Time  Nick         Message
01:03 Elon_Sat0shi my internet is fine and in fact should be fast right now cuz i have data but mineclone 2 has repeatedly failed to download in the contentdb browser
01:03 Elon_Sat0shi it even fails with a response code of 200 lmao
01:03 Elon_Sat0shi like wat
01:08 erlehmann    Elon_Sat0shi, use ltrace on it
01:08 erlehmann    i could get it to work by slowing down the binary with ltrace
01:09 erlehmann    Elon_Sat0shi, ltrace, tracing all libcurl calls
01:09 erlehmann    if it still fails, you get useful debug information
01:09 Elon_Sat0shi that's what ltrace does?
01:09 Elon_Sat0shi I've been looking for a way to monitor packets from a specific process
01:27 scr267       So I have the same error with tag 5.0.1
01:28 scr267       I'm going to try to do some surgery by moving stuff between dev and prod... with backups first. :)
03:29 swift110     sup folks
07:56 mittak       what do i do when a new game puts me somewhere without trees? i'm walking, and walking, and walking... no trees.
08:29 erlehmann    mittak, what map generator and mods do you use?
08:46 mittak       erlehmann: the default minetest game, v7... but i kept walking and walking and walking and i found trees! so i guess this was just a bit of map variety.
08:47 erlehmann    mittak, which map seed? you can see it using f5
08:49 mittak       17815605268935158660
08:50 mittak       the direct path to the trees was not unreasonably long. i just went into unfortunate directions first.
13:05 fruitsnack   hello, can somebody help me with compiling minetest for android? I'm trying to update it for fdroid, however it fails when compiling libminetest, with undefineds. I'm mainly looking at which commits of minetest and minetest_game repos and what NDK version were used to compile it (I'm using 5.1.0 tag for both repos and NDK16 and NDK17)
13:06 fruitsnack   Since some version was already compiled using a commit that wasn't actually a release tag before
17:33 Hyolobrika   I installed Minetest via pacman (Manjaro) and I can't find the game data, Lua scripts and documentation.
17:34 Hyolobrika   `pacman -Fl minetest` doesn't list it, and it's not in `~/.minetest`
17:34 rubenwardy   try  /usr/share/Minetest
17:34 rubenwardy   probably in lowercase
17:35 Hyolobrika   If it's there, surely it would show up in `pacman -Fl`
17:35 Hyolobrika   (list files installed by package)
17:36 rubenwardy   according to the source PKGBUILD, it'll be in /usr/local/minetest
17:36 Hyolobrika   wierd, it's there
17:36 rubenwardy   https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/minetest
17:39 Hyolobrika   I found it in package minetest-common, thanks
17:43 fruitsnack   Hello, I just updated minetest to 5.1.0
17:44 fruitsnack   Were there planned changes to the audio system? All my sounds are out of place stereowise now
17:45 fruitsnack   Some are very silent, others are too loud
17:45 fruitsnack   and now most of sounds are occuring on eother of stereo channels
17:45 fruitsnack   My minetest is from official arch linux repos
17:46 swift110     sup folks
17:47 rubenwardy   huh
17:49 swift110     sup rubenwardy
17:49 rubenwardy   hey
17:49 swift110     have you written any more books?
17:49 swift110     hey Krock long time no see
17:49 Krock        greetings
17:50 rubenwardy   can't find an issue for that fruitsnack, so I suggest opening one
17:50 rubenwardy   fruitsnack: although, please be aware: if you're doing modding yourself, then sounds must be mono in order to be played at a position
17:51 fruitsnack   yes, I know, all my sounds are mono
17:52 fruitsnack   However now their gain is completely different
17:52 fruitsnack   some sounds can't be heard at all, others are extremely loud (and occuring on just one of channels)
17:55 fruitsnack   All of my sounds are normalized, and most of them are being played attached to the player
17:55 fruitsnack   {object=playerref, gain=1, max_hear_distance=xx}
17:56 fruitsnack   however even if standing still it's still being played on just one channel
17:57 sfan5        fruitsnack: did you update from 5.0?
17:57 fruitsnack   hm, actually it seems to be played on player's previous coordinate
17:57 fruitsnack   yes, I just updated to 5.1.0
18:00 fruitsnack   hm, the sounds attached to an objectref (particularly player in my case) are always being played to the first coordinate where it spawned
18:00 fruitsnack   so I joined the server, tried to play a sound and now it always plays in the same location
18:03 fruitsnack   ... Or not, I can't really determine it, the position of the sound changes
18:04 fruitsnack   That also includes the new boom sound, I can either hear sound from tnt:boom() at full volume or not hear it at all
18:05 rubenwardy   sounds (ha) like #9048
18:05 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9048 -- minetest.sound_play() broken if 'object' is used
18:06 fruitsnack   yes, right after the 5.1.0 release
18:06 fruitsnack   The description also matches
18:10 swift110     I wish there was a mod in minetest that was like sim ant
18:10 swift110     that would be awesome
18:12 sfan5        fruitsnack: if you want that issue fixed really fast, please bisect the issue
18:13 fruitsnack   Only if I knew how
18:13 fruitsnack   I haven't touched the engine
18:14 sfan5        write a small mod to reproduce the issue, download the engine source code & compile, read a tutorial on how to do bisection in git
18:14 swift110     Maybe I will learn lua and do it myself
18:14 sfan5        just the first step would also be very helpful
18:26 Krock        fruitsnack: do you have a testing mod?
