot
11:52 BruceLee   Dude
11:52 Emerald2   Ahh dev wiki says yes.
11:52 BruceLee   it auto changed it to
11:52 BruceLee   Back to = false
11:52 Emerald2   Missing dependency?
11:52 BruceLee   Wtf for
11:53 BruceLee   Nope
11:53 BruceLee   It has none
11:53 BruceLee   Dependencies: none
11:53 Emerald2   Anything in debug.txt ?
11:53 luvo       and the config
11:53 luvo       what does the gui config says
11:53 Emerald2   luvo it's a server, it has no GUI
11:53 BruceLee   I have no gui config luvo this is a vps over putty
11:53 luvo       right haha
11:53 BruceLee   Where would I find debug Emerald2 ?
11:53 luvo       i was thinking in a client world config
11:53 Emerald2   Probably in home/.minetest
11:54 Emerald2   Otherwise locate debug.txt
11:54 BruceLee   Why inside .minetest?
11:54 BruceLee   I'll have a look
11:54 BruceLee   Ah it is there
11:54 Emerald2   idk where yours is, that's where mine is tho
11:55 BruceLee   2020-04-13 07:06:54: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sec/.minetest/worlds/world]
11:55 BruceLee   2020-04-13 07:06:54: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
11:55 BruceLee   2020-04-13 07:06:56: [Main]: INFO: signal_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down.
11:55 BruceLee   That debug looks old
11:55 BruceLee   I run on port 8888
11:55 Emerald2   Yep.
11:55 Emerald2   Is that the last lines of it?
11:55 BruceLee   ./minetestserver --config /home/sec/minetest/minetest.conf
11:55 BruceLee   Yes
11:56 BruceLee   I use /home/sec/minetest not /home/sec/.minetest
11:56 BruceLee   But there is a .minetest folder none the less
11:56 Emerald2   OK so debug.txt in there?
11:57 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:56:27: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "animals"
11:57 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:56:27: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sec/minetest/new-worlds]
11:57 BruceLee   2020-05-21 11:56:27: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:8888.
11:57 BruceLee   Displays no errors
11:57 Emerald2   Which animals mod is it?
11:58 BruceLee   But the world.mt file certainly changes load_mod_weather = true to load_mod_weather = false upon reboot of minetest
11:58 BruceLee   Forget animals mod I've just gotta delete that
11:58 BruceLee   That didn't load either
11:58 BruceLee   So I gave up on that one
11:58 BruceLee   But the weather one should be working
11:58 Emerald2   Are you loading any other mods?
11:58 BruceLee   Nope
11:58 BruceLee   Have not ever been able to ever get one to load
11:58 BruceLee   Not on this linux setup
11:59 Emerald2   luk3yx: ideas?
11:59 BruceLee   Followed the wiki like glue and picked mods with no dependencies
11:59 BruceLee   I had installed minetest orginally with apt-get install minetest
11:59 BruceLee   It never worked so I just compiled one I think
11:59 BruceLee   Hence the run in place one
11:59 BruceLee   I also made the map load from new-worlds instead of just /worlds
12:00 luk3yx     Not really
12:00 BruceLee   But other than that everything is stock and everything should be named correctly, there is no loading error
12:00 BruceLee   Dayum
12:00 Emerald2   Hopefully sfan5 or another dev will come along who can help more. I don't have server hosting experience.
12:01 Emerald2   brb
12:01 BruceLee   description = adds weather using particle system with big particles for big performance
12:01 BruceLee   Okay thanks for your help Emerald2 ;) -- Linux must just be having a hard time with it atm
12:01 BruceLee   That or my configuration is invalid which I can't seem to figure out
12:02 luvo       yesterday I installed from source and cre
12:03 luvo       oops didn't mean to send that
12:04 BruceLee   I don't know why it auto changes from load_mod_weather = true to load_mod_weather = false
12:05 BruceLee   Does the lua.init file inside the mod show you how it calls upon things?
12:05 BruceLee   init.lua = modpath=minetest.get_modpath("weather"),
12:06 BruceLee   So I assume it is looking for a folder inside mods called weather
12:07 BruceLee   When you extract a mod into /minetest/mods you want the folder to appear right?
12:07 BruceLee   Like you don't just extract it all into just the mods directory right?
12:07 BruceLee   Otherwise how would it know its name to load the mod right?
12:10 Emerald2   Wait but you have 2 minetest directories in home you said?
12:10 Emerald2   Is one from apt and the other the compiled one?
12:11 BruceLee   yes
12:11 BruceLee   I have minetest and .minetest
12:13 BruceLee   Should I use apt-get remove minetest ?
12:13 BruceLee   And see if that fixes anything?
12:13 BruceLee   But I don't see how the compiled version wont just look in its own directory
12:13 * Emerald2 shrugs.
12:13 Emerald2   Above my pay grade. :)
12:13 BruceLee   Lol no worries
12:13 BruceLee   I just dont get why people who release mods
12:13 BruceLee   Don't just have them as the name that they should be
12:14 BruceLee   Just adds further stress and confusion
12:14 BruceLee   Heck this weather mods and animals-mods didnt even say what the folder should be named
12:14 BruceLee   Guessing game lol
12:14 luvo       yo used the option to compile in place?
12:14 BruceLee   Don't know...
12:14 BruceLee   Can't remember
12:15 BruceLee   How would I check?
12:15 BruceLee   Does linux have a gui for minetest ? like for server config or nah?
12:16 BruceLee   Wonder if it world work on a vps using vnc
12:16 BruceLee   Probs not
12:16 BruceLee   Man I so dont wanna have to buy a Windows VPS just to add mods to minetest lol
12:17 BruceLee   I'll try on my spare server while I wait, and see if the apt-get version fixes anything
12:18 nephele    you could run the normal version if you really want a gui, it is capable of hosting too, but i don't think many people do that persistently so untested (and also likely much harder to supervise)
12:18 Emerald2   Minetest normally works well on Linux VPSes. Something is just weird on your setup. XD
12:19 luvo       im back
12:19 luvo       I just tested in archlinux, the server from source and the option load_mod_<modname> = true inworlds/world/world.mt
12:19 Emerald2   wb
12:19 luvo       and it worked...
12:19 Emerald2   If you can, just hang around here and somebody should be able to help you.
12:19 nephele    BruceLee, the "compiled" version only checks its own dirs if you set RUN_IN_PLACE when compiling with cmake
12:19 luvo       maybe try to rebuild everythong with the ius in place
12:19 nephele    otherwise it checks in ~/.minetest too
12:20 luvo       oh, the run in place is the key here then!
12:21 BruceLee   Uh
12:21 BruceLee   What command would I run to make it run in place?
12:21 BruceLee   Some sort of cmake --argument?
12:21 nephele    if you already configured with cmake and want a "gui" to set it you can run "ccmake ."
12:21 nephele    which will show you all available arguments
12:21 nephele    otherwise something like cmake -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 . or something
12:22 luvo       cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE
12:22 BruceLee   ccmake not found
12:22 luvo       from the readme
12:22 luvo       only one c
12:22 BruceLee   Ah cmake . works
12:22 nephele    luvo, ccmake is a different tool
12:22 luvo       oh
12:22 luvo       didnt know!
12:22 nephele    i guess ubuntu does not install it with cmake
12:23 BruceLee   I'm on debian
12:23 BruceLee   So I should try cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE
12:23 BruceLee   Correct luvo ?
12:23 luvo       and
12:23 luvo       the server option too
12:23 luvo       by default it is false
12:23 BruceLee   I find that arguments where? On the wiki?
12:23 BruceLee   It wasn't in the loadout of cmake .
12:23 luvo       no no
12:24 luvo       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.md
12:24 luvo       there you can find the arguments
12:24 luvo       search for the build server one
12:24 BruceLee   You can build a bare server by specifying -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE.
12:24 luvo       yep
12:25 luvo       also add the run in place option
12:25 BruceLee   cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
12:25 BruceLee   So it must need this
12:25 luvo       exactly
12:25 luvo       and then make
12:25 BruceLee   Compiling as we speak
12:26 BruceLee   https://pastebin.com/SPmmjtDR
12:26 BruceLee   This was the output of the first command
12:26 BruceLee   The make command should be done in a few mins or less
12:26 BruceLee   Does it matter if minetest is running while I'm compiling?
