Time  Nick          Message
00:04 rubenwardy    what for?
00:35 frabbit       rubenwardy: what do u mean with what for?
00:46 rubenwardy    frabbit: are you talking about codes to verify the downloads?
00:46 rubenwardy    they're downloaded over HTTPS
00:46 rubenwardy    there's your cert
06:58 luvo          about my yesterday problem I found a mod by BlockMan in GitHub (https://github.com/BlockMen/invtweak/) that maybe can help me find the way of comparing to itemstacks! I'll keep you posted
07:02 luvo          yesterday, sfan5 was talking about this I think https://github.com/BlockMen/invtweak/blob/master/init.lua#L208: the get_wild_index method. I'll check more in-depth this time
08:15 MinetestBot   oil_boi: May-13 21:30 UTC <texmex> The pigs are getting more boar-like with each iteration. Love it!
08:15 oil_boi       Thanks texmex, 22i has created all the mobs I want to use, and blockmen has a perfect ghost model so there is no longer any need to pull my hair out learning blender
08:17 oil_boi       Also, I'd like to ask, does automatic_face_movement_dir  use -math.pi to math.pi or 0 to math.pi*2 ?
08:24 oil_boi       Oooh no, I just tested it, it's not looking good, it's -math.pi/2 to math.pi*1.5
08:39 oil_boi       Easy fix body_yaw = self.object:get_yaw()-math.pi/2
08:57 oil_boi       Also I found that set_bone_position with {x=0,y=0,z=0} or nil as the position completely destroys the local location of the bone :L
10:31 sfan5         !tell oil_boi you might wanna enable deprecated_lua_api_handling = log while developing, there's quite a few deprecated calls in Crafter that should be replaced
10:31 MinetestBot   sfan5: I'll pass that on when oil_boi is around
10:53 MinetestBot   oil_boi: May-15 10:31 UTC <sfan5> you might wanna enable deprecated_lua_api_handling = log while developing, there's quite a few deprecated calls in Crafter that should be replaced
10:55 oil_boi       Ooo, thanks
11:17 oil_boi       sfan5, I see in this line https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4767 it requires "name", what exactly is that referring to?
11:18 sfan5         e.g. minetest.get_mapgen_setting("mgv7_flags")
11:18 oil_boi       Ahh, ty
11:19 oil_boi       Aw man, still returns nil with https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4775 "mgv7_flags"
11:20 sfan5         you wouldn't use it with mgv7_flags
11:20 sfan5         but e.g. mgv7_np_dungeons
11:20 sfan5         (take a look into map_meta.txt)
11:23 oil_boi       Holy crap we can directly access the mg settings now that's crazy
11:24 sfan5         btw
11:25 sfan5         https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1042418/82045239-09700180-96af-11ea-9e6d-09d7a5b12841.png
11:25 sfan5         https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1042418/82045242-0d038880-96af-11ea-8a7a-c8dde15680a2.png
11:25 sfan5         do you see a difference here and which do you prefer?
11:35 oil_boi       Number 2 seems to have better color and shadows
11:37 sfan5         the colors are exactly the same but yeah I agree
11:38 oil_boi       It looks more alive, also the saturation seems to look better even though the colors are exactly the same, shadows have that effect
11:38 oil_boi       Is this an upcoming merge?
11:39 sfan5         just a different default value for a setting we've had since 2016
11:39 oil_boi       How would I try this in my own client?
11:39 sfan5         ambient_occlusion_gamma = 1.4
11:43 oil_boi       https://i.imgur.com/Z6MZL3J.png 0.25 https://i.imgur.com/rQpNIqt.png 1.4
11:45 oil_boi       Err, 0.25 = default, this is 0.25 https://i.imgur.com/ikaJWNg.png
11:45 sfan5         0.25 is a bit extreme yeah
11:50 oil_boi       It looks like an ENB
12:01 oil_boi       Hopefully this gets rid of most of the deprecated calls and the Aether, Void, and Nether now have seeds that match the world generation, or completely random if fails
12:01 oil_boi       https://github.com/oilboi/Crafter/commit/269bce7c4c3d21206f3d0ba51b3967338ad45e70
12:04 sfan5         with mob spawning disabled it gets a lot harder to find food
12:05 sfan5         or is that because I ran /clearobjects?
