Time  Nick       Message
05:41 Quiark     hi, is there some game with something to do except building or digging? my friend is not that much into building and we've already done a bunch of digging
06:08 absurb     there are tons of minetest games on the forums
06:08 Quiark     yeah so what are ya guys playing?
06:13 absurb     unrelated: is it worth ripping the PlayerSAO class a new asshole (and the cobra's nest of things which depend on it) just to make bots/NPCs? right now, existing bot/NPC mods seem to work around this lack of functionality by creating a fake player out of a LuaEntitySAO, but this lacks any inventory, often doesn't replicate how players actually work, cannot interact with items, and is ignored by mods.
06:13 absurb     so ideally, creating a PlayerSAO (and some derivative of Player, eg "FakePlayer" or something) would be the most direct solution, because it would result in an entity which must adhere to exactly the same game rules as human players
06:20 absurb     the problem is PlayerSAOs are written to work with RemotePlayers and not just any Player-based class, and a large amount of the engine expects this
07:55 erlehmann  Quiark, did you try mineclone2?
07:56 erlehmann  Quiark, or any of the farming mods
07:56 Quiark     mc2 yes, that's one of the games which we pretty much finished
07:56 Quiark     (hades_revisited was nice too)
07:57 erlehmann  if you finished mc2, you are much more advanced than i am
08:25 ANAND      MC2 can be "finished"?
08:26 ANAND      I thought it was still WIP
13:27 Ingar      zijn er telefoonstoringen ?
13:27 Ingar      ops, wrong chan.
16:20 Wuzzy      Who wants to BuildBattle?!
18:01 Calinou    galaxie: what's remaining in the flat world?
18:01 Calinou    (I think you need to add the `flat` flag)
20:15 Wuzzy      Tomorrow Minetest will turn 8!
20:26 Krock      Please open an issue for that
20:26 Krock      seems to be a bug in the code rather than a feature
20:26 Krock      Minetest ages too fast
20:36 rubenwardy Wuzzy: I'm pretty sure he first previewed it in October 2010¿
20:36 rubenwardy Or is Jan 2011 the first release
20:40 Krock      minetest-0.0.1-win32-110214104633.zip       2011-02-14 10:45  1.7M
20:40 Krock      further than the win32 archives go
20:40 rubenwardy That may not be the first release though, notice the date in the name
20:42 Krock      but it's the oldest win32 release that still exists in his build collection
20:42 Krock      ofc, Minetest was already playable prior that point
20:44 Krock      inventory slots on the left side and chat on the bottom
21:23 Wuzzy      0.0.1 came out in January apparently https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19208
21:29 rubenwardy What do you could as birthday though? It's definitely the anniversary of the first release
21:30 rubenwardy But this topic was in Nov 2010: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40468
21:31 rubenwardy *count
22:39 galaxie    Calinou: I added the flat flag and still I'm getting trees and plants and snow and stuff.
22:40 Calinou    rubenwardy: first release was on 2010-10-10
22:40 Calinou    as I say, "same day as Ubuntu 10.10 or the airing of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's first episode"
22:40 rubenwardy Yeah October
22:40 rubenwardy Where?
22:40 Calinou    :^)