12:26 nephele    no
12:27 BruceLee   Cool
12:27 BruceLee   -- *** Will build version 5.3.0-dev ***
12:27 BruceLee   Says I'm running that version
12:27 luvo       uh, maybe you should
12:27 luvo       checkout 5.2.0 for a stable version I guess
12:27 BruceLee   Ok
12:27 nephele    if you run -dev expect to do some testing.. :), it's not a release version
12:27 BruceLee   But I can find a link for that where?
12:27 BruceLee   Also
12:28 BruceLee   I can just copy the worlds folder right?
12:28 luvo       no no
12:28 nephele    use "git tag" and then "git checkout <tag>" from that list
12:28 nephele    BruceLee, why are you compiling the game yourself btw?
12:28 nephele    i thought ubuntu had it in it's repo?
12:28 BruceLee   I'm on debian -_- not ubuntu
12:28 BruceLee   The apt-get version I think didn't work properly
12:28 nephele    debian too, i think
12:28 BruceLee   Or there was some reason
12:29 BruceLee   The precompiled version had an issue I think or I couldn't understand it throwing all these files all over the place
12:29 nephele    using ~/.minetest is fine i think, just a slightly different path... seems like kind of a waste to recompile to change that, heh
12:30 BruceLee   It meant all the mods were to be found only in /usr/var/share
12:30 BruceLee   Which only root had access to
12:30 BruceLee   So my normal user would not have access to write in that directory that's the issue
12:30 BruceLee   Since mods go there... I'd have to copy paste as root, which I figured might lead to some permission issues if my lower user is trying to access that mod
12:30 nephele    no, it looks for mods in ~/.minetest/mods
12:30 BruceLee   Oh...
12:31 nephele    unless debian somehow fucked that up
12:31 BruceLee   It never made one
12:31 BruceLee   So I must just have to make one there then
12:31 nephele    yeah, you need to make it yourself
12:31 BruceLee   Okay
12:31 BruceLee   I'll use my brand new server
12:31 BruceLee   To apt-get install minetest
12:31 BruceLee   Then I'll download the mod
12:31 BruceLee   And see how it goes
12:31 BruceLee   Sec
12:31 BruceLee   I can just copy worlds folder over correct?
12:31 BruceLee   From the dev build to whatever build debian has
12:32 luvo       yep
12:32 BruceLee   Thank god
12:32 BruceLee   K sec
12:32 nephele    I don't know, the dev version may not be backwards compatible, but you can try
12:32 BruceLee   Oh god
12:32 luvo       oh true
12:32 BruceLee   I'm gonna go mental if it doesn't work
12:32 BruceLee   We've had 3 users put in so much work
12:32 BruceLee   And that stupid guide said to use dev grrrr
12:32 BruceLee   Sec
12:32 nephele    if you really just copy it should be fine, the original worlds are safe
12:32 nephele    you can always go back to dev if you need
12:33 BruceLee   Dev is sucking if no mods
12:33 BruceLee   Lol
12:33 BruceLee   Se
12:33 nephele    ... what guide recomends to use -dev ?
12:33 BruceLee   Thanks 4 ur help brb
12:33 nephele    release versions are release versions for a reason :D
12:33 BruceLee   Oh I think I know why now
12:33 BruceLee   My minetest version is 2.5.0
12:33 BruceLee   Debian's latest apt-get install version of minetest is lower than that
12:34 luvo       wow
12:34 luvo       hahahaha
12:34 BruceLee   So when connecting it would say Nah bro, different version bruh
12:34 nephele    Ah, yeah then you do need to compile it yourself indeed
12:34 luvo       old stable debian!
12:34 BruceLee   Ok so I've recompiled
12:34 nephele    debian is notorious for package versions from the last century
12:35 BruceLee   Seems to of rebooted fine
12:35 BruceLee   Time to test if weather works
12:35 * BruceLee holds fingers
12:35 luvo       *holding*
12:35 BruceLee   FFS
12:35 BruceLee   Invalid command
12:35 BruceLee   FK my life
12:35 BruceLee   Oh wait
12:35 luvo       hey
12:35 BruceLee   That world.mt might still be on false, sec
12:36 luvo       yeah check it out
12:36 BruceLee   It was on false
12:36 BruceLee   Let me try reboot
12:36 luvo       what command are you running to start the server?
12:36 BruceLee   ./minetestserver --config /home/sec/minetest/minetest.conf
12:36 luvo       you in the bin folder right?
12:37 BruceLee   correct
12:37 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/bin$ ls
12:37 BruceLee   minetestserver
12:37 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/bin$ pwd
12:37 BruceLee   sec@localhost:~/minetest/bin$
12:37 BruceLee   I'll try reboot it now that false = true
12:37 BruceLee   Its changed it back to false the fgt
12:37 BruceLee   load_mod_weather = false
12:37 BruceLee   -_-
12:38 luvo       you using the world from minetest, not .minetest right?
12:38 BruceLee   I'll try compile a lower stable version
12:38 BruceLee   luvo, How would I find out?
12:38 BruceLee   I had to use that syntax to guide it to /home/sec/minetest/new-worlds
12:38 nephele    mv .minetest ~/.minetest-old
12:38 BruceLee   K sec
12:38 nephele    then you can be sure it does not see that folder
12:39 BruceLee   Done deal
12:39 BruceLee   I'll try reboot it
12:39 BruceLee   Works
12:39 BruceLee   Er
12:39 BruceLee   I mean
12:39 BruceLee   It restarted fine
12:40 * BruceLee holds fingers
12:40 BruceLee   Invalid cmd GRRRRR...
12:41 BruceLee   I'll download the mod again into mods
12:41 luvo       is it false again?
12:41 BruceLee   And just remove the words -master nothing else
12:41 BruceLee   yes
12:41 luvo       in the world config?
12:41 BruceLee   yes
12:41 BruceLee   It just auto changes itself from true to false
12:41 luvo       did you changed it before rebooting?
12:41 BruceLee   Might be incorrect mod name for the folder
12:41 BruceLee   Yes
12:41 luvo       mmmm interesting guess
12:41 nephele    turn it off, then change it, and then start again
12:41 luvo       if you wait 30 min I'll try the mod in my server
12:42 BruceLee   Yeah I been doing that nephele ;)
12:42 nephele    hm
12:42 BruceLee   Right now I did ctrl + c
12:42 nephele    Well, i don't know... maybe someone else knows, maybe Krock or sfan5
12:42 BruceLee   nano ../new-worlds/world.mt
12:42 BruceLee   Change it to true instead of false
12:42 BruceLee   So will test this and the other theory
12:42 BruceLee   Thank you guys so much for your help
12:43 luvo       np! sorry for not resolving your problem
12:44 BruceLee   load_mod_weather = true
12:44 BruceLee   load_mod_minetest_mod_weather = true
12:45 BruceLee   Got this so far just to be safe
12:45 luvo       is this one https://github.com/theFox6/minetest_mod_weather right?
12:46 BruceLee   Dunno
12:46 BruceLee   It's this one https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5245
12:46 BruceLee   2020-05-21 12:46:03: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "animals" "minetest_mod_weather"
12:46 BruceLee   So I know it cant be called minetest_mod_weather
12:46 BruceLee   I'll try see if it works now
12:46 BruceLee   If it doesn't I'll compile a stable version not dev
12:47 BruceLee   Invalid command fml JUST WANTED SOME RAIN screw you linux
12:47 BruceLee   Lol
12:47 BruceLee   Okay time to find a stable .tar.gz of minetest
12:50 BruceLee   Wonder if I should compile from source or use the buster version hrm
12:51 BruceLee   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/stable-5.zip
12:52 BruceLee   cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
12:53 luvo       im on pc now, let me try the mod
12:53 BruceLee   make No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop
12:53 BruceLee   er whoops wrong directory lol
12:53 luvo       hahaha
12:53 BruceLee   I hope this works
12:53 BruceLee   cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
12:54 BruceLee   Ffs
12:54 BruceLee   cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
12:54 BruceLee   No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found.