12:08 oil_boi       No spawning is disabled currently, I'm completely rewriting everything in the api to make mobs actually intelligent and use pathfinding, also going to implement a global mob table so that spawning gets disabled once a certain amount of mobs are loaded based on the number of players currently in the game
12:09 oil_boi       You gotta make a farm for now
12:16 sfan5         >stone how is made from stone not cobble
12:16 sfan5         ????
12:16 sfan5         hoe*
12:22 oil_boi       Whoops, welp that's fixed now
12:23 * oil_boi     wonders if the hoes break too fast
12:24 oil_boi       also sfan5 if you'd like to test the head tracking you can do /spawn creeper or /spawn pig or even /spawn phyg
12:25 sfan5         looks its working
12:25 sfan5         it walks in circles and directly looks at me for half the circle
12:25 oil_boi       You might have to git pull and you must have the server privelage, they kinda just go in a circle for now
12:25 oil_boi       W000
12:25 sfan5         you added mob spawners for dungeons yet?
12:29 luvo          > it walks in circles and directly looks at me
12:29 luvo          that's a little creepy
13:02 oil_boi       sfan5 just wait until they have pathfinding, then you're really gonna think they're creepy
13:03 oil_boi       Also no, I was trying to find a way to bake that into the engine dungeon spawning, maybe a decoration?
13:05 sfan5         not sure that would work
13:05 sfan5         https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/dungeon_loot/mapgen.lua
13:13 luvo          hahahahahaha
13:15 luvo          I feel like a kid watching two adults talk
13:35 oil_boi       Well good! Programming should be fun
13:42 luvo          it is, for sure!
13:45 texmex        oil_boi: You're adding uphill water streams now? :)
13:50 oil_boi       texmex uphill waterstreams?
13:51 texmex        Ah no, it was just https://i.imgur.com/ikaJWNg.png looking like it when in fact it was the rain.
13:52 oil_boi       Hahaha, that might be possible actually
13:52 texmex        Yes, just spawn some individual water nodes into stone, I guess.
13:53 texmex        On that note, how do you feel about stream water eroding the top grass layer so that hills don't get overflown by water?
13:54 texmex        Basically this thing http://g.recordit.co/zxJRNB8141.gif , instead of this thing https://i.imgur.com/MHkQcdo.jpg
13:55 luvo          it looks interesting texmex
13:57 texmex        I've always wanted a decorations-like node placement function but in 3D instead of topview 2D. Basically it would be nice to be able to "place water in stone, with air neighbour nodes in horizontal direction" and you'll target vertical surfaces etc.
13:57 texmex        Would certainly be useful in this case, but other cases too ofc.
13:58 oil_boi       That might eat up a bit of CPU, but I can try to make it efficient, how is that done? I couldn't find a way for a "on_construct workaround" to implement something like that for lava cooling
13:59 sfan5         on_flood exists, but it doesn't get called for air
14:00 sfan5         so what you *could* do is register an airlike node that is always placed above lava, this node will then have its on_flood called which you can use to implement lavacooling
14:00 sfan5         it's not a very good workaround tho
14:03 oil_boi       I just wish there was a way to hook into the liquid flow algorithm, or to have it done in c++, so that when the liquid flows, it will call the on_flow function, but I do not know how that code works so I could be misinterpreting it
14:03 texmex        The gif is made with this old geezer https://github.com/tacotexmex/floodables
14:04 texmex        It makes the node floodable, which is of course destructive when applied to normal water but perhaps hill streams could be made of a special water node.
