Time  Nick             Message
00:09 rubenwardy       freelikegnu: what needs to be done for "goblins" on CDB?
00:09 rubenwardy       I don't understnad your question earlier
02:04 guzzi            i want to use mobs_animal
02:04 guzzi            on a headless server
02:04 guzzi            i installed mobs_redo.
02:12 guzzi            is there a way for me to see if it is working.  I am not seeing any animals
02:13 NathanS21        I assume you've added mobs_animals as well?
02:16 guzzi            yes i added mobs animals as well.  when i start the minetest server it shows that both have loaded.
02:16 guzzi            only thing I notice is that the folder is called mobs_redo
02:16 guzzi            but the module setting is just mobs
02:16 Lone_Wolf        You should see `[MOD] Mobs Redo 'Animals' loaded` in your logs when starting up a world
02:16 NathanS21        Yes, the folder should be called mobs_redo
02:17 NathanS21        You should also be able to find the mob eggs in creative inventory on the server
02:17 NathanS21        running /mods on the server will also show what mods are enabled
02:21 guzzi            what is 'createive inventory'?
02:22 guzzi            oh i see beehive
02:22 guzzi            ok is there some way they get generated in my world?
02:23 guzzi            do i have to set creative?
02:23 NathanS21        The animals should randomly spawn in your world.
02:23 NathanS21        Different ones will spawn in different areas.
02:23 guzzi            ah ok. well looks like it is all there. thanks
02:24 guzzi            I just don't see anything yet.
02:25 NathanS21        It might take a little while for them to start appearing, but they will. :)
02:31 guzzi            ok thanks NathanS21.
03:21 guzzi            actually i don't see [MOD] Mobs Redo 'Animals' loaded
03:21 guzzi            and I only see some fireflys
03:21 NathanS21        Fireflies are part of MTG
03:22 NathanS21        does mobs_animal show when you run the /mods command.
03:32 guzzi            NathanS21 yes it does
03:33 guzzi            I just saw then end of my config had an extra load_mod_mobs = false
03:33 guzzi            so maybe that was it.
03:33 guzzi            I will check back tomorrow
03:40 guzzi            well i gave myself give permissions and gave myself a bee.
03:40 guzzi            guess i will just drop some mob spawners
03:41 guzzi            so it is working
03:44 guzzi            are there instructions on the spawner options?
04:53 troy_cambridge   did not really expect to see so many in here.
04:54 troy_cambridge   I'm playing the realtest game and am stuck figuring out how to smelt metals
05:08 swift110-phone__ Oh ok
06:00 oil_boi          How would one tell emerge_area https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L4769 to do something when the mapblocks are loaded?
06:00 oil_boi          It's worded very strangely in the doc
06:02 cheapie          oil_boi: I would imagine you would give it a callback to run, and lines 4775-4788 state what stuff will be passed to it.
06:03 cheapie          If you're wanting to wait until *all* of the ones you specified are done, it sounds like you'll have to just wait to be called with a calls_remaining of 0.
06:04 oil_boi          Thanks cheapie
06:06 oil_boi          I was like, doing a timer, but then I'm like this is dumb, and I finally just gave up on that and was like emerge_area has to have some way to do this
06:11 * oil_boi        wonders if multiple emerge_area calls can be run in a single instance
06:12 tf2ftw           hi. Anyone use aliveai before? I don't understand how to generate bots
06:12 tf2ftw           https://github.com/AiTechEye/aliveai/wiki/bot-defines
06:12 oil_boi          as in, if you have local variable x declared directly before the emerge_area callback is defined if two instances of the same call try to run will x be contaminated, aka doubled, as they try to add x=x+1 ?
06:13 oil_boi          or will it do emerge area, reset, emerge area, instead of emerge area1, emerge area2, repeat?
06:13 oil_boi          oh no my question broke freenode
06:19 Verticen         <oil_boi> Yo I'm clueless on how to answer any of ur questions, but I want to say that ur latest nether test is sweet, and the music is good!
06:20 oil_boi          Thanks Verticen! Hopefully we can actually travel to the nether within the next hour or two :)
06:34 oil_boi          Verticen, very exciting, I've figured out a method to localize nether portals, no need for metadata storage, it's utilizing actual positions and finding a portal within a 30 node distance and if it doesn't exist it will try to create them, and if it does, when you teleport it will simply go to the already existing one
06:38 Verticen         oil_boi Nice. Since portals can be any shape, will the portal created in the opposite dimension share the same shape of the created portal? How will that work? also do you plan on doing a 1:4 distance ratio for overworld/nether?