12:54 BruceLee   Gotta be kidding me
12:54 BruceLee   -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
12:54 luvo_      woops
12:54 luvo_      mmm
12:54 BruceLee   I have cmake installed I just installed it
12:55 BruceLee   It's the same server and os version I have on my working debian server wtf...
12:55 BruceLee   Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment
12:55 BruceLee   variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path
12:55 BruceLee   to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH.
12:56 BruceLee   I'll have no idea where that is, as it never has asked before
12:56 BruceLee   God sake all a man wants to do is minetest up large with a few mods, fuck you linux lol
12:56 * BruceLee googles
12:56 luvo_      strange...
12:56 luvo_      hey BruceLee you using the minetest_game for the server?
12:57 luvo_      or other game?
12:57 BruceLee   Ah I need g++
12:57 BruceLee   luvo_, What do you mean?
12:57 BruceLee   Oh yey!
12:58 luvo_      show me your line in minetest.conf with "default_game ="
12:58 BruceLee   I fixed the compile issue
12:58 BruceLee   I need g++ not just gcc
12:58 BruceLee   Sec
12:58 BruceLee   # default_game = minetest
12:58 BruceLee   Commented
12:58 luvo_      mmm
12:59 luvo_      uncoment and change minetest with minetest_game
12:59 BruceLee   Why is that? I don't think I have minetest_game I think this is just a server copy
12:59 BruceLee   I dunno
12:59 BruceLee   But I'll try that
12:59 luvo_      oh, you must be using the minimal version
13:00 BruceLee   All I know is
13:00 BruceLee   I load minetest.net
13:00 BruceLee   I go to downloads
13:00 BruceLee   Source code
13:00 BruceLee   Get the latest stable or development source code from GitHub.
13:00 BruceLee   You will probably want Minetest Game as well. Put the game in your games directory.
13:00 BruceLee   I click on the stable link
13:00 BruceLee   Takes me here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/stable-5
13:00 BruceLee   I click on clone or download
13:00 BruceLee   Right click Download ZIP
13:01 BruceLee   Hit copy link and use wget thatlink in terminal to download it
13:01 luvo_      clone this https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git into the games/
13:01 BruceLee   Dunno how I never use github I just prefer wget
13:01 BruceLee   But okay I'll install git or whatever it is
13:01 luvo_      mmm
13:01 BruceLee   And what directory do I put it into?
13:01 luvo_      games/
13:01 BruceLee   I need to still change the .conf to minetest_game yes?
13:02 BruceLee   What command do I use to clone that link?
13:03 BruceLee   git is already newest
13:03 BruceLee   Oh wait
13:03 BruceLee   Inside games
13:03 BruceLee   there is a minetest_game
13:03 BruceLee   and a minimal folder already
13:03 BruceLee   luvo_,
13:04 BruceLee   Inside games
13:04 BruceLee   there is a minetest_game
13:04 BruceLee   and a minimal folder already
13:04 BruceLee   I've changed the normal default_game
13:04 BruceLee   Lets see if this works
13:04 BruceLee   Seems to of loaded fine
13:04 luvo__     the command exists for me
13:04 BruceLee   Time to test the cmd bet it wont work
13:05 BruceLee   invalid cmd FML
13:05 BruceLee   What command works for you?
13:05 appguru    you have minetest_game stored twice I bet
13:05 BruceLee   I never set it up
13:05 luvo__     the /setweather command
13:05 appguru    once in a protected installation folder somewhere in usr/share
13:05 BruceLee   appguru, Probably why?
13:05 appguru    because MT is bundled with MTG
13:06 BruceLee   It is compiled as run in place shouldn't it look here and nowhere else?
13:06 appguru    A run in place
13:06 BruceLee   luvo__, What did you name the mod to inside mods ?
13:06 luvo__     I just cloned the mod
13:06 luvo__     and then move the weather folder into the mods/ folder
13:07 BruceLee   So you downloaded the mod like I did
13:07 BruceLee   Extracted it
13:07 BruceLee   cd'd into its directory
13:07 luvo__     so I have mods/weather/init.lua
13:07 BruceLee   Moved weather into /mods/weather
13:07 BruceLee   Yeah
13:07 BruceLee   appguru, So I need to remove minetest_game somewhere else?
13:07 BruceLee   I'll start with apt-get remove minetest
13:07 luvo__     yeah
13:07 luvo__     try that
13:07 BruceLee   minetest is not installed
13:08 BruceLee   Seems I already have
13:08 BruceLee   And /usr/share has no minetest in it
13:08 luvo__     do you have the .minetest folder still or did you renamed to .minetest-old?
13:08 BruceLee   I renamed it
13:09 BruceLee   Things just glitched out I think
13:09 BruceLee   No idea why
13:09 BruceLee   Will try to compile the stable version
13:09 BruceLee   Dev must just be rooted
13:09 BruceLee   What version of minetest did u use luvo__ ?
13:09 blaise     could someone help me with something completely unrelated ?
13:10 BruceLee   CMake Warning at src/CMakeLists.txt:55 (message):
13:10 BruceLee   cURL is required to announce to the server list
13:10 luvo__     I used 5.2.0 from the source
13:10 BruceLee   I've totally got curl installed
13:10 BruceLee   I've no idea why identical systems are having different errors, thats impossible
13:10 luvo__     identicals systems different servers?
13:10 blaise     I need help identifying the movie clip at 8 minutes 30 seconds in this yt video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4pxw4tYeCU
13:10 BruceLee   Well identical works
13:11 BruceLee   I wget the .zip, unzip it...
13:11 blaise     where the guy explodes at the snap of a finger
13:11 BruceLee   cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
13:11 BruceLee   It gets mad and says no curl here bro
13:11 luvo__     so which curl works right?
13:11 BruceLee   curl is already the newest version (7.64.0-4+deb10u1).
13:11 BruceLee   apt-get says yup installed
13:11 BruceLee   compiler says cant find it bro
13:11 BruceLee   God sake -_-
13:12 Calinou    there are multiple libcurl versions
13:12 Calinou    try installing libcurl4-openssl-dev
13:12 Calinou    if that doesn't work, try libcurl4-gnutls-dev
13:12 Calinou    (be careful, installing those might remove packages! Review the apt output carefully)
13:12 Calinou    they will conflict with each other IIRC
13:13 BruceLee   Didn't work
13:13 BruceLee   I'll try the other
13:13 BruceLee   Didn't work either
13:13 BruceLee   For fuck sake cant a man get a break *Sigh*
13:13 luvo__     It's so strange dude
13:14 BruceLee   I've got gcc installed I've got g++ installed, I've got cmake installed, I'm using the right commands, I'm building from source, I have the latest stable zip release
13:14 BruceLee   I'm doing it all right and nah bro don't wanna work fer you...
13:14 * BruceLee bangs head
13:14 luvo__     hahaha
13:14 BruceLee   You should pastebin every command you type start to finish luvo__
13:15 BruceLee   I'll emulate that
13:15 BruceLee   Start from scratch and scoop it out of your bash_history
13:15 luvo__     allright
13:15 BruceLee   Use pastebin
13:15 BruceLee   This way I should be able to replicate your setup 100%
13:17 BruceLee   I just can't believe this I really cant lol
13:18 BruceLee   Here is what I get https://pastebin.com/7zrYLXBa
13:18 BruceLee   When trying to compile with cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=TRUE -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
13:19 BruceLee   -- *** Will build version 5.2.0 ***
13:19 BruceLee   Any ideas?
13:19 BruceLee   The pastebin link is there
13:19 luvo__     https://pastebin.com/vsv2igzY
13:20 BruceLee   Cheers luvo__ will try replicate
13:20 luvo__     oh you have a problem
13:21 BruceLee   Two by the looks of it
13:21 luvo__     did you run this command? sudo apt install g++ make libc6-dev libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng-dev libjpeg-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev libgmp-dev libjsoncpp-dev
13:21 BruceLee   Nah
13:21 luvo__     thats from the minetest readme
13:21 BruceLee   Ah was just going there now
13:21 BruceLee   K will try this
13:21 BruceLee   K done
13:21 BruceLee   I will re-try
13:21 BruceLee   Worked now
13:21 BruceLee   Phew
13:22 BruceLee   Now I'll run make
13:22 BruceLee   In your pastebin you put mv minetest_mod_weather/weather/
13:22 BruceLee   That would do nothing
13:22 luvo__     oh is missing a .
