Time Nick Message 01:02 gnawzie hello everyone 03:06 oil_boi is meta:set_string("value", "hi") faster than local table = {} table["value"] = "hi? 07:27 jas_ interesting question i wish i know. at a guess, i'd imagine getting meta is heavier than a table lookup, but i have nothing to base that on. i've always wanted to learn how to time stuff, i guess that's the best way to find out? 08:17 rubenwardy jas_: meta will be slower, but safer to persist 08:53 jas_ nice 09:00 jas_ !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&start=9400 09:00 MinetestBot jas_: Post your screenshots! - Page 377 - Minetest Forums 11:29 Miniontoby hello 11:36 Markow Hi 12:04 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Enable collide_with_objects for falling entities 13e8e5d28 https://git.io/JfZ6k (152020-05-06T12:03:52Z) 12:04 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Rewrite falling entity to make use of collision info 13723926a https://git.io/JfZ6I (152020-05-06T12:03:52Z) 12:04 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Expose collided objects in moveresult 13b6b80f5 https://git.io/JfZ6L (152020-05-06T12:03:52Z) 12:27 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MoNTE48 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: porting_android.cpp refactoring (#9687) 134f9a5f6 https://git.io/JfZ6A (152020-05-06T12:25:57Z) 13:19 GNU[BDC] hi, anyone know what has changed from 0.4.17 => 5.2.0. When you send private message reciever get message, but sender get only "message send". 13:20 Out`Of`Control In other words sender does not see what he wrote. 13:21 Out`Of`Control Now the question is, its a mod bug or a minetest bug. 13:47 ANAND Out`Of`Control: Not much seems to have changed in the /msg chat-command def. I don't remember seeing the messages I send in 0.4.x either. 13:48 ANAND Hmmm 13:48 ANAND I think it might be the chat-command feedback? i.e. "Issued command /msg receiver123 Hi" 13:48 Out`Of`Control it was working fine in 0.4.17 13:49 Out`Of`Control only if you join a channel, it was broken 13:50 ANAND Then I think this regression is in a mod on your server. 13:51 ANAND You could try grepping for msg in your mods directory, if you have difficulty finding the mod. 13:53 Out`Of`Control conflict with other mod? 14:09 ANAND I don't really know. Maybe you can look for the mods that override the /msg chat-command? 14:10 ANAND One possible scenario is that a mod that you recently installed/updated now overrides the chat-command as well 14:14 Out`Of`Control ANAND: i see thanks! 14:14 Out`Of`Control i disable one by one to see what cause it 15:42 argentite Hello, new minetest player here. What is the relation among the different versions of minetest? I found another website minetest.org which seems to be distributing "Final Minetest". There also seems to be an old version. 15:45 sfan5 The latest version of Minetest is 5.2.0, the previous major version was called 0.4; both are network-incompatible which means you can't use a 0.4 client to play on a 5.x server or the other way around 15:46 sfan5 the so called "final minetest" you found is a fork of the 0.4 version, so quite old by now (regardless of what that website claims) 15:46 argentite Ok thanks, I'll stick to 5.2 15:47 sfan5 that fork was created by a former community member after severe disagreements, that person has a tendency to harrass and stalk people so I'd suggest keeping a healthy distance 15:48 argentite umm... ok :D 16:22 lmat I installed the craftingguide mod. When I point at stone and type /craft I get the crafting guide showing how to make stone and what can be mode from it. There are also a bunch of items on the left. 16:22 lmat When I click most of the items on the left, nothing happens. 17:12 jas_ got the latest versions of the craftguide mod and minetest? 