06:43 oil_boi          No, it would take a lot of calculations and storage to do that, I'm going to do a simple nether portal schematic. BUT since this utilizes the function to just check if there's a nether portal node around the lava sea's starting position, if you build a portal within 30 nodes of the nether portal you spawned into the nether in, it will always link the two together. I can't really do that since we're limited to the 16 bit
06:43 oil_boi          integer limit on x and z, if I did that you'd always hit the border of the map if you're farther out than 8000 nodes on x or z. Also a 1,1 ratio is much easier to do since I can check directly below the player, etc. If the mapsize is ever expanded I'll feel free to modify everything to do the 1:4 ratio
06:44 Verticen         cool. keep the updates coming, they're cool to see.
06:48 oil_boi          Thanks bro. I think you'll be very excited to know, since it's 1:1 and Y coordinate independent , you can essentially create dimension elevators, portals next to each other that will transport you to the adjacent dimension portal
06:49 oil_boi          oof
08:28 theslavguardian  Hello everyone
11:06 Sompi            vois laittaa minetest-palvelimen
11:16 Sompi            how can I host a minetest server
11:17 sfan5            https://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
11:19 Sompi            what plugins do you recommend
11:20 Sompi            http://bsserver.tunk.org:8000/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=bootstrap is this enough for specs
11:25 sfan5            16 CPU cores and 16GB of RAM are far past the recommend requirements
11:25 sfan5            so yes that is "enough"
11:26 Krock            You need at least a GTX 2080 Super
11:26 sfan5            which mods depends on your intention what the server should be
11:26 Krock            otherwise the server won't run smoothly
11:27 Sompi            a minecraft-like survival game where players can builds and do some redstone-like logic
11:28 Krock            your cores aren't very strong, but will definitely suffice to run a full-fledged server with heavy machinery mods
11:28 sfan5            !mod mobs_redo
11:28 MinetestBot      sfan5: Mobs Redo [mobs] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 - https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo
11:28 sfan5            !mod mesecons
11:28 MinetestBot      sfan5: Mesecons (= redstone) [mesecons] by Jeija - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=628 - https://github.com/minetest-mods/mesecons
11:28 sfan5            ^ you'll want those two at least
11:29 Krock            I can pass you the IEC gate textures for the mesecons mod if you'd prefer those :3 (like I do)
11:29 Sompi            i'll look into those when I get the basic server working
11:30 Krock            I wonder how much you could overclock those Xeons. The 54xx series were pretty good there, maybe yours too
11:30 Sompi            slackware's sbotools ran into some md5hash errors when installing flatpak :(
11:31 Sompi            is there an archive file somewhere that contains only the binaries?
11:31 Krock            how about Slackware's official repository?
11:32 Krock            or unstable, if even.
11:32 sfan5            I think there are some ways you can extract flatpaks, but the flatpaks contain the client anyway with X11 and all that stuff
11:32 Sompi            yes, and I need only the server
11:33 sfan5            if your distribution doesn't have it compiling from source isn't too complicated
11:34 Sompi            actually there is a minetest package in slackbuilds.org
11:34 Sompi            but it is 5.0.1
11:35 Krock            outdated by a year
12:05 tf2ftw           hi. Anyone use aliveai before? I don't understand how to generate bots
12:05 tf2ftw           https://github.com/AiTechEye/aliveai/wiki/bot-defines
13:48 orbea            Sompi: download the newer source and: VERSSION=5.2.0 ./minetest.Slackbuild
14:13 * DS-minetest    thinks he found the reason why nodetimers were called wrongly for him
14:14 * DS-minetest    forgot to rebuild and hence had c++ changes of the vector PR but not the lua part
15:47 guzzi            I loaded mobs_animal and mobs_redo do I need to regenerate my world to see them start appearing?
15:47 guzzi            I can give my self animals and place them, but I am not seeing them appear anywhere.
15:51 orbea            guzzi: no, you do not need to regenerate the world, just wait
15:52 orbea            imo the mobs_animals dont spawn enough compared to mobs_monsters
15:52 guzzi            yeah someone else reported it on the forum too.