14:05 oil_boi       Hmmm, very interesting implementation, what if the water itself was floodable?
14:06 ANAND         I remember reading somewhere that setting liquids as floodable would cause issues
14:06 NetherEran    imma try out quickly what actually happens
14:06 ANAND         :D
14:07 texmex        Remember safety glasses
14:08 luvo          and mask... at least this days
14:09 texmex        sfan5: Why even fake air? Why not just a certain logic when the on_flood runs? The on_flood doesn't even have to flood the floodable necessarily.
14:10 sfan5         on_flood of what exactly? it is only called when liquid replaces a node that is not air
14:14 oil_boi       huh self.object:get_texture_mod() is a nil value
14:16 texmex        Uh, right. Lava is liquid too xD
14:16 texmex        Too slow in the head.
14:17 NetherEran    ok I tried it
14:17 NetherEran    I instantly caught fire
14:18 NetherEran    Actually I didn't notice a difference
14:23 texmex        Seems like on_flood calls are not executed when applied to liquids.
14:26 ANAND         That's interesting
14:26 ANAND         Here's the warning: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L7182
14:26 ANAND         Probably outdated
14:32 texmex        Would be useful to be able to define what specific liquid a node was to be floodable by.
14:33 texmex        …but that can probably be baked into the on_flood function itself.
14:33 ANAND         Yeah
14:37 yrungr        is it correct that a minetest server only runs on a single core, but can use threads?
14:40 sfan5         not exactly
14:40 sfan5         (depending on what exactly you mean by that terminology)
14:41 sfan5         The main business of a server happens in a single thread but Minetest makes use of multi-threading for e.g. map generation and loading the map from disk.
14:41 yrungr        gotcha.
14:41 yrungr        thanks sfan5.
14:46 oil_boi       Oof oof oof
14:48 _Zaizen_      Hi everyone I'm having a little bit of troubles with entities. I want to be able to spawn an entity with some properties and after that spawn the same entity but this time i've changed some properties. the problem is that if i change the properties in the register entity it changes the properties of all enemies included the ones already spawned of that type.
14:48 _Zaizen_      Does anyuone have an idea on how to handle this problem?
14:51 NetherEran    In the on_activate callback you can do a local props = self.object:get_properties() and change what you want to change. Then you can self.object:set_properties(props) to apply the changes.
14:53 _Zaizen_      Thanks for the suggestion, I will try this and see if it works for what I have to do.
15:09 Miniontoby    hello
15:09 Miniontoby    hows it going guys?
15:11 luvo_         Hello!
15:12 Miniontoby    hey
15:12 Miniontoby    https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3905&p=372834#p372834
15:12 Miniontoby    I need help
15:13 Miniontoby    plz someone
15:14 Miniontoby    who knows to what channel rubenwardy's servers are connected to
15:15 * ANAND       hides
15:15 Miniontoby    lol
15:15 oil_boi       sfan5 I thought you'd like this https://youtu.be/H1E-CPS4X94?t=157
15:15 * Miniontoby  will roll a dice
15:16 ANAND         Ho ho ho, that's sweet!
15:17 Miniontoby    wowo
15:17 sfan5         oil_boi: just like in the old days :D
15:18 * Miniontoby  subscribed
15:18 ANAND         > phyg
15:19 ANAND         !! :O
15:19 Miniontoby    back
15:19 * Miniontoby  Gooit een dobbelsteen met 6 vlakken en krijgt 4
15:20 * Miniontoby  roll a dice
15:20 * Miniontoby  Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 5
15:20 luvo_         lol, that creeper is a catapult
15:20 Miniontoby    yes
15:20 Miniontoby    lol
15:20 Miniontoby    yes
15:20 oil_boi       sfan5 Yeah :D  I'm sure there's a way to create stages for the flashing to happen faster as it ticks down
15:20 Miniontoby    a kind of like angrybirds
15:20 oil_boi       luvo_ creeperpult!
