Time  Nick        Message
01:43 p_gimeno    is the first return value of the register_chatcommand function used for anything?
02:28 kaeza       It seems it's completely ignored in code. Haven't looked at what Lua API says.
02:29 kaeza       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua#L30
02:48 p_gimeno    thanks
07:15 OtakuKent   hello
07:16 norkle      moah ctf pls!
13:47 JDCodeIt    galaxie: there is no growth abm for default:grass_1,2,3,4,5. there is only a spread ABM in functions.lua. default:grass_1 etc. are given a random length when placed.
13:48 JDCodeIt    Because of the spread function, placing grass on a bunch of default:dirt will eventually cause that dirt to change to default:dirt_with_grass
18:04 galaxie     Is there a good mod or two I can look at that shows Lua.. emulating OOP classes?
18:05 rubenwardy  galaxie: https://github.com/CapitalismGame/capitalism_game/tree/master/mods/capitalism
18:05 rubenwardy  https://github.com/CapitalismGame/capitalism_game/blob/master/mods/capitalism/company/company.lua
18:05 rubenwardy  includes unit tests and documentation
18:05 galaxie     Fancy.
18:05 rubenwardy  https://capitalismgame.rubenwardy.com/ldoc/
18:06 rubenwardy  eg: https://capitalismgame.rubenwardy.com/ldoc/modules/company.html
18:07 MinetestBot DoyleChris: Mar-10 15:12 UTC <Fixer> infrared part was intended to be disabled by default (too cheaty), it was fixed before 5.0 release (aka off by default)
18:09 DoyleChris  I have a question for mapgen
18:09 galaxie     What's the company.Company = company line for? "Register" the class?
18:10 DoyleChris  im trying to add a diamond block below -5000 like the mese block but im getting a error
18:10 DoyleChris  this is the coding
18:10 DoyleChris  function default.register_ores() 	minetest.register_ore({ 		ore_type       = "scatter", 		ore            = "default:dimondblock", 		wherein        = "default:stone", 		clust_scarcity = 20 * 20 * 20, 		clust_num_ores = 5, 		clust_size     = 3, 		y_max          = -5000, 		y_min          = -31000, 	})
18:11 DoyleChris  https://pastebin.com/qWwtgiQz
18:12 p_gimeno    DoyleChris: dimond -> diamond
18:13 p_gimeno    galaxie: I think you want to learn how to set up OOP before you watch examples on how it's used
18:13 DoyleChris  i got it
18:14 DoyleChris  i named it diamond.lua instead of init.lua
18:14 p_gimeno    well, you still have dimondblock instead of diamondblock
18:15 DoyleChris  i changed that now im getting something elase
18:15 DoyleChris  else
18:16 galaxie     p_gimeno: I hate Lua. Can you recommend a resource for OOP? I've found a few articles online.
18:16 DoyleChris  https://pastebin.com/YaVgLLkv
18:16 DoyleChris  attempt to index global 'default' (a nil value)
18:16 p_gimeno    galaxie: https://www.lua.org/pil/16.html goes through the basics
18:17 p_gimeno    DoyleChris: remove the function
18:18 p_gimeno    just start with minetest.register_ore...
18:20 rubenwardy  galaxie: Company is a local
18:20 rubenwardy  it only appears in the file
18:21 rubenwardy  company.Company = Company   puts the class into the company global
18:21 rubenwardy  so other mods can do this:         local mycomp = company.Company:new()
18:21 rubenwardy  you should not make any globals other than a table which is the same as your mod name
18:23 galaxie     Good to know, thanks. Is the Programming in Lua online manual fairly up-to-date? It says it's different from the 5.3, which you'd have to buy.
18:24 p_gimeno    the manual is for 5.0, standard Lua used in Minetest is 5.1, there are very few differences though
18:29 p_gimeno    there are a few more metamethods in Lua 5.1, a new syntax for multi-parameter functions, and additional syntax for comment and string literal delimiters. Also there's a new # operator for length (it was a function in 5.0). I don't think you'll run into any other differences.
18:30 DoyleChris  i dont know if it worked, i enabled it went to 8000,-8000,8000 on my map, never been there so it had to generate the blocks but i dont see any.