13:22 luvo__     at the end
13:22 luvo__     mv blablabla .
13:22 luvo__     to move the actual mod folder to mods/
13:22 BruceLee   You didn't name it . though did you
13:23 BruceLee   Oh right
13:23 BruceLee   You are moving it upper a directory yes
13:23 BruceLee   Sorry
13:23 BruceLee   Alright
13:23 luvo__     yep
13:23 luvo__     haha
13:23 texmex     That feeling when a brand new rig with beefy GPU barely produces 60 fps in MT… xD
13:23 BruceLee   One moment
13:23 luvo__     you sure you are running the server with the gpu?
13:24 luvo__     or client, to be specific
13:24 BruceLee   No idea
13:24 BruceLee   I just ran git clone https://github.com/theFox6/minetest_mod_weather.git
13:25 BruceLee   okay weather is now inside /mods
13:25 luvo__     cool
13:25 BruceLee   I'll have to copy my world over with wget
13:25 BruceLee   One moment
13:25 luvo__     wait
13:25 luvo__     what if you create a new world for testing
13:25 BruceLee   Pointless, I'd need it to work on my old world
13:25 luvo__     with a random name and it will not be modified
13:26 BruceLee   I'll just put the copied world in the stock world folder on the new installation
13:26 luvo__     that's the thing, it must be a problem with the name form somewhere
13:26 texmex     luvo__: Me? Yes. No iGPU present.
13:26 luvo__     oh...
13:29 BruceLee   Question
13:29 BruceLee   Am I meant to use the worlds in .minetest for this new server
13:29 BruceLee   Or worlds in the directory I compiled in
13:29 BruceLee   Do I have to set it in the config ?
13:30 luvo__     as you compiled with run in place I guess only worls in the current ~/minetest/worlds folder
13:30 BruceLee   it never made one probs coz i never started it yet
13:30 luvo__     the directory you compiled
13:31 BruceLee   so will just wget my worlds directory sec
13:32 BruceLee   World transferred
13:32 BruceLee   Now...
13:32 BruceLee   load_mod_weather =true should already be config'd
13:32 BruceLee   Awh shit
13:33 BruceLee   I did git clone and everything as root
13:33 luvo__     ooops
13:33 BruceLee   Hope that doesnt give a permission error to the lower user
13:33 BruceLee   will it?
13:34 BruceLee   I'll delete it all and restart
13:34 BruceLee   Yeah rm gave perm denied
13:34 BruceLee   So probs was the issue
13:34 BruceLee   Time to check
13:36 BruceLee   Okay compiling now as low level user
13:36 BruceLee   Extracted the stable.zip as low level, compiling as low level user
13:40 BruceLee   I wonder if grabbing the old worlds might eff it up
13:40 BruceLee   We'll see
13:41 luvo__     check the owner of ht eold owrlds
13:43 BruceLee   -rw-r--r--
13:43 BruceLee   for worlds .tar.gz
13:46 BruceLee   sec sec owns it
13:46 BruceLee   So it looks ok
13:53 BruceLee   93% nearly done compiling
13:57 BruceLee   Subgame specified in default_game [minetest] is invalid
13:57 BruceLee   luvo__, Did you get that compiling form source?
13:58 luvo__     yeah
13:58 luvo__     is in games minetest_game
13:58 BruceLee   So do I need to put the path in it?
13:58 luvo__     no no
13:58 luvo__     the name
13:58 BruceLee   Okies
13:58 luvo__     show your games folder
13:58 BruceLee   huh
13:59 BruceLee   it only says minimal
13:59 BruceLee   So the stable branch doesn't come with minetest_game only minimal
13:59 BruceLee   but the dev branch did come with minetest_game and minimal lol
13:59 luvo__     yeah, you have to clone it too
13:59 luvo__     as before
13:59 BruceLee   er, clone what bro?
13:59 BruceLee   I only ever used clone once for the mod
14:00 BruceLee   git clone https://github.com/theFox6/minetest_mod_weather.git
14:00 BruceLee   Never cloned 'minetest_game'
14:00 BruceLee   So I'd clone minetest_game into /games then?
14:00 luvo__     yep
14:00 luvo__     exactly
14:00 BruceLee   And if so where do I download it then
14:01 BruceLee   Links on website don't show em
14:01 BruceLee   Bit stupid really
14:01 ANAND      github.com/minetest/minetest_game
14:01 BruceLee   See I never use github and haven't seen any documentation to point me to that
14:01 BruceLee   Thanks ANAND ;)
14:02 ANAND      Cheers :)
14:02 BruceLee   git clone github.com/minetest/minetest_game -- Does not exist FATAL
14:03 BruceLee   Must need to find out what the .git end part is
14:03 luvo__     no no
14:03 luvo__     add the .git
14:03 BruceLee   Found it
14:03 luvo__     github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git
14:03 BruceLee   https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git
14:03 luvo__     exactl
14:03 BruceLee   Yep, sec
14:03 BruceLee   Okay done
14:03 BruceLee   Worlds are over
14:03 BruceLee   Game is compiled
14:03 BruceLee   That new one is in there
14:04 BruceLee   Now it should load in theory
14:04 luvo__     do you own everything?
14:04 BruceLee   Must do
14:04 luvo__     with your user I mean
14:04 luvo__     ok
14:05 BruceLee   You are about to join this server with the name D for the first time if you proceed a new account usring ur creds will be created,
14:06 BruceLee   Passwords do not match
14:06 BruceLee   I'm guessing it wants me to configure minetest.conf
14:06 luvo__     mmmm
14:06 luvo__     that's your old world right?
14:06 BruceLee   ah minetest.conf.example
14:06 BruceLee   Yes
14:06 BruceLee   But new minetest
14:07 BruceLee   Imported world from another server
14:07 BruceLee   Into a new minecraft
14:07 BruceLee   On a new server
14:07 luvo__     can you copy the minetest.conf too?
14:07 BruceLee   So will have to reconfigure the .conf
14:07 BruceLee   Er I suppose
14:07 BruceLee   Sec
14:10 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:10:01: ERROR[Main]: Error writing configuration file: "/home/sec/minetest/new-worlds                                                                      /world.mt"
14:10 BruceLee   Will need to change the directory name
14:10 BruceLee   map-dir = /home/sec/minetest/worlds
14:10 BruceLee   Save it
14:11 BruceLee   Wtf
14:11 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:11:15: ERROR[Main]: Error writing configuration file: "/home/sec/minetest/worlds/world.mt"
14:11 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:11:15: ACTION[Main]: Server: Shutting down
14:11 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:11:15: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Failed to initialize world
14:11 BruceLee   Why the fuck not
14:11 BruceLee   Might be permissions
14:13 BruceLee   Wtf it lets me save to the .mt world
14:13 BruceLee   But the program wont read write to it??
14:13 BruceLee   What in the actual phuck
14:13 BruceLee   Seriously the dev3.0 branch is so different that a copied world just won't work with version 2.5.0 ? What a nightmare
14:14 nephele    replacing a file is different to reading and writing permission in unix, anyway, calm down! :D
14:14 BruceLee   What do you mean?
14:14 BruceLee   I can read the file in nano
14:14 BruceLee   I can write to the file in nano
14:14 BruceLee   Thus the application should be able to write to it too? No?
14:14 nephele    in that case it clearly is not a permission error but something else
14:14 BruceLee   It's easy to say be calm but when you've spent hours on it
14:15 BruceLee   Erm...
14:15 BruceLee   Hrmm
14:15 BruceLee   New server, new source, new compile process, imported world in, doesn't load world...