15:20 Miniontoby    lol
15:21 Miniontoby    but can anyone help me with https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3905&p=372834#p372834
15:21 Miniontoby    I want  to let it be working
15:21 Miniontoby    it is on an rpi
15:22 Miniontoby    I have my own local irc server
15:22 Miniontoby    where I want it to be connected to
15:22 Miniontoby    and if I buy a server then thats inpossible
15:23 Miniontoby    lol
15:23 Miniontoby    /cycle is funny
15:23 Miniontoby    need to stop for now
15:24 oil_boi       toby noooo it was right here https://github.com/minetest-mods/irc#installing
15:24 luvo_         too late...
15:24 luvo_         :(
15:26 _Zaizen_      NetherEran: unfortunately it doesn't work really well for what i'm doing because I need a timer on the entities so there is still the problem that when an entity change it's timer every timer change.
15:29 _Zaizen_      Oh, maybe I found the solution.
15:34 luvo__        oil_boi love the bounce of the arrow when it impacts with a node haha
15:39 oil_boi       Thanks! I wish I could find an easy way to make it get stuck in the node, I'll have to look in my old code from mystic
15:40 luvo__        mystic was an old mod you did?
15:40 luvo__        is it the mod you talks in the video about "testing mod"?
15:45 oil_boi       Yes it was this junk https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Mystic
15:47 oil_boi       I wonder if there is a way for me to hack in players skins downloading automatically when they join the game, I don't know if the game engine can dynamically load in textures though
15:49 luvo__        all I know is that unified_inventory lets you change your skin in-game (don't really now if that is what you are asking)
15:55 texmex        oil_boi: If you’re pulling a texture defined with with only texture modifiers I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able.
15:57 luvo__        I just realized (re-reading the api) that what sfan5 told me about (get_wield_index) is a method for the user (hurray for me!), but I tried `get_wield_list`, `get_wielded_item` and `get_wielded_index`: the first two methos worked, but the index one, says "attempt to call method 'get_wielded_index' (a nil value)". Any idea why it is reporting me nil? (I'm using this in the `after_use` tool callback thanks in advance!
15:57 sfan5         I believe it's called get_wield_index instead
15:58 luvo__        yeah, nice re-reading, Luvo
15:58 luvo__        thank you again sfan5
15:58 luvo__        sorry for that
16:00 luvo__        like, I just wrote right at the start of the question
16:00 luvo__        smh
16:02 oil_boi       texmex do you know of an example of this?
16:13 texmex        oil_boi: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=22867
16:17 texmex        In the case we’re talking about it’s simpler on the MT side, instead a conversion from a PNG image to ”a crap-ton of texture modifiers” needs to happen in an external server component able to reply to HTTP calls from MT, sending the crap-long texture string back. (possibly compressed with minimum characters, then decompressed once inside MT)
16:45 oil_boi       Oh thank you, let's see what I can do with that
17:15 MinetestBot   02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Carts: Reset player view and attachment table on death 13b787fcf https://git.io/JfRaZ (152020-05-15T17:04:38Z)
18:36 luvo__        I finally did what I wanted yay! Thank you very one!
18:37 luvo__        I finally did what I wanted yay! Thank you very one!
18:37 oil_boi       You're welcome! Even though I didn't do anything
18:37 luvo__        hahahah
18:37 luvo__        oops, double message sorry
18:38 oil_boi       ok texmex I will make the hud display the selected item, but WITH A TWIST https://youtu.be/4LGu1sOvxYs?t=63
18:40 luvo          chan chan chaaaan
18:42 oil_boi       yeee
19:42 luvo_         mmm... has http://git.minetest.org/minetest/minetest anything to do with this minetest? I mean, are you contributing there too? or is it other's people
19:42 Krock         No, that's an unofficial fork
19:43 luvo_         thx!