18:26 ANAND        I notice this issue with the guns from the `shooter` mod
18:27 ANAND        Don't know the exact commit that caused the regression, but it roughly matches with 5.1.0
18:27 ANAND        i.e. between 5.0.0 (5.0.1?) and 5.1.0
18:34 fruitsnack   Krock: I'll be using my own mod, I'm already doing it
18:34 fruitsnack   I mean the one I originally noticed the bug in
18:36 Krock        clientpackethandler.cpp L814. Outputting the value of "cao" and "pos" there would be interesting
18:37 Krock        if there is some output, there's an issue with the position getter or positional sound
18:37 Krock        if there's no output it means the sound type is invalid or the packet was ignored
18:50 swift110     goodness
19:05 fruitsnack   Ok, I bisected it, the bug was introduced in this commit https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/81c2370c8b1a66a279a5ff450c78caf5dfef77bf
19:07 Krock        are you sure?
19:07 fruitsnack   yes, I just `git bisect`ed to this exact commit
19:07 fruitsnack   tested every time
19:07 Krock        also: does #9150 fix it?
19:07 ShadowBot    https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/9150 -- Attachments: Fix interpolation from (0,0,0) after detach by SmallJoker
19:10 Krock        actually this is weird. it means that it's only broken when there are attachments
19:10 Krock        the PR does not change anything else
19:11 swift110     oh
19:12 fruitsnack   No, 9150 doesn't fix it
19:15 fruitsnack   the log (with verbose level) doesn't contain anything unusual either
19:15 fruitsnack   no errors, OpenALSoundManager creates and deletes positional sounds
19:16 Krock        question is rather - where's it played?
19:17 Krock        It's created in clientpackethandler.cpp and can be debugged there
19:17 fruitsnack   It seems to play at the player's original location after joining the server
19:18 fruitsnack   even after the player moves
19:18 Krock        std::cout << "play sound cao=" << (u64)cao << ", pos=" << PP(pos) << std::endl;
19:18 Krock        oh. you're playing it back on your own player rather than on another object?
19:19 fruitsnack   yes, it's attached to the player
19:19 Krock        >  it means that it's only broken when there are attachments
19:19 Krock        well thanks for replying on that one /s
19:19 fruitsnack   do you still need a build with this debug line
19:20 Krock        do you mean object attachments or the sound which is "attached"?
19:20 Krock        sorry, this confuses me
19:20 Krock        either that or your testing mod :3
19:21 Krock        tbh I'm just too lazy to write one
19:21 fruitsnack   Well, I'm just using the one in my repo https://github.com/ClockGen/bweapons_modpack
19:21 fruitsnack   the line is: minetest.sound_play(def.reload_sound, {object=user, gain=reload_sound_gain, max_hear_distance=2*64})
19:21 fruitsnack   so it's attached to the user
19:21 fruitsnack   aka player
19:22 Krock        oh
19:23 fruitsnack   However doesn't seem to move together with the player after the spawn
19:25 fruitsnack   The position is still the spawn position of the player, even if the sound played at another position for the first time (I'm joining the server, going somewhere, and then trying to play it)
19:26 Krock        yeah.. there's some value that doesn't update properly
19:29 Krock        uuh
19:31 Krock        fruitsnack: workaround: press F7 to get correct positions
19:32 fruitsnack   hahah
19:32 fruitsnack   It works indeed
19:32 Krock        :P
19:32 Krock        will push a fix soon
19:32 Krock        I have a suspection of what caused it
19:32 fruitsnack   Is it also possible to tag a new version?
19:33 fruitsnack   Or it'll be done once enough of bugs are fixed
19:33 Krock        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/81c2370c8b#diff-ad60d65b34e16a3319296bb5d683acd6R714-R715
19:33 Krock        the player really relied on server-sent positions there
19:33 Krock        like wtf. there's LocalPlayer that ought to update the positions
19:54 MinetestBot  02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix LocalPlayer-bound sound playback broken by 81c2370 13f6de86c https://git.io/JeyvO (152019-12-05T19:52:30Z)
19:54 sfan5        oh nice
20:04 Krock        til the server now sends less redundant player movement packets
20:05 Krock        unintentional win-win situation with broken sounds being a side-effect
20:58 ronsor       wondering how hard it would be to build Minetest for jailbroken iOS
22:55 AlexYst      For a project I'm working on, I compiled and booted up a copy of Minetest 0.4.0.
22:56 AlexYst      Wow. That version is barren.
22:56 AlexYst      According to what I'm seeing from minetestmapper, the world I'm using is upwards of 80% bare desert stone.
22:57 AlexYst      I tried other seeds. I didn't map them, but from what I see on the ground, the results are similar.
22:57 ronsor       wow
22:57 ronsor       also hi Yst
22:58 AlexYst      There are sparsely-placed apple groves and patches of desert sand, sometimes complete wit cacti and dry shrubs. There is no ocean.
22:58 AlexYst      Hey ronsor!
22:58 ronsor       haven't seen you in ellenorland recently
22:58 AlexYst      After hours of exploring, I managed to find only two small oases. One had a single papyrus stalk.
22:59 AlexYst      ronsor: Yeah, I got fed up with Ellenor ragging on me, so I left.
22:59 ronsor       that's not a surprise
23:00 AlexYst      Like, I get that this game is old, but the 0.3.1 game was mostly green. I wasn't expecting 0.4.0 to be so empty.
23:00 AlexYst      ronsor: Yeah. I didn't exactly feel wanted there.