17:12 jas_ craftguide requires newer version if i'm not mistaken 17:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04v-rob -> 03minetest/minetest: FormSpec: Add universal style selector `*` (#9718) 13664800b https://git.io/JfZNH (152020-05-06T17:36:02Z) 19:03 gnawzie if I have something growing upward, it seems like abm will scan from the bottom up, so if I have put something on top the abm will scan over the next Y and grow it up yet again multiple times in an interval, should I use a node timer to prevent this? 19:36 MinetestBot 02[git] 04osjc -> 03minetest/minetest: Get rid of non-ascii characters in the debug display code (#8821) 134f9ccd8 https://git.io/JfneE (152020-05-06T19:35:18Z) 19:41 appgurueu #8821 is a regression IMO 19:41 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8821 -- Replace non-ASCII characters in gameui debug display code by osjc 19:42 appgurueu Replacing very readable with unreadable code is a very bad idea and undermines the purpose of code style. 19:42 appgurueu ( change was replacing "°" with "\xC2\xB0" without adding a comment) 19:43 rubenwardy why is that needed? Our source code should be in UTF-8, all compilers support that 19:43 rubenwardy it's in the standard 19:43 appgurueu yup 19:43 appgurueu I'd always prefer "°" over "\xC2\xB0" 19:44 appgurueu And if a "code style" requires me to write the latter, it's a bad or outdated code style 19:47 appgurueu #9828 19:48 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9828 -- Revert "Replace non-ASCII characters in gameui debug display code" by appgurueu 19:52 Krock seriously 19:52 appgurueu jup 19:52 appgurueu GitHub provides a very convenient "Revert" button 19:56 Krock you had like one entire year to comment that previous PR so leave it 19:57 Krock well 9 months but still 19:57 appgurueu I didn't even notice it 19:57 appgurueu But I keep an eye on merged PRs 20:35 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Fix compatibility of MapBlock decoding 132979dc5 https://git.io/JfnJU (152020-05-06T20:32:27Z) 21:22 frabbit hi. i just compiled latest minetest engine and game, but my game crahses when i throw something and it keeps crahing a few seconds after rejoin the world, too. heres the output of my terminal: https://paste2.org/p5naHFjy 21:22 Lone_Wolf Are you sure MTG is up-to-date? 21:24 appguru frabbit: I assume this might have been caused by sfan5 rewriting the item entity using the new moveresult? 21:24 sfan5 Lone_Wolf: considering their log says "minetest_game-5.2.0" I am very sure it is not up-to-date 21:24 Lone_Wolf Getting the latest MTG will fix ^ 21:24 Lone_Wolf lel, missed that 21:25 appguru No, I think I got a clue 21:25 appguru sfan5: default is overriding the item entity AFAIK, and most likely it doesn't pass the moveresult anymore 21:25 sfan5 what do you mean "anymore"? 21:26 sfan5 this bug was fixed even before the item entity PR was merged into the engine 21:26 appguru Sorry, not anymore, it never did 21:26 appguru Reminds me I'll have to update by item limit mod 21:26 appguru my* 21:26 appguru But indeed 21:27 appguru it is fixed in upstream MTG 21:28 frabbit ok tank you for the replys. why isnt the latest version listed here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/releases 21:29 Lone_Wolf download minetest_game the same way you downloaded minetest, from master 21:29 Lone_Wolf Note that's the latest dev 21:29 frabbit yeah sure, but that doesnt answer my question ;) 21:30 appguru Because releases are only stable ones 21:30 appguru Nightly releases are not meant to be installed by downloading 21:31 frabbit wait! so the latest stable release isnt stable at all? 21:31 Lone_Wolf No 21:31 sfan5 if you compile the engine from master instead of 5.2.0 you also need minetest_game from master not 5.2.0 21:32 Lone_Wolf latest stable Minetest Engine: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases 21:32 Lone_Wolf Latest stable Minetest Game https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/releases 21:32 frabbit sfan5: ok i see. so latest menas always nightly 21:32 frabbit thx 21:32 Lone_Wolf There is also a stable-5 branch in both repos 21:33 frabbit Lone_Wolf: thx i posted that links before ;P 21:35 frabbit fine now throwing works =) 21:35 appguru frabbit: side note, it's called dropping 21:35 frabbit thx again and cya 21:35 * appguru waves 21:36 frabbit appguru: hm depends on your definition: if i drop my key, the it falls to my feet, not 1 and a half meter infront of me ;D 22:49 jas_ rubenwardy: hi can i get voice on #minetest-hub ?