Time Nick Message 12:27 jas_ #7924 12:27 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7924 -- Bind mouse buttons (Adopted from #6537) by ClobberXD 17:11 MinetestBot 02[git] 04yquemener -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add support for MT 5 game translation (rebasing ) (#2466) 13bb9279c https://git.io/JemkR (152019-09-10T17:09:51Z) 17:13 sfan5 the (rebasing ) shouldn't be in there 17:13 sfan5 guess that happens when you get carried away while merging stuff 17:55 scr267 Interesting bug: 17:55 scr267 terumet and basic_materials on the same server seem to cause a segfault during some mapgen 17:56 scr267 i don't think I have the latest basic_materials so I will try again with that in a bit... just double checking. 18:05 scr267 Looks like the latest basic_materials seem to improve the situation. 18:23 fluxflux scr267: interesting. we've used those mods together for a long time and have never seen an issue like that. you have a stack trace anywhere? 18:30 scr267 fluxflux, good to know... nope, I don't have a stack trace, at least not yet. 18:56 scr267 fluxflux, a gdb session didn't give me much... 18:56 scr267 Continuing. 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d10aa6700 (LWP 5249) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d112a7700 (LWP 5248) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d11aa8700 (LWP 5247) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d122d1700 (LWP 5241) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d12b9c700 (LWP 5236) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Thread 0x7f7d1339d700 (LWP 5235) exited] 18:56 scr267 [Inferior 1 (process 5233) exited with code 01] 18:56 scr267 (sorry for spamming)( 18:57 fluxflux @fluxflux mmm i was thinking more like the tail of minetest's debug.txt file 18:57 scr267 ah it has nothing :( 18:57 scr267 I should change the debug level adn try again 18:58 fluxflux mmmm if there's a stack trace, it'll show up w/ the default settings 18:58 sfan5 minetest "crashed" in a way that made it exit cleanly? 18:58 fluxflux if it's really crashing hard, that's something else... 18:58 Krock that's not a crash. sane error code 0 exit 18:59 Krock err 18:59 Krock that's two digits (I can't read btw) 18:59 Krock scr267: bt 18:59 Krock also bt with a debug build 19:00 scr267 Krock, ok ill check. 19:00 scr267 segfault 19:00 scr267 Sep 10 15:00:06 aurelium-dev systemd[1]: minetest.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=11/SEGV 19:00 scr267 Sep 10 15:00:06 aurelium-dev systemd[1]: minetest.service: Failed with result 'signal'. 19:00 scr267 Sep 10 15:00:06 aurelium-dev systemd[1]: minetest.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart. 19:00 scr267 Sep 10 15:00:06 aurelium-dev systemd[1]: minetest.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. 19:00 scr267 let me try bt 19:00 Krock there's pastebin btw 19:01 Krock perfectly suited for long dumps 19:02 scr267 sorry yes you are right. 19:02 scr267 i could have just pasted that one line anyway 19:05 sfan5 if it did indeed segfault previously, then it didn't do so in your gdb session 19:05 sfan5 the output would be different 19:06 fluxflux scr267: also, what build are you running? and that there were 6 threads makes me think you have num_emerge_threads > 1; what happens if you set it to 1? (our server w/ terumet, basic_mats also has 4 emerge threads, so that's not necessarily the issue, but...) 19:08 scr267 Back in a minute, I'm installing the rpms for the debug sources 19:08 scr267 in order to run a proper gdb session 19:08 scr267 fluxflux, its a custom build 19:08 scr267 yes num_emerge_threads is a bit higher 19:09 scr267 now that I think about it, I wonder if it matches the max numbers of cpu on the VM. 19:09 scr267 hum maybe it doesnt 19:09 scr267 wonder if that would be an issue 19:09 fluxflux scr267 what commit is your build based on? 19:09 scr267 num_emerge_threads = 3 19:09 scr267 stable_5 19:10 fluxflux so should be more or less 5.0.1, right? 19:10 scr267 yes 19:11 scr267 gah, gdb gives me a list of packages to install and dnf tells me they are already installed... 19:11 scr267 grrrr 19:12 scr267 im going to set num_emerge_threads to 1 and try this again. 19:13 fluxflux https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/76325d0ba925cfdd18e387ae96d27921136e98e5/minetest.conf.example#L2996 19:16 scr267 LOL, ok... i'll keep that in mind... I'm trying to reproduce ... I got another crash but Im not sure if its the same now. 19:29 scr267 https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/TFtC5PuiKejb8t9e9OzYEA 19:30 scr267 Now I'm getting a completely different error regarding some dungeon_loot generation. 19:30 sfan5 fixed in 5.0.1 19:31 scr267 Both my minetest and minetest_game folders are up-to-date with stable-5 19:31 scr267 Odd! 19:32 Krock update mtg 19:32 Krock apparently not so up to date 19:33 fluxflux yeah, that's my theory on that too 19:33 Krock stable-5 yes but maybe not 5.0.1 19:33 fluxflux terumet does register a bunch of things w/ dungeon_loot, it's entirely possible that one of them is mis-named 19:34 scr267 so I should update mtg again? 