Time  Nick          Message
00:10 skibur        Morning
00:11 skibur        Does enabling enable_local_map_saving speed up the game experience?
00:13 sfan5         it does not
00:32 skibur        How do I set the depth 255 of v7 map?
00:33 sfan5         you want the map to only go down til -255?
00:33 skibur        yes
00:33 sfan5         I think there's a setting for map generation limit
02:20 quickq        Quick question for you all. Linux novice here, running a MT server (0.4.17) on a Raspberry Pi. Ran into that issue where players are shifted vertically by one node. I see that the solution is rolling back to 0.4.16.
02:20 quickq        My question is, how do I do that? Can someone point me to a resource for downgrading the server and the game?
02:21 Calinou       quickq: which version are the clients using?
02:21 Calinou       either way, we recommend upgrading to Minetest 5.0.0 or later
02:21 Calinou       (on Raspberry Pi, I believe you'll need to compile it from source)
02:22 quickq        I'm on 0.4.17, others are on .16. Yes, have to compile on R-Pi for sure, but I tried that and gave up after many hours. Lol Kept running into compiling errors and just couldn't overcome it.
02:24 quickq        Tried both of these methods: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=21723
02:25 quickq        https://blog.networked.space/minetest-on-raspberry-pi.html
02:25 quickq        On the R-Pi 3 B+, but no joy. :(
02:29 quickq        Though I suppose I haven't gone through the steps on Github. I'll try that tonight (after the kids are off the server and in bed) and maybe have some luck there!
06:24 Extex         Hey what do you think about an option of plantlike rooted that has the plantlike portion within the node?
06:24 Extex         So we could have like leaves with apple inside of it
06:54 Extex         Gtg cya ppls
11:38 texmex        Extex: not very ”plantlike” anymore but I like it :)
11:40 texmex        But then we might as well use that as water with plantlike in it, which would be the most non-weird solution to the initial problem that plantlike_rooted was trying to solve.
15:15 magicuserbaby Hello, everyone! Had a question last night and was recommended to update from 0.4.17 to 5.x. After a couple failures, managed to compile it on my Raspberry Pi (using the Github readme), but my bin dir is empty. Any guidance here?
15:16 DS-minetest   what cmake options did you use?
15:17 magicuserbaby I used run in place = true, build client = false, build server = true!
15:18 JDCodeIt      you mean -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE -DBUILD_CLIENT=FALSE -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
15:19 magicuserbaby Yes, that's correct, but for -DRUN_IN_PLACE, I used "TRUE", not "1" - think that was my problem?
15:19 DS-minetest   did make say that it created a binary?
15:19 magicuserbaby I can check - can you point me to the log on that?
15:19 DS-minetest   TRUE is fine in -DRUN_IN_PLACE
15:19 Krock         TRUE and 1 are likely handled the same way
15:20 magicuserbaby Okay, that's what I thought - I was following the readme syntax using TRUE
15:21 DS-minetest   were there any  build errors in the output of make?
15:23 magicuserbaby None that I noticed, but it did take about an hour to compile, so I didn't babysit it as much as I should have. Lol
15:23 magicuserbaby The make count was 100, if that indicates that it was 100%
15:24 DS-minetest   maybe look for something like "Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest"
15:25 magicuserbaby Will do! Would I find that in the CMakeOutput.log?
15:25 JDCodeIt      cmake builds the Makefile, make uses that to build, so it would be output from the make command
15:25 DS-minetest   i meant in the terminal output
15:27 Krock         re-running make will also show that
15:28 magicuserbaby Oh, okay, thanks everyone! I'll re-run make and see what output I get!
15:28 magicuserbaby I'll update you here shortly!
15:29 Krock         normally you should get a minetest(server) binary into the bin/ directory of the git clone
15:29 Krock         make install would then copy the files to the appropriate location
15:30 magicuserbaby Okay, that's what I was expecting, based on everything I've read (and tried) when compiling.
15:31 magicuserbaby Now, just to make sure I'm not looking somewhere silly, the /bin dir of the git clone should be the root "/" "bin", right?
15:31 magicuserbaby I'm comfortable with Linux, but I'm no power user, so I have to ask. :)
15:31 JDCodeIt      it will be where you installed the source code
15:31 DS-minetest   no, it should be the bin folder in your minetest folder
15:32 magicuserbaby Okay, gotcha - it's not in either "bins", /bin or /home/$user/minetest/bin
15:32 magicuserbaby Rerunning make now!
15:32 DS-minetest   (the "no" references more than one line far)
15:32 magicuserbaby 15%! I'll update in about an hour. Lol
15:33 JDCodeIt      The Pi is pretty limited for RAM, so make -j1 is probably all you can manage without going into the swap space (if you have any)
15:33 DS-minetest   rerunning make shouldn't take long if it was already built (it'll just link the object files again)
15:35 magicuserbaby Yeah, it's running an a Model 3 B+, I had it on 0.4.17 and it ran quite well, but in the make command, I'm using the j$(nproc) option
15:35 magicuserbaby Would I be better off specifying one core?
15:35 JDCodeIt      I think it has 4 processors, but only 1GB RAM
15:36 magicuserbaby You are correct!
15:36 magicuserbaby I do have a swap partition on there, if I could leverage that somehow.