19:44 sfan5         the person who manages that has a tendency to stalk and harass people so I recommend staying away
19:44 sfan5         it's also forked from an somewhat old version of Minetest
19:45 luvo_         thank you for the advice
19:46 luvo_         I just found voxelands and finished there
21:56 oil_boi       texmex https://i.imgur.com/TlskMe8.png
21:58 texmex        oil_boi: my boi oil coming through!
21:58 leo_rockway   hello minetesters.
21:59 leo_rockway   any chance that anybody would be willing to give this another look? It was opened 5 years ago and the last post is from 2 years ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2399
21:59 leo_rockway   it's about liquid flow being unpredictable
22:01 oil_boi       yeeee
22:02 oil_boi       leo_rockway is there a space below that lava node?
22:02 leo_rockway   oil_boi: I don't recall the specifics. All I know is that I have a Skyblock map and the cobble generator works one way, but not the other.
22:03 oil_boi       What does that mean leo_rockway
22:03 oil_boi       do you have a picture?
22:03 leo_rockway   oil_boi: this comment from Wuzzy does: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2399#issuecomment-303485009
22:03 oil_boi       oh THIS ISSUE
22:04 oil_boi       oh god
22:04 leo_rockway   yes, it's super old
22:04 leo_rockway   it messes with me every time I try to make a cobble generator, that's why I bring it up.
22:05 leo_rockway   oil_boi: thanks for the bump in the issue :D
22:07 oil_boi       I figured it out, it's based on viscosity
22:07 leo_rockway   oil_boi: you figured out as in you have a fix?
22:07 leo_rockway   it out*
22:07 oil_boi       No wait it's not
22:07 leo_rockway   it would be weird if it were based on viscosity, because it works in 3 directions.
22:08 oil_boi       That is very VERY weird, that is 2 nodes away will not flow over water, viscosity 7, but at 5 it will, water will flow over lava regardless of distance
22:08 oil_boi       Also leo_rockway I will absolutely not have a fix haha
22:08 leo_rockway   oh, so viscosity does make a difference then.
22:09 nephele       oil_boi, damn, need to find a new dealer :P
22:09 leo_rockway   oil_boi: man, I was going to say, ticket's open 5 years and you fix it in seconds!
22:09 oil_boi       All I can do is show it in a video
22:09 leo_rockway   that might not be a bad way to bump that issue.
22:10 leo_rockway   if I try to run minetest and capture video at the same time my laptop turns into a toaster oven.
22:11 oil_boi       No wait, it's actually working properly in my game with nether lava and main lava
22:11 oil_boi       I forgot I restricted main lava flow to 3 nodes
22:11 oil_boi       Also nephele the only thing I deal is bugs
22:12 nephele       wait, you make the bugs in minetest?
22:12 oil_boi       Maybe someone accidentally fixed in in 5.3 dev??
22:12 oil_boi       Oh yes
22:15 leo_rockway   https://i.imgur.com/66gHvue.png
22:15 leo_rockway   https://i.imgur.com/cc754Zk.png
22:15 leo_rockway   same exact set up, just rotated
22:15 leo_rockway   in the first one, water never flows and cobble is not generated.
22:16 leo_rockway   I don't think I ever changed the flow of water or lava in my setup.
22:16 leo_rockway   this is mineclone2, but I could replicate the same thing in minetest game.
22:17 leo_rockway   in fact, I'll try and do that now.
22:19 leo_rockway   from minetest game: https://i.imgur.com/U9YWZPz.png
22:20 leo_rockway   same cobblestone generator setup, except in one water flows one way and in the other one the opposite way. One works, the other one doesn't.
22:26 oil_boi       https://i.imgur.com/yBJRT4o.png
22:26 oil_boi       Crafter has a tweaked config though
22:26 leo_rockway   so the water is going sideways for you?