19:34 scr267 should I switch to another branch? 19:35 sfan5 what's the last commit in your mtg checkout? 19:35 fluxflux scr267: what's the commit (hash string thing) of mtg you're using now? 19:35 scr267 commit d6a66860af6fc39957d8e947824b9c56c3686b8e (grafted, HEAD -> stable-5, tag: 0.4.17.2, tag: 0.4.17.1, tag: 0.4.17, origin/stable-5) 19:35 scr267 Author: sofar 19:35 scr267 Date: Sun Apr 8 09:57:00 2018 -0700 19:35 scr267 that seems a bit old 19:35 scr267 !?! 19:36 sofar stable-5 19:36 sofar you're not on master 19:36 sfan5 it appears you have created a stable-5 branch yourself that contains the last 0.4.17 commit 19:36 sfan5 or something like that 19:36 sofar doesn't mean it's the latest commit either 19:36 sofar commit dates can be in random order 19:37 scr267 ok ill remove that folder and try it again 19:38 scr267 there, all fixed up... ill try that again 19:49 scr267 got a completely different error now something about a terumet trying to access a global value from 3darmor 19:49 scr267 huh 19:49 scr267 oh well 20:01 fluxflux scr267 maybe update 3d_armor? 20:03 scr267 Yes, that's no longer related to the previous issue... I agree... I have a ton of mods to update anyway, so I'm guessing im going to run into a few more errors... 20:03 scr267 I'll stop pestering you guys... thanks for all the help btw 20:07 Krock !next 20:07 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 20:48 aldenp hey, is there anything to be done about lag? 20:49 aldenp I've been having pretty terrible latency; my internet connection isn't great but it isn't 4-second-delay bad 20:49 aldenp I know there's no foolproof way of fixing this than "get better internet", but are there any config options I can use that might even slightly optimize things? 20:54 scr267 is it server side lag or client side lag? 20:54 scr267 What is your 'lag' like when you type /status ? 20:55 aldenp max lag is 1.06; I'm playing on pandorabox, which is laggy for sure but according to other players online right now not nearly as laggy as what I'm experiencing 20:55 aldenp I have lag issues on other servers as well so it's definitely client side 20:56 scr267 Mainly that would be connection related. 20:56 scr267 You could maybe try to increase the cache? 20:56 scr267 but I'm not sure how much effect that would have anyway. 20:57 scr267 If you ping the pandorabox server IP, what type of latency do you get? 20:57 aldenp first few packets have a latency of almost 3 seconds, but subsequent packets only around 200ms 20:57 scr267 I get around 130 ms 20:57 scr267 3 seconds? 20:57 scr267 ouf, are you on linux? 20:58 aldenp only for ~1-2 packets when starting the ping, after that it's sensible latency lol 20:58 aldenp yes running Gentoo 20:58 scr267 install mtr 20:58 scr267 and then simply run $ mtr pandorabox.io 20:58 aldenp ah ok I've been looking for a tool like this 20:58 scr267 It will do a continuous ping and show you the averages, standard deviations and etc.. 20:58 aldenp neat 20:59 scr267 My guess is there is something somewhere that's causing some packets to drop or get very slow 20:59 scr267 You can leave it on for a while too without causing any issues... it'll just give you a better idea of how bad it gets 21:00 aldenp ugh it installs with a gtk interface by default, time to recompile lol 21:00 aldenp ~~I could use --curses like a sensible person but nah~~ 21:04 scr267 Oh I just use it on the cmd line 21:04 scr267 I didn't realize there was a gui for it. 21:05 scr267 Anyway, I have to go. 21:05 fluxflux aldenp: i assume you're aware of the pandorabox's grafana page? 21:05 fluxflux aldenp: and you on wifi or wired? 21:05 aldenp yes 21:05 aldenp I'm on wireless 21:06 fluxflux any ability to plug into a cable instead? makes a big difference for some players, but not always possible... 21:06 aldenp believe me I wish I could 21:06 aldenp I made the mistake of buying a laptop with no ethernet port 21:06 fluxflux it's getting harder to get them w/ one... 21:07 aldenp yeah, it sucks 21:08 aldenp I need to get a fancy USB-C dock for power+ethernet+monitor+usb, since the routine of unplugging three different cables on a daily basis to pack my laptop is getting frustrating lol 21:09 aldenp unfortunately my current laptop doesn't have a thunderbolt 3 port either, just the old USB-C :( 21:10 fluxflux and the issue is most likely actually latency, and not the FPS drops that a lot of people call "lag"? 21:10 aldenp I'm aware of this :D 21:11 aldenp btw is it normal for my ISP to be doing 6 hops before passing off my packets 21:11 fluxflux i've got a lot of settings i've tailored for the FPS issues, but not so much for bad bandwidth... will take another look though 21:11 aldenp so 6 hops in my ISP followed by another 6 hops through HE 21:11 fluxflux 6 hops in your ISP can be normal 21:11 aldenp ok 21:11 aldenp FPS isn't a problem for me fortunately 21:11 fluxflux especially if it's a large company 21:13 aldenp hm, pandorabox is overseas, I didn't realize