15:36 JDCodeIt      use top to see how much each job is taking, if you are heavily into swap, probably it is more efficient to use 1 job
15:37 magicuserbaby Good to know. I'm still running the 0.4.17, and building on yet another Pi to get a test case for 5.1, so I've got room for experimentation!
15:44 JDCodeIt      swap is moving a lot of data between RAM and the SD card or USB drive you might have attached. That's not too fast...
15:53 magicuserbaby Makes sense! I'm running it off an SD card, so I definitely see how that would slow stuff down.
15:53 magicuserbaby 23% on make... Lol
15:53 magicuserbaby Taking longer than I expected - seems like something may have in fact gone wrong compiling last night,.
16:42 magicuserbaby JDCodelt: So, my test build was too slow, so I jumped ship on it and started on my primary Pi (the B+) and using a faster/larger SD card. Compiling failed again, even using the exact same process I did on the test Pi.
16:42 magicuserbaby So, I used one job, as you recommended, and that's doing the trick for me! :)
16:43 magicuserbaby So I think I'm in good shape now - I'll update about the bin dir after compiling is done.
17:14 ook           Hello
17:15 magicuserbaby Oh, boy! I'm in business! Thanks again for the help, all!
21:08 Extex         I'm trying to update my fork of MTG
21:08 Extex         But it says that it can't merge
21:09 Extex         I've kinda completely messed up my fork
21:10 Extex         I've deleted master and it's just a mess
21:11 Extex         Is there some way I can update it but keep my Charcoals branch?
21:11 Extex         Also I don't have git I'm using github
21:12 Extex         My Computer is pretty messed up so I'm not gonna try installing anything new
21:55 vivian        Hey guys! I have a question running a mintiest server. I've just installed the server on my vServer. Port ist open. When I try to connect via the client, I get all the time an "Connection timed out". But on the server side, I receive the following message: 2020-03-21 22:45:20: INFO[Server]: Server: New connection: "vivian" from ****
21:56 vivian        What could be the problem here?
21:59 vivian        Any idea on that?
21:59 sfan5         outgoing packets not arriving
22:00 vivian        Ah! SO I need to open the firewall for outgoing traffic on my mintiest UDP port?
22:00 Krock         yes
22:03 vivian        Ok, I opened outgoing UDP port, but still the same.
22:05 sfan5         did you open outgoing traffic *to* some port? because that would be wrong
22:07 vivian        Allow outgoing to all on ports 30008/tcp, 30008/udp & Allow incoming from all on ports 30008/tcp, 30008/udp
22:08 Extex         How do I make a HUD maintain its aspect ratio?
22:08 sfan5         "on ports" meaning what exactly?
22:09 sfan5         you need to allow outgoing traffic *from* port 30008/udp
22:11 vivian        Chain OUTPUT (policy DROP)
22:11 vivian        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere             tcp dpt:30008ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere             udp dpt:30008
22:11 vivian        Looks like that's correct.
22:12 sfan5         dpt:30008 is *to* port 30008
22:12 sfan5         what you need is iptables -A OUTPUT -m tcp -p tcp --sport 30008 -j ACCEPT
22:13 sfan5         eh, -m udp -p udp instead of tcp
22:21 vivian        Thank you sfan5! I have this rule in my iptable. Incoming as well as outgoing. But still now change here.
22:24 sfan5         how does your incoming rule and outgoing rule look now?
22:34 vivian        Chain INPUT
22:34 vivian        ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere             udp dpt:30008
22:34 vivian        Chain OUTPUT
22:34 vivian        ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere             udp spt:30008
22:35 sfan5         hm, looks correct
22:36 Krock         wrong bind_address setting? restart minetestserver?
22:40 Extex         I'm trying to split up command parameters
22:40 Extex         I have three parameters
22:42 Extex         I've tried using local one, two, three = string.gmatch(param, "%S+)
22:42 sfan5         string.split exists (in minetest)
22:42 Extex         But they all return a function value?
22:43 sfan5         ?
22:43 vivian        Okay problem found! My server had two external ip-addresses. I deactivated one of them. Now it works!
22:44 vivian        Thank you for your help guys!
22:44 Extex         Ok now it's saying it's a table.
22:44 vivian        Another problem:
22:44 Extex         Gonna try setting each param to different indexes
22:45 vivian        venet0:0
22:46 vivian        A serialization error occurred: unsupported ItemDefintition version. The Server is probaply running a different version of Minetest.
22:46 Krock         > The Server is probaply running a different version of Minetest.
22:46 Krock         that might be the problem
22:46 Krock         0.4.x clients cannot connect to 5.x servers, or vice-versa
22:47 vivian        Server: VER=0.4.17.1 Client on Mac: 5.2.0.dev-10.11.6
22:47 Krock         bingo.
22:47 vivian        Just installed all the stuff today. What do I have to change?
22:47 Krock         I'd recommend to upgrade the server to 5.1.1 or newer
22:48 Krock         either using PPAs or building from source
22:49 Krock         there are some "0.4.x & 5.x" servers around, but I can only imagine how that horrible mess of code looks like
22:50 Krock         with these final worlds. good night.
22:50 Krock         -l
22:50 vivian        Thank you!
22:58 vivian        Whats the best way to install a current minetest server on CentOS?
23:05 sfan5         hm, centos has quite outdated software in general
23:05 sfan5         I guess compile from source
23:07 sfan5         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=311160#p311160 this script should also work on centos if you replace the section that installs dependencies