14:15 nephele    yes, it is easy to say calm down, if you work on it for hours and just get more frustrated taking a break is a good thing to do, it won't run away :)
14:16 luvo__     thats soo true
14:17 BruceLee   Oh
14:17 BruceLee   I think I know why
14:17 BruceLee   It is looking in /home/sec it is meant to look into /home/anothername
14:17 BruceLee   One moment
14:17 luvo__     can you show a ls -l worlds/<yourworld>/world.mt?
14:17 luvo__     oops
14:18 BruceLee   The part where you asked me to copy minetest.conf made my brain ignore that fact lol
14:18 BruceLee   Lets see if this works
14:18 BruceLee   Woot woot it loaded!
14:18 BruceLee   Time to see if the mod works
14:18 luvo__     what did you change?
14:19 BruceLee   Nope mod doens't work
14:19 BruceLee   Fuck sake it's busted
14:19 BruceLee   Two servers proved it doesn't work
14:19 BruceLee   Two different minetests compiled from source
14:20 luvo__     can you do the following
14:20 BruceLee   Throw it in the trash I give up
14:20 BruceLee   Yes?
14:20 luvo__     ls -l worlds/<yourworld>/world.mt
14:20 nephele    take a break, if it does not work, as in the mod, you would get an error, not it beeing disabled :D
14:20 luvo__     ls -l worlds/weather/
14:21 BruceLee   Wait
14:21 luvo__     *waiting*
14:21 BruceLee   Why would you ever do ls -l worlds/weather it doesn't go in there lol
14:21 luvo__     no no sorry
14:21 luvo__     ls -l mods/weather
14:21 luvo__     haha
14:21 luvo__     myb
14:21 luvo__     my bad
14:22 BruceLee   Oh shit
14:22 BruceLee   I haven't even wget'd the mod in there yet odd
14:22 BruceLee   Lol
14:22 BruceLee   Sec
14:22 BruceLee   I'll just use git clone https://github.com/theFox6/minetest_mod_weather.git
14:22 luvo__     hahahhahaha
14:23 luvo__     same as before: clone, mv folder/subfolder .
14:24 BruceLee   yup
14:24 BruceLee   Invalid command /setweather
14:24 BruceLee   Oh well guess it just doesn't work
14:25 BruceLee   Oh I better check if false isn't set again
14:25 luvo__     yeah
14:25 luvo__     hahaha
14:25 * BruceLee kills process && makes it set to true
14:25 BruceLee   I still think it will just go back to false because it's just stupid
14:25 luvo__     how do you do that?
14:25 luvo__     the action haha
14:25 BruceLee   You just use /me
14:25 luvo__     oh
14:25 BruceLee   load_mod_weather = true
14:25 BruceLee   Is actually there
14:25 * luvo__   thats cool
14:25 BruceLee   It isn't changing this time
14:26 luvo__     can you check the debug.txt
14:26 luvo__     file
14:26 luvo__     in minetest/ folder?
14:26 BruceLee   Yeah
14:26 BruceLee   It just says it starts fine
14:26 luvo__     no errors no warnings?
14:26 BruceLee   No errors
14:26 luvo__     did you changed the default_game in minetest.conf?
14:27 luvo__     because it gives me this warning: 2020-05-21 15:21:39: WARNING[Main]: Mod name conflict detected: "weather"
14:27 luvo__     2020-05-21 15:21:39: WARNING[Main]: Will not load: /home/luvo/git/minetest-testing-server/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/weather
14:27 luvo__     2020-05-21 15:21:39: WARNING[Main]: Overridden by: /home/luvo/git/minetest-testing-server/bin/../mods/weather
14:27 luvo__     it seems there is a mod in minetest_game with the name weather
14:28 BruceLee   so I must edit minetest.conf again
14:28 BruceLee   And what line do I change again?
14:28 luvo__     default_game = minetest_game
14:28 luvo__     should be commented
14:28 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:24:19: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/hidden/minetest/worlds]
14:28 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:24:19: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest_game" listening on 0.0.0.0:8888.
14:28 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:24:41: ACTION[Server]: D [*.*.*.*] joins game. List of players: D
14:28 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:25:23: [Main]: INFO: signal_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down.
14:28 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:25:23: ACTION[Main]: Server: Shutting down
14:28 BruceLee   Ah okay you told me to uncomment it on the last one but ok
14:28 BruceLee   One sec
14:29 luvo__     ok it seems fine
14:29 BruceLee   It said default_game = minetest_game
14:29 BruceLee   Now I've put a comment in front of it
14:29 BruceLee   Just started it up
14:29 BruceLee   No errors
14:30 BruceLee   Invalid command
14:30 BruceLee   God damn I'm over this
14:31 BruceLee   That's 3 hours work with no success period
14:31 BruceLee   Two different servers
14:32 BruceLee   Two different minetest versions
14:32 BruceLee   If I ever setup a windows server
14:32 luvo__     I had 0 problems with everything working great at the first time..
14:32 BruceLee   I can just copy the linux worlds into it right?
14:32 luvo__     no idea
14:33 luvo__     what world does it select?
14:33 luvo__     when you launch the server?
14:33 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:29:52: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest/worlds]
14:34 luvo__     mmm
14:34 luvo__     isn't it missing the world name?
14:34 BruceLee   I think so
14:34 luvo__     I got this:  [/home/luvo/git/minetest-testing-server/bin/../worlds/world]
14:34 BruceLee   But it only asks for the directory
14:34 BruceLee   Oh
14:35 BruceLee   I only copied the world into /worlds
14:35 BruceLee   so it needs to go inside /worlds/world
14:36 luvo__     try this ./bin/minetestserver --world ./worlds/world/
14:36 luvo__     yep
14:36 BruceLee   I'm just gonna dump the world into /worlds/world
14:36 Krock      *reads logs*
14:36 luvo__     ok
14:37 luvo__     *krock to themself* what a long log...
14:38 Krock      >it auto changed it to
14:38 Krock      11:52 		Back to = false
14:38 Krock      shut down Minetest and Minetestserver
14:38 Krock      change the value
14:38 BruceLee   I have done so
14:38 Krock      start Minetestserver
14:38 BruceLee   Just always goes back on the old one :)
14:38 BruceLee   I only ever execute minetestserver
14:38 Krock      no, there was another instance running in the background
14:38 BruceLee   Hrm let me go see
14:39 Krock      Minetestserver does not modify that file except when you're doing backend migrations
14:39 BruceLee   htop seems to say no
14:39 BruceLee   1 sec
14:39 Krock      load_mod_* = v  is modified by the Main Menu and manual editing
14:40 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:40:44: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest/worlds]
14:41 BruceLee   Shouldn't it be /home/sherbet/minetest/worlds/world
14:41 luvo__     mmm still not the world name
14:41 BruceLee   I'll edit minetest.conf
14:41 luvo__     no no
14:41 luvo__     what was your command to run server
14:41 luvo__     thats the one
14:41 BruceLee   map-dir = /home/sherbet/minetest/worlds
14:41 BruceLee   in the .conf
14:41 luvo__     mmm
14:41 BruceLee   I was just using ./minetestserver
14:41 luvo__     what if you do
14:41 luvo__     cd ~/minetest; ./bin/minetestserver --world ./worlds/world/
14:41 luvo__     try that
14:42 Krock      --wordpath
14:42 BruceLee   No such file
14:42 Krock      nvm, worldpath was never merged
14:42 luvo__     --world should do the trick
14:42 BruceLee   I'll just go to the bin folder
14:42 luvo__     can you do ls worlds?
14:42 BruceLee   And tell the app itself to parse that
14:42 Krock      why is your minetestserver in bin/?
14:43 BruceLee   wait hold on
14:43 Krock      why is it in out home?
14:43 luvo__     he compiled from source
14:43 Krock      *is it in your
14:43 BruceLee   There is minetest-stable-5 and actual another minetest folder
14:43 Krock      well, did you set RUN_NI_PLACE=1?
14:43 luvo__     xD
14:43 BruceLee   Yes
14:43 luvo__     what a mess
14:43 Krock      so ar so good
14:43 BruceLee   But that minetest only has worlds in it
14:44 BruceLee   I'll delete that minetest folder
14:44 luvo__     you may delete that folder
14:44 luvo__     yeah
14:44 BruceLee   No idea why that's there
14:44 BruceLee   right...