22:27 oil_boi       dedicated_server_step = 0.01
22:27 oil_boi       No it's meeting up normally
22:27 leo_rockway   did you try rotating the same setup?
22:28 leo_rockway   oh, and I see that the meat pops decrease from left to right in crafter. Mineclone2 needs that!
22:29 oil_boi       Every direction, it's weird I can't replicate it https://imgur.com/a/tnbgZq0
22:29 oil_boi       Also yes, symmetry is important!
22:31 oil_boi       Also in this image, it's probably happening because it does a binary check in all directions +1x -1x, +1z -1z and it's breaking the loop after the first check fails, maybe
22:31 oil_boi       https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/17685062/37201183-3a1709e8-2387-11e8-910b-73582f8a03ae.jpeg
22:32 leo_rockway   it doesn't explain my image, though.
22:33 oil_boi       Your image is probably the "politeness problem" one wants to flow before the other in code, therefore neither does, this is in combination with the 2 generals problem localized within memory space
22:34 oil_boi       The only solution to fixing this code is that one must flow overriding the other on the loop that calculates new flowing nodes
22:34 leo_rockway   I'm surprised it only happens in one direction.
22:34 oil_boi       Oof, that was too much brame wurk 4 tday
22:35 leo_rockway   it's Friday!
22:36 oil_boi       Yes, that will happen, I have no idea how the flow code works, but if entities automatic_facedir_rotation or whatever the variable is ranges from -math.pi/2 to math.pi*1.5 then anything is possible
22:36 oil_boi       Also my favorite part about that is if you set automatic_facedir_rotation to 0 then it's still turned 90 degrees to the right in code
22:37 oil_boi       because math.pi/2 is 90 degrees in literal
22:37 leo_rockway   this is why I'm not a programmer. This stuff does hurt my brain.
22:38 leo_rockway   I can script admin stuff, I'm fine with that.
22:38 oil_boi       Oh dude, it took me like 3 hours to translate the radians in degrees then work from there, f*** combining the yaw of the body with the yaw of the head while setting the head rotation and working around the set_bone_pos bug which breaks it's position in the animation
22:38 nephele       if you wanna do movement in a 3d game you gotta expect some vector math :P
22:39 oil_boi       Oh yes nephele I do, but not when a random issue like that is coming up, very blah
22:39 leo_rockway   I dropped out of compsci and got a translator degree instead.
22:40 nephele       I think i'll implement my focus code again as a csm, funnily enough i only wanted to get a bully-like aim thingy for fighting
22:40 nephele       only figured out later that it is basically a literal aimbot haha
22:41 nephele       ah, i remember why i didn't yet, i don't think csm has any call to set the camera angle :g
22:42 oil_boi       csm is in the state the Minetest 0.4.8 was, but that will change, eventually, everyone is working very hard on it since it creates extreme amounts of aesthetic possibilities and creativity that cannot be achieved over packets through a network connection
22:45 nephele       oil_boi, server send csms will be nice... can then finally remove all the useless formspec garbage i have and generate them locally :g (currently make formspecs for all machines that run in like the formspec string, like the mtg furnace does, but ideally i shouldn't need to :D)
22:46 oil_boi       Oh you already can
22:46 nephele       yeah, packaging is somewhat annoying though
22:46 oil_boi       But it requires a bit of work
22:47 nephele       I suppose i should just do a client-side part for the gamemode and tell people to install it or smth
22:47 oil_boi       It honestly does not matter how annoying the packaging is, look at Windows 95, if your code is good enough, people will use it
22:48 nephele       its orders of magnitude worse than garrys mod for instance, i certainly dont have the patience to manually manage activations of clientside mods for specific servers i want to play on
22:48 nephele       i guess its fine for people that only ever play on one or two servers, but bah
22:48 nephele       although i should probably start regardless, eventually it will be there and i would have a csm ready, then :P
22:50 oil_boi       Eventually the csm will be exported to your client when you join the server, or join your singleplayer world, the csm currently is just a prototype, with csm downloaded automatically modding the code in memory will be so ultra extremely difficult a skilled hacker would have trouble modifying lua code in memory space