18:31 p_gimeno    20x20x20 is a very very low chance
18:31 DoyleChris  so raising that up to 30x30x30 ill have more chance
18:31 p_gimeno    no, the opposite
18:32 p_gimeno    20x20x20 means that you get 1 ore in each 20x20x20 cube
18:32 p_gimeno    (on average)
18:33 DoyleChris  how does that work with clust_num_ores and clust_size
18:36 p_gimeno    maybe you get 1 cluster, not 1 ore, not sure, but I know that it's rare to find stuff at these scarcity levels
18:40 galaxie     Just turned my single mod into a game. It's claiming it can't find meshes and images. Where are they supposed to be located? I'm placing them in media/models and media/textures but even in media it's not finding them??
18:41 galaxie     Also, there are no nodes and I start off falling, even though mapgen is set to flat.
18:47 p_gimeno    galaxie: if your game does not have the default mod, you won't have any dirt_with_grass or anything else, and you'll need to register the elements with the mapgen yourself
18:50 galaxie     p_gimeno: Oh, how would I include it and keep it up-to-date?
18:53 p_gimeno    well, you need to copy it from minetest_game, add the credits, and manually update it... or you could fork minetest_game and add your mod to it... but I'd reconsider making your mod a game
18:54 p_gimeno    minetest_game is what makes minetest a survival game
18:54 galaxie     Hmmm, I suppose so.
18:55 p_gimeno    if you want to make a game, you need to implement all the survival features and the blocks
18:56 p_gimeno    try the Tutorial game by Wuzzy, it shows a lot of what can be done. I've always thought it's a good tutorial on the engine for modders (not nearly as good as an introduction to survival)
18:56 p_gimeno    *not nearly as good an introduction...
19:19 galaxie     What's the largest number of concurrent users a server has seen without crashing?
19:23 galaxie     Also, I assume there isn't any real horizontal scalability to MT servers?
19:27 rubenwardy  probably 80-ish
19:27 rubenwardy  and there isn't, unfortunately
19:28 rubenwardy  there's this: https://github.com/andrewvy/knot
19:31 galaxie     How WIP is it? I'd be interested in that cross-server plugin communication..
19:31 rubenwardy  very WIP
19:32 p_gimeno    looks like it was developed for about a week, then abandoned - https://github.com/andrewvy/knot/commits/master
19:32 rubenwardy  :(
19:33 rubenwardy  Minetest doesn't tend to get many users anyway
19:33 galaxie     It's a pity, isn't it? I wouldn't dare install MineCraft on my personal laptop.
19:34 rubenwardy  yeah
23:03 makayabou   If I use minetest.Settings to create a specific con file, do I need to request an insecure env ?
23:03 makayabou   *conf file
23:10 makayabou   Rubenwardy: In ctf mod, you create .conf files per map, then you save them in worldpath. How do you copy them in mods/ctf/ctf_maps/maps ?
23:10 rubenwardy  Settings(minetest.get_modpath("mymod") .. "/file.conf")
23:10 rubenwardy  local map = Settings(minetest.get_modpath("mymod") .. "/file.conf")
23:10 rubenwardy  map:get("key")
23:10 rubenwardy  no need for insecure env
23:11 makayabou   I thought that I needed insecure env each time I want to write something outside of worldpath
23:12 rubenwardy  you can write to your own mod's path
23:12 rubenwardy  s/write/read
23:12 rubenwardy  and you can write to your own mod's path if you obtain a handle on load
23:12 rubenwardy  ie: call settings on load
23:12 makayabou   ah ok... I did not understand this..
23:13 makayabou   So insecure env is only if I want to write files outside of worldpath and modpath !
23:13 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fix beds being undiggable after laying down 13e3cd961 https://git.io/fjJrJ (152019-03-23T23:12:44Z)
23:14 makayabou   Just to be sure I understood everything well, could you point me to the part of your code in ctf that write in modpath?
23:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Dungeon loot: Avoid empty 'if' branch to satisfy lua check 138b5e0a9 https://git.io/fjJrk (152019-03-23T23:16:41Z)