14:44 BruceLee   cd minetest-stable-5
14:44 BruceLee   cd bin
14:44 BruceLee   ./minetestserver
14:44 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:44:39: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest/worlds]
14:44 BruceLee   So I must edit that in the .conf file
14:45 luvo__     what the heck
14:45 luvo__     hahahah
14:45 luvo__     you have ~/minetest and ~/minetest-stable-5?
14:45 BruceLee   No
14:45 BruceLee   Just minetest-stable-5
14:45 BruceLee   I deleted ~/minetest
14:45 luvo__     oh
14:45 luvo__     ok
14:45 Krock      naming does not matter for RUN_IN_PLACE binaries
14:45 BruceLee   map-dir I've added the full path
14:46 Krock      it just has to have all files in the right subdirectories
14:46 luvo__     so this is the correct minetest directory right? with the bin/minetestdir and worlds and mods ?
14:46 luvo__     bin/minetestserver sorry
14:46 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:46:13: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest/worlds/world]
14:46 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:46:13: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:8888.
14:46 BruceLee   Seems to of fixed it the edit in minetest.conf
14:46 luvo__     gameid=minetest mmmm
14:46 luvo__     what do you have in games?
14:46 Krock      minetest and minetest_game will both load the same game
14:46 luvo__     oh this is the one downloaded from .zip or something like that right?
14:47 luvo__     oh ok
14:48 BruceLee   games folder has minetest_game && minimal
14:48 BruceLee   wtf
14:48 luvo__     and worlds/ and mods/ are correct?
14:49 BruceLee   Why did it create another ~/minetest again stuff off and die I never put that there
14:49 luvo__     uh
14:49 Krock      see folder structure here: https://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
14:49 BruceLee   Okay so everything should be fine in theory
14:49 Krock      BruceLee: please upload the output of minetestserver --version
14:49 luvo__     maybe because that bin/minetestserver is not created in run_in_place?
14:50 Krock      luvo__: ninja'd
14:50 BruceLee   One moment Krock
14:50 BruceLee   I will pastebin it
14:51 BruceLee   Krock, https://pastebin.com/7Nhddcv8
14:51 BruceLee   That is the output
14:51 luvo__     oh come on whut
14:51 luvo__     its run in place
14:51 luvo__     it has no sense
14:51 Krock      okay, at least the build params are correct
14:51 luvo__     yeah xD
14:51 BruceLee   That's what I'm saying
14:51 BruceLee   It's like the software is broken or something
14:52 BruceLee   Two different compiles from source
14:52 BruceLee   Two different servers
14:52 BruceLee   Same mod
14:52 BruceLee   Same result
14:52 BruceLee   And yet you think yours magically worked when two others didn't?
14:52 BruceLee   Doesn't make no sense
14:53 luvo__     you know what I would do?
14:53 BruceLee   No idea
14:53 luvo__     delete everything related to minetest
14:53 luvo__     and clone again into ~/minetest
14:53 luvo__     everything from the start
14:53 BruceLee   I've already done that
14:54 BruceLee   The only thing I brought over from the old install was minetest.conf && my world
14:54 luvo__     but you have had like 3 folders of minetest
14:54 BruceLee   It was set back to false again
14:54 BruceLee   I've set it to true this time
14:54 BruceLee   No errors
14:54 BruceLee   Time to load it and see what happens
14:55 BruceLee   Should be sweet as !
14:55 BruceLee   Invalid command?
14:55 BruceLee   Are you shitting me...
14:55 BruceLee   Bah I give up
14:55 BruceLee   Piece of junk
14:55 luvo__     what if you delete the world, delete the minetest.conf and run the minetestserver
14:55 BruceLee   Ok, sec
14:55 luvo__     would you like for me to try your world?
14:56 BruceLee   if I delete the minetest.conf it won't work you know that right?
14:56 BruceLee   I'll have to edit the example, so sec
14:56 luvo__     would'nt it?
14:57 luvo__     why?
14:57 BruceLee   Didn't work before when the .conf wasn't there
14:57 BruceLee   Unless, diff params, I'll have a look
14:57 BruceLee   Renamed minetest.conf
14:57 BruceLee   Will delete worlds folder
14:58 BruceLee   Emptied /worlds/world folder
14:58 luvo__     no problem running minetestserver without minetest.conf
14:58 BruceLee   Ah it works this time
14:58 BruceLee   The server did boot
14:58 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:58:19: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../worlds/world]
14:58 BruceLee   2020-05-21 15:58:19: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
14:59 Krock      > [...]/minetest-run/bin$ ./minetest --server --worldname mtg_dummy  # works for me just fine
14:59 BruceLee   Ah
14:59 BruceLee   Can't get in
14:59 BruceLee   Says I gotta enter a password
14:59 BruceLee   And says Invalid pass
14:59 BruceLee   So it means I need a .conf file with a pass in it
14:59 Krock      no
14:59 luvo__     you have a different folder of minetest now?
14:59 luvo__     oh its krocks's
14:59 luvo__     sorry
14:59 Krock      change or wipe auth.txt
14:59 BruceLee   No luvo__ lol
14:59 BruceLee   Ah ok sec Krock
14:59 Krock      or auth.sqlite3 if that exists
15:00 Krock      or whatever else you use to keep the auth for players
15:00 BruceLee   is auth.sqlite3 in the worlds folder?
15:00 BruceLee   I mean I know the pass lol
15:00 BruceLee   I'll have a look
15:00 BruceLee   auth.sqlite found
15:00 luvo__     you can delete it and create a new password in the client
15:00 BruceLee   I removed auth
15:01 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:01:11: [Main]: Automatically selecting world at [/home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../worlds/world]
15:01 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:01:11: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../worlds/world]
15:01 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:01:11: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
15:01 Krock      looks good
15:01 BruceLee   Fail
15:01 BruceLee   It just says
15:01 BruceLee   Same thing
15:01 BruceLee   Please enter a pass
15:01 Krock      yes
15:01 Krock      enter a pass
15:01 luvo__     you can enter a dummy pass
15:01 BruceLee   Ah okay done it
15:02 BruceLee   Invalid command setweather
15:02 BruceLee   Yep doens't work
15:02 BruceLee   My privs are insuffient
15:02 luvo__     is worlds/world/world.mt mod set to true?
15:02 BruceLee   Maybe that could cause it? But I doubt it
15:02 luvo__     but it exists?
15:02 BruceLee   Are you kidding me dude
15:02 BruceLee   That got deleted like you said
15:02 BruceLee   worlds/world/* ALL REMOVED
15:02 luvo__     the new world
15:02 Krock      who said that?
15:02 luvo__     that the server created
15:03 luvo__     should be there
15:03 BruceLee   Oh
15:03 luvo__     in worlds/world
15:03 BruceLee   I'll have a look
15:03 Krock      luvo__: depends. might only be written when the server closes
15:03 BruceLee   Krock, -- luvo__ Told me to just delete my world and .conf because they were the only parts that had been exported into the system
15:03 luvo__     oh, interesting
15:03 BruceLee   Ctrl + C is how I kill it
15:03 BruceLee   Let me go look
15:04 BruceLee   No idea why it has made another folder called minetest again
15:04 BruceLee   I'll just ignore it
15:04 Krock      maybe a bug
15:04 BruceLee   With the 2.5.0 stable version? Odd
15:04 Krock      weird version
15:04 BruceLee   It's the offical release from minetest's website lol
15:05 Krock      I think you meant 5.2.0
15:05 BruceLee   Er ah yeah
15:05 BruceLee   My bad it's like 2am and I've spent like 4 hours on this
15:05 Krock      cannot reproduce your issue. it's 5 PM here
15:05 Krock      ;)
15:05 BruceLee   I've reproduced it twice on two different servers lol
15:05 BruceLee   I'll put it on film tomorrow if ya like :D
15:05 Krock      I think you mean "today" since it's already a new day
15:06 BruceLee   Nah I consider the night still the night
15:06 Krock      of the previous day
15:07 BruceLee   Anyway
15:07 BruceLee   That doesn't matter
15:07 BruceLee   Hrmm
15:07 Krock      whatever. see ya somewhen again? Maybe you can find a solution easier later
15:07 BruceLee   Windows worked fine
15:07 BruceLee   Linux never loads any modules
15:07 Krock      things get really annoying and confusing when the brain is working at 50% and wants to shut off
15:07 luvo_      no ~minetest folder created for me when running/shutting down the server
15:08 BruceLee   All I seem to do is, wget the latest copy, compile it, wget the mod, extract it into /minetest/mods and copy a world over, it loads the world says no errors about the mods, but the command never works, Two servers showed me that
15:08 BruceLee   And twas two different versions
15:08 BruceLee   One was a dev build
15:08 BruceLee   And this other one is a stable build
15:08 * BruceLee shrugs
15:08 BruceLee   So when you say it works for you, I'm sorta like thinking well, that's weird as heck
15:09 luvo_      xD
15:09 luvo_      hahahhaha
15:10 Krock      luvo_: Press Alt + F4 to unlock the hidden TicTacToe game in HexChat
15:10 luvo_      xD
15:11 BruceLee   You know I'm not stupid right?