22:51 oil_boi       So yes, you should practice on this CSM prototype, even if you have to make a server mod just to load textures
22:52 nephele       Well, in gmod you only had to say "include these textures", which you already can by having them in the textures folder, so not much work there :P
22:54 oil_boi       Yes, gmod is using source, which is an overhaul of quake with blink video and havock built on top of it with a lua api slapped on top of it, it was also developed by quite a few very well paid people that spent only their working hours creating it and directly being in communication with each other
22:54 nephele       I know it's history, it's api for client / server mods was really nice though
22:54 oil_boi       You are now on a project developed by ... 412 people, half of which do not come online anymore
22:55 nephele       mods are simply both, with one part beeing on the server and one on the client, checkable by globals
22:55 nephele       oil_boi, sure... i can still take it as a reference though
22:55 oil_boi       Very true
22:55 nephele       I think it did that part of its lua api really well, i do miss it a bit :P
22:55 oil_boi       I think the problem with "include these textures" is the fact that someone could hack that to run "include this exe"
22:56 nephele       almost had a working lock-less (in the gameplay sense of not taking away camera control) inventory system ... :(
22:56 oil_boi       A lock-less inventory?
22:57 nephele       I hoped the brackets explained what i ment :g
22:58 nephele       gmod, or atleast the servers i played on, is generally still an fps shoort, interacting with inventories with your mouse can be quite bad since it takes away your movement controls and power to look around in that game.. i instead opted to use like the numpad and so to navigate it
22:58 oil_boi       Oh that's quite easy to do
22:59 nephele       I didn't claim it was hard
22:59 nephele       Just that the pre-made UI thingies generally only did mouse control, and bad one at that, so had to make the inventory i wanted from primitives mostly so made a tiny layouting thing in lua
23:00 oil_boi       You must simply make a hud that emulates an inventory, with specific slots creating sub elements, and you must get the last position of get_wield_index and then combine that with your modified hud, and then create a drop down reference for the client to utilize, and have a timer to timeout showing the hud
23:01 oil_boi       I will make this in a little while
23:02 nephele       I disagree with a timeout, and i have no idea what you mean with a drop down
23:02 nephele       i will make this either way, i mostly have the code already :P
23:03 oil_boi       https://screenshots.gamebanana.com/img/ss/guis/5a7078c8d049c.jpg
23:03 oil_boi       This?
23:03 nephele       Just a bit bumped that minetestes way to get keybindings is so awfully limited
23:03 nephele       oil_boi: what do you mean?
23:04 oil_boi       Or do you mean this? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G78T31k8uqE/maxresdefault.jpg
23:04 nephele       I honestly don't know what either of those should be
23:05 nephele       I am talking about a HUD displaying inventories of items only while you look at it
23:05 nephele       so you can interact with the keyboard while looking at them
23:05 oil_boi       Then I have no idea what you mean ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:06 nephele       Well, the closest analogy i know is fallout4 quick-loot, if you know that
23:06 oil_boi       YES
23:06 oil_boi       Make that shit happen
23:07 oil_boi       How about we do this
23:09 oil_boi       nephele https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9871
23:10 nephele       I had a tiny ui layouting thingy for gmod, i think i can port it to minetest rather easily, should be able to make something like quickloot with that https://git.gryphno.de/neplevitan/glua-mod-ui/src/branch/master/lua/ui.lua
23:11 oil_boi       How about you ping that or DM that to a core developer directly? I am just a simple api game dev
23:12 nephele       ping what?
23:12 oil_boi       A rather annoying one tbh hahaha, well do stuff like this: sfan5
23:13 sfan5         I can say one thing: that bug you opened is probably a duplicate
23:13 oil_boi       See what I told you nephele?