15:52 guzzi            I will try mobs_monsters.  thanks
15:52 ANAND            True, mobs_animal mobs spawn very far and few in between.
15:52 guzzi            yeah like never.
15:53 guzzi            like in real life
15:53 guzzi            sitting in the deer stand I almost never see deer.
15:53 guzzi            thanks guys.
15:53 guzzi            hopefully i can contribute to this project.
15:54 guzzi            I contributed to some c++ for monero, I do python mostly.
15:58 * orbea          shrugs, I've fixed 3 bugs in MTG so far and the only one that was merged/closed was because it was a duplicate of a unmerged 2018 PR I didn't see until after...contributing seems a waste of time.
15:59 Krock            research to prevent stepping into pitfalls
16:07 guzzi            yeah.. turns out print(S(....)) prints to syslong not to the debug.txt.  I see mobs_animal is loaded via the syslog file in ubuntu.
16:08 Daisae           For a certain world running MTG, it is running in creative mode even though the checkbox for creative mode is de-selected.  I deactivated all mods and revoked give privilege.  What could be causing this?
16:09 guzzi            orbea, yeah, opensource collaboration can be frustrating.
16:10 guzzi            I spent 2 to 3 hours over comments and variable names last week.
16:10 guzzi            And that was after 6 days of debugging just to find the bug.
16:11 guzzi            luckily i work for a large enough company that they are willing to work on open source upstream bugs.
16:11 orbea            guzzi: right, I'm tired of project leads wasting my time with non-technical bs...happened with more projects than I can remember
16:11 sfan5            Daisae: /revoke <yourname> creative
16:11 sfan5            if you use /grantme all you will also receive a creative privilege
16:12 Daisae           Thanks.
16:12 guzzi            orbea, yeah.  I literally said: "please give me a suggested commit on github"
16:12 guzzi            then magically they just did it.
16:13 guzzi            its like, dude i spent 6 days finding this now you want to argue about the variable.  lol nope.
16:13 orbea            lol
16:14 sfan5            orbea: there are certainly things that are worth complaining about but "minetest_game devs agreed that my cleanup PR was not an overall improvement to code quality" is not one of them
16:14 Daisae           itemstr
16:15 orbea            sfan5: i wasnt complaining about that, although yea, I spent hours making your code more readable and then you guys complain how its less readable. lol
16:15 orbea            i did say bug fixes
16:15 guzzi            yeah i installed mobs_water.  I already see some animals
16:16 guzzi            cool!
16:17 guzzi            thanks orbea
16:49 MinetestBot      02[git] 04dcbrwn -> 03minetest/minetest: Reuse object_shader for "wielditem" and "item" entity drawtypes (#9537) 13cdbe3c5 https://git.io/JfU2c (152020-04-19T16:47:13Z)
17:08 MinetestBot      02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix alias handling of get_content_id (#9712) 13338195f https://git.io/JfUam (152020-04-19T17:07:54Z)
19:17 begui            Hey, how deep does minetest go?
19:28 Krock            begui: -30980m or something like that
19:28 Krock            !next
19:28 MinetestBot      Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:28 begui            wow
19:49 begui            I think im in hell
19:49 begui            this is great
20:21 xachman          begui:  At -650 I finally found mese.  Have you found any diamond yet?
20:21 begui            tons
20:21 xachman          what depth was that?
21:25 Wuzzy            xachman: https://wiki.minetest.net/Ores
21:25 begui            xachman, not so sure but we managed to get to about -7000
21:28 xachman          begui: nice!
21:30 xachman          im at -677 and playing with mod_monsters so its going probably slower
21:56 Zughy            so guys, anyone worried about Minetest when Hytale gets released? Considering that some MC players are thrilled by the modding system
21:57 Lone_Wolf        MC modders have no taste. Otherwise they'd be doing MT modding >:)
21:58 Zughy            :^]. But well, they're pretty famous and huge (I mean the game I mentioned)
22:24 hisforever       Hi I'm having trouble with digtron mod? here is a screenshot https://imgur.com/a/zrtveXn
22:24 hisforever       please help
22:26 Zughy            hisforever, you should ask to the creator of the mod/game
22:27 hisforever       ghtok thanks Zuh