15:11 BruceLee   Ctrl + w might work better
15:11 BruceLee   load_mod_weather is back to false
15:11 nephele    Krock, but my hexchat is on desktop2
15:11 BruceLee   Even on this copy
15:11 BruceLee   That was the new world it made
15:11 Krock      everything fails when there's an Linux user that remaps the keybinds and Hexchat that's asking before quit
15:12 BruceLee   Just HexChat asking are you sure? Is enough lol
15:12 Krock      no more Alt+F4 tricking
15:12 Krock      there's a checkbox to disable the dialogue, which would make it work
15:12 Krock      nephele: well then Alt + Tab until it's the right window
15:12 BruceLee   load_mod_weather = true
15:13 BruceLee   Time to fire it up and logically it should work
15:13 BruceLee   Wow
15:13 BruceLee   It says
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Mod name conflict detected: "weather"
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Will not load: /home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/weather
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Overridden by: /home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../mods/minetest_mod_weather/weather
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Mod name conflict detected: "weather"
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Will not load: /home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../mods/minetest_mod_weather/weather
15:13 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:13:07: WARNING[Main]: Overridden by: /home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../mods/weather
15:13 Krock      ..
15:13 Krock      issue fixed in 4 .. 3 ...2
15:13 luvo_      oooh
15:14 luvo_      it works now!
15:14 luvo_      it is loadint then!
15:14 luvo_      right?
15:14 BruceLee   Yes it works
15:14 BruceLee   I just don't have any permissions haha
15:14 luvo_      wohoooo
15:14 BruceLee   Now...
15:14 luvo_      what did you do?
15:14 BruceLee   I just need to figure out what I did before...
15:14 luvo_      xD
15:14 luvo_      hahahha
15:14 Krock      ofc he changed nothing
15:14 BruceLee   I set the world to true
15:14 BruceLee   And for some reason it just worked now
15:15 luvo_      the world to true?
15:15 luvo_      what is that magic?
15:15 BruceLee   You know what I mean
15:15 BruceLee   world.mt load_mod balh blah = true
15:15 BruceLee   You know what I mean
15:15 BruceLee   Now
15:15 BruceLee   Time to go back to my other version
15:15 luvo_      >minetest.conf
15:15 BruceLee   And try see what it'll complain about
15:15 luvo_      >world_work = true
15:16 Krock      >solve_world_hunger_problems = true
15:16 luvo_      this should be added to the documentation smh
15:16 BruceLee   So question
15:16 BruceLee   If I copy a world over
15:16 BruceLee   What command do I use to load that world guys?
15:17 luvo_      you can use
15:17 luvo_      ./bin/minetestserver --world /path/to/the/world/folder/
15:17 Krock      ./minetestserver --worldname guys
15:17 BruceLee   Krock, and it'll look in /worlds/world right?
15:18 Krock      if  [minetestserver bin path]/../worlds/guys/  exists, Yes.
15:18 BruceLee   Okay I will copy from Server A to Server B my world and try load it
15:18 Krock      if it does not work: check your directory structure with this here: https://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
15:21 BruceLee   Should it be in /worlds/guys or in /worlds/world/guys ?
15:21 luvo_      the first one
15:21 luvo_      worlds/guys
15:21 luvo_      in guys should be the world.mt file and everythingelse
15:22 BruceLee   https://pastebin.com/zRH8MftL
15:23 Krock      so far so good
15:23 BruceLee   ./minetestserver --worldname guys
15:23 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:23:21: ACTION[Main]: World at [/home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/bin/../worlds/guys]
15:23 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:23:21: ACTION[Main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
15:24 BruceLee   So lets test
15:24 BruceLee   Oh ah invalid pass lol
15:24 BruceLee   I'll have to delete auth agian
15:24 BruceLee   Oh no wait it worked now
15:24 BruceLee   Now
15:24 BruceLee   Lets see if the mod works
15:24 BruceLee   Invalid command WTF
15:24 BruceLee   It was just working
15:24 BruceLee   Why is my world not allowing it to work wtf
15:25 luvo_      maybe compare world.mt form your world and guys?
15:26 BruceLee   (The one that works)
15:26 BruceLee   /home/sherbet/minetest-stable-5/worlds/world
15:26 BruceLee   (The one that works has a file called weather in it)
15:27 BruceLee   The one I just copied over does not (my old world called guys)
15:28 BruceLee   All that is inside it is one line
15:28 BruceLee   return {["wind"] = {["y"] = 0, ["x"] = 0, ["z"] = 0}, ["type"] = "none"}
15:28 BruceLee   I'll try compare the world.mt
15:28 BruceLee   Here is the working world.mt file https://pastebin.com/5zj9HAaq
15:29 luvo_      you can remove that file
15:30 luvo_      the weather file I mean
15:30 luvo_      I guess is some kind of default or something
15:30 BruceLee   YEY!
15:30 luvo_      what
15:30 BruceLee   I think I made it work now!
15:30 luvo_      wohoo
15:30 luvo_      nice!
15:31 luvo_      everything cool now?
15:31 BruceLee   Erm
15:31 BruceLee   The command does not return anything
15:31 BruceLee   Like /setweather works
15:31 BruceLee   But nothing happens lol
15:31 BruceLee   Did urs work?
15:31 luvo_      what are you using
15:31 luvo_      yes it did work
15:31 luvo_      show me the command
15:31 luvo_      the setweather command complete
15:32 BruceLee   I type /setweather rain
15:32 luvo_      try /setweather without anything else
15:32 luvo_      or write /help setweather
15:32 BruceLee   Says available weather types
15:32 BruceLee   none,
15:32 BruceLee   weather:snow
15:32 luvo_      you need the weather:rain
15:32 luvo_      yep
15:32 BruceLee   Oh
15:32 BruceLee   So it must be
15:32 luvo_      you need the weather: too
15:32 BruceLee   So I must do /setweather weather:rain ?
15:32 luvo_      exactly
15:33 BruceLee   His documentation is wrong then hahaha
15:33 BruceLee   Let me try
15:33 BruceLee   YAY!
15:33 BruceLee   It works :D FK YEAH
15:33 luvo_      the documentation is outdated I think
15:33 BruceLee   Cheers boys
15:33 luvo_      yeeeaaah
15:33 luvo_      congrats man
15:33 BruceLee   Thank fudge
15:33 BruceLee   That was like...
15:34 BruceLee   4 or 5 hours lol
15:34 BruceLee   Thanks heaps guys!
15:34 luvo_      you can sleep peacefully now
15:34 luvo_      np man
15:34 BruceLee   Hard
15:34 BruceLee   One last thing though
15:34 BruceLee   I downloaded a mod right
15:34 BruceLee   And it said
15:34 BruceLee   The name is invalid upon loading or what not
15:34 BruceLee   Found out
15:34 BruceLee   You can't have . in the mods folder name
15:34 BruceLee   but I never could actually figure out what the mod should be called
15:34 BruceLee   One sec
15:35 luvo_      oh hyou had the name?