23:13 nephele       i think that more keybindings would be nice is known :D
23:13 oil_boi       Very annoying not looking through duplicate problems
23:16 nephele       I can't make duplicate tickets if i don't open tickets *taps forehead*
23:16 oil_boi       Don't worry, I've done that for you :D
23:17 nephele       Anyway, I'll work on this tommorow, feel free to ping me about that in case i forget (I think with the keys i can use currently i atleast have a basic one to make), should sleep now to try and maintain a normal sleepcycle :g
23:22 oil_boi       Alright I'm done being a butthole
23:29 oil_boi       Also definitely do not approve that as it allows access to creating keyloggers combined with the http modding api, so I will close it now
23:33 sfan5         >// if this node is not (yet) of a liquid type, choose the first liquid type we encounter
23:33 sfan5         ok who thought this was a good idea
23:34 sfan5         the reason that the lava refuses to flow that way is that the liquid code finds the water first and operates on the assumption that the water wants to flow there
23:34 oil_boi       SO IT IS a 2 generals problem localized
23:35 oil_boi       Also that's why my custom water flows properly?
23:35 sfan5         what exactly does "custom" mean?
23:35 oil_boi       main:water not default:water
23:36 sfan5         doesn't make a difference
23:36 oil_boi       Then why does it work??
23:40 sfan5         ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:41 oil_boi       Does it make a specific call to namespace default:water or default:water_flow?
23:43 leo_rockway   sfan5: this bug's lived for half of the life of minetest. It would be a great celebration and people will rejoice once it's fixed.
23:43 leo_rockway   Minetest turns 10 years old in November, if I'm not mistaken. This bug was opened in 2015.
23:44 oil_boi       If you guys want a real headache: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9872
23:44 oil_boi       Just thought I'd add petrol to the inferno
23:45 leo_rockway   but how viscous is that petrol, oil_boi ?
23:45 oil_boi       As thick as the oil I'm made of yo
23:46 oil_boi       I think I need to relearn cpp so I can create horrific monstrosities of merge requests that someone will end up fixing, again
23:47 oil_boi       Oh no, I just got 3 ideas at once
23:50 leo_rockway   I think I'm too old to actually learn cpp. And too unmotivated to learn it. I can deal with Lua in small dosis.
23:50 sfan5         https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/9874
23:50 sfan5         and now it is be time to go to bed
23:50 sfan5         s/is be/is/
23:51 * leo_rockway highfives sfan5
23:51 oil_boi       have a good one sfan5
23:51 leo_rockway   goodnight
23:53 oil_boi       leo_rockway do you think it would be cool if we could set the digging/placing animation speed? and change the animation based on if the item is a node or a tool/item?
23:53 leo_rockway   oil_boi: I do. I actually mentioned it in the Mineclone2 forum thread, I believe. The digging animation in minecraft is much faster and it looks more dynamic.
23:54 leo_rockway   but, I can request stuff as much as I want, but I feel like a freeloader doing so, haha.
23:54 leo_rockway   although I feel like I contributed a bit by poking that one liquid flow issue today.
23:56 oil_boi       leo_rockway https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9876
23:56 leo_rockway   I had an idea for a game for a long time. Basically, you crashlanded in the minetest planet and you need to craft the parts of your spaceship to be able to return to your planet.
23:56 oil_boi       This is the best I could do with quite a few beers in me
23:56 leo_rockway   nice
23:57 oil_boi       The MC  animation of placing nodes has always stuck with me, same with the digging speeds on tools. I may have created the digging/placing animation, but I always wanted a custom variable to control it
23:57 leo_rockway   I think there should be room for custom animations. Like eating, drinking, shooting, playing an instrument, etc.
23:58 leo_rockway   imagine an ocarina mod :)
23:59 sfan5         there, fixed it in the situation Wuzzy reported there too
23:59 oil_boi       Very nice sfan5