15:35 luvo_      you had .weather or something like that?
15:35 BruceLee   https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=629
15:35 BruceLee   [Modpack] Animals Modpack [2.5] -- 2.6 approaching
15:37 BruceLee   Extracted it says animals_modpack-2.5.0
15:37 BruceLee   If I try load a mod called that
15:37 luvo_      that's a modpack, I think it should be moved directly to mods/animals+modpack-2.5.0
15:37 BruceLee   It'll say we only support [0-9][a-z]
15:37 BruceLee   Or something like that
15:37 BruceLee   and wont load the mod
15:38 luvo_      change the folder name
15:38 BruceLee   To anything??
15:38 BruceLee   Will that work?
15:38 luvo_      to animals
15:38 luvo_      for example
15:38 luvo_      wait a sec
15:38 BruceLee   Ok
15:38 BruceLee   I'll kill the server... Update the world.mt to animals, and change the folder to animals, re-start the server, and should work yep?
15:39 luvo_      ok!
15:39 luvo_      try
15:39 luvo_      never installed a modpack though
15:40 BruceLee   Server is killed
15:40 BruceLee   load_mod_animals = true
15:41 BruceLee   world.mt saved
15:41 BruceLee   Time to boot er up
15:41 BruceLee   2020-05-21 16:41:14: ERROR[Main]: The following mods could not be found: "animals"
15:41 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: minetest-stable-5$ls mods
15:41 BruceLee   animals  animals_modpack-2.5.0.zip  minetest_mod_weather  mods_here.txt  weather
15:41 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: minetest-stable-5$
15:41 BruceLee   even though 'animals' is clearly there
15:42 luvo_      checkout https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/basics/getting_started.html#mod-packs
15:42 luvo_      the thing is, animals is not a mod. it is a modpack
15:42 BruceLee   On windows I remember just slamming it in there, and it worked
15:42 BruceLee   Hrmmm
15:42 BruceLee   Maybe it was a diff mod then
15:42 BruceLee   I'll look for animals mod
15:42 luvo_      and it seems it doesn't have the modpack.lua
15:42 luvo_      create that one inside the animals folder
15:43 luvo_      and then create a pastebin with ls mods/animals please
15:43 BruceLee   So create modpack.lua and leave it blank
15:43 BruceLee   I'll pastebin the ls now
15:43 luvo_      yeah
15:45 BruceLee   https://pastebin.com/U055whG0
15:45 BruceLee   There you go luvo_ :)
15:45 luvo_      ok, try it!
15:45 luvo_      and lets see
15:45 BruceLee   Could not be found 'animals'
15:47 BruceLee   Dunno why it hasn't been deleted off the minetest website if it doesn't work
15:47 BruceLee   But that thing you said about a modpack might work diff than a mod
15:47 BruceLee   I had that mod on windows though, just copied it into 'Mods' Enabled it in the gui and boom
15:48 BruceLee   Linux just seems to ignore it and be like nah bro it aint there lol
15:48 luvo_      mmmm
15:48 luvo_      maybe you used a different version in windows
15:48 luvo_      and this mod seems outdated sins 2018...
15:48 luvo_      so maybe the modpack.txt where there for previous versions
15:48 BruceLee   Both versions were 5.2.0
15:48 luvo_      oh really?
15:48 luvo_      mmmm
15:48 BruceLee   Yar
15:49 BruceLee   Well you've all been amazing, much love, thanks everyone for your patience
15:49 BruceLee   I really appreciate it
15:49 luvo_      no problem :)
15:49 BruceLee   I'll come back tomorrow when I can't fix this animals mod
15:49 BruceLee   And I'll try get some animals in there
15:49 luvo_      hahahha
15:49 BruceLee   Coz my gf loves em and wants em in there lol
15:50 luvo_      ok!
15:50 BruceLee   I did it once on Windows so now it means I gotta make it work on linux or else lolol
15:50 BruceLee   Night guys! :) Thanks
15:50 luvo_      night!
16:03 BruceLee   Since I have no minetest.conf
16:03 BruceLee   How do I set the port it listens on?
16:03 luvo       your sleep good?
16:03 luvo       hahaha
16:03 BruceLee   It's the last piece I need lol
16:03 BruceLee   For tonight
16:04 luvo       you can copy the example to minetest.conf
16:04 BruceLee   Maybe just try copy the example
16:04 BruceLee   Okies
16:04 luvo       and modify only the port
16:04 luvo       yep
16:04 BruceLee   Cheers
16:04 luvo       you should modify also the name to your admin user in the server
16:04 luvo       to be able to give/remove people privileges
16:05 luvo       ir is that on the world config? don't know atm
16:05 BruceLee   Yeah I'm gonna do that now
16:05 BruceLee   It's in the .conf
16:06 BruceLee   Woot woot it worked
16:06 BruceLee   Thanks mate
16:06 BruceLee   Night night
16:06 luvo       night night!
16:07 BruceLee   Erm
16:07 BruceLee   I set the admin nick to D
16:07 BruceLee   Joined as D
16:07 BruceLee   Still says I have insufficient priv o_O
16:07 BruceLee   But I know its reading minetest.conf coz the port changed
16:08 luvo       do this
16:08 luvo       write /admin
16:08 luvo       and tell me the outout
16:08 BruceLee   I put three admin names in tho
16:08 BruceLee   It might be why
16:08 luvo       output*
16:08 BruceLee   In the game?
16:09 BruceLee   the guys folder magically moved to the bin folder too
16:09 BruceLee   Lol weird
16:10 luvo       wth
16:10 luvo       yeah in the game
16:10 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: bin$ls
16:10 BruceLee   guys  minetest  minetestserver
16:10 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: bin$pwd
16:10 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: bin$
16:10 luvo       weird
16:10 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: bin$ls ../worlds
16:10 BruceLee   guys  world
16:10 BruceLee   sherbet@localhost: bin$
16:10 BruceLee   Yeah weird as
16:10 BruceLee   Must be stable 2.5.0 has a bug or something
16:10 BruceLee   Sec
16:10 luvo       didn't happen to me...
16:10 luvo       haha
16:12 BruceLee   The admin of this server is D
16:12 luvo       ok so now use
16:12 BruceLee   Oh now it works
16:12 BruceLee   Odd
16:12 BruceLee   I changed it from 3 nicks to just 1
16:12 BruceLee   Meh lol
16:12 luvo       BruceLee,  /grantme <priv>
16:12 BruceLee   Must of only liked 1 admin
16:12 BruceLee   I did /grant D all
16:12 BruceLee   But I guess /grantme all
16:12 BruceLee   Might work too
16:12 BruceLee   Haha night man!
16:12 luvo       hahahaha
16:13 luvo       night man
16:13 Krock      BruceLee: your minetest.conf has the following line:  "name = D"
16:14 BruceLee   yup
16:14 BruceLee   It works now Krock
16:14 BruceLee   I just couldnt get the animals-modpack to work
16:14 BruceLee   Syas animals not found
16:14 appguru    you guys are going to like where #9907 is going
16:14 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9907 -- Shaders as media files by appgurueu
16:14 BruceLee   But I will ask for help tomorrow ;)
16:18 BruceLee   Thank u all so much -- Just had to say it coz u guys deserve it -- So much thanks! :D -- Ok I really am going now night lol
18:01 SX         hello everyone, simple question: is there callbacks available in core or default minetest game when wielded item changes? didnt find anything from API reference but thought that I ask here as sometimes correct thing is hard to find
18:23 yrungr     i'm aware of using lua to manipulate the blocks in the map, but has anyone heard of command line tools that interact with the map.sqlite directly?
18:26 yrungr     https://github.com/random-geek/MapEdit aha
18:27 yrungr     ok. this looks fun. :)
18:35 rschulman  What do people think is the "best" mapgen algorithm?
18:36 Krock      rschulman: singlenode
18:36 Krock      infinite potential for Lua mapgens
18:37 rschulman  :)
21:17 Emerald2   Bruh. What was BruceLee's issue in the end?